Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 That's great Donna!! I know will love being able to go on his own without me taking him! Congratulations and I agree about the baby steps! Have a great night, Re: SSI We used the paratransit yesterday of the first time - HUGE success! A sense of ndependence for my son as well. His volunteer work went well, which he'll be oing once a week this summer. Baby steps....I keep telling myself...baby steps....we'll get all of this igured out in some way! ---- Original Message ----- rom: sunshinebeaches3@... o: IPADDUnite ent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:07:12 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central ubject: Re: SSI Donna, I hope yours goes as smoothly, I'm really shocked to have heard so uickly since it seems some of the systems in this country are such a mess. And hile " I " think was a pretty clear cut case just based on the paperwork rom school I was still worried I'd have to appeal for some reason. ave you used paratransit yet this week?? ary H. -----Original Message----- rom: krazykato3@... o: IPADDUnite c: ipaddunite ent: Wed, Jun 16, 2010 9:03 pm ubject: Re: SSI Sorry I can't answer your questions , but I would say this is HUGE & GOOD ws for you that no appeal was needed, etc. Glad this was relatively painless r you! Donna ---- Original Message ----- om: sunshinebeaches3@... : ipaddunite nt: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:00:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central bject: SSI i everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check today or SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I uldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's ying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when e approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that ll or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my estions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. , I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? ry H. Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ahoo! Groups Links ndividual Email | Traditional ttp://docs./info/terms/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 well in truth, there are just 2 of us living here, his dad is out of the picture but during the interview unless I wanted to " lie " didn't have any income to be paying rent and when that question is asked " does pay rent? " I had to say " no " but added he will be as soon as this is approved Thanks for your help Gordon. H. Re: SSI No no no, do not yet pop the champagne... ou should be getting $674.... epeat after me, 's share of monthly living expenses is X -- Say there are hree of you, 1/3 of mortgage, 1/3 of light, 1/3 gas, etc plus FOOD, laundry, tc his might get you there with SS and make it easier on you especially as it is rue et the truth set you free irect deposit - take the check just got and open a new account with you as ither guardian or I think the term is recieptant payee, and include at our favorite bank. hen you go back to SS and change to direct deposit f you are waiting for SS to call in my experience Santa Claus, Easter Bunny or anukkah Harry will call first umbly grateful to be your companion n the journey... Gordon P. Stiefel hone: 708 246 5151 ax: 708 246 9144 " All great change in America egins at the dinner table " , Reagan. " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and he courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. om 1: 16). ather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! " ational Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of I .. rom: krazykato3@... <krazykato3@...> ubject: Re: SSI o: IPADDUnite c: ipaddunite ate: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 9:03 PM Sorry I can't answer your questions , but I would say this is HUGE & GOOD ews for you that no appeal was needed, etc. Glad this was relatively painless or you! Donna ----- Original Message ----- rom: sunshinebeaches3@... o: ipaddunite ent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:00:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central ubject: SSI Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check today or SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I ouldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's aying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when he approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that all or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my uestions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. o, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? ary H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 OOPS... ________________________________ From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On Behalf Of N Rubin Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:11 AM IPADDUnite Subject: RE: Re: SSI Rent = Income for IRS Shared Household Expenses = NOT Income for IRS [cid:image001.gif@...]_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Makes sense. It is just their share as an adult. If they lived away from the home they would have to pay their share. They should be paying 1/2- 1/3 or what ever depending how many people live in the home and this should be for all bills, right? Shirley From: N Rubin <brian@...> Subject: RE: Re: SSI " IPADDUnite " <IPADDUnite > Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 1:11 PM  Rent = Income for IRS Shared Share = NOT Income for IRS Rubin The Law Offices of Rubin & Associates (E) @...<mailto:@...