Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 In a message dated 8/2/00 8:01:59 AM Central Daylight Time, smdevlin5@... writes: << My husband had surgery for a " lazy eye " when he was two. Is this the same thing? >> According to our vision trainer, strambismus and lazy eye are the same. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 << << My husband had surgery for a " lazy eye " when he was two. Is this the same thing? >> According to our vision trainer, strambismus and lazy eye are the same. >> I've generally heard amblyopia referred to as lazy eye. Your vision trainer is an optometrist, or something else? Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 okay, what does ambliopia have to do with mercury? my daughter has this. She also has tourettes. Let me guess, there is a connection....... Kathi Mom to Colten 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 << According to this FAQ, amblyopia is when vision fails to develop properly in one eye. It can be caused by strabismus, or misalignment of the eyes (crossed eyes). My husband's eye was definitely crossed (I've seen pictures). >> That's what I thought. Amblyopia = lazy eye Strabismus = eye turn. Eye turn can cause or be caused by lazy eye, but they are two separate conditions and the surgery is for the strabismus. As previously mentioned vision therapy is by far the preferred initial therapy for strabismus, especially if it is coupled with amblyopia. Patching for amblyopia is a REALLY bad idea, too. Andy Cutler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2000 Report Share Posted August 3, 2000 << okay, what does ambliopia have to do with mercury? my daughter has this. She also has tourettes. Let me guess, there is a connection....... >> Toxic kids have it a lot more than kids who aren't toxic. There are some characteristic other findings a behavioral optometrist would make - spelled out in the diagnosis section of my book <A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/noamalgam " >Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and Treatment</A> (ophthalmologists don't know how to do the proper tests). A lot of these have to do with difficulty coordinating use of the two eyes together which naturally leads to the brain ignoring the image from one of them so as to avoid having double vision. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2000 Report Share Posted August 4, 2000 In a message dated 8/3/00 2:57:07 PM Central Daylight Time, AndyCutler@... writes: << << << My husband had surgery for a " lazy eye " when he was two. Is this the same thing? >> According to our vision trainer, strambismus and lazy eye are the same. >> I've generally heard amblyopia referred to as lazy eye. >> Oops, my mistake. Strambismus is where one eye turns inward or outward. Amblyopia and lazy eye is where one eye is weaker or doesn't work as well as the other. Sorry, Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2000 Report Share Posted August 8, 2000 FYI -- I thought I'd pass what our neurodevelopmentalist (with NACD) said about amblyopia/strambismus. She sees alot more difficulty with visual function, more pronounced strambismuses, etc. when a child's immune system is off -- even if they don't have heavy metals toxicity. Given that the vestibular system is also involved and metals mess with sensory input and processing, it makes sense that mercury/metals could mess up the visual system in addition to the affect on the visual nerve already mentioned. Gaylen <<the term amblyopia has gone through a metamorphous over the years. It used to only be used with children who had a convergent stabismus (crossed eyes, not one that turns out) only after the brain had begun to supress the information to the brain and electively go blind in order not to see double. Nowadays, the term amblyopia can be used for an eye that has less acuity or muscle control than the other eye. so it can mean " lazy eye " , " wandering eye " , convergent or divergent strabismus, or just having 20/20 in one eye and 20/30 in another. Depending on who is talking the terms might be intertwined. The reason we stay away from both terms (amblyopia and lazy eye)is because they are not specific enough. We prefer to note exactly what kind of strabismus it is, convergent or divergent. Each would have a different exercise needed. Remember to that it only makes sense that in order for the eyes to be working well together, central and detail vision needs to also work well. There is also a connection between vestibular and ocular muscle control. So that is why we hit all of the applicable pieces: Muscle work out Central Vision Vestibular And also worthy of noting is general health. When the immune system is effected the muscle strength is also weaker. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2000 Report Share Posted August 8, 2000 interestingly.... I was tested to have BINOCULAR vision, lots of dyslexics have it too. ADD people have it at times. Test yourselves, this may not be scientific but kinda valid... Get a string with a bead on it, actually put two. Put one bead at the and of a say 16 inch string. Put the one bead at the end of the string as a perspective point. Then, put another bead, free floating on that string. Put the string on the end of your nose and have someone hold the end right in front of you. When you focus on the bead that is stable you see one bead, even the one closest to you...then take the other bead that is movable and move it closely towards your face. As you get closer, some people will begin to see TWO beads instead of one bead that is closest to your face. (it will make your child or yourself go crosseyed) This is a sign you have BINOCULAR vision. This often will result in problems with coordination (yes I am a spaz) and sometimes dyslexia. Try it and tell me if you see one bead (not counting the one at the end) or TWO? Kathy Re: [ ] Re: Mercury causes double vision, for which you should n... >FYI -- I thought I'd pass what our neurodevelopmentalist (with NACD) said >about amblyopia/strambismus. She sees alot more difficulty with visual >function, more pronounced strambismuses, etc. when a child's immune system is >off -- even if they don't have heavy metals toxicity. Given that the >vestibular system is also involved and metals mess with sensory input and >processing, it makes sense that mercury/metals could mess up the visual >system in addition to the affect on the visual nerve already mentioned. >Gaylen > ><<the term amblyopia has gone through a metamorphous over the years. >It used to only be used with children who had a convergent stabismus (crossed >eyes, not one that turns out) only after the brain had begun to supress the >information to the brain and electively go blind in order not to see double. > >Nowadays, the term amblyopia can be used for an eye that has less acuity or >muscle control than the other eye. so it can mean " lazy eye " , " wandering >eye " , convergent or divergent strabismus, or just having 20/20 in one eye and >20/30 in another. > >Depending on who is talking the terms might be intertwined. >The reason we stay away from both terms (amblyopia and lazy eye)is because >they are not specific enough. We prefer to note exactly what kind of >strabismus it is, convergent or divergent. Each would have a different >exercise needed. > >Remember to that it only makes sense that in order for the eyes to be working >well together, central and detail vision needs to also work well. > >There is also a connection between vestibular and ocular muscle control. > >So that is why we hit all of the applicable pieces: >Muscle work out >Central Vision >Vestibular > >And also worthy of noting is general health. When the immune system is >effected the muscle strength is also weaker. >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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