Re: milk, dairy; flaxoil & cottage cheese (FSO/CC)

November 14, 2003

Hi Darryl,

Sorry, but I have to disagree w/you again.

Also, I've cut & pasted material from previous posts of mine, so my apologies

for the redundancies.

From: Darryl Milligan <dkmill@...>

> I recommend that everyone get off dairy.

> For those that want to know why visit:

> http://www.notmilk.com/

Cohen has a lot of great information about the many negatives aspects of

dairy. He also states tons of falsehoods, partial truths, and extremely

one-sided misrepresentations and overgeneralizations, as do many PRO-milk people

(and people w/extreme views on other issues). I suspect that with such

arguments, one could make almost any food group look terrible (or like the

miracle cure for all disease).

For a different perspective,

http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html

http://www.westonaprice.org/transition/dairy.html

http://www.westonaprice.org

The forthcoming book _The Untold Story of Milk_ by Ron Schmid, ND discusses the

profound nutritional and healing properties of raw milk, including recoveries

from cancer and diabetes, and reports of adults living healthily for years

reportedly consuming nothing but raw milk.

From: <szukidavis@...>

> People are using cottage cheese and flax seed oil [FSO/CC] to fight cancer,

including

> breast cancer sometimes with very positive results.

That's an understatement.

> I don't understand how this can be if cottage cheese can cause the growth of

cancer cells to

> accelerate?

Apparently the positive aspects of the FSO/CC far outweigh the CC's negative

qualities.

Cottage cheese & butter contain

butyrates/butyric acid, which promote differentiation in leukemias, lymphomas,

myeloma, melanoma, papillomas, stomach, colorectal cancer, & advanced

metastatic neuroblastoma.

I think the harmful effects of dairy FAT outweight its benefits for most cancer

patients (other than lowfat cottage cheese or yogurt mixed w/FSO for cancer

patients in general and possibly organic butter for people w/the cancers listed

above). And my impression is that most holistic cancer practitioners and clinics

discourage or prohibit dairy fat accordingly.

It's my understanding that all dairy has components that are harmful to cancer

patients (and others). I would avoid dairy FAT if I had cancer because of the

research (e.g., Boik) and clinical experience (e.g., Gerson) that dairy fat, as

well as saturated fat in general (and to a greater extent Omega 6, including

arachadonic acid), promote

the growth of already-existing tumors (even though they may not cause cancer).

My impression is that any consumption of fresh,

high-quality, nonrancid flaxseed oil (FSO) is

somewhat beneficial to most people w/cancer, but

it's MUCH more effective if mixed w/sulfur-bearing

amino acids (SAAs). On the flaxseedoil &

flaxseedoil2 groups (which I've belonged to

for the past couple yrs), there've been dozens of

reports of complete remissions from cancer,

including breast cancer and including many

advanced aggressive cancers (some post-chemo &

post-radiation), solely or primarily from using

FSO mixed thoroughly w/cottage cheese (FSO/CC).

For biochemical reasons that I don't understand,

organic, low-fat CC and quark are clearly the best

things to mix FSO with.

Plain (no fruit), organic low-fat yogurt and kefir

are probably 2nd & 3rd best (respectively). (CC,

quark, and yogurt are have been used much more

frequently than any of the other mixers). I would

definitely use 1 of the above unless I had an

unusually strong reason for not consuming dairy

(e.g., allergy).

Companion Nutrients is the best vegan mixer (from

www.naturesdistributors.com/BioSan%20products/co

800-624-7114). I've heard to use 1 capsule per

tablespoon of flax seed oil. " I would use one

capsule per tablespoon of oil [between/before

meals]. " Jack suggests taking a flax oil combination

product, each tablespoon of which contains [300mg

CoQ10, 300 IU vit. E, & 300mg L-cysteine]...1

tablespoon per 50 pounds of body weight. " (cited

in Diamond, W. , W. Lee Cowden, & Burton Goldberg (1997). An Alternative

Medicine Definitive Guide to Cancer. Tiburon, CA: Future Medicine Publishing.