> (W) www.Rubin.com<http://www.brianrubin.com/> (O) 847-279-7999 (F) 847-279-0090 (TF) 866.TO.RUBIN * Member by invitation, SNA, The Special Needs Alliance, the national non-profit association of experienced " Special Needs Planning " Attorneys, and serves on SNA's Board of Directors. (www.specialneedsalliance.org<http://www.specialneedsalliance.org/>) * Member, Special Needs Law Steering Committee of NAELA, National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys. (www.NAELA.org<http://www.naela.org/>) * Rubin has been awarded the dale Hubbell Peer Review Rating of AV Preeminent. (www.martindale.com<http://www.martindale.com/>) PLEASE NOTE: The information contained in this transmission is privileged, confidential, and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you received this transmission in error, please notify Rubin by email, delete the message, and destroy and/or deleté the original message and all copies. This message is not intended or written to be used, and may not be used, for the purpose of avoiding any penalties which may be imposed by the I.R.S. ________________________________ From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On Behalf Of cmfinato Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:05 AM IPADDUnite Subject: Re: SSI , you can sign up for direct deposit on their ssa.gov website. For the 'rent', I typed up a little note that stated Angel would pay rent and the amount and that was accepted. > > > Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check today for SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I couldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's paying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when the approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that call or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my questions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. > So, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? > H. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 so what you are saying is I should call it shared share? I actually pay " rent " I do not own the place we live in, does that change things? RE: Re: SSI Rent = Income for IRS hared Share = NOT Income for IRS Rubin he Law Offices of rian Rubin & Associates (E) @...<mailto:@...> W) www.Rubin.com<http://www.brianrubin.com/> O) 847-279-7999 F) 847-279-0090 TF) 866.TO.RUBIN * Member by invitation, SNA, The Special Needs Alliance, the national on-profit association of experienced " Special Needs Planning " Attorneys, and erves on SNA's Board of Directors. (www.specialneedsalliance.org<http://www.specialneedsalliance.org/>) * Member, Special Needs Law Steering Committee of NAELA, National Academy of lder Law Attorneys. (www.NAELA.org<http://www.naela.org/>) * Rubin has been awarded the dale Hubbell Peer Review Rating of V Preeminent. (www.martindale.com<http://www.martindale.com/>) PLEASE NOTE: The information contained in this transmission is privileged, onfidential, and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named bove. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any isclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on he contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you received this ransmission in error, please notify Rubin by email, delete the message, nd destroy and/or deleté the original message and all copies. This message is ot intended or written to be used, and may not be used, for the purpose of voiding any penalties which may be imposed by the I.R.S. _______________________________ rom: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On Behalf f cmfinato ent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:05 AM o: IPADDUnite ubject: Re: SSI , you can sign up for direct deposit on their ssa.gov website. For the rent', I typed up a little note that stated Angel would pay rent and the amount nd that was accepted. Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check oday for SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I ouldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's aying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when he approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that all or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my uestions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. So, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 well if were required to pay 1/2 he'd need a lot more than $674.00(this is not even what 1/2 of my monthly rent is) in our case which means I am helping to support him which means he's not entitled to the full amount anyway as I understand it.....even though " I " think he should get all of it. H. RE: Re: SSI Makes sense. It is just their share as an adult. If they lived away from the ome they would have to pay their share. They should be paying 1/2- 1/3 or what ver depending how many people live in the home and this should be for all ills, right? hirley rom: N Rubin <brian@...> ubject: RE: Re: SSI o: " IPADDUnite " <IPADDUnite > ate: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 1:11 PM Rent = Income for IRS hared Share = NOT Income for IRS Rubin he Law Offices of rian Rubin & Associates (E) @...<mailto:@...> W) www.Rubin.com<http://www.brianrubin.com/> O) 847-279-7999 F) 847-279-0090 TF) 866.TO.RUBIN * Member by invitation, SNA, The Special Needs Alliance, the national non-profit ssociation of experienced " Special Needs Planning " Attorneys, and serves on NA's Board of Directors. (www.specialneedsalliance.org<http://www.specialneedsalliance.org/>) Member, Special Needs Law Steering Committee of NAELA, National Academy of lder Law Attorneys. (www.NAELA.org<http://www.naela.org/>) Rubin has been awarded the dale Hubbell Peer Review Rating of AV reeminent. (www.martindale.com<http://www.martindale.com/>) PLEASE NOTE: The information contained in this transmission is privileged, onfidential, and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named bove. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any isclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on he contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you received this ransmission in error, please notify Rubin by email, delete the message, nd destroy and/or deleté the original message and all copies. This message is ot intended or written to be used, and may not be used, for the purpose of voiding any penalties which may be imposed by the I.R.S. _______________________________ rom: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On Behalf f cmfinato ent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:05 AM o: IPADDUnite ubject: Re: SSI , you can sign up for direct deposit on their ssa.gov website. For the rent', I typed up a little note that stated Angel would pay rent and the amount nd that was accepted. Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check oday for SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I ouldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's aying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when he approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that all or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my uestions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. So, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Donna, Congratulations! Transportation is SUCH a big barrier for so many in being able to access their communities, I'm so glad for that it allowed him to get back and forth to his volunteer work!! You're right, baby steps, one foot in front of the other, just keep moving. Yesterday was a good day. Hoorah! Laurie From: krazykato3@... Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:14 PM IPADDUnite Subject: Re: SSI We used the paratransit yesterday of the first time - HUGE success! A sense of independence for my son as well. His volunteer work went well, which he'll be doing once a week this summer. Baby steps....I keep telling myself...baby steps....we'll get all of this figured out in some way! Re: SSI Sorry I can't answer your questions , but I would say this is HUGE & GOOD ews for you that no appeal was needed, etc. Glad this was relatively painless or you! Donna ---- Original Message ----- rom: sunshinebeaches3@... o: ipaddunite ent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:00:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central ubject: SSI Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check today or SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I ouldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's aying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when he approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that all or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my uestions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. o, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? ary H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Hi Laurie, I'm 's mom ( H.), Donna has !! LOL I know, it's easy to get people mixed up :-) H. Re: SSI Donna, ongratulations! Transportation is SUCH a big barrier for so many in being able o access their communities, I'm so glad for that it allowed him to get ack and forth to his volunteer work!! You're right, baby steps, one foot in ront of the other, just keep moving. Yesterday was a good day. Hoorah! aurie rom: krazykato3@... ent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:14 PM o: IPADDUnite ubject: Re: SSI e used the paratransit yesterday of the first time - HUGE success! A sense of ndependence for my son as well. His volunteer work went well, which he'll be oing once a week this summer. Baby steps....I keep telling myself...baby steps....we'll get all of this igured out in some way! ----- Original Message ----- rom: sunshinebeaches3@... o: IPADDUnite ent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:07:12 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central ubject: Re: SSI Donna, I hope yours goes as smoothly, I'm really shocked to have heard so uickly since it seems some of the systems in this country are such a mess. And hile " I " think was a pretty clear cut case just based on the paperwork rom school I was still worried I'd have to appeal for some reason. ave you used paratransit yet this week?? ary H. -----Original Message----- rom: krazykato3@... o: IPADDUnite c: ipaddunite ent: Wed, Jun 16, 2010 9:03 pm ubject: Re: SSI Sorry I can't answer your questions , but I would say this is HUGE & GOOD ws for you that no appeal was needed, etc. Glad this was relatively painless r you! Donna ---- Original Message ----- om: sunshinebeaches3@... : ipaddunite nt: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:00:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central bject: SSI Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check today or SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I uldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's ying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when e approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that ll or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my estions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. , I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? ry H. Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ahoo! Groups Links ndividual Email | Traditional ttp://docs./info/terms/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Thanks for this, makes sense to me, time to start calculating :-) Have a good day! H. Re: Re: SSI When I calculated my sons share of expenses I used a sliding scal e method so I alculated my income and his and what percentage his income was of the total and ultiplied the expenses for rent, utilities and food by that amount. In other ords my sons income was 16% of the total. I had $2200 for rent , utilities and ood so his share was $352.00. I could support this amount and felt this was a air share. I still provided more that 50% of his care however he was able to feel good bout making a contribution to the household. ----- Original Message ----- rom: sunshinebeaches3@... o: IPADDUnite ent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:35:18 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central ubject: Re: Re: SSI well if were required to pay 1/2 he'd need a lot more than $674.00(this is ot even what 1/2 of my monthly rent is) in our case which means I am helping to upport him which means he's not entitled to the full amount anyway as I nderstand it.....even though " I " think he should get all of it. ary H. -----Original Message----- rom: Shirley Linden < slpanda2@... > o: IPADDUnite ent: Thu, Jun 17, 2010 8:17 am ubject: RE: Re: SSI Makes sense. It is just their share as an adult. If they lived away from the me they would have to pay their share. They should be paying 1/2- 1/3 or what er depending how many people live in the home and this should be for all lls, right? irley -- On Thu, 6/17/10, N Rubin < brian@... > wrote: rom: N Rubin < brian@... > bject: RE: Re: SSI : " IPADDUnite " < IPADDUnite > te: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 1:11 PM Rent = Income for IRS ared Share = NOT Income for IRS rian Rubin e Law Offices of ian Rubin & Associates E) @... <mailto: @... > ) www.Rubin.com< http://www.brianrubin.com/ > ) 847-279-7999 ) 847-279-0090 F) 866.TO.RUBIN Member by invitation, SNA, The Special Needs Alliance, the national non-profit ssociation of experienced " Special Needs Planning " Attorneys, and serves on A's Board of Directors. (www.specialneedsalliance.org< http://www.specialneedsalliance.org/ ) ember, Special Needs Law Steering Committee of NAELA, National Academy of der Law Attorneys. (www.NAELA.org< http://www.naela.org/ >) rian Rubin has been awarded the dale Hubbell Peer Review Rating of AV eeminent. (www.martindale.com< http://www.martindale.com/ >) LEASE NOTE: The information contained in this transmission is privileged, nfidential, and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named ove. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any sclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on e contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you received this ansmission in error, please notify Rubin by email, delete the message, d destroy and/or deleté the original message and all copies. This message is t intended or written to be used, and may not be used, for the purpose of oiding any penalties which may be imposed by the I.R.S. ______________________________ om: IPADDUnite [mailto: IPADDUnite ] On Behalf cmfinato nt: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:05 AM : IPADDUnite bject: Re: SSI ary, you can sign up for direct deposit on their ssa.gov website. For the ent', I typed up a little note that stated Angel would pay rent and the amount d that was accepted. -- In IPADDUnite <mailto:IPADDUnite%40>, nshinebeaches3@... wrote: Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check day for SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I uldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's ying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when e approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that ll or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my estions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. o, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? ary H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 You may not want to put 1/3 of expenses - if the amount is too much - they will tell you he would never be able to pay his 1/3 and cut you back. The safest way is to say he pays rent - I think it is $300/month now - someone correct this is I am wrong. SSI Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check today for SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I couldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's paying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when the approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that call or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my questions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. So, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Thanks for all the sharing  I never have been able to get any understanding of how SSI works other than it really depends on the diagnosis (aka there does exist a fast track list of about 40) and the office and the person you get who takes care of you at intake.  Humbly grateful to be your companion on the journey... Gordon P. Stiefel Phone: 708 246 5151 Fax: 708 246 9144 " All great change in America begins at the dinner table " , Reagan. " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16). Rather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! " National Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of II .. rom: N Rubin <brian@...> ubject: RE: Re: SSI o: " IPADDUnite " <IPADDUnite > ate: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 1:11 PM Rent = Income for IRS hared Share = NOT Income for IRS Rubin he Law Offices of rian Rubin & Associates (E) @...<mailto:@...> W) www.Rubin.com<http://www.brianrubin.com/> O) 847-279-7999 F) 847-279-0090 TF) 866.TO.RUBIN * Member by invitation, SNA, The Special Needs Alliance, the national non-profit ssociation of experienced " Special Needs Planning " Attorneys, and serves on NA's Board of Directors. (www.specialneedsalliance.org<http://www.specialneedsalliance.org/>) Member, Special Needs Law Steering Committee of NAELA, National Academy of lder Law Attorneys. (www.NAELA.org<http://www.naela.org/>) Rubin has been awarded the dale Hubbell Peer Review Rating of AV reeminent. (www.martindale.com<http://www.martindale.com/>) PLEASE NOTE: The information contained in this transmission is privileged, onfidential, and intended only for the use of the individual or entity named bove. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any isclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on he contents of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you received this ransmission in error, please notify Rubin by email, delete the message, nd destroy and/or deleté the original message and all copies. This message is ot intended or written to be used, and may not be used, for the purpose of voiding any penalties which may be imposed by the I.R.S. _______________________________ rom: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On Behalf f cmfinato ent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:05 AM o: IPADDUnite ubject: Re: SSI , you can sign up for direct deposit on their ssa.gov website. For the rent', I typed up a little note that stated Angel would pay rent and the amount nd that was accepted. Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check oday for SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I ouldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's aying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when he approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that all or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my uestions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. So, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 And I'm not quite sure how to " prove " 's expenses warrant him to receive the $674 that's the part I'm having a hard time figuring out. H. Re: Re: SSI If his expenses are more than his income (SSI + any earnings), then he is etting " help " . Help is valued at 1/3. If expenses are more then income, you ose 1/3 so the SSI payment will be $449.34 instead of $674. Go figure..... I would think that you would need more income, not less........ _______________________________ rom: GORDON STIEFEL <taggroup@...> o: IPADDUnite ent: Thu, June 17, 2010 11:44:58 AM ubject: Re: Re: SSI elp me, why is he not entitled to at least $674 if his expenses are even more?? umbly grateful to be your companion n the journey... Gordon P. Stiefel hone: 708 246 5151 ax: 708 246 9144 " All great change in America egins at the dinner table " , Reagan. " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and he courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. om 1: 16). ather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! " ational Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of I .. Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check day for SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I uldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's ying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when e approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that ll or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my estions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. o, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? ary H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 , prior to applying for SSI, I listed what Angel's expenses were for: SEASPAR (special recreation) We Grow Dreams (work training) Transportation to programs and medical Out of pocket medical Pull up supplies clothing recreation, etc. I had everything all ready and documented and the intake coordinator didn't even ask for them! > Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check > day for SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I > uldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's > ying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when > e approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that > ll or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my > estions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. > o, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? > ary H. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I will make another appointment to go in there and document things better, the question I answered wrong was " does he pay rent? " I should have lied and said " yes! " LOL That's what it's about otherwise there is no question he should get the full amount. As I said, when your kid is 18 and gets a check for $20 every two weeks from his work training it's hard to say " yes, he pays rent! " Quite honestly it's all a bunch of bureaucratic BS. H. Re: SSI , prior to applying for SSI, I listed what Angel's expenses were for: SEASPAR (special recreation) e Grow Dreams (work training) ransportation to programs and medical ut of pocket medical ull up supplies lothing ecreation, etc. I had everything all ready and documented and the intake coordinator didn't even sk for them! Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check day for SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I uldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's ying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when e approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that > ll or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my > estions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. o, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? ary H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 No no no I never suggest or advise lying ALWAYS Be 100% truthful - its the feds! But you have to speak SSI He owes you for past due living expenses or rent! Humbly grateful to be your companion on the journey... Gordon P. Stiefel Phone: 708 246 5151 Fax: 708 246 9144 " All great change in America begins at the dinner table " , Reagan. " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16). Rather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! " National Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of II .. rom: krazykato3@... <krazykato3@...