Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 In a message dated 1/30/04 1:49:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, TVA12082208@... writes: > , one of the possible causes might be: you have some sort of > parasite, > bacteria and viri in your body, that produce ammonia, a human body does not > do this. > What do I do about this? I don't drink and I don't have hepatitus so I thought ...liver cancer?? What do you think about taking milk thistle? How do I find out if I have parasites in the liver (flukes perhaps?) Thanks for your suggestions. How much of each item do I take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 In a message dated 1/30/04 1:49:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, TVA12082208@... writes: > , one of the possible causes might be: you have some sort of > parasite, > bacteria and viri in your body, that produce ammonia, a human body does not > do this. > What do I do about this? I don't drink and I don't have hepatitus so I thought ...liver cancer?? What do you think about taking milk thistle? How do I find out if I have parasites in the liver (flukes perhaps?) Thanks for your suggestions. How much of each item do I take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 In einer eMail vom 31.01.04 00:55:54 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt szukidavis@...: > How do I find out if I have parasites in the liver (flukes perhaps?) > > , I always plead for proper diagnostics in such a case. Try to find someone with technical equipment for doing RIFE and Dr. diagnostics. Then you know for sure what you are dealing with. Before treatment and elimination of the cause, do anything to strengthen liver and kidney functioning. I am sure someone on this list will have an address where to do this kind of diagnostics. Warm regards to your side! Katharina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 In einer eMail vom 31.01.04 00:55:54 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt szukidavis@...: > How do I find out if I have parasites in the liver (flukes perhaps?) > > , I always plead for proper diagnostics in such a case. Try to find someone with technical equipment for doing RIFE and Dr. diagnostics. Then you know for sure what you are dealing with. Before treatment and elimination of the cause, do anything to strengthen liver and kidney functioning. I am sure someone on this list will have an address where to do this kind of diagnostics. Warm regards to your side! Katharina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Ammonia is a byproduct of protein metabolizm and some other processes. See http://www.ceri.com/downs3.htm for verification of this. Gut bacteria is also a major source. There is a good paper on ammonia metabolism at http://www.gravitywaves.com/chemistry/CHE452/12_ProteinNH3%20Met.htm . They have some suggestions for reducing ammonia such as reduced protein intake (temporarily I hope). With the right enzymes it is converted to harmess or beneficial urea. For this, arginine can be used. Ornithine helps carry the urea away. Lactulose, carnitine, citrulline, fiber, and anything that supports liver detox can be considered. Antibiotics are used to reduce gut flora. Possibly good flora would work. Phase 1 and 2 liver detox can be supported with silymarin and/or Biocleanse from Biogenesis. Dick http://www.royalrife.com . New email - drloyd@... . To buy or sell used equipment, check out http://www.royalrife.com/board . Post your recovery story using Rife therapies at http://www.royalrife.com/board .. Re: Ammonia levels too high In a message dated 1/30/04 1:49:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, TVA12082208@... writes: > Are you sleepless at night or do you wake up at four and are wide awake? > This > is also seen with ammonia too high. Sniffing ammonia will wake up ladies who > > fainted. > I have terrible insomnia. I can't fall asleep without the TV on and then all the flashing pictures are disturbing to my sleep so I keep waking up and then can't fall asleep again unless I am watching a movie. I am very tired all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Ammonia is a byproduct of protein metabolizm and some other processes. See http://www.ceri.com/downs3.htm for verification of this. Gut bacteria is also a major source. There is a good paper on ammonia metabolism at http://www.gravitywaves.com/chemistry/CHE452/12_ProteinNH3%20Met.htm . They have some suggestions for reducing ammonia such as reduced protein intake (temporarily I hope). With the right enzymes it is converted to harmess or beneficial urea. For this, arginine can be used. Ornithine helps carry the urea away. Lactulose, carnitine, citrulline, fiber, and anything that supports liver detox can be considered. Antibiotics are used to reduce gut flora. Possibly good flora would work. Phase 1 and 2 liver detox can be supported with silymarin and/or Biocleanse from Biogenesis. Dick http://www.royalrife.com . New email - drloyd@... . To buy or sell used equipment, check out http://www.royalrife.com/board . Post your recovery story using Rife therapies at http://www.royalrife.com/board .. Re: Ammonia levels too high In a message dated 1/30/04 1:49:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, TVA12082208@... writes: > Are you sleepless at night or do you wake up at four and are wide awake? > This > is also seen with ammonia too high. Sniffing ammonia will wake up ladies who > > fainted. > I have terrible insomnia. I can't fall asleep without the TV on and then all the flashing pictures are disturbing to my sleep so I keep waking up and then can't fall asleep again unless I am watching a movie. I am very tired all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 12:11:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > Lactulose, carnitine, citrulline, fiber, and anything that supports liver > detox can be considered. Antibiotics are used to reduce gut flora. Possibly > good flora would work. > > Phase 1 and 2 liver detox can be supported with silymarin and/or Biocleanse > from Biogenesis. > > The doctor gve me Lactulose which I am nervous about taking because I already have irritable bowel syndrome. Whould silymarin be better than milk thistle? How much lactulose should I take. Why does one need to have diarrhea to get the ammonia out? The doctor gave me Cephalexin (Keflex) to try for my face rash. Would this be helpful in case there is stomach bacteria that is making the ammonia level so high? I was afraid to start taking it after I heard about the ammonia. Please advise. Thanks< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 12:11:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > Lactulose, carnitine, citrulline, fiber, and anything that supports liver > detox can be considered. Antibiotics are used to reduce gut flora. Possibly > good flora would work. > > Phase 1 and 2 liver detox can be supported with silymarin and/or Biocleanse > from Biogenesis. > > The doctor gve me Lactulose which I am nervous about taking because I already have irritable bowel syndrome. Whould silymarin be better than milk thistle? How much lactulose should I take. Why does one need to have diarrhea to get the ammonia out? The doctor gave me Cephalexin (Keflex) to try for my face rash. Would this be helpful in case there is stomach bacteria that is making the ammonia level so high? I was afraid to start