(alternativemedicine.com)

I think that any negative aspects of any of the

above (even nonorganic dairy) are FAR outweighed

by the cancer-healing effects of this mixture. I

don't know any other food or food combination (except perhaps asparagus)

as effective in healing cancer as FSO/CC.

From what I've read, it's reportedly best to:

Consume FSO/CC on empty stomach. Do NOT take it if

you're diabetic unless instructed by physician.

Tell your doctor that you're taking it. It's

reportedly helpful to take vit. E with it. The

recommended dosage ranges from about 1 to 6

tablespoons (tbsp) of FSO, MIXED w/about 1/4 cup

of CC for each tbsp. of FSO. I'd begin w/1-2 tbsp

and gradually increase my dosage. Drop back to 1

tablespoon (mixed with 1/4 cup CC) per 100 pounds

of body weight after a few months.

If using yogurt, use only plain (or vanilla)

yogurt, preferably low-fat (but not non-fat).

" Fruited yogurt is useless...After the yogurt &

FSO are mixed, fruit [but NOT pineapple, papaya,

or kiwi] may be added. " 3 times as much yogurt is

needed, compared w/the amount of cottage cheese

that would be needed.

To make it taste better, some people add berries,

peaches, or other fruit; granola; Stevia; or a

little honey to the FSO/CC mixture.

For more info,

www.whale.to/cancer/budwig.html

www.cancure.org/budwig_diet.htm

www.beckwithfamily.com/usage.html

(or http://home.usit.net/~spinner/usage.html)

www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Nutrition/turner60.htm

http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html

http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html (contains

additional links toward bottom of page)

http://educate-yourself.org/fc/dukestudyignorsbudwigwork15aug01.shtml

www.getandstaywell.com/archive28.shtml

It's also discussed also in Albert E. 's " excellent " book _The Cancer

Answer_ and his video " The Immune System "

and most extensively in

Fischer, L. (1994). How to Fight Cancer

and Win: Scientific Guidelines and Documented

Facts for the Successful Treatment and Prevention

of Cancer and Other Related Health Problems (2nd

ed.). Canfield, OH: Fischer.

The listservs flaxseedoil2 and

flaxseedoil discuss her diet extensively.

If had I cancer, I'd certainly eat flax seed oil mixed w/organic

cottage cheese (or yogurt) (FSO/CC) but would probably avoid all other dairy. I

think that organic, cultured dairy products are fine for most people w/o cancer.

For people w/cancer who choose to consume additional dairy, I think it's safest

to stick w/organic, nonfat, cultured dairy products and perhaps grass-fed milk.

Best,

Leonard

November 14, 2003

Hi Darryl,

Sorry, but I have to disagree w/you again.

Also, I've cut & pasted material from previous posts of mine, so my apologies

for the redundancies.

From: Darryl Milligan <dkmill@...>

> I recommend that everyone get off dairy.

> For those that want to know why visit:

> http://www.notmilk.com/

Cohen has a lot of great information about the many negatives aspects of

dairy. He also states tons of falsehoods, partial truths, and extremely

one-sided misrepresentations and overgeneralizations, as do many PRO-milk people

(and people w/extreme views on other issues). I suspect that with such

arguments, one could make almost any food group look terrible (or like the

miracle cure for all disease).

For a different perspective,

http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html

http://www.westonaprice.org/transition/dairy.html

http://www.westonaprice.org

The forthcoming book _The Untold Story of Milk_ by Ron Schmid, ND discusses the

profound nutritional and healing properties of raw milk, including recoveries

from cancer and diabetes, and reports of adults living healthily for years

reportedly consuming nothing but raw milk.

From: <szukidavis@...>

> People are using cottage cheese and flax seed oil [FSO/CC] to fight cancer,

including

> breast cancer sometimes with very positive results.