> ubject: Re: SSI o: IPADDUnite c: ipaddunite ate: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 9:03 PM Sorry I can't answer your questions , but I would say this is HUGE & GOOD ews for you that no appeal was needed, etc. Glad this was relatively painless or you! Donna ----- Original Message ----- rom: sunshinebeaches3@... o: ipaddunite ent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:00:19 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central ubject: SSI Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check today or SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I ouldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's aying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when he approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that all or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my uestions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. o, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? ary H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Hi all: I have saved several " SSI " related pieces from previous postings. Thanks to Sherri Schneider for providing this information... Though these are from last year, the information is still accurate and relevant. Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... SSI IPADDUnite@gro ups.com Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 10:06 PM I need advice on how to get the most SSI for my son...my phone interview is in 2 weeks and I need to know the right wordage. I understand there is a possibility they will say " your son is entitled to $675.00 but we are only going to give you 2/3 plus $20 for $470. " Why do they do this and is there a way to show my sons needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Does anyone else get SSI and SSDI for your child? I get both for my son as his father died in 1987 and he gets 2 checks each month, one under his SS number and one under his father's SS number. I have never been asked to open a separate account and I only have to report each year how much was used for room and board, food, clothing, etc. I am his payee. My son also works about 12 hours a week and earns under the allowable amount so he can get HBWD along with his Medicare A, B and D. We only have to contact them if he goes over the allowable amount from his job which has been 2 or 3 times in the past 6 years. They do contact us every few years and ask us to update our information. We also receive Home Based Services, which I think we were lucky enough to get as his step father is also disabled and I retired 4 years ago to be the full time care taker of my son who has Down Syndrome and help my husband as well. I think we have been REALLY lucky to have all these services with very little trouble. I hear all the trouble most of you have gone through and I feel guilty sometimes as it has been easy for us so far in getting funds but are holding our breath for the day it is cut. Shirley From: Marcia <m_smetanko@ . com> Subject: SSI IPADDUnite@gro ups.com Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 10:06 PM I need advice on how to get the most SSI for my son...my phone interview is in 2 weeks and I need to know the right wordage. I understand there is a possibility they will say " your son is entitled to $675.00 but we are only going to give you 2/3 plus $20 for $470. " Why do they do this and is there a way to show my sons needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Adam, 23 years old has Down Syndrome. He gets SSI and as of 21 he started getting SSDI on his work record. He also qualifies for Medicaid and Medicare, again on his work record. We do have a separate sacred account that has just the SSI/SSDI money. Any thing he earns from work is spent on his activities. He works only about9-10 hours a week so he is not bringing in great amounts of money. He has worked hard to earn the necessary credits for SsDi/Medicare because I knew that would afford him greater earning potential as well as better medical coverage. With claiming IRWE and keeping track of his expenses it is a lot of paperwork my husband gets to do. And yes, I thank God every day Adam has the benefits including Home Based Support. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I'm just glad we are officially in the system, I'll start logging expenses to get the full amount, at least now I can say " yes I'm charging him room and board!! " His teen camp this summer will cost more than he's getting currently each month. This is my first experience with getting any government funds or for that matter insurance funds to help pay for anything receives. Back in the day my health insurance wouldn't pay for any therapies he was receiving. It does seem funny to me to be excited about this but I am, if nothing else it's one more thing done for his future. H. Re: Fw: SSI Adam, 23 years old has Down Syndrome. He gets SSI and as of 21 he started etting SSDI on his work record. He also qualifies for Medicaid and edicare, again on his work record. We do have a separate sacred account hat has just the SSI/SSDI money. Any thing he earns from work is spent on is activities. He works only about9-10 hours a week so he is not bringing n great amounts of money. He has worked hard to earn the necessary credits or SsDi/Medicare because I knew that would afford him greater earning otential as well as better medical coverage. With claiming IRWE and keeping rack of his expenses it is a lot of paperwork my husband gets to do. nd yes, I thank God every day Adam has the benefits including Home Based upport. indi ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Cindi, what is IRWE and does he have HBWD? Shirley From: Cindi Swanson <cbswanson@...