Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Not exactly. When Social Security makes a decision, they actually make 3 decisions: 1) do the medical records support disability? 2) what is the date of onset of the disability? 3) can the applicant handle their own funds or do they need a payee? If a person is assigned a payee, that is because a determination was made in Springfield that the applicant could not handle their own funds. That is why the payee should be the only signer on the payee bank account. If the applicant signs checks, it may be construed by Social Security that the applicant is NOW able to handle their own funds; maybe the disabling condition is getting better; this may spur a medical review. Hope this helps. -Sherri  ________________________________ From: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:43:35 AM Subject: Re: ssi  I haven't set anything up yet, if I'm his payee then I have to write the checks, correct? and if I'm not the payee then there could be a redetermination issue? I think I just answered my own question.... ..:-) I need to make sure he looks as helpless as possible which doesn't set well with me but I know it's part of the game we have to play. H. Re: ssi Are you his payee? ____________ _________ _________ _ rom: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:27:49 AM ubject: Re: ssi Yes, Sherri, you are such a god send to this list for providing this information o us. hank you! ary H. S: If I were open a checking account for 's SSI funds to be deposited into an he write checks for partial payments toward utility bills? Or say the cable nd/or internet bills? -----Original Message----- rom: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@sbcglobal . net> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:07 am ubject: Re: ssi Hi Sherri, my son gets SSDI. I just have the money direct deposited to my count. He is not even on the account. It has been this way since he turned about 10 years ago. Are the rules for SSDI different? I am the payee. I am happy to hear you can get the answers for us. Every time I call Social curity it takes forever to get an answer and I get different answers every me. I just say oh well, I will keep doing what I am doing and if they don't ke it, they will let me know. Thanks Sherri. irley -- On Tue, 3/2/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: rom: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> bject: Re: ssi : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com te: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 1:55 PM All of the information I post is from either: a technical expert at a Social Security office ocial Security's Procedure Operating Manual District Manager at a Social Security office had to resort to the top as I would always get different answers each time I oke with someone from Social Security. This was so frustrating to me that I w have relationships with people who can show me where answers actually come om so I believe these sources to be reliable.Also, from working in the renches " for over 30 years, I have seen many things and I always suggest the th of least resistance. ope this helps. ___________ _________ _________ __ om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Fri, February 26, 2010 7:10:42 PM bject: Re: ssi hat is way different info than they gave me -- On Fri, 2/26/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: rom: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> bject: Re: ssi : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com te: Friday, February 26, 2010, 7:06 PM If you are the payee, that means that Social Security has determined that your ult child cannot handle their own funds. The checking account should be tled: your name, as representative payee for your child's name. It should be ened under HIS Social Security number and YOU should be the ONLY signer. If cial Security sees that he is signing, it could spur a medical redetermination cause he is now able to handle money. ___________ _________ _________ __ rom: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Thu, February 25, 2010 2:22:28 PM ubject: Re: ssi Thanks, that's what I was thinking. ----Original Message----- rom: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 2:02 pm ubject: Re: ssi hey said to open a checking account with 's name as a primary and me as the ee. They also said it would be ok with them if it had s name first and ne as a co signature. Our credit union requires a savings account along with e checking acct. arcia -- On Thu, 2/25/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ote: rom: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> bject: Re: ssi : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com te: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM have another quick question. o most of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited o? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm suming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking count when he starts transition in the fall. hanks, ary H. ----Original Message----- rom: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 10:14 am ubject: Re: ssi i , ust to let you know that was approved finally. When it comes to your turn this just know one thing....patience. ..of course we have learned that ready. I filed and refiled and then more papers,,,then a paper to call ain,,,but that was the good news....approved. I realized that the girl that s helping me was just doing her job so I was always cheerful. She told me she preciated that. Good luck in May. arcia -- On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ote: rom: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> bject: Re: ssi : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com te: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:18 PM hank you, it's great to hear from someone who has just gone through the perience. My son rarely sees a doctor, about twice a year for the ychiatrist and once a year for a regular checkup so I won't have a lot to say that regard :-) may still be picking your brain but I guess I can sit tight until 5/1. ary H. ----Original Message----- rom: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 3:44 pm ubject: Re: ssi hanks for asking these questions..I will tell you my experience. You are rrect that nothing can be done until the month following the 18th birthday.... rst of all we had to obtain a lawyer and get guardianship of our son as soon possible after his 18th birthday. I recommend not contacting Social Security til May 1. I called in Dec to make the appt in Jan and asked them if that was .. I was given the ok but when I had my phone interview, the interviewer nted to go back to the day I called for the appt. and use my husband and mine come. I said that I would cancel this appt and make another one, especially nce I had asked ahead of time about the timing. She then dropped it and said e would date it for the day of the interview. When you call after May 1st, d set up your phone interview, they will send you a packet for you to fill t. It contained papers that give them consent to contact whoever they needed as ar as doctors and financial institutions to verify any information. It will so include a website for you to fill out paperwork. Allow lots of time, pecially if your son has had many doctors and appts. They want to know erytime he has seen the doctor, what doctor, including address and phone mber and what the appt was for. This needs to be done before the phone terview. They will go over all of this in the phone interview also, in case u might have forgotton something. I would say it took me 2 hours to fill out e work online, and did not have many medical problems and the phone terview took another hour. You have time to get all this stuff together fore then. My interviewer said she would send it in that day via the internet d it could take anywhere from 1 to 4 months to get an answer. She did mail me opy of what was sent in. Go over it carefully because I found errors and lled them back to correct them. All n all it was pretty painless and I am excited for my son to be able to get me things for himself that he may not have been to otherwise. Good luck and I pe this helps. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me. arcia -- On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ote: rom: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> bject: Re: ssi : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com te: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:00 PM i Marcia: kay, my questions are, if turns 18 on 4/20 I shouldn't do anything plication wise to SSI until May 1st? lso, is there preliminary paperwork or appointments I should set up prior to is date? Are there certain forms that I need to print off and fill out? That e doctor needs to fill out prior to a schedule appointment or phone call after y 1st? Most of what I've read online indicates that after the in person or one interview takes place and I sign consents to release information they ntact those who need to supply needed information directly. hanks, ary ----Original Message----- rom: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm ubject: ssi unshinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you ntact me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email arcia Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ----------- --------- --------- ------ ahoo! Groups Links ndividual Email | Traditional ttp://docs. / info/terms/ Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ----------- --------- --------- ------ ahoo! 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Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Not exactly. When Social Security makes a decision, they actually make 3 decisions: 1) do the medical records support disability? 2) what is the date of onset of the disability? 3) can the applicant handle their own funds or do they need a payee? If a person is assigned a payee, that is because a determination was made in Springfield that the applicant could not handle their own funds. That is why the payee should be the only signer on the payee bank account. If the applicant signs checks, it may be construed by Social Security that the applicant is NOW able to handle their own funds; maybe the disabling condition is getting better; this may spur a medical review. Hope this helps. -Sherri  ________________________________ From: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:43:35 AM Subject: Re: ssi  I haven't set anything up yet, if I'm his payee then I have to write the checks, correct? and if I'm not the payee then there could be a redetermination issue? I think I just answered my own question.... ..:-) I need to make sure he looks as helpless as possible which doesn't set well with me but I know it's part of the game we have to play. H. Re: ssi Are you his payee? ____________ _________ _________ _ rom: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:27:49 AM ubject: Re: ssi Yes, Sherri, you are such a god send to this list for providing this information o us. hank you! ary H. S: If I were open a checking account for 's SSI funds to be deposited into an he write checks for partial payments toward utility bills? Or say the cable nd/or internet bills? -----Original Message----- rom: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@sbcglobal . net> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:07 am ubject: Re: ssi Hi Sherri, my son gets SSDI. I just have the money direct deposited to my count. He is not even on the account. It has been this way since he turned about 10 years ago. Are the rules for SSDI different? I am the payee. I am happy to hear you can get the answers for us. Every time I call Social curity it takes forever to get an answer and I get different answers every me. I just say oh well, I will keep doing what I am doing and if they don't ke it, they will let me know. Thanks Sherri. irley -- On Tue, 3/2/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: rom: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> bject: Re: ssi : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com te: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 1:55 PM All of the information I post is from either: a technical expert at a Social Security office ocial Security's Procedure Operating Manual District Manager at a Social Security office had to resort to the top as I would always get different answers each time I oke with someone from Social Security. This was so frustrating to me that I w have relationships with people who can show me where answers actually come om so I believe these sources to be reliable.Also, from working in the renches " for over 30 years, I have seen many things and I always suggest the th of least resistance. ope this helps. ___________ _________ _________ __ om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Fri, February 26, 2010 7:10:42 PM bject: Re: ssi hat is way different info than they gave me -- On Fri, 2/26/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: rom: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> bject: Re: ssi : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com te: Friday, February 26, 2010, 7:06 PM If you are the payee, that means that Social Security has determined that your ult child cannot handle their own funds. The checking account should be tled: your name, as representative payee for your child's name. It should be ened under HIS Social Security number and YOU should be the ONLY signer. If cial Security sees that he is signing, it could spur a medical redetermination cause he is now able to handle money. ___________ _________ _________ __ rom: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Thu, February 25, 2010 2:22:28 PM ubject: Re: ssi Thanks, that's what I was thinking. ----Original Message----- rom: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 2:02 pm ubject: Re: ssi hey said to open a checking account with 's name as a primary and me as the ee. They also said it would be ok with them if it had s name first and ne as a co signature. Our credit union requires a savings account along with e checking acct. arcia -- On Thu, 2/25/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ote: rom: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> bject: Re: ssi : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com te: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM have another quick question. o most of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited o? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm suming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking count when he starts transition in the fall. hanks, ary H. ----Original Message----- rom: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 10:14 am ubject: Re: ssi i , ust to let you know that was approved finally. When it comes to your turn this just know one thing....patience. ..of course we have learned that ready. I filed and refiled and then more papers,,,then a paper to call ain,,,but that was the good news....approved. I realized that the girl that s helping me was just doing her job so I was always cheerful. She told me she preciated that. Good luck in May. arcia -- On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ote: rom: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> bject: Re: ssi : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com te: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:18 PM hank you, it's great to hear from someone who has just gone through the perience. My son rarely sees a doctor, about twice a year for the ychiatrist and once a year for a regular checkup so I won't have a lot to say that regard :-) may still be picking your brain but I guess I can sit tight until 5/1. ary H. ----Original Message----- rom: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 3:44 pm ubject: Re: ssi hanks for asking these questions..I will tell you my experience. You are rrect that nothing can be done until the month following the 18th birthday.... rst of all we had to obtain a lawyer and get guardianship of our son as soon possible after his 18th birthday. I recommend not contacting Social Security til May 1. I called in Dec to make the appt in Jan and asked them if that was .. I was given the ok but when I had my phone interview, the interviewer nted to go back to the day I called for the appt. and use my husband and mine come. I said that I would cancel this appt and make another one, especially nce I had asked ahead of time about the timing. She then dropped it and said e would date it for the day of the interview. When you call after May 1st, d set up your phone interview, they will send you a packet for you to fill t. It contained papers that give them consent to contact whoever they needed as ar as doctors and financial institutions to verify any information. It will so include a website for you to fill out paperwork. Allow lots of time, pecially if your son has had many doctors and appts. They want to know erytime he has seen the doctor, what doctor, including address and phone mber and what the appt was for. This needs to be done before the phone terview. They will go over all of this in the phone interview also, in case u might have forgotton something. I would say it took me 2 hours to fill out e work online, and did not have many medical problems and the phone terview took another hour. You have time to get all this stuff together fore then. My interviewer said she would send it in that day via the internet d it could take anywhere from 1 to 4 months to get an answer. She did mail me opy of what was sent in. Go over it carefully because I found errors and lled them back to correct them. All n all it was pretty painless and I am excited for my son to be able to get me things for himself that he may not have been to otherwise. Good luck and I pe this helps. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me. arcia -- On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ote: rom: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> bject: Re: ssi : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com te: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:00 PM i Marcia: kay, my questions are, if turns 18 on 4/20 I shouldn't do anything plication wise to SSI until May 1st? lso, is there preliminary paperwork or appointments I should set up prior to is date? Are there certain forms that I need to print off and fill out? That e doctor needs to fill out prior to a schedule appointment or phone call after y 1st? Most of what I've read online indicates that after the in person or one interview takes place and I sign consents to release information they ntact those who need to supply needed information directly. hanks, ary ----Original Message----- rom: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm ubject: ssi unshinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you ntact me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email arcia Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ----------- --------- --------- ------ ahoo! Groups Links ndividual Email | Traditional ttp://docs. / info/terms/ Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ----------- --------- --------- ------ ahoo! 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Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 My e-mail address is benefithelp@... ________________________________ From: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 9:51:40 AM Subject: Re: ssi  Sherri, can I email you directly with a few questions? Thank you, Shirley From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ubject: Re: ssi o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ate: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM I have another quick question. Do most of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited nto? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm ssuming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking ccount when he starts transition in the fall. Thanks, H. ssi sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you ontact me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 My e-mail address is benefithelp@... ________________________________ From: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 9:51:40 AM Subject: Re: ssi  Sherri, can I email you directly with a few questions? Thank you, Shirley From: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ubject: Re: ssi o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ate: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM I have another quick question. Do most of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited nto? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm ssuming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking ccount when he starts transition in the fall. Thanks, H. ssi sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you ontact me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hello Sherri, This question may be helpful to others, so I'm posting to the group. How do hospital stays affect SSI benefits? Are they considered a change in " living arrangement " if the stay is less than a month, or if there are multiple stays within a period of time? I haven't been able to get a consistent answer from my local SS office. Who would I report them to? Many thanks, W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hello Sherri, This question may be helpful to others, so I'm posting to the group. How do hospital stays affect SSI benefits? Are they considered a change in " living arrangement " if the stay is less than a month, or if there are multiple stays within a period of time? I haven't been able to get a consistent answer from my local SS office. Who would I report them to? Many thanks, W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 We only need to report to SSI if the hospital stay or an out of country visit lasts for 30 days or more. For a hospital stay, this would be if one continuous stay is 30 days or more. If we get discharged &  sleep at home and then get re-admitted, this does not need to be reported. All reporting has to be done at your local SSI office. They have SSI staff there - usually assigned by alpha-bet of last name. I always recommend - certified mail - return signature receipt. This way, you have a copy of the letter you sent & proof that SSI received it. This helps shift the burden of proof in case no one at SSI claims to have received it from you. Hope this helps. -Sherri ________________________________ From: " mysticpatricia@... " <mysticpatricia@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 12:00:16 AM Subject: Re: ssi  Hello Sherri, This question may be helpful to others, so I'm posting to the group. How do hospital stays affect SSI benefits? Are they considered a change in " living arrangement " if the stay is less than a month, or if there are multiple stays within a period of time? I haven't been able to get a consistent answer from my local SS office. Who would I report them to? Many thanks, W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 We only need to report to SSI if the hospital stay or an out of country visit lasts for 30 days or more. For a hospital stay, this would be if one continuous stay is 30 days or more. If we get discharged &  sleep at home and then get re-admitted, this does not need to be reported. All reporting has to be done at your local SSI office. They have SSI staff there - usually assigned by alpha-bet of last name. I always recommend - certified mail - return signature receipt. This way, you have a copy of the letter you sent & proof that SSI received it. This helps shift the burden of proof in case no one at SSI claims to have received it from you. Hope this helps. -Sherri ________________________________ From: " mysticpatricia@... " <mysticpatricia@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 12:00:16 AM Subject: Re: ssi  Hello Sherri, This question may be helpful to others, so I'm posting to the group. How do hospital stays affect SSI benefits? Are they considered a change in " living arrangement " if the stay is less than a month, or if there are multiple stays within a period of time? I haven't been able to get a consistent answer from my local SS office. Who would I report them to? Many thanks, W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hi Sherri, well #3 contradicts what they will be teaching in transition this fall. They would like to have a checking account set up that he can use to pay for things like his YMCA weekly fee ($10.00) and they will be teaching him to write his own checks, use a debit card, etc. They said most parents only keep $100 in the account at a time. So if SSI finds out about this account which I'm sure over time they will this could show his independence in ability to handle money? Thanks, Re: ssi Not exactly. hen Social Security makes a decision, they actually make 3 decisions: ) do the medical records support disability? ) what is the date of onset of the disability? ) can the applicant handle their own funds or do they need a payee? If a person is assigned a payee, that is because a determination was made in pringfield that the applicant could not handle their own funds. That is why the ayee should be the only signer on the payee bank account. If the applicant igns checks, it may be construed by Social Security that the applicant is NOW ble to handle their own funds; maybe the disabling condition is getting better; his may spur a medical review. Hope this helps. Sherri ________________________________ rom: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...