That's an understatement.

> I don't understand how this can be if cottage cheese can cause the growth of

cancer cells to

> accelerate?

Apparently the positive aspects of the FSO/CC far outweigh the CC's negative

qualities.

Cottage cheese & butter contain

butyrates/butyric acid, which promote differentiation in leukemias, lymphomas,

myeloma, melanoma, papillomas, stomach, colorectal cancer, & advanced

metastatic neuroblastoma.

I think the harmful effects of dairy FAT outweight its benefits for most cancer

patients (other than lowfat cottage cheese or yogurt mixed w/FSO for cancer

patients in general and possibly organic butter for people w/the cancers listed

above). And my impression is that most holistic cancer practitioners and clinics

discourage or prohibit dairy fat accordingly.

It's my understanding that all dairy has components that are harmful to cancer

patients (and others). I would avoid dairy FAT if I had cancer because of the

research (e.g., Boik) and clinical experience (e.g., Gerson) that dairy fat, as

well as saturated fat in general (and to a greater extent Omega 6, including

arachadonic acid), promote

the growth of already-existing tumors (even though they may not cause cancer).

My impression is that any consumption of fresh,

high-quality, nonrancid flaxseed oil (FSO) is

somewhat beneficial to most people w/cancer, but

it's MUCH more effective if mixed w/sulfur-bearing

amino acids (SAAs). On the flaxseedoil &

flaxseedoil2 groups (which I've belonged to

for the past couple yrs), there've been dozens of

reports of complete remissions from cancer,

including breast cancer and including many

advanced aggressive cancers (some post-chemo &

post-radiation), solely or primarily from using

FSO mixed thoroughly w/cottage cheese (FSO/CC).

For biochemical reasons that I don't understand,

organic, low-fat CC and quark are clearly the best

things to mix FSO with.

Plain (no fruit), organic low-fat yogurt and kefir

are probably 2nd & 3rd best (respectively). (CC,

quark, and yogurt are have been used much more

frequently than any of the other mixers). I would

definitely use 1 of the above unless I had an

unusually strong reason for not consuming dairy

(e.g., allergy).

Companion Nutrients is the best vegan mixer (from

www.naturesdistributors.com/BioSan%20products/co

800-624-7114). I've heard to use 1 capsule per

tablespoon of flax seed oil. " I would use one

capsule per tablespoon of oil [between/before

meals]. " Jack suggests taking a flax oil combination

product, each tablespoon of which contains [300mg

CoQ10, 300 IU vit. E, & 300mg L-cysteine]...1

tablespoon per 50 pounds of body weight. " (cited

in Diamond, W. , W. Lee Cowden, & Burton Goldberg (1997). An Alternative

Medicine Definitive Guide to Cancer. Tiburon, CA: Future Medicine Publishing.

(alternativemedicine.com)

I think that any negative aspects of any of the

above (even nonorganic dairy) are FAR outweighed

by the cancer-healing effects of this mixture. I

don't know any other food or food combination (except perhaps asparagus)

as effective in healing cancer as FSO/CC.

From what I've read, it's reportedly best to:

Consume FSO/CC on empty stomach. Do NOT take it if

you're diabetic unless instructed by physician.

Tell your doctor that you're taking it. It's

reportedly helpful to take vit. E with it. The

recommended dosage ranges from about 1 to 6

tablespoons (tbsp) of FSO, MIXED w/about 1/4 cup

of CC for each tbsp. of FSO. I'd begin w/1-2 tbsp

and gradually increase my dosage. Drop back to 1

tablespoon (mixed with 1/4 cup CC) per 100 pounds

of body weight after a few months.

If using yogurt, use only plain (or vanilla)

yogurt, preferably low-fat (but not non-fat).

" Fruited yogurt is useless...After the yogurt &

FSO are mixed, fruit [but NOT pineapple, papaya,

or kiwi] may be added. " 3 times as much yogurt is

needed, compared w/the amount of cottage cheese

that would be needed.