> Subject: Re: Fw: SSI IPADDUnite Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 1:50 PM  Adam, 23 years old has Down Syndrome. He gets SSI and as of 21 he started getting SSDI on his work record. He also qualifies for Medicaid and Medicare, again on his work record. We do have a separate sacred account that has just the SSI/SSDI money. Any thing he earns from work is spent on his activities. He works only about9-10 hours a week so he is not bringing in great amounts of money. He has worked hard to earn the necessary credits for SsDi/Medicare because I knew that would afford him greater earning potential as well as better medical coverage. With claiming IRWE and keeping track of his expenses it is a lot of paperwork my husband gets to do. And yes, I thank God every day Adam has the benefits including Home Based Support. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 IRWE, Impaired Related Work Expense. I find it pretty complicated, however in a very tiny nutshell it is the expenses that a person with a disability spends because of the disability that is very work related. .. Adam, really his dad and I keep track of things like ride Dupage that he uses to get to work. If Adam did not have a disability he would not need para transit. My service dog expenses are all IRWE.There is an equation SSA uses that allows those IRWE to be deducted from the amount earned at a job. Those expenses allow the person with a disability more in SSI. It means keeping close track of those expenses and sending them to SSA when you send in the work receipts . This is a very general explanation. The way I am understanding it nowthe IRWE has to be approved. Adam qualifies for free Medicaid under 1619-B because he doesn't earn enough at his job that would require him to have to pay for HBWD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 My son really doesn't have any job related expenses except we take him to and from work and I just add that into the HBS hours. They told me I did not have to send in his check stubs unless he goes over the allowable amount any any month. pays $81.00 a month for HBWD which he could not ever get to his spend down that Medicaid gave him so at least he has a Medicaid program if and when he needs it. From: Cindi Swanson <cbswanson@...> Subject: Re: Fw: SSI IPADDUnite Date: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:12 PM  IRWE, Impaired Related Work Expense. I find it pretty complicated, however in a very tiny nutshell it is the expenses that a person with a disability spends because of the disability that is very work related. .. Adam, really his dad and I keep track of things like ride Dupage that he uses to get to work. If Adam did not have a disability he would not need para transit. My service dog expenses are all IRWE.There is an equation SSA uses that allows those IRWE to be deducted from the amount earned at a job. Those expenses allow the person with a disability more in SSI. It means keeping close track of those expenses and sending them to SSA when you send in the work receipts . This is a very general explanation. The way I am understanding it nowthe IRWE has to be approved. Adam qualifies for free Medicaid under 1619-B because he doesn't earn enough at his job that would require him to have to pay for HBWD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I guess that's my next thing now, Medicaid. H. Re: Fw: SSI My son really doesn't have any job related expenses except we take him to nd from work and I just add that into the HBS hours. They told me I did not ave to send in his check stubs unless he goes over the allowable amount any any onth. pays $81.00 a month for HBWD which he could not ever get to his pend down that Medicaid gave him so at least he has a Medicaid program if and hen he needs it. rom: Cindi Swanson <cbswanson@...> ubject: Re: Fw: SSI o: IPADDUnite ate: Friday, June 18, 2010, 2:12 PM IRWE, Impaired Related Work Expense. find it pretty complicated, however in a very tiny nutshell it is the xpenses that a person with a disability spends because of the disability hat is very work related. Adam, really his dad and I keep track of things like ride Dupage that he ses to get to work. f Adam did not have a disability he would not need para transit. y service dog expenses are all IRWE.There is an equation SSA uses that llows those IRWE to be deducted from the amount earned at a job. Those xpenses allow the person with a disability more in SSI. It means keeping lose track of those expenses and sending them to SSA when you send in the ork receipts . his is a very general explanation. The way I am understanding it nowthe IRWE has to be approved. dam qualifies for free Medicaid under 1619-B because he doesn't earn enough t his job that would require him to have to pay for HBWD. Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Ellen, Thanks for resending this. And Sherri, Thanks for your generosity in sharing this info online. I have a " Sherri Says " folder on SSI because your information is so reliable. Bonnie Dohogne From: Marcia <m_smetanko@ . com> Subject: SSI IPADDUnite@gro ups.com Date: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 10:06 PM I need advice on how to get the most SSI for my son...my phone interview is in 2 weeks and I need to know the right wordage. I understand there is a possibility they will say " your son is entitled to $675.00 but we are only going to give you 2/3 plus $20 for $470. " Why do they do this and is there a way to show my sons needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 I had to take up to the SSA office about a week ago, to get a change of adress for him when he moved home. The guy we dealt with was pretty nice. He asked me how much was going to pay for rent & then reminded me that he had paid $250 when he lived at home before. I was going to keep it at $250, he said " but that was a couple years ago " ; so now will be paying $300. It was less painless than the wait at the DMV. & I had a joint acct before he turned 18. We still have that acct, but now on his checking acct. bank statement it says his name first, then my name & rep payee. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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