Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 And we want to cry right along with you, Liz. I imagine this only increases the weight I know you must feel on your shoulders -- that said, you are SUCH a good mom, checking the snack box/bed, straightening the sock drawer. And can I just say? Geez Louise! A moldy twinkie? Who knew such a thing was even possible with a twinkie?????? I thought they had so many chemicals in them they were indestructible. (trying to make you smile there). Makes you wonder how old that poor thing was to have gotten moldy. What a world!!! Hope today is a better day. Good luck with that supervisor. Hugs, Laurie We've moved from annoying to disgusting As some of you know, there have been some little things at my son's facility that have been annoying. Tonight, it bordered on disgusting. I was helping him put his snacks away in his snack box. I noticed that he had some crackers in there that were kind of stale, so I took them out. I decided to see what else he had in there that he might not like. I found a MOLDY Twinkie. I showed one of the staff members(that I like) & she told me that sometimes the residents put things in other people's snack boxes.... but that they(the staff) don't usually check the boxes; but that they do check to see what snack is eating. does sometimes eat Twinkies, but hasn't lately. I go through his snack box on occasion, but not often....UNTIL TONIGHT. Another thing I'm adding to the list. grrrr. (threw the twinkie, but I have witnesses) Then I went in his room to help him with his coat. I noticed the sheets on his bed were rather disgusting looking. (Took those off, changed them & brought it home with me....so that it can go back tomorrow, so the " supervisor " can see it. Straightened out his sock drawer again, too, so he can find his socks. At least that was only annoying & not disgusting. Some nights I just want to cry. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 And we want to cry right along with you, Liz. I imagine this only increases the weight I know you must feel on your shoulders -- that said, you are SUCH a good mom, checking the snack box/bed, straightening the sock drawer. And can I just say? Geez Louise! A moldy twinkie? Who knew such a thing was even possible with a twinkie?????? I thought they had so many chemicals in them they were indestructible. (trying to make you smile there). Makes you wonder how old that poor thing was to have gotten moldy. What a world!!! Hope today is a better day. Good luck with that supervisor. Hugs, Laurie We've moved from annoying to disgusting As some of you know, there have been some little things at my son's facility that have been annoying. Tonight, it bordered on disgusting. I was helping him put his snacks away in his snack box. I noticed that he had some crackers in there that were kind of stale, so I took them out. I decided to see what else he had in there that he might not like. I found a MOLDY Twinkie. I showed one of the staff members(that I like) & she told me that sometimes the residents put things in other people's snack boxes.... but that they(the staff) don't usually check the boxes; but that they do check to see what snack is eating. does sometimes eat Twinkies, but hasn't lately. I go through his snack box on occasion, but not often....UNTIL TONIGHT. Another thing I'm adding to the list. grrrr. (threw the twinkie, but I have witnesses) Then I went in his room to help him with his coat. I noticed the sheets on his bed were rather disgusting looking. (Took those off, changed them & brought it home with me....so that it can go back tomorrow, so the " supervisor " can see it. Straightened out his sock drawer again, too, so he can find his socks. At least that was only annoying & not disgusting. Some nights I just want to cry. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Good morning Liz: If it will make you feel any better (it probably won't), my 25 year old who is still living at home, has many petrified, putrified and other unsavory items up in his room. In spite of the rest of my house being clean and unmoldy, his room should have a giant sign on the door that says condemned. I won't even try to describe the piles of clothes on the floor, but, suffice to say, his entire wardrobe (most of which doesn't fit him anymore since he has packed on the pounds in the past couple of years of depression), is scattered about on the floor. Even in my own home, I feel rather powerless to control everything...it is a startling revelation. Your partner in empathy and mold, Ellen By the way...I agree with Laurie...I didn't think Twinkies could ever mold! Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Good morning Liz: If it will make you feel any better (it probably won't), my 25 year old who is still living at home, has many petrified, putrified and other unsavory items up in his room. In spite of the rest of my house being clean and unmoldy, his room should have a giant sign on the door that says condemned. I won't even try to describe the piles of clothes on the floor, but, suffice to say, his entire wardrobe (most of which doesn't fit him anymore since he has packed on the pounds in the past couple of years of depression), is scattered about on the floor. Even in my own home, I feel rather powerless to control everything...it is a startling revelation. Your partner in empathy and mold, Ellen By the way...I agree with Laurie...I didn't think Twinkies could ever mold! Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 My schizophrenic brother who lives in an assisted living facility in Dallas, TX says that everyone steals his things. When I visited him in October I found all the missing " things " in his closet. But you're right, the staff doesn't usually have a clue what goes on and I consider them to be a good staff. When I go to see him he is unkempt and slovenly looking. No Twinkie's though. I always thought the white stuff in the center was post dated past molding. From: Liz <dljar58@...