Re: NEED ADVICE – Tumor continues to grow

[Guest guest]

Hi:

The trouble with doctor's who treat patients like your father is that they

don't have to reveal to him (or you) how many previous patients they have

treated with similar type cancer and the results they achieved over a period of

time.

I believe before anyone is treated. A patient should have the right to know

(by law) this documented information before they are given chemo or radiation

or both to make a logical decision.

Alternative methods cannot reverse damage done by chemo or radiation

poisoning of the body.

Once the immune system is ravaged and destroyed by these toxins.

There is no turning back.

In my opinion. You can't do both.

This is the reason why a law is needed to allow a patient to know the results

of former patients by a doctor and hospital etc., before they make the

decision to be treated by them or not.

After all.

For most.

It is a matter of life or death.

I wish you the best.

Ciro

[Guest guest]

Hi:

The trouble with doctor's who treat patients like your father is that they

don't have to reveal to him (or you) how many previous patients they have

treated with similar type cancer and the results they achieved over a period of

time.

I believe before anyone is treated. A patient should have the right to know

(by law) this documented information before they are given chemo or radiation

or both to make a logical decision.

Alternative methods cannot reverse damage done by chemo or radiation

poisoning of the body.

Once the immune system is ravaged and destroyed by these toxins.

There is no turning back.

In my opinion. You can't do both.

This is the reason why a law is needed to allow a patient to know the results

of former patients by a doctor and hospital etc., before they make the

decision to be treated by them or not.

After all.

For most.

It is a matter of life or death.

I wish you the best.

Ciro

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/16/04 11:59:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ciro291@...

writes:

> I believe before anyone is treated. A patient should have the right to know

>

> (by law) this documented information before they are given chemo or

> radiation

> or both to make a logical decision.

Fat Chance!!! The AMA has everything sewed up so tight (no pun intended)

patients can never get the information they need. Furthermore, statistics are so

slanted that you can't even get correct general information. For instance, my

mother died from chemo and cancer but her death was likely listed as having

had a heart attack. I call this entire matter " The White Wall of Silence. "

(Good title for a book!)

>

>

> Alternative methods cannot reverse damage done by chemo or radiation

> poisoning of the body.

> Once the immune system is ravaged and destroyed by these toxins.

> There is no turning back.

>

I thought that one could heal somewhat from damage by taking nutrients and

cleansing?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/16/04 11:59:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ciro291@...

writes:

> I believe before anyone is treated. A patient should have the right to know

>

> (by law) this documented information before they are given chemo or

> radiation

> or both to make a logical decision.

Fat Chance!!! The AMA has everything sewed up so tight (no pun intended)

patients can never get the information they need. Furthermore, statistics are so

slanted that you can't even get correct general information. For instance, my

mother died from chemo and cancer but her death was likely listed as having

had a heart attack. I call this entire matter " The White Wall of Silence. "

(Good title for a book!)

>

>

> Alternative methods cannot reverse damage done by chemo or radiation

> poisoning of the body.

> Once the immune system is ravaged and destroyed by these toxins.

> There is no turning back.

>

I thought that one could heal somewhat from damage by taking nutrients and

cleansing?

[Guest guest]

An herbal genious from Piedmont Alabama has been incredabley successful in

some drastic cases somewhat as/what you describe.

If you can - give Browns Herb shop a call and ask for Gerald

tel 256 447-8372

Winsor

[Guest guest]

An herbal genious from Piedmont Alabama has been incredabley successful in

some drastic cases somewhat as/what you describe.

If you can - give Browns Herb shop a call and ask for Gerald

tel 256 447-8372

Winsor

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Do you suppose he could help me with this irritating rosacea?

In a message dated 1/17/04 11:25:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, wwmix@...

writes:

> An herbal genious from Piedmont Alabama has been incredabley successful in

> some drastic cases somewhat as/what you describe.

>

> If you can - give Browns Herb shop a call and ask for Gerald

>

> tel 256 447-8372

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Do you suppose he could help me with this irritating rosacea?

In a message dated 1/17/04 11:25:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, wwmix@...

writes:

> An herbal genious from Piedmont Alabama has been incredabley successful in

> some drastic cases somewhat as/what you describe.

>

> If you can - give Browns Herb shop a call and ask for Gerald

>

> tel 256 447-8372

>

[Guest guest]

Ciro,

We asked the doctor about the center's experience and he said they

had little experience with cholangiocarcinoma (bile duct cancer).

It is very rare. We couldn't find any other doctor that had treated

patients with the same illness. Bile duct cancer is a close cousin

to pancreatic cancer, so they are using chemo drugs normally used

for pancreatic cancer. We have to decide soon if we will abandon

chemo altogether.

Thanks

Jeff

> Hi:

> The trouble with doctor's who treat patients like your father is

that they

> don't have to reveal to him (or you) how many previous patients

they have

> treated with similar type cancer and the results they achieved

over a period of

> time.

>

> I believe before anyone is treated. A patient should have the

right to know

> (by law) this documented information before they are given chemo

or radiation

> or both to make a logical decision.

>

> Alternative methods cannot reverse damage done by chemo or

radiation

> poisoning of the body.

>

> Once the immune system is ravaged and destroyed by these toxins.

> There is no turning back.

>

> In my opinion. You can't do both.

>

> This is the reason why a law is needed to allow a patient to know

the results

> of former patients by a doctor and hospital etc., before they make

the

> decision to be treated by them or not.

>

> After all.

> For most.

> It is a matter of life or death.

>

> I wish you the best.

> Ciro

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ciro,

We asked the doctor about the center's experience and he said they

had little experience with cholangiocarcinoma (bile duct cancer).

It is very rare. We couldn't find any other doctor that had treated

patients with the same illness. Bile duct cancer is a close cousin

to pancreatic cancer, so they are using chemo drugs normally used

for pancreatic cancer. We have to decide soon if we will abandon

chemo altogether.

Thanks

Jeff

> Hi:

> The trouble with doctor's who treat patients like your father is

that they

> don't have to reveal to him (or you) how many previous patients

they have

> treated with similar type cancer and the results they achieved

over a period of

> time.

>

> I believe before anyone is treated. A patient should have the

right to know

> (by law) this documented information before they are given chemo

or radiation

> or both to make a logical decision.

>

> Alternative methods cannot reverse damage done by chemo or

radiation

> poisoning of the body.

>

> Once the immune system is ravaged and destroyed by these toxins.

> There is no turning back.

>

> In my opinion. You can't do both.

>

> This is the reason why a law is needed to allow a patient to know

the results

> of former patients by a doctor and hospital etc., before they make

the

> decision to be treated by them or not.

>

> After all.

> For most.

> It is a matter of life or death.

>

> I wish you the best.

> Ciro

>

>

>