> o: IPADDUnite ent: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:43:35 AM ubject: Re: ssi I haven't set anything up yet, if I'm his payee then I have to write the checks, orrect? and if I'm not the payee then there could be a redetermination issue? think I just answered my own question.... ..:-) I need to make sure he looks s helpless as possible which doesn't set well with me but I know it's part of he game we have to play. ary H. -----Original Message----- rom: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:35 am ubject: Re: ssi Are you his payee? ____________ _________ _________ _ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:27:49 AM bject: Re: ssi Yes, Sherri, you are such a god send to this list for providing this information o us. ank you! ry H. : If I were open a checking account for 's SSI funds to be deposited into n he write checks for partial payments toward utility bills? Or say the cable d/or internet bills? ----Original Message----- om: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@sbcglobal . net> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:07 am bject: Re: ssi i Sherri, my son gets SSDI. I just have the money direct deposited to my ount. He is not even on the account. It has been this way since he turned bout 10 years ago. Are the rules for SSDI different? I am the payee. I am appy to hear you can get the answers for us. Every time I call Social urity it takes forever to get an answer and I get different answers every e. I just say oh well, I will keep doing what I am doing and if they don't e it, they will let me know. Thanks Sherri. rley - On Tue, 3/2/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 1:55 PM ll of the information I post is from either: technical expert at a Social Security office cial Security's Procedure Operating Manual istrict Manager at a Social Security office ad to resort to the top as I would always get different answers each time I ke with someone from Social Security. This was so frustrating to me that I have relationships with people who can show me where answers actually come m so I believe these sources to be reliable.Also, from working in the enches " for over 30 years, I have seen many things and I always suggest the h of least resistance. pe this helps. __________ _________ _________ __ m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Fri, February 26, 2010 7:10:42 PM ject: Re: ssi at is way different info than they gave me - On Fri, 2/26/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Friday, February 26, 2010, 7:06 PM f you are the payee, that means that Social Security has determined that your lt child cannot handle their own funds. The checking account should be led: your name, as representative payee for your child's name. It should be ned under HIS Social Security number and YOU should be the ONLY signer. If ial Security sees that he is signing, it could spur a medical redetermination ause he is now able to handle money. __________ _________ _________ __ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, February 25, 2010 2:22:28 PM bject: Re: ssi hanks, that's what I was thinking. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 2:02 pm bject: Re: ssi ey said to open a checking account with 's name as a primary and me as the ee. They also said it would be ok with them if it had s name first and e as a co signature. Our credit union requires a savings account along with checking acct. rcia - On Thu, 2/25/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM ave another quick question. most of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited o? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm uming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking ount when he starts transition in the fall. anks, ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 10:14 am bject: Re: ssi , st to let you know that was approved finally. When it comes to your turn his just know one thing....patience. ..of course we have learned that eady. I filed and refiled and then more papers,,,then a paper to call in,,,but that was the good news....approved. I realized that the girl that helping me was just doing her job so I was always cheerful. She told me she reciated that. Good luck in May. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:18 PM ank you, it's great to hear from someone who has just gone through the erience. My son rarely sees a doctor, about twice a year for the chiatrist and once a year for a regular checkup so I won't have a lot to say hat regard :-) ay still be picking your brain but I guess I can sit tight until 5/1. ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 3:44 pm bject: Re: ssi anks for asking these questions..I will tell you my experience. You are rect that nothing can be done until the month following the 18th birthday.... st of all we had to obtain a lawyer and get guardianship of our son as soon ossible after his 18th birthday. I recommend not contacting Social Security il May 1. I called in Dec to make the appt in Jan and asked them if that was I was given the ok but when I had my phone interview, the interviewer ted to go back to the day I called for the appt. and use my husband and mine ome. I said that I would cancel this appt and make another one, especially ce I had asked ahead of time about the timing. She then dropped it and said would date it for the day of the interview. When you call after May 1st, set up your phone interview, they will send you a packet for you to fill .. It contained papers that give them consent to contact whoever they needed s r as doctors and financial institutions to verify any information. It will o include a website for you to fill out paperwork. Allow lots of time, ecially if your son has had many doctors and appts. They want to know rytime he has seen the doctor, what doctor, including address and phone ber and what the appt was for. This needs to be done before the phone erview. They will go over all of this in the phone interview also, in case might have forgotton something. I would say it took me 2 hours to fill out work online, and did not have many medical problems and the phone erview took another hour. You have time to get all this stuff together ore then. My interviewer said she would send it in that day via the internet it could take anywhere from 1 to 4 months to get an answer. She did mail me py of what was sent in. Go over it carefully because I found errors and led them back to correct them. All all it was pretty painless and I am excited for my son to be able to get e things for himself that he may not have been to otherwise. Good luck and I e this helps. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:00 PM Marcia: ay, my questions are, if turns 18 on 4/20 I shouldn't do anything lication wise to SSI until May 1st? so, is there preliminary paperwork or appointments I should set up prior to s date? Are there certain forms that I need to print off and fill out? That doctor needs to fill out prior to a schedule appointment or phone call after 1st? Most of what I've read online indicates that after the in person or ne interview takes place and I sign consents to release information they tact those who need to supply needed information directly. anks, ry ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm bject: ssi nshinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you tact me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email rcia on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! Groups Links dividual Email | Traditional tp://docs. / info/terms/ on-text portions of this message have been removed] on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Hi Sherri, well #3 contradicts what they will be teaching in transition this fall. They would like to have a checking account set up that he can use to pay for things like his YMCA weekly fee ($10.00) and they will be teaching him to write his own checks, use a debit card, etc. They said most parents only keep $100 in the account at a time. So if SSI finds out about this account which I'm sure over time they will this could show his independence in ability to handle money? Thanks, Re: ssi Not exactly. hen Social Security makes a decision, they actually make 3 decisions: ) do the medical records support disability? ) what is the date of onset of the disability? ) can the applicant handle their own funds or do they need a payee? If a person is assigned a payee, that is because a determination was made in pringfield that the applicant could not handle their own funds. That is why the ayee should be the only signer on the payee bank account. If the applicant igns checks, it may be construed by Social Security that the applicant is NOW ble to handle their own funds; maybe the disabling condition is getting better; his may spur a medical review. Hope this helps. Sherri ________________________________ rom: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...> o: IPADDUnite ent: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:43:35 AM ubject: Re: ssi I haven't set anything up yet, if I'm his payee then I have to write the checks, orrect? and if I'm not the payee then there could be a redetermination issue? think I just answered my own question.... ..:-) I need to make sure he looks s helpless as possible which doesn't set well with me but I know it's part of he game we have to play. ary H. -----Original Message----- rom: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:35 am ubject: Re: ssi Are you his payee? ____________ _________ _________ _ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:27:49 AM bject: Re: ssi Yes, Sherri, you are such a god send to this list for providing this information o us. ank you! ry H. : If I were open a checking account for 's SSI funds to be deposited into n he write checks for partial payments toward utility bills? Or say the cable d/or internet bills? ----Original Message----- om: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@sbcglobal . net> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:07 am bject: Re: ssi i Sherri, my son gets SSDI. I just have the money direct deposited to my ount. He is not even on the account. It has been this way since he turned bout 10 years ago. Are the rules for SSDI different? I am the payee. I am appy to hear you can get the answers for us. Every time I call Social urity it takes forever to get an answer and I get different answers every e. I just say oh well, I will keep doing what I am doing and if they don't e it, they will let me know. Thanks Sherri. rley - On Tue, 3/2/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 1:55 PM ll of the information I post is from either: technical expert at a Social Security office cial Security's Procedure Operating Manual istrict Manager at a Social Security office ad to resort to the top as I would always get different answers each time I ke with someone from Social Security. This was so frustrating to me that I have relationships with people who can show me where answers actually come m so I believe these sources to be reliable.Also, from working in the enches " for over 30 years, I have seen many things and I always suggest the h of least resistance. pe this helps. __________ _________ _________ __ m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Fri, February 26, 2010 7:10:42 PM ject: Re: ssi at is way different info than they gave me - On Fri, 2/26/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Friday, February 26, 2010, 7:06 PM f you are the payee, that means that Social Security has determined that your lt child cannot handle their own funds. The checking account should be led: your name, as representative payee for your child's name. It should be ned under HIS Social Security number and YOU should be the ONLY signer. If ial Security sees that he is signing, it could spur a medical redetermination ause he is now able to handle money. __________ _________ _________ __ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, February 25, 2010 2:22:28 PM bject: Re: ssi hanks, that's what I was thinking. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 2:02 pm bject: Re: ssi ey said to open a checking account with 's name as a primary and me as the ee. They also said it would be ok with them if it had s name first and e as a co signature. Our credit union requires a savings account along with checking acct. rcia - On Thu, 2/25/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM ave another quick question. most of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited o? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm uming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking ount when he starts transition in the fall. anks, ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 10:14 am bject: Re: ssi , st to let you know that was approved finally. When it comes to your turn his just know one thing....patience. ..of course we have learned that eady. I filed and refiled and then more papers,,,then a paper to call in,,,but that was the good news....approved. I realized that the girl that helping me was just doing her job so I was always cheerful. She told me she reciated that. Good luck in May. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:18 PM ank you, it's great to hear from someone who has just gone through the erience. My son rarely sees a doctor, about twice a year for the chiatrist and once a year for a regular checkup so I won't have a lot to say hat regard :-) ay still be picking your brain but I guess I can sit tight until 5/1. ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 3:44 pm bject: Re: ssi anks for asking these questions..I will tell you my experience. You are rect that nothing can be done until the month following the 18th birthday.... st of all we had to obtain a lawyer and get guardianship of our son as soon ossible after his 18th birthday. I recommend not contacting Social Security il May 1. I called in Dec to make the appt in Jan and asked them if that was I was given the ok but when I had my phone interview, the interviewer ted to go back to the day I called for the appt. and use my husband and mine ome. I said that I would cancel this appt and make another one, especially ce I had asked ahead of time about the timing. She then dropped it and said would date it for the day of the interview. When you call after May 1st, set up your phone interview, they will send you a packet for you to fill .. It contained papers that give them consent to contact whoever they needed s r as doctors and financial institutions to verify any information. It will o include a website for you to fill out paperwork. Allow lots of time, ecially if your son has had many doctors and appts. They want to know rytime he has seen the doctor, what doctor, including address and phone ber and what the appt was for. This needs to be done before the phone erview. They will go over all of this in the phone interview also, in case might have forgotton something. I would say it took me 2 hours to fill out work online, and did not have many medical problems and the phone erview took another hour. You have time to get all this stuff together ore then. My interviewer said she would send it in that day via the internet it could take anywhere from 1 to 4 months to get an answer. She did mail me py of what was sent in. Go over it carefully because I found errors and led them back to correct them. All all it was pretty painless and I am excited for my son to be able to get e things for himself that he may not have been to otherwise. Good luck and I e this helps. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:00 PM Marcia: ay, my questions are, if turns 18 on 4/20 I shouldn't do anything lication wise to SSI until May 1st? so, is there preliminary paperwork or appointments I should set up prior to s date? Are there certain forms that I need to print off and fill out? That doctor needs to fill out prior to a schedule appointment or phone call after 1st? Most of what I've read online indicates that after the in person or ne interview takes place and I sign consents to release information they tact those who need to supply needed information directly. anks, ry ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm bject: ssi nshinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you tact me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email rcia on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! Groups Links dividual Email | Traditional tp://docs. / info/terms/ on-text portions of this message have been removed] on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Most transition and post high school programs contradict SSI. (I as a parent contradict SSI - I want my child to learn and do what he is able) While we are trying to have our adult child learn self sufficient skills, SSI states that they provide benefits to individuals who are permanently and totally disabled. If our child has developmental disabilties and Springfield states that they need a payee, then a payee is assigned because SSI has reviewed the medical records and has determined that they cannot handle their own funds. BUT WE WANT to teach them to do so.........URGH!!!! I would set up a joint account for the school issues. If SSI has questions, I would explain that the school and his parent (joint signer) is helping him with it. Unfortunately, in my experience, I have seen SSI having very rigid rules. Fortunately, I have seen this work with few difficulties. ________________________________ From: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 9:27:41 AM Subject: Re: ssi  Hi Sherri, well #3 contradicts what they will be teaching in transition this fall. They would like to have a checking account set up that he can use to pay for things like his YMCA weekly fee ($10.00) and they will be teaching him to write his own checks, use a debit card, etc. They said most parents only keep $100 in the account at a time. So if SSI finds out about this account which I'm sure over time they will this could show his independence in ability to handle money? Thanks, Re: ssi Not exactly. hen Social Security makes a decision, they actually make 3 decisions: ) do the medical records support disability? ) what is the date of onset of the disability? ) can the applicant handle their own funds or do they need a payee? If a person is assigned a payee, that is because a determination was made in pringfield that the applicant could not handle their own funds. That is why the ayee should be the only signer on the payee bank account. If the applicant igns checks, it may be construed by Social Security that the applicant is NOW ble to handle their own funds; maybe the disabling condition is getting better; his may spur a medical review. Hope this helps. Sherri ____________ _________ _________ __ rom: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:43:35 AM ubject: Re: ssi I haven't set anything up yet, if I'm his payee then I have to write the checks, orrect? and if I'm not the payee then there could be a redetermination issue? think I just answered my own question.... ..:-) I need to make sure he looks s helpless as possible which doesn't set well with me but I know it's part of he game we have to play. ary H. -----Original Message----- rom: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:35 am ubject: Re: ssi Are you his payee? ____________ _________ _________ _ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:27:49 AM bject: Re: ssi Yes, Sherri, you are such a god send to this list for providing this information o us. ank you! ry H. : If I were open a checking account for 's SSI funds to be deposited into n he write checks for partial payments toward utility bills? Or say the cable d/or internet bills? ----Original Message----- om: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@sbcglobal . net> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:07 am bject: Re: ssi i Sherri, my son gets SSDI. I just have the money direct deposited to my ount. He is not even on the account. It has been this way since he turned bout 10 years ago. Are the rules for SSDI different? I am the payee. I am appy to hear you can get the answers for us. Every time I call Social urity it takes forever to get an answer and I get different answers every e. I just say oh well, I will keep doing what I am doing and if they don't e it, they will let me know. Thanks Sherri. rley - On Tue, 3/2/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 1:55 PM ll of the information I post is from either: technical expert at a Social Security office cial Security's Procedure Operating Manual istrict Manager at a Social Security office ad to resort to the top as I would always get different answers each time I ke with someone from Social Security. This was so frustrating to me that I have relationships with people who can show me where answers actually come m so I believe these sources to be reliable.Also, from working in the enches " for over 30 years, I have seen many things and I always suggest the h of least resistance. pe this helps. __________ _________ _________ __ m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Fri, February 26, 2010 7:10:42 PM ject: Re: ssi at is way different info than they gave me - On Fri, 2/26/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Friday, February 26, 2010, 7:06 PM f you are the payee, that means that Social Security has determined that your lt child cannot handle their own funds. The checking account should be led: your name, as representative payee for your child's name. It should be ned under HIS Social Security number and YOU should be the ONLY signer. If ial Security sees that he is signing, it could spur a medical redetermination ause he is now able to handle money. __________ _________ _________ __ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, February 25, 2010 2:22:28 PM bject: Re: ssi hanks, that's what I was thinking. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 2:02 pm bject: Re: ssi ey said to open a checking account with 's name as a primary and me as the ee. They also said it would be ok with them if it had s name first and e as a co signature. Our credit union requires a savings account along with checking acct. rcia - On Thu, 2/25/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM ave another quick question. most of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited o? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm uming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking ount when he starts transition in the fall. anks, ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 10:14 am bject: Re: ssi , st to let you know that was approved finally. When it comes to your turn his just know one thing....patience. ..of course we have learned that eady. I filed and refiled and then more papers,,,then a paper to call in,,,but that was the good news....approved. I realized that the girl that helping me was just doing her job so I was always cheerful. She told me she reciated that. Good luck in May. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:18 PM ank you, it's great to hear from someone who has just gone through the erience. My son rarely sees a doctor, about twice a year for the chiatrist and once a year for a regular checkup so I won't have a lot to say hat regard :-) ay still be picking your brain but I guess I can sit tight until 5/1. ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 3:44 pm bject: Re: ssi anks for asking these questions..I will tell you my experience. You are rect that nothing can be done until the month following the 18th birthday.... st of all we had to obtain a lawyer and get guardianship of our son as soon ossible after his 18th birthday. I recommend not contacting Social Security il May 1. I called in Dec to make the appt in Jan and asked them if that was I was given the ok but when I had my phone interview, the interviewer ted to go back to the day I called for the appt. and use my husband and mine ome. I said that I would cancel this appt and make another one, especially ce I had asked ahead of time about the timing. She then dropped it and said would date it for the day of the interview. When you call after May 1st, set up your phone interview, they will send you a packet for you to fill .. It contained papers that give them consent to contact whoever they needed s r as doctors and financial institutions to verify any information. It will o include a website for you to fill out paperwork. Allow lots of time, ecially if your son has had many doctors and appts. They want to know rytime he has seen the doctor, what doctor, including address and phone ber and what the appt was for. This needs to be done before the phone erview. They will go over all of this in the phone interview also, in case might have forgotton something. I would say it took me 2 hours to fill out work online, and did not have many medical problems and the phone erview took another hour. You have time to get all this stuff together ore then. My interviewer said she would send it in that day via the internet it could take anywhere from 1 to 4 months to get an answer. She did mail me py of what was sent in. Go over it carefully because I found errors and led them back to correct them. All all it was pretty painless and I am excited for my son to be able to get e things for himself that he may not have been to otherwise. Good luck and I e this helps. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:00 PM Marcia: ay, my questions are, if turns 18 on 4/20 I shouldn't do anything lication wise to SSI until May 1st? so, is there preliminary paperwork or appointments I should set up prior to s date? Are there certain forms that I need to print off and fill out? That doctor needs to fill out prior to a schedule appointment or phone call after 1st? Most of what I've read online indicates that after the in person or ne interview takes place and I sign consents to release information they tact those who need to supply needed information directly. anks, ry ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm bject: ssi nshinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you tact me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email rcia on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! Groups Links dividual Email | Traditional tp://docs. / info/terms/ on-text portions of this message have been removed] on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Most transition and post high school programs contradict SSI. (I as a parent contradict SSI - I want my child to learn and do what he is able) While we are trying to have our adult child learn self sufficient skills, SSI states that they provide benefits to individuals who are permanently and totally disabled. If our child has developmental disabilties and Springfield states that they need a payee, then a payee is assigned because SSI has reviewed the medical records and has determined that they cannot handle their own funds. BUT WE WANT to teach them to do so.........URGH!!!! I would set up a joint account for the school issues. If SSI has questions, I would explain that the school and his parent (joint signer) is helping him with it. Unfortunately, in my experience, I have seen SSI having very rigid rules. Fortunately, I have seen this work with few difficulties. ________________________________ From: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...> IPADDUnite Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 9:27:41 AM Subject: Re: ssi  Hi Sherri, well #3 contradicts what they will be teaching in transition this fall. They would like to have a checking account set up that he can use to pay for things like his YMCA weekly fee ($10.00) and they will be teaching him to write his own checks, use a debit card, etc. They said most parents only keep $100 in the account at a time. So if SSI finds out about this account which I'm sure over time they will this could show his independence in ability to handle money? Thanks, Re: ssi Not exactly. hen Social Security makes a decision, they actually make 3 decisions: ) do the medical records support disability? ) what is the date of onset of the disability? ) can the applicant handle their own funds or do they need a payee? If a person is assigned a payee, that is because a determination was made in pringfield that the applicant could not handle their own funds. That is why the ayee should be the only signer on the payee bank account. If the applicant igns checks, it may be construed by Social Security that the applicant is NOW ble to handle their own funds; maybe the disabling condition is getting better; his may spur a medical review. Hope this helps. Sherri ____________ _________ _________ __ rom: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:43:35 AM ubject: Re: ssi I haven't set anything up yet, if I'm his payee then I have to write the checks, orrect? and if I'm not the payee then there could be a redetermination issue? think I just answered my own question.... ..:-) I need to make sure he looks s helpless as possible which doesn't set well with me but I know it's part of he game we have to play. ary H. -----Original Message----- rom: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:35 am ubject: Re: ssi Are you his payee? ____________ _________ _________ _ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:27:49 AM bject: Re: ssi Yes, Sherri, you are such a god send to this list for providing this information o us. ank you! ry H. : If I were open a checking account for 's SSI funds to be deposited into n he write checks for partial payments toward utility bills? Or say the cable d/or internet bills? ----Original Message----- om: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@sbcglobal . net> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:07 am bject: Re: ssi i Sherri, my son gets SSDI. I just have the money direct deposited to my ount. He is not even on the account. It has been this way since he turned bout 10 years ago. Are the rules for SSDI different? I am the payee. I am appy to hear you can get the answers for us. Every time I call Social urity it takes forever to get an answer and I get different answers every e. I just say oh well, I will keep doing what I am doing and if they don't e it, they will let me know. Thanks Sherri. rley - On Tue, 3/2/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 1:55 PM ll of the information I post is from either: technical expert at a Social Security office cial Security's Procedure Operating Manual istrict Manager at a Social Security office ad to resort to the top as I would always get different answers each time I ke with someone from Social Security. This was so frustrating to me that I have relationships with people who can show me where answers actually come m so I believe these sources to be reliable.Also, from working in the enches " for over 30 years, I have seen many things and I always suggest the h of least resistance. pe this helps. __________ _________ _________ __ m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Fri, February 26, 2010 7:10:42 PM ject: Re: ssi at is way different info than they gave me - On Fri, 2/26/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Friday, February 26, 2010, 7:06 PM f you are the payee, that means that Social Security has determined that your lt child cannot handle their own funds. The checking account should be led: your name, as representative payee for your child's name. It should be ned under HIS Social Security number and YOU should be the ONLY signer. If ial Security sees that he is signing, it could spur a medical redetermination ause he is now able to handle money. __________ _________ _________ __ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, February 25, 2010 2:22:28 PM bject: Re: ssi hanks, that's what I was thinking. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 2:02 pm bject: Re: ssi ey said to open a checking account with 's name as a primary and me as the ee. They also said it would be ok with them if it had s name first and e as a co signature. Our credit union requires a savings account along with checking acct. rcia - On Thu, 2/25/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM ave another quick question. most of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited o? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm uming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking ount when he starts transition in the fall. anks, ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 10:14 am bject: Re: ssi , st to let you know that was approved finally. When it comes to your turn his just know one thing....patience. ..of course we have learned that eady. I filed and refiled and then more papers,,,then a paper to call in,,,but that was the good news....approved. I realized that the girl that helping me was just doing her job so I was always cheerful. She told me she reciated that. Good luck in May. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:18 PM ank you, it's great to hear from someone who has just gone through the erience. My son rarely sees a doctor, about twice a year for the chiatrist and once a year for a regular checkup so I won't have a lot to say hat regard :-) ay still be picking your brain but I guess I can sit tight until 5/1. ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 3:44 pm bject: Re: ssi anks for asking these questions..I will tell you my experience. You are rect that nothing can be done until the month following the 18th birthday.... st of all we had to obtain a lawyer and get guardianship of our son as soon ossible after his 18th birthday. I recommend not contacting Social Security il May 1. I called in Dec to make the appt in Jan and asked them if that was I was given the ok but when I had my phone interview, the interviewer ted to go back to the day I called for the appt. and use my husband and mine ome. I said that I would cancel this appt and make another one, especially ce I had asked ahead of time about the timing. She then dropped it and said would date it for the day of the interview. When you call after May 1st, set up your phone interview, they will send you a packet for you to fill .. It contained papers that give them consent to contact whoever they needed s r as doctors and financial institutions to verify any information. It will o include a website for you to fill out paperwork. Allow lots of time, ecially if your son has had many doctors and appts. They want to know rytime he has seen the doctor, what doctor, including address and phone ber and what the appt was for. This needs to be done before the phone erview. They will go over all of this in the phone interview also, in case might have forgotton something. I would say it took me 2 hours to fill out work online, and did not have many medical problems and the phone erview took another hour. You have time to get all this stuff together ore then. My interviewer said she would send it in that day via the internet it could take anywhere from 1 to 4 months to get an answer. She did mail me py of what was sent in. Go over it carefully because I found errors and led them back to correct them. All all it was pretty painless and I am excited for my son to be able to get e things for himself that he may not have been to otherwise. Good luck and I e this helps. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:00 PM Marcia: ay, my questions are, if turns 18 on 4/20 I shouldn't do anything lication wise to SSI until May 1st? so, is there preliminary paperwork or appointments I should set up prior to s date? Are there certain forms that I need to print off and fill out? That doctor needs to fill out prior to a schedule appointment or phone call after 1st? Most of what I've read online indicates that after the in person or ne interview takes place and I sign consents to release information they tact those who need to supply needed information directly. anks, ry ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm bject: ssi nshinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you tact me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email rcia on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! Groups Links dividual Email | Traditional tp://docs. / info/terms/ on-text portions of this message have been removed] on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 It's all so crazy and should not have to be made this difficult should it? Okay, that is what I will do! Thanks again for your help! Re: ssi Most transition and post high school programs contradict SSI. (I as a parent ontradict SSI - I want my child to learn and do what he is able) hile we are trying to have our adult child learn self sufficient skills, SSI tates that they provide benefits to individuals who are permanently and totally isabled. If our child has developmental disabilties and Springfield states that hey need a payee, then a payee is assigned because SSI has reviewed the medical ecords and has determined that they cannot handle their own funds. BUT WE WANT o teach them to do so.........URGH!!!! I would set up a joint account for the school issues. If SSI has questions, I ould explain that the school and his parent (joint signer) is helping him with t. Unfortunately, in my experience, I have seen SSI having very rigid rules. ortunately, I have seen this work with few difficulties. ________________________________ rom: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...