> Subject: We've moved from annoying to disgusting IPADDUnite Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 5:35 AM  As some of you know, there have been some little things at my son's facility that have been annoying. Tonight, it bordered on disgusting. I was helping him put his snacks away in his snack box. I noticed that he had some crackers in there that were kind of stale, so I took them out. I decided to see what else he had in there that he might not like. I found a MOLDY Twinkie. I showed one of the staff members(that I like) & she told me that sometimes the residents put things in other people's snack boxes.... but that they(the staff) don't usually check the boxes; but that they do check to see what snack is eating. does sometimes eat Twinkies, but hasn't lately. I go through his snack box on occasion, but not often....UNTIL TONIGHT. Another thing I'm adding to the list. grrrr. (threw the twinkie, but I have witnesses) Then I went in his room to help him with his coat. I noticed the sheets on his bed were rather disgusting looking. (Took those off, changed them & brought it home with me....so that it can go back tomorrow, so the " supervisor " can see it. Straightened out his sock drawer again, too, so he can find his socks. At least that was only annoying & not disgusting. Some nights I just want to cry. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 My schizophrenic brother who lives in an assisted living facility in Dallas, TX says that everyone steals his things. When I visited him in October I found all the missing " things " in his closet. But you're right, the staff doesn't usually have a clue what goes on and I consider them to be a good staff. When I go to see him he is unkempt and slovenly looking. No Twinkie's though. I always thought the white stuff in the center was post dated past molding. From: Liz <dljar58@...> Subject: We've moved from annoying to disgusting IPADDUnite Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 5:35 AM  As some of you know, there have been some little things at my son's facility that have been annoying. Tonight, it bordered on disgusting. I was helping him put his snacks away in his snack box. I noticed that he had some crackers in there that were kind of stale, so I took them out. I decided to see what else he had in there that he might not like. I found a MOLDY Twinkie. I showed one of the staff members(that I like) & she told me that sometimes the residents put things in other people's snack boxes.... but that they(the staff) don't usually check the boxes; but that they do check to see what snack is eating. does sometimes eat Twinkies, but hasn't lately. I go through his snack box on occasion, but not often....UNTIL TONIGHT. Another thing I'm adding to the list. grrrr. (threw the twinkie, but I have witnesses) Then I went in his room to help him with his coat. I noticed the sheets on his bed were rather disgusting looking. (Took those off, changed them & brought it home with me....so that it can go back tomorrow, so the " supervisor " can see it. Straightened out his sock drawer again, too, so he can find his socks. At least that was only annoying & not disgusting. Some nights I just want to cry. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Wait a minute...  May I humbly suggest it has very little to do with disabilities, but rather (gasp) it is a guy control thing. relunctantly, I have to suggest some guys want to be in control of their stuff. Stuff being anything including but not limited to left over pb & j 99% eaten sandwiches. I agree, too, that twinkies NEVER age or grow mold!  It is best described as the way gals like chocolate for comfort, some guys are comforted by a messy room -- look at Madison of The Odd Couple - PLUS its his mess. He owns it.  This may well be amplified by disabilities - but I doubt it as my 22 year old male child's room here at home may warrant a carbon copy of the condemned sign. BUT we have always said it is HIS room and he trusts that fact. When he is home from school, there is the occasional shifting of stuff but not much more...  G     Humbly grateful to be your companion on the journey... Gordon P. Stiefel Phone: 708 246 5151 Fax: 708 246 9144 " All great change in America begins at the dinner table " , Reagan. " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16). Rather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! " National Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of II .. From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...> Subject: Re: We've moved from annoying to disgusting IPADDUnite Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 8:03 AM  Good morning Liz: If it will make you feel any better (it probably won't), my 25 year old who is still living at home, has many petrified, putrified and other unsavory items up in his room. In spite of the rest of my house being clean and unmoldy, his room should have a giant sign on the door that says condemned. I won't even try to describe the piles of clothes on the floor, but, suffice to say, his entire wardrobe (most of which doesn't fit him anymore since he has packed on the pounds in the past couple of years of depression), is scattered about on the floor. Even in my own home, I feel rather powerless to control everything.. .it is a startling revelation. Your partner in empathy and mold, Ellen By the way...I agree with Laurie...I didn't think Twinkies could ever mold! Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Wait a minute...  May I humbly suggest it has very little to do with disabilities, but rather (gasp) it is a guy control thing. relunctantly, I have to suggest some guys want to be in control of their stuff. Stuff being anything including but not limited to left over pb & j 99% eaten sandwiches. I agree, too, that twinkies NEVER age or grow mold!  