Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 The HIV/AIDS fund is being misused because the donor like to listen to what their ears what to hear whether it is the truth or not. In most case what they are told is not the truth. Most of those organizations were given money because they have mastered the donor language not because they have a program. I know that because I’m in the village though I stay in town. Believe me just as we have cyber café Pastors we have cyber CBOS and NGOS. They have lost touch with the reality therefore they move from workshop to workshop taking photos and signatures to give to the donor because that is what the donor want. They have no time to implement what they have learnt so they enjoy the money while the sick continue to get sick. God forbid. Wait a second, did you read about the UNLIKELY HOSTS AT A FOOD KIOSK IN BUSIA IN THE DAILY NATION! I wise we have more of Ms , Ms Henn and Mr. Schulter they are practical. Don’t forget our Tom Obiero who is walking the streets and rural home touching the life of the orphan with his limited resources. Yet he cannot access that money from the globe fund. No wander he can receive the latter from the orphans. He is with them. Not to mention Nyaranga. Oh Africa, Kenya why enjoy while others are dying. The money is in the wrong hands. Okeyo --- Chifu <chifu2222@...> wrote: > COMMENTARY > > Misused funds: What do we tell the sick? > > Story by NYOKABI KAMAU > Publication Date: 4/6/2006 > > Speaking at the United States International > University in Kenya > recently, Prof Kihumbu Thairu said there were more > people " eating " > from Aids than those dying from it. > > This statement has been proved right by the lack of > transparency we > see in many Aids organisations. They seem to have > problems accounting > for the money they are supposed to have spent on > helping those who > need it. > > A deadline given to these organisations to account > for the money they > received from the Global Fund lapsed recently. This > posed a lot of > answered questions about the validity of such > organisations. > > It is most unfortunate. Even as our people continue > dying for lack of > food, Aids drugs and correct information on the > epidemic, such > organisations continue operating. Aids drugs are > expiring because they > are not being distributed. > > There are many questions that bother one about the > way Aids work has > been handled in this country. Instead of dealing > with serious > concerns, we cannot account for money that should > have dealt with the > challenges. > > How can we ever explain the fact that, in 2006, only > less than 10 per > cent of Kenya's women know their HIV status and that > grandmothers, > aged, impoverished and failing, have become the last > resort of orphan > support? > > And how can we explain the fact that the majority of > young girls and > boys still do not know how HIV is transmitted? > > How is it that laws against sexual violence and > marital rape and those > which embody property and inheritance rights are > still not a part of > Kenya's legislative fabric, a country most ravaged > by Aids? > > We have signed the African protocol on women's > rights and the > Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination > Against Women. Yet we > continue to dishonour these conventions? > > Our women carry this country on their backs. > Uncompensated, they reel > under the burden of care. Yet we look on without > even acknowledging > the fact? > > What are we going to tell our children now growing > up without parents > when so much could have been done to save the > parents for a little > longer if only money meant for them had been used > well? > > A great deal remains to be done on Aids. This does > not mean just > targeting those believed to be more at the risk of > being infected. It > means targeting those seen as less vulnerable as > well. > > A study I carried out in 2004/5 into how Kenya's > university women are > affected by HIV and Aids showed that, indeed, women > have no channels > to articulate their feelings about this epidemic. > > The study targeted two universities, one public and > the other private > and Christian. Both universities were seen as > treating the whole issue > of Aids with apathy, as a problem belonging only to > students and > support staff, not to senior staff. > > Yet many deaths continue being reported among the > seniors. I > interviewed 20 senior university women. > Interestingly, only two knew > their HIV status. > > Due to the way work on HIV/Aids has focused on the > poor and supposedly > more promiscuous groups, elite women did not want to > talk about their > experiences as they feared the stigma. > > This situation was worse in the Christian > university. It had taken the > position that its staff had nothing to do with a > disease of sinners. > Therefore, those affected, like the women in this > study, feared to > disclose their suffering. > > My study showed that the two universities were > paying lip service to > concern for HIV/Aids, especially where issues > affecting senior women > staff were concerned. Sex-related stigma was seen to > contribute to the > silence by the university elite. > > It is most unfortunate that even in universities, > which are citadels > of knowledge, there is silence on and fear of a > stigma on Aids, all > this in a country where millions of shillings meant > to fight Aids > cannot be accounted for by organisations, some of > which are led by > academics. > > We must all condemn the obvious laxity in the fight > against a pandemic > that threatens to wipe out our people. > > To make the matter worse, we are yet to come to > terms with the > possibility of bird flu, as it also seems shrouded > in secrecy and lack > of full information. Thus the cycle of Aids seems to > be repeating itself. > > Ms Kamau is a doctoral student at the University of > London > > http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/ > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 The HIV/AIDS fund is being misused because the donor like to listen to what their ears what to hear whether it is the truth or not. In most case what they are told is not the truth. Most of those organizations were given money because they have mastered the donor language not because they have a program. I know that because I’m in the village though I stay in town. Believe me just as we have cyber café Pastors we have cyber CBOS and NGOS. They have lost touch with the reality therefore they move from workshop to workshop taking photos and signatures to give to the donor because that is what the donor want. They have no time to implement what they have learnt so they enjoy the money while the sick continue to get sick. God forbid. Wait a second, did you read about the UNLIKELY HOSTS AT A FOOD KIOSK IN BUSIA IN THE DAILY NATION! I wise we have more of Ms , Ms Henn and Mr. Schulter they are practical. Don’t forget our Tom Obiero who is walking the streets and rural home touching the life of the orphan with his limited resources. Yet he cannot access that money from the globe fund. No wander he can receive the latter from the orphans. He is with them. Not to mention Nyaranga. Oh Africa, Kenya why enjoy while others are dying. The money is in the wrong hands. Okeyo --- Chifu <chifu2222@...