> o: IPADDUnite ent: Wed, March 3, 2010 9:27:41 AM ubject: Re: ssi Hi Sherri, well #3 contradicts what they will be teaching in transition this all. They would like to have a checking account set up that he can use to ay for things like his YMCA weekly fee ($10.00) and they will be teaching him o write his own checks, use a debit card, etc. They said most parents only keep 100 in the account at a time. o if SSI finds out about this account which I'm sure over time they will this ould show his independence in ability to handle money? hanks, ary -----Original Message----- rom: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 9:58 am ubject: Re: ssi Not exactly. en Social Security makes a decision, they actually make 3 decisions: do the medical records support disability? what is the date of onset of the disability? can the applicant handle their own funds or do they need a payee? f a person is assigned a payee, that is because a determination was made in ringfield that the applicant could not handle their own funds. That is why the yee should be the only signer on the payee bank account. If the applicant gns checks, it may be construed by Social Security that the applicant is NOW le to handle their own funds; maybe the disabling condition is getting better; is may spur a medical review. ope this helps. herri ____________ _________ _________ __ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:43:35 AM bject: Re: ssi I haven't set anything up yet, if I'm his payee then I have to write the checks, orrect? and if I'm not the payee then there could be a redetermination issue? hink I just answered my own question.... ..:-) I need to make sure he looks helpless as possible which doesn't set well with me but I know it's part of e game we have to play. ry H. ----Original Message----- om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:35 am bject: Re: ssi re you his payee? ___________ _________ _________ _ m: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:27:49 AM ject: Re: ssi es, Sherri, you are such a god send to this list for providing this information o us. nk you! y H. If I were open a checking account for 's SSI funds to be deposited into he write checks for partial payments toward utility bills? Or say the cable /or internet bills? ---Original Message----- m: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@sbcglobal . net> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:07 am ject: Re: ssi Sherri, my son gets SSDI. I just have the money direct deposited to my unt. He is not even on the account. It has been this way since he turned out 10 years ago. Are the rules for SSDI different? I am the payee. I am ppy to hear you can get the answers for us. Every time I call Social rity it takes forever to get an answer and I get different answers every .. I just say oh well, I will keep doing what I am doing and if they don't it, they will let me know. Thanks Sherri. ley On Tue, 3/2/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: m: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ect: Re: ssi PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 1:55 PM l of the information I post is from either: echnical expert at a Social Security office ial Security's Procedure Operating Manual strict Manager at a Social Security office d to resort to the top as I would always get different answers each time I e with someone from Social Security. This was so frustrating to me that I ave relationships with people who can show me where answers actually come so I believe these sources to be reliable.Also, from working in the nches " for over 30 years, I have seen many things and I always suggest the of least resistance. e this helps. _________ _________ _________ __ : Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Fri, February 26, 2010 7:10:42 PM ect: Re: ssi t is way different info than they gave me On Fri, 2/26/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: m: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ect: Re: ssi PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Friday, February 26, 2010, 7:06 PM you are the payee, that means that Social Security has determined that your t child cannot handle their own funds. The checking account should be ed: your name, as representative payee for your child's name. It should be ed under HIS Social Security number and YOU should be the ONLY signer. If al Security sees that he is signing, it could spur a medical redetermination use he is now able to handle money. _________ _________ _________ __ m: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Thu, February 25, 2010 2:22:28 PM ject: Re: ssi anks, that's what I was thinking. --Original Message----- m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 2:02 pm ject: Re: ssi y said to open a checking account with 's name as a primary and me as the e. They also said it would be ok with them if it had s name first and as a co signature. Our credit union requires a savings account along with hecking acct. cia On Thu, 2/25/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> e: m: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ect: Re: ssi PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM ve another quick question. ost of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited ? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm ming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking unt when he starts transition in the fall. nks, y H. --Original Message----- m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 10:14 am ject: Re: ssi ary, t to let you know that was approved finally. When it comes to your turn is just know one thing....patience. ..of course we have learned that ady. I filed and refiled and then more papers,,,then a paper to call n,,,but that was the good news....approved. I realized that the girl that elping me was just doing her job so I was always cheerful. She told me she eciated that. Good luck in May. cia On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> e: m: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ect: Re: ssi PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:18 PM nk you, it's great to hear from someone who has just gone through the rience. My son rarely sees a doctor, about twice a year for the hiatrist and once a year for a regular checkup so I won't have a lot to say at regard :-) y still be picking your brain but I guess I can sit tight until 5/1. y H. --Original Message----- m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 3:44 pm ject: Re: ssi nks for asking these questions..I will tell you my experience. You are ect that nothing can be done until the month following the 18th birthday.... t of all we had to obtain a lawyer and get guardianship of our son as soon ssible after his 18th birthday. I recommend not contacting Social Security l May 1. I called in Dec to make the appt in Jan and asked them if that was was given the ok but when I had my phone interview, the interviewer ed to go back to the day I called for the appt. and use my husband and mine me. I said that I would cancel this appt and make another one, especially e I had asked ahead of time about the timing. She then dropped it and said ould date it for the day of the interview. When you call after May 1st, et up your phone interview, they will send you a packet for you to fill It contained papers that give them consent to contact whoever they needed as doctors and financial institutions to verify any information. It will include a website for you to fill out paperwork. Allow lots of time, cially if your son has had many doctors and appts. They want to know ytime he has seen the doctor, what doctor, including address and phone er and what the appt was for. This needs to be done before the phone rview. They will go over all of this in the phone interview also, in case ight have forgotton something. I would say it took me 2 hours to fill out ork online, and did not have many medical problems and the phone rview took another hour. You have time to get all this stuff together re then. My interviewer said she would send it in that day via the internet t could take anywhere from 1 to 4 months to get an answer. She did mail me y of what was sent in. Go over it carefully because I found errors and ed them back to correct them. All ll it was pretty painless and I am excited for my son to be able to get things for himself that he may not have been to otherwise. Good luck and I this helps. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me. cia On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> e: m: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ect: Re: ssi PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:00 PM arcia: y, my questions are, if turns 18 on 4/20 I shouldn't do anything ication wise to SSI until May 1st? o, is there preliminary paperwork or appointments I should set up prior to date? Are there certain forms that I need to print off and fill out? That octor needs to fill out prior to a schedule appointment or phone call after st? Most of what I've read online indicates that after the in person or e interview takes place and I sign consents to release information they act those who need to supply needed information directly. nks, y --Original Message----- m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm ject: ssi shinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you act me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email cia n-text portions of this message have been removed] --------- --------- --------- ------ oo! Groups Links ividual Email | Traditional p://docs. / info/terms/ n-text portions of this message have been removed] n-text portions of this message have been removed] --------- --------- --------- ------ oo! Groups Links ividual Email | Traditional p://docs. / info/terms/ n-text portions of this message have been removed] n-text portions of this message have been removed] --------- --------- --------- ------ oo! 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 It's all so crazy and should not have to be made this difficult should it? Okay, that is what I will do! Thanks again for your help! Re: ssi Most transition and post high school programs contradict SSI. (I as a parent ontradict SSI - I want my child to learn and do what he is able) hile we are trying to have our adult child learn self sufficient skills, SSI tates that they provide benefits to individuals who are permanently and totally isabled. If our child has developmental disabilties and Springfield states that hey need a payee, then a payee is assigned because SSI has reviewed the medical ecords and has determined that they cannot handle their own funds. BUT WE WANT o teach them to do so.........URGH!!!! I would set up a joint account for the school issues. If SSI has questions, I ould explain that the school and his parent (joint signer) is helping him with t. Unfortunately, in my experience, I have seen SSI having very rigid rules. ortunately, I have seen this work with few difficulties. ________________________________ rom: " sunshinebeaches3@... " <sunshinebeaches3@...> o: IPADDUnite ent: Wed, March 3, 2010 9:27:41 AM ubject: Re: ssi Hi Sherri, well #3 contradicts what they will be teaching in transition this all. They would like to have a checking account set up that he can use to ay for things like his YMCA weekly fee ($10.00) and they will be teaching him o write his own checks, use a debit card, etc. They said most parents only keep 100 in the account at a time. o if SSI finds out about this account which I'm sure over time they will this ould show his independence in ability to handle money? hanks, ary -----Original Message----- rom: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> o: IPADDUnite@gro ups.com ent: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 9:58 am ubject: Re: ssi Not exactly. en Social Security makes a decision, they actually make 3 decisions: do the medical records support disability? what is the date of onset of the disability? can the applicant handle their own funds or do they need a payee? f a person is assigned a payee, that is because a determination was made in ringfield that the applicant could not handle their own funds. That is why the yee should be the only signer on the payee bank account. If the applicant gns checks, it may be construed by Social Security that the applicant is NOW le to handle their own funds; maybe the disabling condition is getting better; is may spur a medical review. ope this helps. herri ____________ _________ _________ __ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:43:35 AM bject: Re: ssi I haven't set anything up yet, if I'm his payee then I have to write the checks, orrect? and if I'm not the payee then there could be a redetermination issue? hink I just answered my own question.... ..:-) I need to make sure he looks helpless as possible which doesn't set well with me but I know it's part of e game we have to play. ry H. ----Original Message----- om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:35 am bject: Re: ssi re you his payee? ___________ _________ _________ _ m: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Tue, March 2, 2010 8:27:49 AM ject: Re: ssi es, Sherri, you are such a god send to this list for providing this information o us. nk you! y H. If I were open a checking account for 's SSI funds to be deposited into he write checks for partial payments toward utility bills? Or say the cable /or internet bills? ---Original Message----- m: Shirley Linden <slpanda2@sbcglobal . net> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Tue, Mar 2, 2010 8:07 am ject: Re: ssi Sherri, my son gets SSDI. I just have the money direct deposited to my unt. He is not even on the account. It has been this way since he turned out 10 years ago. Are the rules for SSDI different? I am the payee. I am ppy to hear you can get the answers for us. Every time I call Social rity it takes forever to get an answer and I get different answers every .. I just say oh well, I will keep doing what I am doing and if they don't it, they will let me know. Thanks Sherri. ley On Tue, 3/2/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: m: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ect: Re: ssi PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 1:55 PM l of the information I post is from either: echnical expert at a Social Security office ial Security's Procedure Operating Manual strict Manager at a Social Security office d to resort to the top as I would always get different answers each time I e with someone from Social Security. This was so frustrating to me that I ave relationships with people who can show me where answers actually come so I believe these sources to be reliable.Also, from working in the nches " for over 30 years, I have seen many things and I always suggest the of least resistance. e this helps. _________ _________ _________ __ : Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Fri, February 26, 2010 7:10:42 PM ect: Re: ssi t is way different info than they gave me On Fri, 2/26/10, Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> wrote: m: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ect: Re: ssi PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Friday, February 26, 2010, 7:06 PM you are the payee, that means that Social Security has determined that your t child cannot handle their own funds. The checking account should be ed: your name, as representative payee for your child's name. It should be ed under HIS Social Security number and YOU should be the ONLY signer. If al Security sees that he is signing, it could spur a medical redetermination use he is now able to handle money. _________ _________ _________ __ m: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Thu, February 25, 2010 2:22:28 PM ject: Re: ssi anks, that's what I was thinking. --Original Message----- m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 2:02 pm ject: Re: ssi y said to open a checking account with 's name as a primary and me as the e. They also said it would be ok with them if it had s name first and as a co signature. Our credit union requires a savings account along with hecking acct. cia On Thu, 2/25/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> e: m: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ect: Re: ssi PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM ve another quick question. ost of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited ? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm ming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking unt when he starts transition in the fall. nks, y H. --Original Message----- m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 10:14 am ject: Re: ssi ary, t to let you know that was approved finally. When it comes to your turn is just know one thing....patience. ..of course we have learned that ady. I filed and refiled and then more papers,,,then a paper to call n,,,but that was the good news....approved. I realized that the girl that elping me was just doing her job so I was always cheerful. She told me she eciated that. Good luck in May. cia On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> e: m: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ect: Re: ssi PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:18 PM nk you, it's great to hear from someone who has just gone through the rience. My son rarely sees a doctor, about twice a year for the hiatrist and once a year for a regular checkup so I won't have a lot to say at regard :-) y still be picking your brain but I guess I can sit tight until 5/1. y H. --Original Message----- m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 3:44 pm ject: Re: ssi nks for asking these questions..I will tell you my experience. You are ect that nothing can be done until the month following the 18th birthday.... t of all we had to obtain a lawyer and get guardianship of our son as soon ssible after his 18th birthday. I recommend not contacting Social Security l May 1. I called in Dec to make the appt in Jan and asked them if that was was given the ok but when I had my phone interview, the interviewer ed to go back to the day I called for the appt. and use my husband and mine me. I said that I would cancel this appt and make another one, especially e I had asked ahead of time about the timing. She then dropped it and said ould date it for the day of the interview. When you call after May 1st, et up your phone interview, they will send you a packet for you to fill It contained papers that give them consent to contact whoever they needed as doctors and financial institutions to verify any information. It will include a website for you to fill out paperwork. Allow lots of time, cially if your son has had many doctors and appts. They want to know ytime he has seen the doctor, what doctor, including address and phone er and what the appt was for. This needs to be done before the phone rview. They will go over all of this in the phone interview also, in case ight have forgotton something. I would say it took me 2 hours to fill out ork online, and did not have many medical problems and the phone rview took another hour. You have time to get all this stuff together re then. My interviewer said she would send it in that day via the internet t could take anywhere from 1 to 4 months to get an answer. She did mail me y of what was sent in. Go over it carefully because I found errors and ed them back to correct them. All ll it was pretty painless and I am excited for my son to be able to get things for himself that he may not have been to otherwise. Good luck and I this helps. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me. cia On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> e: m: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ect: Re: ssi PADDUnite@gro ups.com : Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:00 PM arcia: y, my questions are, if turns 18 on 4/20 I shouldn't do anything ication wise to SSI until May 1st? o, is there preliminary paperwork or appointments I should set up prior to date? Are there certain forms that I need to print off and fill out? That octor needs to fill out prior to a schedule appointment or phone call after st? Most of what I've read online indicates that after the in person or e interview takes place and I sign consents to release information they act those who need to supply needed information directly. nks, y --Original Message----- m: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> IPADDUnite@gro ups.com t: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm ject: ssi shinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you act me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email cia n-text portions of this message have been removed] --------- --------- --------- ------ oo! Groups Links ividual Email | Traditional p://docs. / info/terms/ n-text portions of this message have been removed] n-text portions of this message have been removed] --------- --------- --------- ------ oo! Groups Links ividual Email | Traditional p://docs. / info/terms/ n-text portions of this message have been removed] n-text portions of this message have been removed] --------- --------- --------- ------ oo! 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 I have my son write checks at times. I have to write everything down and he can copy it onto the check. He would never be able to write one on his own. I do it just so he feels he can do things. I am sure just because your child can write a check doesn't mean they do not need a payee or that they are not totally disabled, right? I have Home Based Services and they want you to work with my child and teach them to be independent, I know that will never be the case with my son, but I do what they want and let them pay me to do that. So many rules and so many different answers.........URGH is right! Shirley om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Friday, February 26, 2010, 7:06 PM f you are the payee, that means that Social Security has determined that your lt child cannot handle their own funds. The checking account should be led: your name, as representative payee for your child's name. It should be ned under HIS Social Security number and YOU should be the ONLY signer. If ial Security sees that he is signing, it could spur a medical redetermination ause he is now able to handle money. __________ _________ _________ __ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, February 25, 2010 2:22:28 PM bject: Re: ssi hanks, that's what I was thinking. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 2:02 pm bject: Re: ssi ey said to open a checking account with 's name as a primary and me as the ee. They also said it would be ok with them if it had s name first and e as a co signature. Our credit union requires a savings account along with checking acct. rcia - On Thu, 2/25/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM ave another quick question. most of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited o? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm uming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking ount when he starts transition in the fall. anks, ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 10:14 am bject: Re: ssi , st to let you know that was approved finally. When it comes to your turn his just know one thing....patience. ..of course we have learned that eady. I filed and refiled and then more papers,,,then a paper to call in,,,but that was the good news....approved. I realized that the girl that helping me was just doing her job so I was always cheerful. She told me she reciated that. Good luck in May. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:18 PM ank you, it's great to hear from someone who has just gone through the erience. My son rarely sees a doctor, about twice a year for the chiatrist and once a year for a regular checkup so I won't have a lot to say hat regard :-) ay still be picking your brain but I guess I can sit tight until 5/1. ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 3:44 pm bject: Re: ssi anks for asking these questions..I will tell you my experience. You are rect that nothing can be done until the month following the 18th birthday.... st of all we had to obtain a lawyer and get guardianship of our son as soon ossible after his 18th birthday. I recommend not contacting Social Security il May 1. I called in Dec to make the appt in Jan and asked them if that was I was given the ok but when I had my phone interview, the interviewer ted to go back to the day I called for the appt. and use my husband and mine ome. I said that I would cancel this appt and make another one, especially ce I had asked ahead of time about the timing. She then dropped it and said would date it for the day of the interview. When you call after May 1st, set up your phone interview, they will send you a packet for you to fill .. It contained papers that give them consent to contact whoever they needed s r as doctors and financial institutions to verify any information. It will o include a website for you to fill out paperwork. Allow lots of time, ecially if your son has had many doctors and appts. They want to know rytime he has seen the doctor, what doctor, including address and phone ber and what the appt was for. This needs to be done before the phone erview. They will go over all of this in the phone interview also, in case might have forgotton something. I would say it took me 2 hours to fill out work online, and did not have many medical problems and the phone erview took another hour. You have time to get all this stuff together ore then. My interviewer said she would send it in that day via the internet it could take anywhere from 1 to 4 months to get an answer. She did mail me py of what was sent in. Go over it carefully because I found errors and led them back to correct them. All all it was pretty painless and I am excited for my son to be able to get e things for himself that he may not have been to otherwise. Good luck and I e this helps. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:00 PM Marcia: ay, my questions are, if turns 18 on 4/20 I shouldn't do anything lication wise to SSI until May 1st? so, is there preliminary paperwork or appointments I should set up prior to s date? Are there certain forms that I need to print off and fill out? That doctor needs to fill out prior to a schedule appointment or phone call after 1st? Most of what I've read online indicates that after the in person or ne interview takes place and I sign consents to release information they tact those who need to supply needed information directly. anks, ry ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm bject: ssi nshinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you tact me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email rcia on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! Groups Links dividual Email | Traditional tp://docs. / info/terms/ on-text portions of this message have been removed] on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 I have my son write checks at times. I have to write everything down and he can copy it onto the check. He would never be able to write one on his own. I do it just so he feels he can do things. I am sure just because your child can write a check doesn't mean they do not need a payee or that they are not totally disabled, right? I have Home Based Services and they want you to work with my child and teach them to be independent, I know that will never be the case with my son, but I do what they want and let them pay me to do that. So many rules and so many different answers.........URGH is right! Shirley om: Sherri Schneider <benefithelpss> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Friday, February 26, 2010, 7:06 PM f you are the payee, that means that Social Security has determined that your lt child cannot handle their own funds. The checking account should be led: your name, as representative payee for your child's name. It should be ned under HIS Social Security number and YOU should be the ONLY signer. If ial Security sees that he is signing, it could spur a medical redetermination ause he is now able to handle money. __________ _________ _________ __ om: " sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com " <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, February 25, 2010 2:22:28 PM bject: Re: ssi hanks, that's what I was thinking. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Thu, Feb 25, 2010 2:02 pm bject: Re: ssi ey said to open a checking account with 's name as a primary and me as the ee. They also said it would be ok with them if it had s name first and e as a co signature. Our credit union requires a savings account along with checking acct. rcia - On Thu, 2/25/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Thursday, February 25, 2010, 10:37 AM ave another quick question. most of you open up checking or savings accounts to have this money deposited o? currently has a passbook account which also has my name on it, I'm uming I should open something new? He'll also be opening up a small checking ount when he starts transition in the fall. anks, ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 10:14 am bject: Re: ssi , st to let you know that was approved finally. When it comes to your turn his just know one thing....patience. ..of course we have learned that eady. I filed and refiled and then more papers,,,then a paper to call in,,,but that was the good news....approved. I realized that the girl that helping me was just doing her job so I was always cheerful. She told me she reciated that. Good luck in May. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:18 PM ank you, it's great to hear from someone who has just gone through the erience. My son rarely sees a doctor, about twice a year for the chiatrist and once a year for a regular checkup so I won't have a lot to say hat regard :-) ay still be picking your brain but I guess I can sit tight until 5/1. ry H. ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 3:44 pm bject: Re: ssi anks for asking these questions..I will tell you my experience. You are rect that nothing can be done until the month following the 18th birthday.... st of all we had to obtain a lawyer and get guardianship of our son as soon ossible after his 18th birthday. I recommend not contacting Social Security il May 1. I called in Dec to make the appt in Jan and asked them if that was I was given the ok but when I had my phone interview, the interviewer ted to go back to the day I called for the appt. and use my husband and mine ome. I said that I would cancel this appt and make another one, especially ce I had asked ahead of time about the timing. She then dropped it and said would date it for the day of the interview. When you call after May 1st, set up your phone interview, they will send you a packet for you to fill .. It contained papers that give them consent to contact whoever they needed s r as doctors and financial institutions to verify any information. It will o include a website for you to fill out paperwork. Allow lots of time, ecially if your son has had many doctors and appts. They want to know rytime he has seen the doctor, what doctor, including address and phone ber and what the appt was for. This needs to be done before the phone erview. They will go over all of this in the phone interview also, in case might have forgotton something. I would say it took me 2 hours to fill out work online, and did not have many medical problems and the phone erview took another hour. You have time to get all this stuff together ore then. My interviewer said she would send it in that day via the internet it could take anywhere from 1 to 4 months to get an answer. She did mail me py of what was sent in. Go over it carefully because I found errors and led them back to correct them. All all it was pretty painless and I am excited for my son to be able to get e things for himself that he may not have been to otherwise. Good luck and I e this helps. If you have anymore questions please feel free to contact me. rcia - On Wed, 1/20/10, sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> te: om: sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com <sunshinebeaches3@ aol.com> ject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite@gro ups.com e: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:00 PM Marcia: ay, my questions are, if turns 18 on 4/20 I shouldn't do anything lication wise to SSI until May 1st? so, is there preliminary paperwork or appointments I should set up prior to s date? Are there certain forms that I need to print off and fill out? That doctor needs to fill out prior to a schedule appointment or phone call after 1st? Most of what I've read online indicates that after the in person or ne interview takes place and I sign consents to release information they tact those who need to supply needed information directly. anks, ry ---Original Message----- om: Marcia Smetanko <m_smetanko@ . com> : IPADDUnite@gro ups.com nt: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 2:45 pm bject: ssi nshinebeaches3@ aol.com.. ....I will be glad to answer your questions if you tact me thru this site.....I am cautious about personal email rcia on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! Groups Links dividual Email | Traditional tp://docs. / info/terms/ on-text portions of this message have been removed] on-text portions of this message have been removed] ---------- --------- --------- ------ hoo! 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Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Talk to your SSI specialist at your local Social Security Office. Most folks at Social security are like deer in headlights when they hear SSI. Medicaid is the sleeping giant you need to be more concerned about. 10 days or more in a hospital triggers loss of a Medicaid bed in certain facilities. Humbly grateful to be your companion on the journey... Gordon P. Stiefel Phone: 708 246 5151 Fax: 708 246 9144 " All great change in America begins at the dinner table " , Reagan. " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16). Rather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! " National Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of II .. From: mysticpatricia@... <mysticpatricia@...> Subject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 12:00 AM  Hello Sherri, This question may be helpful to others, so I'm posting to the group. How do hospital stays affect SSI benefits? Are they considered a change in " living arrangement " if the stay is less than a month, or if there are multiple stays within a period of time? I haven't been able to get a consistent answer from my local SS office. Who would I report them to? Many thanks, W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Talk to your SSI specialist at your local Social Security Office. Most folks at Social security are like deer in headlights when they hear SSI. Medicaid is the sleeping giant you need to be more concerned about. 10 days or more in a hospital triggers loss of a Medicaid bed in certain facilities. Humbly grateful to be your companion on the journey... Gordon P. Stiefel Phone: 708 246 5151 Fax: 708 246 9144 " All great change in America begins at the dinner table " , Reagan. " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16). Rather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! " National Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of II .. From: mysticpatricia@... <mysticpatricia@...> Subject: Re: ssi IPADDUnite Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 12:00 AM  Hello Sherri, This question may be helpful to others, so I'm posting to the group. How do hospital stays affect SSI benefits? Are they considered a change in " living arrangement " if the stay is less than a month, or if there are multiple stays within a period of time? I haven't been able to get a consistent answer from my local SS office. Who would I report them to? Many thanks, W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 While acknowledging that there is a conflict between what we are attempting to teach our children in transition and beyond, I don't think there is a major conflict in declaring that we, as guardians, need to be representative payees. Most of our children have emerging skills, but are, in no way, completely independent in some of those things, such as money management. It is reasonable, I think, to continue to hone those skills while still providing additional support in those areas. Many individuals could manage a small checking account of say $50 but might have a much harder time with larger sums. To be honest, I don't think social security is checking to see if there are small joint accounts, as long as there is no more than $2,000 in your child's name, at any time... Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 While acknowledging that there is a conflict between what we are attempting to teach our children in transition and beyond, I don't think there is a major conflict in declaring that we, as guardians, need to be representative payees. Most of our children have emerging skills, but are, in no way, completely independent in some of those things, such as money management. It is reasonable, I think, to continue to hone those skills while still providing additional support in those areas. Many individuals could manage a small checking account of say $50 but might have a much harder time with larger sums. To be honest, I don't think social security is checking to see if there are small joint accounts, as long as there is no more than $2,000 in your child's name, at any time... Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 one would only hope they have better things to do than bother checking all of this but who knows :-) H. Re: ssi While acknowledging that there is a conflict between what we are attempting to each our children in transition and beyond, I don't think there is a major onflict in declaring that we, as guardians, need to be representative payees. ost of our children have emerging skills, but are, in no way, completely ndependent in some of those things, such as money management. It is easonable, I think, to continue to hone those skills while still providing dditional support in those areas. Many individuals could manage a small hecking account of say $50 but might have a much harder time with larger sums. o be honest, I don't think social security is checking to see if there are mall joint accounts, as long as there is no more than $2,000 in your child's ame, at any time... llen llen Garber Bronfeld gskb@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 one would only hope they have better things to do than bother checking all of this but who knows :-) H. Re: ssi While acknowledging that there is a conflict between what we are attempting to each our children in transition and beyond, I don't think there is a major onflict in declaring that we, as guardians, need to be representative payees. ost of our children have emerging skills, but are, in no way, completely ndependent in some of those things, such as money management. It is easonable, I think, to continue to hone those skills while still providing dditional support in those areas. Many individuals could manage a small hecking account of say $50 but might have a much harder time with larger sums. o be honest, I don't think social security is checking to see if there are mall joint accounts, as long as there is no more than $2,000 in your child's ame, at any time... llen llen Garber Bronfeld gskb@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Thank you, Sherri, for your clear and concise answer! Blessings, W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Thank you, Sherri, for your clear and concise answer! Blessings, W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Sorry I can't answer your questions , but I would say this is HUGE & GOOD news for you that no appeal was needed, etc.  Glad this was relatively painless for you! Donna SSI  Hi everyone, so I have some questions for the group. received a check today for SSI in the amount of 449.34, so obviously the lesser amount because I couldn't say he paid rent.......now, how do I go about documenting that he's paying rent to get the full amount? The woman at SS said she would call me when the approval went through to set up a bank account, I guess I'm not getting that call or well this check is just dated 6/14/10. I'm sure she can answer all of my questions on how to get the direct deposit set up, etc. So, I guess we are approved 5 weeks after applying! I guess I'm excited?? H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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