It is best described as the way gals like chocolate for comfort, some guys are comforted by a messy room -- look at Madison of The Odd Couple - PLUS its his mess. He owns it.  This may well be amplified by disabilities - but I doubt it as my 22 year old male child's room here at home may warrant a carbon copy of the condemned sign. BUT we have always said it is HIS room and he trusts that fact. When he is home from school, there is the occasional shifting of stuff but not much more...  G     Humbly grateful to be your companion on the journey... Gordon P. Stiefel Phone: 708 246 5151 Fax: 708 246 9144 " All great change in America begins at the dinner table " , Reagan. " Now more than ever, in a world all too often deprived of light and the courage of noble ideals, it is not the time to be ashamed of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1: 16). Rather, it is time to preach it from the rooftops (cf. Mt 10: 27)! " National Meeting of Young Catholics of Switzerland (2004), Address of II .. From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...> Subject: Re: We've moved from annoying to disgusting IPADDUnite Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 8:03 AM  Good morning Liz: If it will make you feel any better (it probably won't), my 25 year old who is still living at home, has many petrified, putrified and other unsavory items up in his room. In spite of the rest of my house being clean and unmoldy, his room should have a giant sign on the door that says condemned. I won't even try to describe the piles of clothes on the floor, but, suffice to say, his entire wardrobe (most of which doesn't fit him anymore since he has packed on the pounds in the past couple of years of depression), is scattered about on the floor. Even in my own home, I feel rather powerless to control everything.. .it is a startling revelation. Your partner in empathy and mold, Ellen By the way...I agree with Laurie...I didn't think Twinkies could ever mold! Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Twinkee don't get mold, they get solid hard after 6 months. I done researach on twinkee before and I have seen myth behind it. Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Twinkee don't get mold, they get solid hard after 6 months. I done researach on twinkee before and I have seen myth behind it. Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Could be you are right, Gordon, that Jordan's mega-messy room is all about control. IT does make sense. The reason I do not clean or straighten my son's room is exactly what you said...I respect his right to his own space...I will, however draw the line if something comes crawling out of his room, towards mine! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (5) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 3 a.. New Files 1 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Could be you are right, Gordon, that Jordan's mega-messy room is all about control. IT does make sense. The reason I do not clean or straighten my son's room is exactly what you said...I respect his right to his own space...I will, however draw the line if something comes crawling out of his room, towards mine! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (5) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 3 a.. New Files 1 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Thanks, Pyle...I have had a petrified twinkie in my own pantry...never moldy, just solid as a rock! Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Thanks, Pyle...I have had a petrified twinkie in my own pantry...never moldy, just solid as a rock! Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mom Power: Discover the community of moms doing more for their families, for the world and for each other Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 LOL. If I see anything crawling out of my kids room I would draw the line too. My younger son was always messy. Piles of clean and dirty clothes, papers, everything but food, all over his floor.  I draw the line at if you eat in your room make sure the plates, cups, empty bags, food garbage etc, gets to the kitchen. So I just closed his door and let him live like that if he wanted to. He has now bought a condo and moved out. Now my son with DS is much neater. HAS to put everything away everyday. Shirley From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...> Subject: Re: We've moved from annoying to disgusting IPADDUnite Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 5:21 PM  Could be you are right, Gordon, that Jordan's mega-messy room is all about control. IT does make sense. The reason I do not clean or straighten my son's room is exactly what you said...I respect his right to his own space...I will, however draw the line if something comes crawling out of his room, towards mine! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (5) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 3 a.. New Files 1 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 LOL. If I see anything crawling out of my kids room I would draw the line too. My younger son was always messy. Piles of clean and dirty clothes, papers, everything but food, all over his floor.  I draw the line at if you eat in your room make sure the plates, cups, empty bags, food garbage etc, gets to the kitchen. So I just closed his door and let him live like that if he wanted to. He has now bought a condo and moved out. Now my son with DS is much neater. HAS to put everything away everyday. Shirley From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...