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Thanks for giving those of us who are not in favor of unionizing DSP/PSW's a

little ammo...

and thanks also for my chuckle of the day.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers.

I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten*******(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into

the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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Thanks for giving those of us who are not in favor of unionizing DSP/PSW's a

little ammo...

and thanks also for my chuckle of the day.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers.

I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten*******(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into

the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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This is one way to keep parents distracted.

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From: rams110300 <rams110300@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:38:17 PM

Subject: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different entities:

AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers. I

asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list and

their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union rep.

came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into the

community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to the

police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that

these occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you to

stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden.

check your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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This is one way to keep parents distracted.

________________________________

From: rams110300 <rams110300@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:38:17 PM

Subject: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different entities:

AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers. I

asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list and

their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union rep.

came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into the

community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to the

police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that

these occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you to

stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden.

check your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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yes, thanks

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From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:45:18 PM

Subject: Re: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

Thanks for giving those of us who are not in favor of unionizing DSP/PSW's a

little ammo...

and thanks also for my chuckle of the day.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different entities:

AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers. I

asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list and

their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union rep.

came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into the

community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to the

police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I ask

her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable the

these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you to

stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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yes, thanks

________________________________

From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:45:18 PM

Subject: Re: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

Thanks for giving those of us who are not in favor of unionizing DSP/PSW's a

little ammo...

and thanks also for my chuckle of the day.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different entities:

AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers. I

asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list and

their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union rep.

came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into the

community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to the

police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I ask

her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable the

these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you to

stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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Absolutely, Colleen...

By the way, it may seem obvious but any of you whose children have DSP's outside

of family members, don't forget to contact them and discuss your views on

joining or not joining either of the unions. Caution them not to sign anything

if they don't wish to join a union. I totally forgot to contact one of Noah's

DSP's who doesn't work for him during the summer...I just did contact

her...hopefully she has not signed anything yet!

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers.

I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into

the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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Absolutely, Colleen...

By the way, it may seem obvious but any of you whose children have DSP's outside

of family members, don't forget to contact them and discuss your views on

joining or not joining either of the unions. Caution them not to sign anything

if they don't wish to join a union. I totally forgot to contact one of Noah's

DSP's who doesn't work for him during the summer...I just did contact

her...hopefully she has not signed anything yet!

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers.

I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into

the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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We just had another visit from AFSCME. Does anyone know motives of the Governor?

Why he ok union to contact us??

Colleen

________________________________

From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:14:15 PM

Subject: Re: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

Absolutely, Colleen...

By the way, it may seem obvious but any of you whose children have DSP's outside

of family members, don't forget to contact them and discuss your views on

joining or not joining either of the unions. Caution them not to sign anything

if they don't wish to join a union. I totally forgot to contact one of Noah's

DSP's who doesn't work for him during the summer...I just did contact

her...hopefully she has not signed anything yet!

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different entities:

AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers. I

asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list and

their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union rep.

came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into the

community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to the

police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I ask

her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable the

these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you to

stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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We just had another visit from AFSCME. Does anyone know motives of the Governor?

Why he ok union to contact us??

Colleen

________________________________

From: ELLEN BRONFELD <egskb@...>

IPADDUnite

Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:14:15 PM

Subject: Re: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

Absolutely, Colleen...

By the way, it may seem obvious but any of you whose children have DSP's outside

of family members, don't forget to contact them and discuss your views on

joining or not joining either of the unions. Caution them not to sign anything

if they don't wish to join a union. I totally forgot to contact one of Noah's

DSP's who doesn't work for him during the summer...I just did contact

her...hopefully she has not signed anything yet!

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskbsbcglobal (DOT) net

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different entities:

AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers. I

asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list and

their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union rep.

came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into the

community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to the

police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I ask

her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable the

these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you to

stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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I can only speculate, but the union has lots of votes...That would be the

obvious reason.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers.

I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into

the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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I can only speculate, but the union has lots of votes...That would be the

obvious reason.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers.

I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into

the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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With a brief explanation of why you " work " for your kid, this could be a nice

letter to the editor to your local papers.

-Gail

From: rams110300 <rams110300@...>

Subject: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a concern.

IPADDUnite

Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 3:38 PM

 

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two

different entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers. I

asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list and

their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union rep.

came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into the

community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to the

police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that

these occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you to

stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden.

check your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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With a brief explanation of why you " work " for your kid, this could be a nice

letter to the editor to your local papers.

-Gail

From: rams110300 <rams110300@...>

Subject: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a concern.

IPADDUnite

Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 3:38 PM

 

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two

different entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers. I

asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list and

their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union rep.

came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into the

community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to the

police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that

these occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you to

stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden.

check your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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I have been advising this in addition:

Get their contact information.

Any statements they make, write it down and get them to sign it.

Don't sign ANYTHING unless you have fully read, understand, and agree. There

have been reported instances of them telling people that they are " only "

signifying that the rep has been there while in fact they would be

indicating their desire to unionize.

Contact the National Labor Relations Board with any issues you might have.

http://www.nlrb.gov/

Charlotte

_____

From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On

Behalf Of rams110300

Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:38 PM

IPADDUnite

Subject: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support

Workers. I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested

Both, take off list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home

base workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a

list to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current

needs. They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the

funds coming into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now

me, GOOD LUCK! & Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble

to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten*******(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming

into the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and

unaccessable the these entities. There were others that were present the

resounded that these occerences are creating serious conseqences for them

and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign,

call them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and

forbiden. check your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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I have been advising this in addition:

Get their contact information.

Any statements they make, write it down and get them to sign it.

Don't sign ANYTHING unless you have fully read, understand, and agree. There

have been reported instances of them telling people that they are " only "

signifying that the rep has been there while in fact they would be

indicating their desire to unionize.