To make it taste better, some people add berries,

peaches, or other fruit; granola; Stevia; or a

little honey to the FSO/CC mixture.

For more info,

www.whale.to/cancer/budwig.html

www.cancure.org/budwig_diet.htm

www.beckwithfamily.com/usage.html

(or http://home.usit.net/~spinner/usage.html)

www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Nutrition/turner60.htm

http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html

http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html (contains

additional links toward bottom of page)

http://educate-yourself.org/fc/dukestudyignorsbudwigwork15aug01.shtml

www.getandstaywell.com/archive28.shtml

It's also discussed also in Albert E. 's " excellent " book _The Cancer

Answer_ and his video " The Immune System "

and most extensively in

Fischer, L. (1994). How to Fight Cancer

and Win: Scientific Guidelines and Documented

Facts for the Successful Treatment and Prevention

of Cancer and Other Related Health Problems (2nd

ed.). Canfield, OH: Fischer.

The listservs flaxseedoil2 and

flaxseedoil discuss her diet extensively.

If had I cancer, I'd certainly eat flax seed oil mixed w/organic

cottage cheese (or yogurt) (FSO/CC) but would probably avoid all other dairy. I

think that organic, cultured dairy products are fine for most people w/o cancer.

For people w/cancer who choose to consume additional dairy, I think it's safest

to stick w/organic, nonfat, cultured dairy products and perhaps grass-fed milk.

Best,

Leonard

November 14, 2003

Leonard,

>Do NOT take it if

>you're diabetic unless instructed by physician.

Leonard, could you please explain why that is?

Thanks,

Gubi

Re: milk, dairy; flaxoil & cottage cheese (FSO/CC)

> Hi Darryl,

> Sorry, but I have to disagree w/you again.

> Also, I've cut & pasted material from previous posts of mine, so my

apologies

> for the redundancies.

> From: Darryl Milligan <dkmill@...>

> > I recommend that everyone get off dairy.

> > For those that want to know why visit:

> > http://www.notmilk.com/

> Cohen has a lot of great information about the many negatives

aspects of

> dairy. He also states tons of falsehoods, partial truths, and extremely

> one-sided misrepresentations and overgeneralizations, as do many PRO-milk

people

> (and people w/extreme views on other issues). I suspect that with such

> arguments, one could make almost any food group look terrible (or like the

> miracle cure for all disease).

>

> For a different perspective,

> http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html

> http://www.westonaprice.org/transition/dairy.html

> http://www.westonaprice.org

> The forthcoming book _The Untold Story of Milk_ by Ron Schmid, ND

discusses the

> profound nutritional and healing properties of raw milk, including

recoveries

> from cancer and diabetes, and reports of adults living healthily for years

> reportedly consuming nothing but raw milk.

>

> From: <szukidavis@...>

> > People are using cottage cheese and flax seed oil [FSO/CC] to fight

cancer,

> including

> > breast cancer sometimes with very positive results.

> That's an understatement.

>

> > I don't understand how this can be if cottage cheese can cause the

growth of

> cancer cells to

> > accelerate?

> Apparently the positive aspects of the FSO/CC far outweigh the CC's

negative

> qualities.

>

> Cottage cheese & butter contain

> butyrates/butyric acid, which promote differentiation in leukemias,

lymphomas,

> myeloma, melanoma, papillomas, stomach, colorectal cancer, & advanced

> metastatic neuroblastoma.

>

> I think the harmful effects of dairy FAT outweight its benefits for most

cancer

> patients (other than lowfat cottage cheese or yogurt mixed w/FSO for

cancer

> patients in general and possibly organic butter for people w/the cancers

listed

> above). And my impression is that most holistic cancer practitioners and

clinics

> discourage or prohibit dairy fat accordingly.