> wrote: > COMMENTARY > > Misused funds: What do we tell the sick? > > Story by NYOKABI KAMAU > Publication Date: 4/6/2006 > > Speaking at the United States International > University in Kenya > recently, Prof Kihumbu Thairu said there were more > people " eating " > from Aids than those dying from it. > > This statement has been proved right by the lack of > transparency we > see in many Aids organisations. They seem to have > problems accounting > for the money they are supposed to have spent on > helping those who > need it. > > A deadline given to these organisations to account > for the money they > received from the Global Fund lapsed recently. This > posed a lot of > answered questions about the validity of such > organisations. > > It is most unfortunate. Even as our people continue > dying for lack of > food, Aids drugs and correct information on the > epidemic, such > organisations continue operating. Aids drugs are > expiring because they > are not being distributed. > > There are many questions that bother one about the > way Aids work has > been handled in this country. Instead of dealing > with serious > concerns, we cannot account for money that should > have dealt with the > challenges. > > How can we ever explain the fact that, in 2006, only > less than 10 per > cent of Kenya's women know their HIV status and that > grandmothers, > aged, impoverished and failing, have become the last > resort of orphan > support? > > And how can we explain the fact that the majority of > young girls and > boys still do not know how HIV is transmitted? > > How is it that laws against sexual violence and > marital rape and those > which embody property and inheritance rights are > still not a part of > Kenya's legislative fabric, a country most ravaged > by Aids? > > We have signed the African protocol on women's > rights and the > Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination > Against Women. Yet we > continue to dishonour these conventions? > > Our women carry this country on their backs. > Uncompensated, they reel > under the burden of care. Yet we look on without > even acknowledging > the fact? > > What are we going to tell our children now growing > up without parents > when so much could have been done to save the > parents for a little > longer if only money meant for them had been used > well? > > A great deal remains to be done on Aids. This does > not mean just > targeting those believed to be more at the risk of > being infected. It > means targeting those seen as less vulnerable as > well. > > A study I carried out in 2004/5 into how Kenya's > university women are > affected by HIV and Aids showed that, indeed, women > have no channels > to articulate their feelings about this epidemic. > > The study targeted two universities, one public and > the other private > and Christian. Both universities were seen as > treating the whole issue > of Aids with apathy, as a problem belonging only to > students and > support staff, not to senior staff. > > Yet many deaths continue being reported among the > seniors. I > interviewed 20 senior university women. > Interestingly, only two knew > their HIV status. > > Due to the way work on HIV/Aids has focused on the > poor and supposedly > more promiscuous groups, elite women did not want to > talk about their > experiences as they feared the stigma. > > This situation was worse in the Christian > university. It had taken the > position that its staff had nothing to do with a > disease of sinners. > Therefore, those affected, like the women in this > study, feared to > disclose their suffering. > > My study showed that the two universities were > paying lip service to > concern for HIV/Aids, especially where issues > affecting senior women > staff were concerned. Sex-related stigma was seen to > contribute to the > silence by the university elite. > > It is most unfortunate that even in universities, > which are citadels > of knowledge, there is silence on and fear of a > stigma on Aids, all > this in a country where millions of shillings meant > to fight Aids > cannot be accounted for by organisations, some of > which are led by > academics. > > We must all condemn the obvious laxity in the fight > against a pandemic > that threatens to wipe out our people. > > To make the matter worse, we are yet to come to > terms with the > possibility of bird flu, as it also seems shrouded > in secrecy and lack > of full information. Thus the cycle of Aids seems to > be repeating itself. > > Ms Kamau is a doctoral student at the University of > London > > http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/ > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Tell them. To not give. Up hope Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld Re: Kenya Aids: Misused Funds: What Do We Tell the Sick? The HIV/AIDS fund is being misused because the donor like to listen to what their ears what to hear whether it is the truth or not. In most case what they are told is not the truth. Most of those organizations were given money because they have mastered the donor language not because they have a program. I know that because I’m in the village though I stay in town. Believe me just as we have cyber café Pastors we have cyber CBOS and NGOS. They have lost touch with the reality therefore they move from workshop to workshop taking photos and signatures to give to the donor because that is what the donor want. They have no time to implement what they have learnt so they enjoy the money while the sick continue to get sick. God forbid. Wait a second, did you read about the UNLIKELY HOSTS AT A FOOD KIOSK IN BUSIA IN THE DAILY NATION! I wise we have more of Ms , Ms Henn and Mr. Schulter they are practical. Don’t forget our Tom Obiero who is walking the streets and rural home touching the life of the orphan with his limited resources. Yet he cannot access that money from the globe fund. No wander he can receive the latter from the orphans. He is with them. Not to mention Nyaranga. Oh Africa, Kenya why enjoy while others are dying. The money is in the wrong hands. Okeyo --- Chifu <chifu2222@...> wrote: > COMMENTARY > > Misused funds: What do we tell the sick? > > Story by NYOKABI KAMAU > Publication Date: 4/6/2006 > > Speaking at the United States International > University in Kenya > recently, Prof Kihumbu Thairu said there were more > people " eating " > from Aids than those dying from it. > > This statement has been proved right by the lack of > transparency we > see in many Aids organisations. They seem to have > problems accounting > for the money they are supposed to have spent on > helping those who > need it. > > A deadline given to these organisations to account > for the money they > received from the Global Fund lapsed recently. This > posed a lot of > answered questions about the validity of such > organisations. > > It is most unfortunate. Even as our people continue > dying for lack of > food, Aids drugs and correct information on the > epidemic, such > organisations continue operating. Aids drugs are > expiring because they > are not being distributed. > > There are many questions that bother one about the > way Aids work has > been handled in this country. Instead of dealing > with serious > concerns, we cannot account for money that should > have dealt with the > challenges. > > How can we ever explain the fact that, in 2006, only > less than 10 per > cent of Kenya's women know their HIV status and that > grandmothers, > aged, impoverished and failing, have become the last > resort of orphan > support? > > And how can we explain the fact that the majority of > young girls and > boys still do not know how HIV is transmitted? > > How is it that laws against sexual violence and > marital rape and those > which embody property and inheritance rights are > still not a part of > Kenya's legislative fabric, a country most ravaged > by