Contact the National Labor Relations Board with any issues you might have.

http://www.nlrb.gov/

Charlotte

_____

From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On

Behalf Of rams110300

Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:38 PM

IPADDUnite

Subject: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support

Workers. I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested

Both, take off list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home

base workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a

list to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current

needs. They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the

funds coming into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now

me, GOOD LUCK! & Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble

to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten*******(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming

into the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and

unaccessable the these entities. There were others that were present the

resounded that these occerences are creating serious conseqences for them

and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign,

call them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and

forbiden. check your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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I agree, Gail...I hope she decides to do that! Great idea.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

IPADDUnite

Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 3:38 PM

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers.

I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into

the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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I agree, Gail...I hope she decides to do that! Great idea.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

IPADDUnite

Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 3:38 PM

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers.

I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into

the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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Thanks, Charlotte.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support

Workers. I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested

Both, take off list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home

base workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a

list to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current

needs. They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the

funds coming into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now

me, GOOD LUCK! & Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble

to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten*******(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming

into the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and

unaccessable the these entities. There were others that were present the

resounded that these occerences are creating serious conseqences for them

and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign,

call them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and

forbiden. check your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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Thanks, Charlotte.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support

Workers. I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested

Both, take off list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home

base workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a

list to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current

needs. They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the

funds coming into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now

me, GOOD LUCK! & Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble

to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten*******(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming

into the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and

unaccessable the these entities. There were others that were present the

resounded that these occerences are creating serious conseqences for them

and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign,

call them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and

forbiden. check your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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I don't know if I would do that.   IME, I have run across ignorant people who

couldn't believe that parents were 'paid' to take care of their adult children. 

They then try to compare that to them not getting paid for raising their

children.

From: rams110300 <rams110300 (DOT) com>

Subject: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 3:38 PM

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different entities:

AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers. I

asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list and

their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union rep.

came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into the

community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to the

police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I ask

her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable the

these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you to

stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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I don't know if I would do that.   IME, I have run across ignorant people who

couldn't believe that parents were 'paid' to take care of their adult children. 

They then try to compare that to them not getting paid for raising their

children.

From: rams110300 <rams110300 (DOT) com>

Subject: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 3:38 PM

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different entities:

AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers. I

asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list and

their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union rep.

came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into the

community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to the

police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I ask

her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable the

these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you to

stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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Our circumstances are often so extreme. e.g.; not many support workers are

capable of caring for medically fragile and complicated individuals and many

others are not willing to care for individuals with aggressive behaviors...I

think, if an article or letter to the editor were framed well, it would be

effective. I agree, , that misinterpretation and general ignorance could

generate stupid questions and comments...I think it would be a risk worth taking

in highlighting the often impossible circumstances in which many of us must

exist.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 3:38 PM

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers.

I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into

the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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Our circumstances are often so extreme. e.g.; not many support workers are

capable of caring for medically fragile and complicated individuals and many

others are not willing to care for individuals with aggressive behaviors...I

think, if an article or letter to the editor were framed well, it would be

effective. I agree, , that misinterpretation and general ignorance could

generate stupid questions and comments...I think it would be a risk worth taking

in highlighting the often impossible circumstances in which many of us must

exist.

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a

concern.

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 3:38 PM

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different

entities: AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers.

I asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list

and their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union

rep. came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into

the community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to

the police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I

ask her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable

the these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you

to stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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Ellen, you're braver than me.  I remember one time on an AOL parenting message

board, I was explaining the Support Living Assistant program that Angel was

receiving and the ignorant wenches  that complained about us receiving these

services for free.  They tried to compare these services to welfare or free

'babysitting'.  I literally had my account suspended for seven days because of

my response to this person  (I called her an appropriate, but very nasty name).

To anyone out there who do 'work' for their children and are brave enough to go

public, I would suggest a very long narrative on what you do, why you do it, why

it's needed, etc.

From: rams110300 <rams110300@ . com>

Subject: Concerns with Unions and their efforsts raising a concern.

IPADDUnite@gro ups.com

Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 3:38 PM

It has started. Two weeks ago litature in the mail from two different entities:

AFSCME, Council 31. I have forgoten the other, maybe SEIU.

Second, phone calls from both. Asking for both of my In Home support Workers. I

asked how they got names and info. Reply, The State. Requested Both, take off

list and not to call.

This Monday, Two individuals showed up at my door again, asking for Home base

workers to join the union. I drilled them for info again.

Suggested an invaision of privacy. They said they got information again from

state. ( I truly question given December 2008, The refusal to turn over a list

to the pests.)

I asked them where is the money going to come from to pay for the unions

overhead, administraition, wages, benefits, perks when the amount that is

allocated to the waiver program is no even enough to support the current needs.

They assured me they were going to work hard to increase the the funds coming

into the waiver program. My comment to them, for those who now me, GOOD LUCK! &

Stop traying to reduce what little resources are availeble to our individuals.

I made a strong request for them, again, to remove my workers for their list and

their bodies from my propery.

Most Import thing I had forgoten**** ***(I used Today when the second union rep.

came to my door.) Our community has an ordinace that any one coming into the

community to solicit needs to have a permit.

So, when AFSCME Council 31 showed up, I asked them all the info to report to the

police. They do not have a permit of the right to be doing this.

I have shared the with Assocs. Secretary Grace Hou at a meeting yesterday. I ask

her if there was a way to may family information private and unaccessable the

these entities. There were others that were present the resounded that these

occerences are creating serious conseqences for them and their workers.

If these unions are approaching your personal propery the poliece advise you to

stop by, file a report, get a no tresspass sign, a no solisitation sign, call

them. Asking for dues to join the union is soliciting money and forbiden. check

your local ordineces, must residence are unaware of this.

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