Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Thanks, . When I attend the Arc of Illinois Board meetings, one thing that has always impressed me is the support given to individuals with disabilities to be active participants, all of whom have made meaningful contributions. Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Re: Civil Disobedience. .. These very road blocks to making ourselves and our voices be publically visable is why they pray upon our families. They see us as unable to fight long term, and therefore not powerful, s this is why we are chosen to be screwed. We are an easy target I'm afraind. Diane S > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > Do we: > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > Ellen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Thanks, . When I attend the Arc of Illinois Board meetings, one thing that has always impressed me is the support given to individuals with disabilities to be active participants, all of whom have made meaningful contributions. Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Re: Civil Disobedience. .. These very road blocks to making ourselves and our voices be publically visable is why they pray upon our families. They see us as unable to fight long term, and therefore not powerful, s this is why we are chosen to be screwed. We are an easy target I'm afraind. Diane S > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > Do we: > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > Ellen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Ditto...I would be there but cannot organize it. By the way, Diane, I am a nurse, too...haven't worked in years, but used to work postpartum/perinatal...loved it! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Re: Civil Disobedience... I too will show up at a largely single rally. I think there should be just one, the capitol on a day when lawmakers are in session, preferably on a day they vote. And Ellen you are absolutely right 500 in attendance is not gonna do it. If there is anyone who feels they are able to orginize something of this magnitude I will be there!!!!!!! I wish it could be me, but I would rather someone who is sure they could se the planning all the way through, it would be great. I work full time outside of the home as well as with my son, as well as still have other children at home as well. I can't organize something of this magnitude, BUT with a fair amount of notice I will definately take the day off from work!!!!!! Fair notice for me is a few weeks notice as I work with patients and as the only nurse in my area, I don't like to cancel patients getting their possibly life saving biopsies for any reason, short of I physically can't get to work due to a big time illness- however I will schedule cases around my days off. So that is my time frame. I can promise I would be there. Any takers for organizing and choice of a strategic date? There may be some thing I could do to help if I were not the primary organizer. I do have a computer and late weekend nights. Diane S. > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Ditto...I would be there but cannot organize it. By the way, Diane, I am a nurse, too...haven't worked in years, but used to work postpartum/perinatal...loved it! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Re: Civil Disobedience... I too will show up at a largely single rally. I think there should be just one, the capitol on a day when lawmakers are in session, preferably on a day they vote. And Ellen you are absolutely right 500 in attendance is not gonna do it. If there is anyone who feels they are able to orginize something of this magnitude I will be there!!!!!!! I wish it could be me, but I would rather someone who is sure they could se the planning all the way through, it would be great. I work full time outside of the home as well as with my son, as well as still have other children at home as well. I can't organize something of this magnitude, BUT with a fair amount of notice I will definately take the day off from work!!!!!! Fair notice for me is a few weeks notice as I work with patients and as the only nurse in my area, I don't like to cancel patients getting their possibly life saving biopsies for any reason, short of I physically can't get to work due to a big time illness- however I will schedule cases around my days off. So that is my time frame. I can promise I would be there. Any takers for organizing and choice of a strategic date? There may be some thing I could do to help if I were not the primary organizer. I do have a computer and late weekend nights. Diane S. > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Sadly, a march of unity on an occasion like Disability awareness to me is the equivalent of the Gay Pride parade. The typical community will only see it as we want them to be aware that we exist...... It needs to be spelled out that we get screwed. People who don't ordinarilly care, don't want to even admit to others getting the short end of the stick, when it will cost them money, unless they HAVE to see it as a gross mistreatment like our kids were in concentration camps or something. Diane > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Sadly, a march of unity on an occasion like Disability awareness to me is the equivalent of the Gay Pride parade. The typical community will only see it as we want them to be aware that we exist...... It needs to be spelled out that we get screwed. People who don't ordinarilly care, don't want to even admit to others getting the short end of the stick, when it will cost them money, unless they HAVE to see it as a gross mistreatment like our kids were in concentration camps or something. Diane > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 We are marching in the Disability Pride Parade because we love to walk and we enjoy being downtown and it will be fun to take the train (remember, our kids ride free...)