Aids? > > We have signed the African protocol on women's > rights and the > Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination > Against Women. Yet we > continue to dishonour these conventions? > > Our women carry this country on their backs. > Uncompensated, they reel > under the burden of care. Yet we look on without > even acknowledging > the fact? > > What are we going to tell our children now growing > up without parents > when so much could have been done to save the > parents for a little > longer if only money meant for them had been used > well? > > A great deal remains to be done on Aids. This does > not mean just > targeting those believed to be more at the risk of > being infected. It > means targeting those seen as less vulnerable as > well. > > A study I carried out in 2004/5 into how Kenya's > university women are > affected by HIV and Aids showed that, indeed, women > have no channels > to articulate their feelings about this epidemic. > > The study targeted two universities, one public and > the other private > and Christian. Both universities were seen as > treating the whole issue > of Aids with apathy, as a problem belonging only to > students and > support staff, not to senior staff. > > Yet many deaths continue being reported among the > seniors. I > interviewed 20 senior university women. > Interestingly, only two knew > their HIV status. > > Due to the way work on HIV/Aids has focused on the > poor and supposedly > more promiscuous groups, elite women did not want to > talk about their > experiences as they feared the stigma. > > This situation was worse in the Christian > university. It had taken the > position that its staff had nothing to do with a > disease of sinners. > Therefore, those affected, like the women in this > study, feared to > disclose their suffering. > > My study showed that the two universities were > paying lip service to > concern for HIV/Aids, especially where issues > affecting senior women > staff were concerned. Sex-related stigma was seen to > contribute to the > silence by the university elite. > > It is most unfortunate that even in universities, > which are citadels > of knowledge, there is silence on and fear of a > stigma on Aids, all > this in a country where millions of shillings meant > to fight Aids > cannot be accounted for by organisations, some of > which are led by > academics. > > We must all condemn the obvious laxity in the fight > against a pandemic > that threatens to wipe out our people. > > To make the matter worse, we are yet to come to > terms with the > possibility of bird flu, as it also seems shrouded > in secrecy and lack > of full information. Thus the cycle of Aids seems to > be repeating itself. > > Ms Kamau is a doctoral student at the University of > London > > http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/ > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Tell them. To not give. Up hope Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld Re: Kenya Aids: Misused Funds: What Do We Tell the Sick? The HIV/AIDS fund is being misused because the donor like to listen to what their ears what to hear whether it is the truth or not. In most case what they are told is not the truth. Most of those organizations were given money because they have mastered the donor language not because they have a program. I know that because I’m in the village though I stay in town. Believe me just as we have cyber café Pastors we have cyber CBOS and NGOS. They have lost touch with the reality therefore they move from workshop to workshop taking photos and signatures to give to the donor because that is what the donor want. They have no time to implement what they have learnt so they enjoy the money while the sick continue to get sick. God forbid. Wait a second, did you read about the UNLIKELY HOSTS AT A FOOD KIOSK IN BUSIA IN THE DAILY NATION! I wise we have more of Ms , Ms Henn and Mr. Schulter they are practical. Don’t forget our Tom Obiero who is walking the streets and rural home touching the life of the orphan with his limited resources. Yet he cannot access that money from the globe fund. No wander he can receive the latter from the orphans. He is with them. Not to mention Nyaranga. Oh Africa, Kenya why enjoy while others are dying. The money is in the wrong hands. Okeyo --- Chifu <chifu2222@...> wrote: > COMMENTARY > > Misused funds: What do we tell the sick? > > Story by NYOKABI KAMAU > Publication Date: 4/6/2006 > > Speaking at the United States International > University in Kenya > recently, Prof Kihumbu Thairu said there were more > people " eating " > from Aids than those dying from it. > > This statement has been proved right by the lack of > transparency we > see in many Aids organisations. They seem to have > problems accounting > for the money they are supposed to have spent on > helping those who > need it. > > A deadline given to these organisations to account > for the money they > received from the Global Fund lapsed recently. This > posed a lot of > answered questions about the validity of such > organisations. > > It is most unfortunate. Even as our people continue > dying for lack of > food, Aids drugs and correct information on the > epidemic, such > organisations continue operating. Aids drugs are > expiring because they > are not being distributed. > > There are many questions that bother one about the > way Aids work has > been handled in this country. Instead of dealing > with serious > concerns, we cannot account for money that should > have dealt with the > challenges. > > How can we ever explain the fact that, in 2006, only > less than 10 per > cent of Kenya's women know their HIV status and that > grandmothers, > aged, impoverished and failing, have become the last > resort of orphan > support? > > And how can we explain the fact that the majority of > young girls and > boys still do not know how HIV is transmitted? > > How is it that laws against sexual violence and > marital rape and those > which embody property and inheritance rights are > still not a part of > Kenya's legislative fabric, a country most ravaged > by Aids? > > We have signed the African protocol on women's > rights and the > Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination > Against Women. Yet we > continue to dishonour these conventions? > > Our women carry this country on their backs. > Uncompensated, they reel > under the burden of care. Yet we look on without > even acknowledging > the fact? > > What are we going to tell our children now growing > up without parents > when so much could have been done to save the > parents for a little > longer if only money meant for them had been used > well? > > A great deal remains to be done on Aids. This does > not mean just > targeting those believed to be more at the risk of > being infected. It > means targeting those seen as less vulnerable as > well. > > A study I carried out in 2004/5 into how Kenya's > university women are > affected by HIV and Aids showed that, indeed, women > have no channels > to articulate their feelings about this epidemic. > > The study targeted two universities, one public and > the other private > and Christian. Both universities were seen as > treating the whole issue > of Aids with apathy, as a problem belonging only to > students and > support staff, not to senior staff. > > Yet many deaths continue being reported among the > seniors. I > interviewed 20 senior university women. > Interestingly, only two knew > their HIV status. > > Due to the way work on HIV/Aids has focused on the > poor and supposedly > more promiscuous groups, elite