> Subject: Re: We've moved from annoying to disgusting IPADDUnite Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 5:21 PM  Could be you are right, Gordon, that Jordan's mega-messy room is all about control. IT does make sense. The reason I do not clean or straighten my son's room is exactly what you said...I respect his right to his own space...I will, however draw the line if something comes crawling out of his room, towards mine! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (5) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 3 a.. New Files 1 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 My son, Noah, with his autism and his little OCD-type behaviors always likes everything in it's proper place! Sometimes our children's " disabilities " are a good thing! Wish he could teach his big brother those skills! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 My son, Noah, with his autism and his little OCD-type behaviors always likes everything in it's proper place! Sometimes our children's " disabilities " are a good thing! Wish he could teach his big brother those skills! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 My daughter, the college student, knows that when she is away at school, her bedroom becomes the guest room and I WILL clean it to my satisfaction. So the more organized she leaves it, the more likely she is to come back to it the way she wants it. On the other hand, when we see her at school I laugh merrily at her room. where you can't see the floor. _____ From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On Behalf Of Shirley Linden Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:35 AM IPADDUnite Subject: Re: We've moved from annoying to disgusting LOL. If I see anything crawling out of my kids room I would draw the line too. My younger son was always messy. Piles of clean and dirty clothes, papers, everything but food, all over his floor. I draw the line at if you eat in your room make sure the plates, cups, empty bags, food garbage etc, gets to the kitchen. So I just closed his door and let him live like that if he wanted to. He has now bought a condo and moved out. Now my son with DS is much neater. HAS to put everything away everyday. Shirley From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskbsbcglobal (DOT) <mailto:egskb%40sbcglobal.net> net> Subject: Re: We've moved from annoying to disgusting IPADDUnite@gro <mailto:IPADDUnite%40> ups.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 5:21 PM Could be you are right, Gordon, that Jordan's mega-messy room is all about control. IT does make sense. The reason I do not clean or straighten my son's room is exactly what you said...I respect his right to his own space...I will, however draw the line if something comes crawling out of his room, towards mine! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (5) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 3 a.. New Files 1 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 My daughter, the college student, knows that when she is away at school, her bedroom becomes the guest room and I WILL clean it to my satisfaction. So the more organized she leaves it, the more likely she is to come back to it the way she wants it. On the other hand, when we see her at school I laugh merrily at her room. where you can't see the floor. _____ From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On Behalf Of Shirley Linden Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:35 AM IPADDUnite Subject: Re: We've moved from annoying to disgusting LOL. If I see anything crawling out of my kids room I would draw the line too. My younger son was always messy. Piles of clean and dirty clothes, papers, everything but food, all over his floor. I draw the line at if you eat in your room make sure the plates, cups, empty bags, food garbage etc, gets to the kitchen. So I just closed his door and let him live like that if he wanted to. He has now bought a condo and moved out. Now my son with DS is much neater. HAS to put everything away everyday. Shirley From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskbsbcglobal (DOT) <mailto:egskb%40sbcglobal.net> net> Subject: Re: We've moved from annoying to disgusting IPADDUnite@gro <mailto:IPADDUnite%40> ups.com Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 5:21 PM Could be you are right, Gordon, that Jordan's mega-messy room is all about control. IT does make sense. The reason I do not clean or straighten my son's room is exactly what you said...I respect his right to his own space...I will, however draw the line if something comes crawling out of his room, towards mine! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (5) Recent Activity: a.. New Members 3 a.. New Files 1 Visit Your Group Start a New Topic MARKETPLACE Going Green: Your resource for green living ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Parenting Zone: Your community resource for family and home Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I forgot what color the carpet is, in my son's room... Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 I forgot what color the carpet is, in my son's room... Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Okay, good, I'm not alone! LOL H. Re: We've moved from annoying to disgusting I forgot what color the carpet is, in my son's room... llen llen Garber Bronfeld gskb@... ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Okay, good, I'm not alone! LOL H. Re: We've moved from annoying to disgusting I forgot what color the carpet is, in my son's room... llen llen Garber Bronfeld gskb@... ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Don't think I'd wanna wait six months, but the Twinkie I pulled out of my son's snack box was DEFINETELY moldy. Not all of it, but almost 1/2. Pretty disgusting & not a fun thing for a guy who's blind to discover.... Glad he didn't eat it. Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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