...it is not all that much of a statement for us...it is more of an outing... Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Re: Civil Disobedience... Sadly, a march of unity on an occasion like Disability awareness to me is the equivalent of the Gay Pride parade. The typical community will only see it as we want them to be aware that we exist...... It needs to be spelled out that we get screwed. People who don't ordinarilly care, don't want to even admit to others getting the short end of the stick, when it will cost them money, unless they HAVE to see it as a gross mistreatment like our kids were in concentration camps or something. Diane > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 We are marching in the Disability Pride Parade because we love to walk and we enjoy being downtown and it will be fun to take the train (remember, our kids ride free...)...it is not all that much of a statement for us...it is more of an outing... Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Re: Civil Disobedience... Sadly, a march of unity on an occasion like Disability awareness to me is the equivalent of the Gay Pride parade. The typical community will only see it as we want them to be aware that we exist...... It needs to be spelled out that we get screwed. People who don't ordinarilly care, don't want to even admit to others getting the short end of the stick, when it will cost them money, unless they HAVE to see it as a gross mistreatment like our kids were in concentration camps or something. Diane > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Ellen, I am also a nurse, and worked post-partum for 8 years. From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...> Subject: Re: Re: Civil Disobedience... IPADDUnite Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 5:57 PM Â Ditto...I would be there but cannot organize it. By the way, Diane, I am a nurse, too...haven' t worked in years, but used to work postpartum/perinata l...loved it! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net Re: Civil Disobedience. .. I too will show up at a largely single rally. I think there should be just one, the capitol on a day when lawmakers are in session, preferably on a day they vote. And Ellen you are absolutely right 500 in attendance is not gonna do it. If there is anyone who feels they are able to orginize something of this magnitude I will be there!!!!!!! I wish it could be me, but I would rather someone who is sure they could se the planning all the way through, it would be great. I work full time outside of the home as well as with my son, as well as still have other children at home as well. I can't organize something of this magnitude, BUT with a fair amount of notice I will definately take the day off from work!!!!!! Fair notice for me is a few weeks notice as I work with patients and as the only nurse in my area, I don't like to cancel patients getting their possibly life saving biopsies for any reason, short of I physically can't get to work due to a big time illness- however I will schedule cases around my days off. So that is my time frame. I can promise I would be there. Any takers for organizing and choice of a strategic date? There may be some thing I could do to help if I were not the primary organizer. I do have a computer and late weekend nights. Diane S. > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Ellen, I am also a nurse, and worked post-partum for 8 years. From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...> Subject: Re: Re: Civil Disobedience... IPADDUnite Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 5:57 PM Â Ditto...I would be there but cannot organize it. By the way, Diane, I am a nurse, too...haven' t worked in years, but used to work postpartum/perinata l...loved it! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net Re: Civil Disobedience. .. I too will show up at a largely single rally. I think there should be just one, the capitol on a day when lawmakers are in session, preferably on a day they vote. And Ellen you are absolutely right 500 in attendance is not gonna do it. If there is anyone who feels they are able to orginize something of this magnitude I will be there!!!!!!! I wish it could be me, but I would rather someone who is sure they could se the planning all the way through, it would be great. I work full time outside of the home as well as with my son, as well as still have other children at home as well. I can't organize something of this magnitude, BUT with a fair amount of notice I will definately take the day off from work!!!!!! Fair notice for me is a few weeks notice as I work with patients and as the only nurse in my area, I don't like to cancel patients getting their possibly life saving biopsies for any reason, short of I physically can't get to work due to a big time illness- however I will schedule cases around my days off. So that is my time frame. I can promise I would be there. Any takers for organizing and choice of a strategic date? There may be