women did not want to > talk about their > experiences as they feared the stigma. > > This situation was worse in the Christian > university. It had taken the > position that its staff had nothing to do with a > disease of sinners. > Therefore, those affected, like the women in this > study, feared to > disclose their suffering. > > My study showed that the two universities were > paying lip service to > concern for HIV/Aids, especially where issues > affecting senior women > staff were concerned. Sex-related stigma was seen to > contribute to the > silence by the university elite. > > It is most unfortunate that even in universities, > which are citadels > of knowledge, there is silence on and fear of a > stigma on Aids, all > this in a country where millions of shillings meant > to fight Aids > cannot be accounted for by organisations, some of > which are led by > academics. > > We must all condemn the obvious laxity in the fight > against a pandemic > that threatens to wipe out our people. > > To make the matter worse, we are yet to come to > terms with the > possibility of bird flu, as it also seems shrouded > in secrecy and lack > of full information. Thus the cycle of Aids seems to > be repeating itself. > > Ms Kamau is a doctoral student at the University of > London > > http://www.nationmedia.com/dailynation/ > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 It is a case of chicken coming home to roost. When you see the government started blaming the entire community based organizations for not sending reports on time, one realizes that something is a mis. When AIDS fund were released, many of the people in the government hurriedly formed CBO's to get to this money. It did not matter to them if it was for AIDS patients or not. You look at the composition of the people in charge of disbursing the funds, most of them have them are affiliated to some of the CBO's some of who might have not released their report. My point here is that, most of the CBO's were formed with AIDS fund in mind, not to help those who are suffering. It is not about the donor language that those who did not receive the funds lack, it is about people having vested interest in these funds and therefore give to their cronies. I think this should also be a lesson to those who are involved in funds disbursement. I also think Madam Ngilu should not blame anybody for the shortcomings as this was even there last year. Blame yourself for having people with vested interest other than those whom they are supposed to help to be managing the funds. Let the government also publish the names of those organizations, instead of dragging in the names of the entire CBO's. --- dehasnem@... wrote: > Tell them. To not give. Up hope > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > Re: Kenya Aids: Misused Funds: > What Do We Tell the Sick? > > The HIV/AIDS fund is being misused because the donor > like to listen to what their ears what to hear > whether > it is the truth or not. In most case what they are > told is not the truth. Most of those organizations > were given money because they have mastered the > donor > language not because they have a program. I know > that > because I’m in the village though I stay in town. > Believe me just as we have cyber café Pastors we > have > cyber CBOS and NGOS. They have lost touch with the > reality therefore they move from workshop to > workshop > taking photos and signatures to give to the donor > because that is what the donor want. They have no > time > to implement what they have learnt so they enjoy the > money while the sick continue to get sick. God > forbid. > > Wait a second, did you read about the UNLIKELY HOSTS > AT A FOOD KIOSK IN BUSIA IN THE DAILY NATION! I wise > we have more of Ms , Ms Henn and Mr. Schulter > they > are practical. Don’t forget our Tom Obiero who is > walking the streets and rural home touching the life > of the orphan with his limited resources. Yet he > cannot access that money from the globe fund. No > wander he can receive the latter from the orphans. > He > is with them. Not to mention Nyaranga. Oh Africa, > Kenya why enjoy while others are dying. The money is > in the wrong hands. > Okeyo > > > --- Chifu <chifu2222@...> wrote: > > > COMMENTARY > > > > Misused funds: What do we tell the sick? > > > > Story by NYOKABI KAMAU > > Publication Date: 4/6/2006 > > > > Speaking at the United States International > > University in Kenya > > recently, Prof Kihumbu Thairu said there were more > > people " eating " > > from Aids than those dying from it. > > > > This statement has been proved right by the lack > of > > transparency we > > see in many Aids organisations. They seem to have > > problems accounting > > for the money they are supposed to have spent on > > helping those who > > need it. > > > > A deadline given to these organisations to account > > for the money they > > received from the Global Fund lapsed recently. > This > > posed a lot of > > answered questions about the validity of such > > organisations. > > > > It is most unfortunate. Even as our people > continue > > dying for lack of > > food, Aids drugs and correct information on the > > epidemic, such > > organisations continue operating. Aids drugs are > > expiring because they > > are not being distributed. > > > > There are many questions that bother one about the > > way Aids work has > > been handled in this country. Instead of dealing > > with serious > > concerns, we cannot account for money that should > > have dealt with the > > challenges. > > > > How can we ever explain the fact that, in 2006, > only > > less than 10 per > > cent of Kenya's women know their HIV status and > that > > grandmothers, > > aged, impoverished and failing, have become the > last > > resort of orphan > > support? > > > > And how can we explain the fact that the majority > of > > young girls and > > boys still do not know how HIV is transmitted? > > > > How is it that laws against sexual violence and > > marital rape and those > > which embody property and inheritance rights are > > still not a part of > > Kenya's legislative fabric, a country most ravaged > > by Aids? > > > > We have signed the African protocol on women's > > rights and the > > Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination > > Against Women. Yet we > > continue to dishonour these conventions? > > > > Our women carry this country on their backs. > > Uncompensated, they reel > > under the burden of care. Yet we look on without > > even acknowledging > > the fact? > > > > What are we going to tell our children now growing > > up without parents > > when so much could have been done to save the > > parents for a little > > longer if only money meant for them had been used > > well? > > > > A great deal remains to be done on Aids. This does > > not mean just > > targeting those believed to be more at the risk of > > being infected. It > > means targeting those seen as less vulnerable as > > well. > > > > A study I carried out in 2004/5 into how Kenya's > > university women are > > affected by HIV and Aids showed that, indeed, > women > > have no channels > > to articulate their feelings about this epidemic. > > > > The study targeted two universities, one public > and > > the other private > > and Christian. Both universities were seen as > > treating the whole issue > > of Aids with apathy, as a problem belonging only > to > > students and > > support staff, not to senior staff. > > > > Yet many deaths continue being reported among the > > seniors. I > > interviewed 20 senior university women. > > Interestingly, only two knew > > their