taking it after I heard about the ammonia. Please advise. Thanks< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 12:11:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > arginine can be used. Ornithine I just got some. Do I take one in am and one in pm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 12:11:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > arginine can be used. Ornithine I just got some. Do I take one in am and one in pm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/30/04 1:49:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, TVA12082208@... writes: > So, if my hypothesis is also yours, try ornithin and arginin. > Katharina, I got both items today. I will start the ornithin this evening. How soon before bed do I take it? Does it have to be on an empty stomach? Please advise and thanks for all your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/30/04 1:49:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, TVA12082208@... writes: > So, if my hypothesis is also yours, try ornithin and arginin. > Katharina, I got both items today. I will start the ornithin this evening. How soon before bed do I take it? Does it have to be on an empty stomach? Please advise and thanks for all your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In einer eMail vom 31.01.04 23:33:12 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt szukidavis@...: > > In a message dated 1/30/04 1:49:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, > TVA12082208@... writes: > > > > So, if my hypothesis is also yours, try ornithin and arginin. > > > > Katharina, > I got both items today. I will start the ornithin this evening. How soon > before bed do I take it? Does it have to be on an empty stomach? > Please advise and thanks for all your help. > > > > , it is recommended to take ornithin in the evening, thirty minutes before your bedtime, and arginin in the morning. The two will bind the ammonia. Best to you, Katharina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In einer eMail vom 31.01.04 23:33:12 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit schreibt szukidavis@...: > > In a message dated 1/30/04 1:49:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, > TVA12082208@... writes: > > > > So, if my hypothesis is also yours, try ornithin and arginin. > > > > Katharina, > I got both items today. I will start the ornithin this evening. How soon > before bed do I take it? Does it have to be on an empty stomach? > Please advise and thanks for all your help. > > > > , it is recommended to take ornithin in the evening, thirty minutes before your bedtime, and arginin in the morning. The two will bind the ammonia. Best to you, Katharina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 11:17:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > Lactulose is a non-toxic, non-metabolizable sugar that can reduce ammonia > levels. It is used to test for leaky gut syndrome. > I just started taking 3 Tbs a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 11:17:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > Lactulose is a non-toxic, non-metabolizable sugar that can reduce ammonia > levels. It is used to test for leaky gut syndrome. > How does it test for that? I just started taking it and already I am filled with gas and loosey goosey. Please advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 11:17:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > Lactulose is a non-toxic, non-metabolizable sugar that can reduce ammonia > levels. It is used to test for leaky gut syndrome. > I just started taking 3 Tbs a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 11:17:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > Lactulose is a non-toxic, non-metabolizable sugar that can reduce ammonia > levels. It is used to test for leaky gut syndrome. > How does it test for that? I just started taking it and already I am filled with gas and loosey goosey. Please advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 9:19:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > mannitol what is that and where is it found? is this the time to be taking anything extra (worried about taxing my liver). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 9:19:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > mannitol what is that and where is it found? is this the time to be taking anything extra (worried about taxing my liver). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 9:43:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > It is urgent to reduce the ammonia level so I would keep at it if at all > possible. > I know and I will. What about Citrodex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 In a message dated 1/31/04 9:43:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > It is urgent to reduce the ammonia level so I would keep at it if at all > possible. > I know and I will. What about Citrodex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 For leaky gut, a dose of lactulose and mannitol is given. A normal gut will pass a lot of mannitol but little lactulose. If they are reversed, there is leaky gut with poor absorption... Dick http://www.royalrife.com . New email - drloyd@... . To buy or sell used equipment, check out http://www.royalrife.com/board . Post your recovery story using Rife therapies at http://www.royalrife.com/board .. Re: Ammonia levels too high In a message dated 1/31/04 11:17:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > Lactulose is a non-toxic, non-metabolizable sugar that can reduce ammonia > levels. It is used to test for leaky gut syndrome. > How does it test for that? I just started taking it and already I am filled with gas and loosey goosey. Please advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 For leaky gut, a dose of lactulose and mannitol is given. A normal gut will pass a lot of mannitol but little lactulose. If they are reversed, there is leaky gut with poor absorption... Dick http://www.royalrife.com . New email - drloyd@... . To buy or sell used equipment, check out http://www.royalrife.com/board . Post your recovery story using Rife therapies at http://www.royalrife.com/board .. Re: Ammonia levels too high In a message dated 1/31/04 11:17:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > Lactulose is a non-toxic, non-metabolizable sugar that can reduce ammonia > levels. It is used to test for leaky gut syndrome. > How does it test for that? I just started taking it and already I am filled with gas and loosey goosey. Please advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2004 Report Share Posted January 31, 2004 At that dose, gas and loose stools are not a surprise. It is urgent to reduce the ammonia level so I would keep at it if at all possible. Dick http://www.royalrife.com . New email - drloyd@... . To buy or sell used equipment, check out http://www.royalrife.com/board . Post your recovery story using Rife therapies at http://www.royalrife.com/board .. Re: Ammonia levels too high In a message dated 1/31/04 11:17:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, drloyd@... writes: > Lactulose is a non-toxic, non-metabolizable sugar that can reduce ammonia > levels. It is used to test for leaky gut syndrome. > I just started taking 3 Tbs a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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