some thing I could do to help if I were not the primary organizer. I do have a computer and late weekend nights. Diane S. > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 No wonder I like you My last job (in the early 1980's) was Head Nurse Postpartum/Perinatal at Lutheran General...I hated that job but LOVED maternal health in general...just liked floor nursing better than management... E Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Re: Civil Disobedience. .. I too will show up at a largely single rally. I think there should be just one, the capitol on a day when lawmakers are in session, preferably on a day they vote. And Ellen you are absolutely right 500 in attendance is not gonna do it. If there is anyone who feels they are able to orginize something of this magnitude I will be there!!!!!!! I wish it could be me, but I would rather someone who is sure they could se the planning all the way through, it would be great. I work full time outside of the home as well as with my son, as well as still have other children at home as well. I can't organize something of this magnitude, BUT with a fair amount of notice I will definately take the day off from work!!!!!! Fair notice for me is a few weeks notice as I work with patients and as the only nurse in my area, I don't like to cancel patients getting their possibly life saving biopsies for any reason, short of I physically can't get to work due to a big time illness- however I will schedule cases around my days off. So that is my time frame. I can promise I would be there. Any takers for organizing and choice of a strategic date? There may be some thing I could do to help if I were not the primary organizer. I do have a computer and late weekend nights. Diane S. > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 No wonder I like you My last job (in the early 1980's) was Head Nurse Postpartum/Perinatal at Lutheran General...I hated that job but LOVED maternal health in general...just liked floor nursing better than management... E Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Re: Civil Disobedience. .. I too will show up at a largely single rally. I think there should be just one, the capitol on a day when lawmakers are in session, preferably on a day they vote. And Ellen you are absolutely right 500 in attendance is not gonna do it. If there is anyone who feels they are able to orginize something of this magnitude I will be there!!!!!!! I wish it could be me, but I would rather someone who is sure they could se the planning all the way through, it would be great. I work full time outside of the home as well as with my son, as well as still have other children at home as well. I can't organize something of this magnitude, BUT with a fair amount of notice I will definately take the day off from work!!!!!! Fair notice for me is a few weeks notice as I work with patients and as the only nurse in my area, I don't like to cancel patients getting their possibly life saving biopsies for any reason, short of I physically can't get to work due to a big time illness- however I will schedule cases around my days off. So that is my time frame. I can promise I would be there. Any takers for organizing and choice of a strategic date? There may be some thing I could do to help if I were not the primary organizer. I do have a computer and late weekend nights. Diane S. > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 I worked @ LGH 1969 - 1970, then married and moved to Elgin, and worked first @ Sherman, and then @ St. Joes. From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net> Subject: Re: Re: Civil Disobedience. .. IPADDUnite@gro ups.com Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 5:57 PM Ditto...I would be there but cannot organize it. By the way, Diane, I am a nurse, too...haven' t worked in years, but used to work postpartum/perinata l...loved it! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net Re: Civil Disobedience. .. I too will show up at a largely single rally. I think there should be just one, the capitol on a day when lawmakers are in session, preferably on a day they vote. And Ellen you are absolutely right 500 in attendance is not gonna do it. If there is anyone who feels they are able to orginize something of this magnitude I will be there!!!!!!! I wish it could be me, but I would rather someone who is sure they could se the planning all the way through, it would be great. I work full time outside of the home as well as with my son, as well as still have other children at home as well. I can't organize something of this magnitude, BUT with a fair amount of notice I will definately take the day off from work!!!!!! Fair notice for me is a few weeks notice as I work with patients and as the only nurse in my area, I don't like to cancel patients getting their possibly life saving biopsies for any reason, short of I physically can't get to work due to a big time illness- however I will schedule cases around my days off. So that is my time frame. I can promise I would be there. Any takers for organizing and choice of a strategic date? There may be some thing I could do to help if I were not the primary organizer. I do have a computer and late weekend nights. Diane S. > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 I worked @ LGH 1969 - 1970, then married and moved to Elgin, and worked first @ Sherman, and then @ St. Joes. From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net> Subject: Re: Re: Civil