HIV status. > > > > Due to the way work on HIV/Aids has focused on the > > poor and supposedly > > more promiscuous groups, elite women did not want > to > > talk about their > > experiences as they feared the stigma. > > > > This situation was worse in the Christian > > university. It had taken the > > position that its staff had nothing to do with a > > disease of sinners. > > Therefore, those affected, like the women in this > > study, feared to > > disclose their suffering. > > > > My study showed that the two universities were > > paying lip service to > > concern for HIV/Aids, especially where issues > > affecting senior women > > staff were concerned. Sex-related stigma was seen > to > > contribute to the > > silence by the university elite. > > > > It is most unfortunate that even in universities, > > which are citadels > > of knowledge, there is silence on and fear of a > > stigma on Aids, all > > this in a country where millions of shillings > meant > > to fight Aids > > cannot be accounted for by organisations, some of > === message truncated === Onyango Project Administrator Slums Information Development & Resource Centres(SIDAREC) P.O.BOX 9687 00300 TEL. 254-2 246961,247356, MIBILE: 0733-832231 NAIROBI,KENYA. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 It is a case of chicken coming home to roost. When you see the government started blaming the entire community based organizations for not sending reports on time, one realizes that something is a mis. When AIDS fund were released, many of the people in the government hurriedly formed CBO's to get to this money. It did not matter to them if it was for AIDS patients or not. You look at the composition of the people in charge of disbursing the funds, most of them have them are affiliated to some of the CBO's some of who might have not released their report. My point here is that, most of the CBO's were formed with AIDS fund in mind, not to help those who are suffering. It is not about the donor language that those who did not receive the funds lack, it is about people having vested interest in these funds and therefore give to their cronies. I think this should also be a lesson to those who are involved in funds disbursement. I also think Madam Ngilu should not blame anybody for the shortcomings as this was even there last year. Blame yourself for having people with vested interest other than those whom they are supposed to help to be managing the funds. Let the government also publish the names of those organizations, instead of dragging in the names of the entire CBO's. --- dehasnem@... wrote: > Tell them. To not give. Up hope > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > Re: Kenya Aids: Misused Funds: > What Do We Tell the Sick? > > The HIV/AIDS fund is being misused because the donor > like to listen to what their ears what to hear > whether > it is the truth or not. In most case what they are > told is not the truth. Most of those organizations > were given money because they have mastered the > donor > language not because they have a program. I know > that > because I’m in the village though I stay in town. > Believe me just as we have cyber café Pastors we > have > cyber CBOS and NGOS. They have lost touch with the > reality therefore they move from workshop to > workshop > taking photos and signatures to give to the donor > because that is what the donor want. They have no > time > to implement what they have learnt so they enjoy the > money while the sick continue to get sick. God > forbid. > > Wait a second, did you read about the UNLIKELY HOSTS > AT A FOOD KIOSK IN BUSIA IN THE DAILY NATION! I wise > we have more of Ms , Ms Henn and Mr. Schulter > they > are practical. Don’t forget our Tom Obiero who is > walking the streets and rural home touching the life > of the orphan with his limited resources. Yet he > cannot access that money from the globe fund. No > wander he can receive the latter from the orphans. > He > is with them. Not to mention Nyaranga. Oh Africa, > Kenya why enjoy while others are dying. The money is > in the wrong hands. > Okeyo > > > --- Chifu <chifu2222@...> wrote: > > > COMMENTARY > > > > Misused funds: What do we tell the sick? > > > > Story by NYOKABI KAMAU > > Publication Date: 4/6/2006 > > > > Speaking at the United States International > > University in Kenya > > recently, Prof Kihumbu Thairu said there were more > > people " eating " > > from Aids than those dying from it. > > > > This statement has been proved right by the lack > of > > transparency we > > see in many Aids organisations. They seem to have > > problems accounting > > for the money they are supposed to have spent on > > helping those who > > need it. > > > > A deadline given to these organisations to account > > for the money they > > received from the Global Fund lapsed recently. > This > > posed a lot of > > answered questions about the validity of such > > organisations. > > > > It is most unfortunate. Even as our people > continue > > dying for lack of > > food, Aids drugs and correct information on the > > epidemic, such > > organisations continue operating. Aids drugs are > > expiring because they > > are not being distributed. > > > > There are many questions that bother one about the > > way Aids work has > > been handled in this country. Instead of dealing > > with serious > > concerns, we cannot account for money that should > > have dealt with the > > challenges. > > > > How can we ever explain the fact that, in 2006, > only > > less than 10 per > > cent of Kenya's women know their HIV status and > that > > grandmothers, > > aged, impoverished and failing, have become the > last > > resort of orphan > > support? > > > > And how can we explain the fact that the majority > of > > young girls and > > boys still do not know how HIV is transmitted? > > > > How is it that laws against sexual violence and > > marital rape and those > > which embody property and inheritance rights are > > still not a part of > > Kenya's legislative fabric, a country most ravaged > > by Aids? > > > > We have signed the African protocol on women's > > rights and the > > Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination > > Against Women. Yet we > > continue to dishonour these conventions? > > > > Our women carry this country on their backs. > > Uncompensated, they reel > > under the burden of care. Yet we look on without > > even acknowledging > > the fact? > > > > What are we going to tell our children now growing > > up without parents > > when so much could have been done to save the > > parents for a little > > longer if only money meant for them had been used > > well? > > > > A great deal remains to be done on Aids. This does > > not mean just > > targeting those believed to be more at the risk of > > being infected. It > > means targeting those seen as less vulnerable as > > well. > > > > A study I carried out in 2004/5 into how Kenya's > > university women are > > affected by HIV and Aids showed that, indeed, > women > > have no channels > > to articulate their feelings about this epidemic. > > > > The study targeted two universities, one public > and > > the other private > > and Christian. Both universities were seen as > > treating the whole issue > > of Aids with apathy, as a problem belonging only > to > > students and > > support staff, not to senior staff. > > > > Yet many deaths continue being reported among the > > seniors. I > > interviewed 20 senior university women. > > Interestingly, only two knew > > their HIV status. > > > > Due to the way work on HIV/Aids has focused on the > > poor and supposedly > > more promiscuous groups, elite women did not want > to > > talk about their > > experiences as they feared the stigma. > > > > This situation was worse in the Christian > > university. It had taken the > > position that its staff had nothing to do with a > > disease of sinners. > > Therefore, those affected, like the women in this > > study, feared to > > disclose their suffering. > > > > My study showed that the two universities were > > paying lip service to > > concern for HIV/Aids, especially where issues > > affecting senior women > > staff were concerned. Sex-related stigma was seen > to > > contribute to the > > silence by the university elite. > > > > It is most unfortunate that even in universities, > > which are citadels > > of knowledge, there is silence on and fear of a > > stigma on Aids, all > > this in a country where millions of shillings > meant > > to fight Aids > > cannot be accounted for by organisations, some of > === message truncated === Onyango Project Administrator Slums Information Development & Resource Centres(SIDAREC) P.O.BOX 9687 00300 TEL. 254-2 246961,247356, MIBILE: 0733-832231 NAIROBI,KENYA. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I just read your posting and tried to ring you and all the numbers in your signature panel are wrong. Can you please update them for me. Of course while flawed grants are issued money will never reach those for whom it is intended. The problem is we don't have the community organised to be able to make better use of the money and expose the grant decisions that lead to corruption. I would love to work with you to strategise ways of changing the funding priorities. Geoffrey Geoff Heaviside HIV/AIDS Policy Consultant Convenor - Brimbank Community Initiatives Inc Secretary - International Centre for Health Equity Inc Member - Australasian Society for HIV Medicine Inc Member - ILGA Brussels P.O. Box 606 Sunshine 3020 . Australia. Ph: 0418 328 278 Ph/Fax : (61 3) 9449 1856 or in India Mr Geoff Heaviside Mobile : (91) 9840 097 178 (SMS when not in India) " The new century is not going to be new at all if we offer only charity, that palliative to satisfy the conscience and keep the same old system of haves and have-nots quietly contained. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I just read your posting and tried to ring you and all the numbers in your signature panel are wrong. Can you please update them for me. Of course while flawed grants are issued money will never reach those for whom it is intended. The problem is we don't have the community organised to be able to make better use of the money and expose the grant decisions that lead to corruption. I would love to work with you to strategise ways of changing the funding priorities. Geoffrey Geoff Heaviside HIV/AIDS Policy Consultant Convenor - Brimbank Community Initiatives Inc Secretary - International Centre for Health Equity Inc Member - Australasian Society for HIV Medicine Inc Member - ILGA Brussels P.O. Box 606 Sunshine 3020 . Australia. Ph: 0418 328 278 Ph/Fax : (61 3) 9449 1856 or in India Mr Geoff Heaviside Mobile : (91) 9840 097 178 (SMS when not in India) " The new century is not going to be new at all if we offer only charity, that palliative to satisfy the conscience and keep the same old system of haves and have-nots quietly contained. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Dear I totaly agree with you on this.The Aids money in some ways has even been used to put up even storey buildings for individuals.Some of the CBOs that were given grants are none existant,so how do they submitt report. It was in this forum that i said last year that we need to decentralise the disbursement of funds,Dr Abdulla can agree with me because he tried it but he was opposed even though this was the best way.If funds are disbursed from chancery House where Nacc has offices who then is there on the ground to monitor? During propasal submission we have several guys who cullude with the constituency chairman to draft propasal for CBOs at a cost to be meet after funding has been approved!! how then do you account for this money?several times i have said MPs should be out of this money and Madam Ngilu i belive know why am saying so,let her look back into the affairs of the constituency Aids team that gives the grants.Has she ever bothered to visit even 3 CBOs that got this money from her area. Donors should think about reaching out to the CBOs and implement the programm in partnership with the govrnment.Money shoul be set aside for evaluation and monitoring. Hezekiah --- GEORGE ONYANGO <geogias@...> wrote: > It is a case of chicken coming home to roost. When > you > see the government started blaming the entire > community based organizations for not sending > reports > on time, one realizes that something is a mis. When > AIDS fund were released, many of the people in the > government hurriedly formed CBO's to get to this > money. It did not matter to them if it was for AIDS > patients or not. You look at the composition of the > people in charge of disbursing the funds, most of > them > have them are affiliated to some of the CBO's some > of > who might have not released their report. > > My point here is that, most of the CBO's were formed > with AIDS fund in mind, not to help those who are > suffering. It is not about the donor language that > those who did not receive the funds lack, it is > about > people having vested interest in these funds and > therefore give to their cronies. I think this should > also be a lesson to those who are involved in funds > disbursement. I also think Madam Ngilu should not > blame anybody for the shortcomings as this was even > there last year. Blame yourself for having people > with > vested interest other than those whom they are > supposed to help to be managing the funds. Let the > government also publish the names of those > organizations, instead of dragging in the names of > the > entire CBO's. > > --- dehasnem@... wrote: > > > Tell them. To not give. Up hope > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > > > Re: Kenya Aids: Misused > Funds: > > What Do We Tell the Sick? > > > > The HIV/AIDS fund is being misused because the > donor > > like to listen to what their ears what to hear > > whether > > it is the truth or not. In most case what they are > > told is not the truth. Most of those organizations > > were given money because they have mastered the > > donor > > language not because they have a program. I know > > that > > because I’m in the village though I stay in town. > > Believe me just as we have cyber café Pastors we > > have > > cyber CBOS and NGOS. They have lost touch with the > > reality therefore they move from workshop to > > workshop > > taking photos and signatures to give to the donor > > because that is what the donor want. They have no > > time > > to implement what they have learnt so they enjoy > the > > money while the sick continue to get sick. God > > forbid. > > > > Wait a second, did you read about the UNLIKELY > HOSTS > > AT A FOOD KIOSK IN BUSIA IN THE DAILY NATION! I > wise > > we have more of Ms , Ms Henn and Mr. Schulter > > they > > are practical. Don’t forget our Tom Obiero who is > > walking the streets and rural home touching the > life > > of the orphan with his limited resources. Yet he > > cannot access that money from the globe fund. No > > wander he can receive the latter from the orphans. > > He > > is with them. Not to mention Nyaranga. Oh Africa, > > Kenya why enjoy while others are dying. The money > is > > in the wrong hands. > > Okeyo > > > > > > --- Chifu <chifu2222@...> wrote: > > > > > COMMENTARY > > > > > > Misused funds: What do we tell the sick? > > > > > > Story by NYOKABI KAMAU > > > Publication Date: 4/6/2006 > > > > > > Speaking at the United States International > > > University in Kenya > > > recently, Prof Kihumbu Thairu said there were > more > > > people " eating " > > > from Aids than those dying from it. > > > > > > This statement has been proved right by the lack > > of > > > transparency we > > > see in many Aids organisations. They seem to > have > > > problems accounting > > > for the money they are supposed to have spent on > > > helping those who > > > need it. > > > > > > A deadline given to these organisations to > account > > > for the money they > > > received from the Global Fund lapsed recently. > > This > > > posed a lot of > > > answered questions about the validity of such > > > organisations. > > > > > > It is most unfortunate. Even as our people > > continue > > > dying for lack of > > > food, Aids drugs and correct information on the > > > epidemic, such > > > organisations continue operating. Aids drugs are > > > expiring because they > > > are not being distributed. > > > > > > There are many questions that bother one about > the > > > way Aids work has > > > been handled in this country. Instead of dealing > > > with serious > > > concerns, we cannot account for money that > should > > > have dealt with the > > > challenges. > > > > > > How can we ever explain the fact that, in 2006, > > only > > > less than 10 per > > > cent of Kenya's women know their HIV status and > > that > > > grandmothers, > > > aged, impoverished and failing, have become the > > last > > > resort of orphan > > > support? > > > > > > And how can we explain the fact that the > majority > > of > > > young girls and > > > boys still do not know how HIV is transmitted? > > > > > > How is it that laws against sexual violence and > > > marital rape and those > > > which embody property and inheritance rights are > > > still not a part of > > > Kenya's legislative fabric, a country most > ravaged > > > by Aids? > > > > > > We have signed the African protocol on women's > > > rights and the > > > Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination > > > Against Women. Yet we > > > continue to dishonour these conventions? > > > > > > Our women carry this country on their backs. > > > Uncompensated, they reel > > > under the burden of care. Yet we look on without > > > even acknowledging > > > the fact? > > > > > > What are we going to tell our children now > growing > > > up without parents > > > when so much could have been done to save the > > > parents for a little > > > longer if only money meant for them had been > used > > > well? > > > > > > A great deal remains to be done on Aids. This > does > > > not mean just > > > targeting those believed to be more at the risk > of > > > being infected. It > > > means targeting those seen as less vulnerable as > > > well. > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Dear I totaly agree with you on this.The Aids money in some ways has even been used to put up even storey buildings for individuals.Some of the CBOs that were given grants are none existant,so how do they submitt report. It was in this forum that i said last year that we need to decentralise the disbursement of funds,Dr Abdulla can agree with me because he tried it but he was opposed even though this was the best way.If funds are disbursed from chancery House where Nacc has offices who then is there on the ground to monitor? During propasal submission we have several guys who cullude with the constituency chairman to draft propasal for CBOs at a cost to be meet after funding has been approved!! how then do you account for this money?several times i have said MPs should be out of this money and Madam Ngilu i belive know why am saying so,let her look back into the affairs of the constituency Aids team that gives the grants.Has she ever bothered to visit even 3 CBOs that got this money from her area. Donors should think about reaching out to the CBOs and implement the programm in partnership with the govrnment.Money shoul be set aside for evaluation and monitoring. Hezekiah --- GEORGE ONYANGO <geogias@...> wrote: > It is a case of chicken coming home to roost. When > you > see the government started blaming the entire > community based organizations for not sending > reports > on time, one realizes that something is a mis. When > AIDS fund were released, many of the people in the > government hurriedly formed CBO's to get to this > money. It did not matter to them if it was for AIDS > patients or not. You look at the composition of the > people in charge of disbursing the funds, most of > them > have them are affiliated to some of the CBO's some > of > who might have not released their report. > > My point here is that, most of the CBO's were formed > with AIDS fund in mind, not to help those who are > suffering. It is not about the donor language that > those who did not receive the funds lack, it is > about > people having vested interest in these funds and > therefore give to their cronies. I think this should > also be a lesson to those who are involved in funds > disbursement. I also think Madam Ngilu should not > blame anybody for the shortcomings as this was even > there last year. Blame yourself for having people > with > vested interest other than those whom they are > supposed to help to be managing the funds. Let the > government also publish the names of those > organizations, instead of dragging in the names of > the > entire CBO's. > > --- dehasnem@... wrote: > > > Tell them. To not give. Up hope > > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld > > > > Re: Kenya Aids: Misused > Funds: > > What Do We Tell the Sick? > > > > The HIV/AIDS fund is being misused because the > donor > > like to listen to what their ears what to hear > > whether > > it is the truth or not. In most case what they are > > told is not the truth. Most of those organizations > > were given money because they have mastered the > > donor > > language not because they have a program. I know > > that > > because I’m in the village though I stay in town. > > Believe me just as we have cyber café Pastors we > > have > > cyber CBOS and NGOS. They have lost touch with the > > reality therefore they move from workshop to > > workshop > > taking photos and signatures to give to the donor > > because that is what the donor want. They have no > > time > > to implement what they have learnt so they enjoy > the > > money while the sick continue to get sick. God > > forbid. > > > > Wait a second, did you read about the UNLIKELY > HOSTS > > AT A FOOD KIOSK IN BUSIA IN THE DAILY NATION! I > wise > > we have more of Ms , Ms Henn and Mr. Schulter > > they > > are practical. Don’t forget our Tom Obiero who is > > walking the streets and rural home touching the > life > > of the orphan with his limited resources. Yet he > > cannot access that money from the globe fund. No > > wander he can receive the latter from the orphans. > > He > > is with them. Not to mention Nyaranga. Oh Africa, > > Kenya why enjoy while others are dying. The money > is > > in the wrong hands. > > Okeyo > > > > > > --- Chifu <chifu2222@...