Disobedience. .. IPADDUnite@gro ups.com Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 5:57 PM Ditto...I would be there but cannot organize it. By the way, Diane, I am a nurse, too...haven' t worked in years, but used to work postpartum/perinata l...loved it! Ellen Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net Re: Civil Disobedience. .. I too will show up at a largely single rally. I think there should be just one, the capitol on a day when lawmakers are in session, preferably on a day they vote. And Ellen you are absolutely right 500 in attendance is not gonna do it. If there is anyone who feels they are able to orginize something of this magnitude I will be there!!!!!!! I wish it could be me, but I would rather someone who is sure they could se the planning all the way through, it would be great. I work full time outside of the home as well as with my son, as well as still have other children at home as well. I can't organize something of this magnitude, BUT with a fair amount of notice I will definately take the day off from work!!!!!! Fair notice for me is a few weeks notice as I work with patients and as the only nurse in my area, I don't like to cancel patients getting their possibly life saving biopsies for any reason, short of I physically can't get to work due to a big time illness- however I will schedule cases around my days off. So that is my time frame. I can promise I would be there. Any takers for organizing and choice of a strategic date? There may be some thing I could do to help if I were not the primary organizer. I do have a computer and late weekend nights. Diane S. > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 What a coincidence! E Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Re: Civil Disobedience. .. I too will show up at a largely single rally. I think there should be just one, the capitol on a day when lawmakers are in session, preferably on a day they vote. And Ellen you are absolutely right 500 in attendance is not gonna do it. If there is anyone who feels they are able to orginize something of this magnitude I will be there!!!!!!! I wish it could be me, but I would rather someone who is sure they could se the planning all the way through, it would be great. I work full time outside of the home as well as with my son, as well as still have other children at home as well. I can't organize something of this magnitude, BUT with a fair amount of notice I will definately take the day off from work!!!!!! Fair notice for me is a few weeks notice as I work with patients and as the only nurse in my area, I don't like to cancel patients getting their possibly life saving biopsies for any reason, short of I physically can't get to work due to a big time illness- however I will schedule cases around my days off. So that is my time frame. I can promise I would be there. Any takers for organizing and choice of a strategic date? There may be some thing I could do to help if I were not the primary organizer. I do have a computer and late weekend nights. Diane S. > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 What a coincidence! E Ellen Garber Bronfeld egskb@... Re: Civil Disobedience. .. I too will show up at a largely single rally. I think there should be just one, the capitol on a day when lawmakers are in session, preferably on a day they vote. And Ellen you are absolutely right 500 in attendance is not gonna do it. If there is anyone who feels they are able to orginize something of this magnitude I will be there!!!!!!! I wish it could be me, but I would rather someone who is sure they could se the planning all the way through, it would be great. I work full time outside of the home as well as with my son, as well as still have other children at home as well. I can't organize something of this magnitude, BUT with a fair amount of notice I will definately take the day off from work!!!!!! Fair notice for me is a few weeks notice as I work with patients and as the only nurse in my area, I don't like to cancel patients getting their possibly life saving biopsies for any reason, short of I physically can't get to work due to a big time illness- however I will schedule cases around my days off. So that is my time frame. I can promise I would be there. Any takers for organizing and choice of a strategic date? There may be some thing I could do to help if I were not the primary organizer. I do have a computer and late weekend nights. Diane S. > > > > Many families are talking about a plan to mount a civil disobedience campaign. > > I haven't a clue how to do this since we don't have any seats on the bus to begin with... > > Do we: > > a. Sit on legislators doorsteps with our kids for the day (pulling them out of programs that still exist and disrupting their lives further...) > > b. schlep to Springfield, spending what little money we all have on hotels, further disrupting our lives and those of our children??? > > > > How do we conduct civil disobedience when we need to be home with our kids who have disabilities and be parents to our other children? What about those of us who work to put food on the table? Parks did not have a child with a disability.. .how do we match her vision with deeds that make sense for us? > > I am going to bed but I guarantee I will go to sleep thinking about this and I will wake up in the morning thinking about this... > > Ellen > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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