> wrote: > > > > > COMMENTARY > > > > > > Misused funds: What do we tell the sick? > > > > > > Story by NYOKABI KAMAU > > > Publication Date: 4/6/2006 > > > > > > Speaking at the United States International > > > University in Kenya > > > recently, Prof Kihumbu Thairu said there were > more > > > people " eating " > > > from Aids than those dying from it. > > > > > > This statement has been proved right by the lack > > of > > > transparency we > > > see in many Aids organisations. They seem to > have > > > problems accounting > > > for the money they are supposed to have spent on > > > helping those who > > > need it. > > > > > > A deadline given to these organisations to > account > > > for the money they > > > received from the Global Fund lapsed recently. > > This > > > posed a lot of > > > answered questions about the validity of such > > > organisations. > > > > > > It is most unfortunate. Even as our people > > continue > > > dying for lack of > > > food, Aids drugs and correct information on the > > > epidemic, such > > > organisations continue operating. Aids drugs are > > > expiring because they > > > are not being distributed. > > > > > > There are many questions that bother one about > the > > > way Aids work has > > > been handled in this country. Instead of dealing > > > with serious > > > concerns, we cannot account for money that > should > > > have dealt with the > > > challenges. > > > > > > How can we ever explain the fact that, in 2006, > > only > > > less than 10 per > > > cent of Kenya's women know their HIV status and > > that > > > grandmothers, > > > aged, impoverished and failing, have become the > > last > > > resort of orphan > > > support? > > > > > > And how can we explain the fact that the > majority > > of > > > young girls and > > > boys still do not know how HIV is transmitted? > > > > > > How is it that laws against sexual violence and > > > marital rape and those > > > which embody property and inheritance rights are > > > still not a part of > > > Kenya's legislative fabric, a country most > ravaged > > > by Aids? > > > > > > We have signed the African protocol on women's > > > rights and the > > > Convention on the Elimination of Discrimination > > > Against Women. Yet we > > > continue to dishonour these conventions? > > > > > > Our women carry this country on their backs. > > > Uncompensated, they reel > > > under the burden of care. Yet we look on without > > > even acknowledging > > > the fact? > > > > > > What are we going to tell our children now > growing > > > up without parents > > > when so much could have been done to save the > > > parents for a little > > > longer if only money meant for them had been > used > > > well? > > > > > > A great deal remains to be done on Aids. This > does > > > not mean just > > > targeting those believed to be more at the risk > of > > > being infected. It > > > means targeting those seen as less vulnerable as > > > well. > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Hi Greof/Nyaranga, I am glad that so many people are seeing what I have been seeing. AIDS funds have been used to make people rich and not to support initiatives that are beneficials to the poor and those who are directly affected. What a shame that our leaders could stoop that to deny the sick their right to live!!! I am bitter not because my organization never received the funds, but because the funds are disbursed according to who is who in the board and how well one is connected. And as Mr. Nyaranga rightly put it, most of these CBO's does not exist to give out their reports. Geof great to receive from yoy. It has been along time since the AIDS Conference in India. My numbers are: 254-20-246961/247356. Mobile: 254-721-986320 --- Geoffrey Heaviside <gheaviside@...> wrote: > I just read your posting and tried to ring > you and all the numbers in > your signature panel are wrong. Can you please > update them for me. > > Of course while flawed grants are issued money will > never reach those for > whom it is intended. > > The problem is we don't have the community organised > to be able to make > better use of the money and expose the grant > decisions that lead to > corruption. > > I would love to work with you to strategise ways of > changing the funding > priorities. > > Geoffrey > > > > > Geoff Heaviside > HIV/AIDS Policy Consultant > Convenor - Brimbank Community Initiatives Inc > Secretary - International Centre for Health Equity > Inc > Member - Australasian Society for HIV Medicine Inc > Member - ILGA Brussels > P.O. Box 606 Sunshine 3020 > . Australia. > Ph: 0418 328 278 > Ph/Fax : (61 3) 9449 1856 > > or in India > Mr Geoff Heaviside > > Mobile : (91) 9840 097 178 > (SMS when not > in India) > > " The new century is not going to be new at all if we > offer only charity, > that palliative to satisfy the conscience and keep > the same old system of > haves and have-nots quietly contained. " > > > > > > Onyango Project Administrator Slums Information Development & Resource Centres(SIDAREC) P.O.BOX 9687 00300 TEL. 254-2 246961,247356, MIBILE: 0733-832231 NAIROBI,KENYA. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Hi Greof/Nyaranga, I am glad that so many people are seeing what I have been seeing. AIDS funds have been used to make people rich and not to support initiatives that are beneficials to the poor and those who are directly affected. What a shame that our leaders could stoop that to deny the sick their right to live!!! I am bitter not because my organization never received the funds, but because the funds are disbursed according to who is who in the board and how well one is connected. And as Mr. Nyaranga rightly put it, most of these CBO's does not exist to give out their reports. Geof great to receive from yoy. It has been along time since the AIDS Conference in India. My numbers are: 254-20-246961/247356. Mobile: 254-721-986320 --- Geoffrey Heaviside <gheaviside@...> wrote: > I just read your posting and tried to ring > you and all the numbers in > your signature panel are wrong. Can you please > update them for me. > > Of course while flawed grants are issued money will > never reach those for > whom it is intended. > > The problem is we don't have the community organised > to be able to make > better use of the money and expose the grant > decisions that lead to > corruption. > > I would love to work with you to strategise ways of > changing the funding > priorities. > > Geoffrey > > > > > Geoff Heaviside > HIV/AIDS Policy Consultant > Convenor - Brimbank Community Initiatives Inc > Secretary - International Centre for Health Equity > Inc > Member - Australasian Society for HIV Medicine Inc > Member - ILGA Brussels > P.O. Box 606 Sunshine 3020 > . Australia. > Ph: 0418 328 278 > Ph/Fax : (61 3) 9449 1856 > > or in India > Mr Geoff Heaviside > > Mobile : (91) 9840 097 178 > (SMS when not > in India) > > " The new century is not going to be new at all if we > offer only charity, > that palliative to satisfy the conscience and keep > the same old system of > haves and have-nots quietly contained. " > > > > > > Onyango Project Administrator Slums Information Development & Resource Centres(SIDAREC) P.O.BOX 9687 00300 TEL. 254-2 246961,247356, MIBILE: 0733-832231 NAIROBI,KENYA. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Chifu wa Malindi What do we tell the sick? We do to them what we do to the hungry in northern Kenya. We let them die and only act when we are shamed by the media. The rich in Kenya don't care for weak ones in the society. We have a Darwinian type of value. Bob-K --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Chifu wa Malindi What do we tell the sick? We do to them what we do to the hungry in northern Kenya. We let them die and only act when we are shamed by the media. The rich in Kenya don't care for weak ones in the society. We have a Darwinian type of value. Bob-K --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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