>

> It's my understanding that all dairy has components that are harmful to

cancer

> patients (and others). I would avoid dairy FAT if I had cancer because of

the

> research (e.g., Boik) and clinical experience (e.g., Gerson) that dairy

fat, as

> well as saturated fat in general (and to a greater extent Omega 6,

including

> arachadonic acid), promote

> the growth of already-existing tumors (even though they may not cause

cancer).

>

> My impression is that any consumption of fresh,

> high-quality, nonrancid flaxseed oil (FSO) is

> somewhat beneficial to most people w/cancer, but

> it's MUCH more effective if mixed w/sulfur-bearing

> amino acids (SAAs). On the flaxseedoil &

> flaxseedoil2 groups (which I've belonged to

> for the past couple yrs), there've been dozens of

> reports of complete remissions from cancer,

> including breast cancer and including many

> advanced aggressive cancers (some post-chemo &

> post-radiation), solely or primarily from using

> FSO mixed thoroughly w/cottage cheese (FSO/CC).

>

> For biochemical reasons that I don't understand,

> organic, low-fat CC and quark are clearly the best

> things to mix FSO with.

> Plain (no fruit), organic low-fat yogurt and kefir

> are probably 2nd & 3rd best (respectively). (CC,

> quark, and yogurt are have been used much more

> frequently than any of the other mixers). I would

> definitely use 1 of the above unless I had an

> unusually strong reason for not consuming dairy

> (e.g., allergy).

>

> Companion Nutrients is the best vegan mixer (from

> www.naturesdistributors.com/BioSan%20products/co

> 800-624-7114). I've heard to use 1 capsule per

> tablespoon of flax seed oil. " I would use one

> capsule per tablespoon of oil [between/before

> meals]. " Jack suggests taking a flax oil combination

> product, each tablespoon of which contains [300mg

> CoQ10, 300 IU vit. E, & 300mg L-cysteine]...1

> tablespoon per 50 pounds of body weight. " (cited

> in Diamond, W. , W. Lee Cowden, & Burton Goldberg (1997). An

Alternative

> Medicine Definitive Guide to Cancer. Tiburon, CA: Future Medicine

Publishing.

> (alternativemedicine.com)

>

> I think that any negative aspects of any of the

> above (even nonorganic dairy) are FAR outweighed

> by the cancer-healing effects of this mixture. I

> don't know any other food or food combination (except perhaps asparagus)

> as effective in healing cancer as FSO/CC.

>

> From what I've read, it's reportedly best to:

> Consume FSO/CC on empty stomach. Do NOT take it if

> you're diabetic unless instructed by physician.

> Tell your doctor that you're taking it. It's

> reportedly helpful to take vit. E with it. The

> recommended dosage ranges from about 1 to 6

> tablespoons (tbsp) of FSO, MIXED w/about 1/4 cup

> of CC for each tbsp. of FSO. I'd begin w/1-2 tbsp

> and gradually increase my dosage. Drop back to 1

> tablespoon (mixed with 1/4 cup CC) per 100 pounds

> of body weight after a few months.

>

> If using yogurt, use only plain (or vanilla)

> yogurt, preferably low-fat (but not non-fat).

> " Fruited yogurt is useless...After the yogurt &

> FSO are mixed, fruit [but NOT pineapple, papaya,

> or kiwi] may be added. " 3 times as much yogurt is

> needed, compared w/the amount of cottage cheese

> that would be needed.

> To make it taste better, some people add berries,

> peaches, or other fruit; granola; Stevia; or a

> little honey to the FSO/CC mixture.

>

> For more info,

> www.whale.to/cancer/budwig.html

> www.cancure.org/budwig_diet.htm

> www.beckwithfamily.com/usage.html

> (or http://home.usit.net/~spinner/usage.html)

> www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Nutrition/turner60.htm

> http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html

(contains

> additional links toward bottom of page)

> http://educate-yourself.org/fc/dukestudyignorsbudwigwork15aug01.shtml

> www.getandstaywell.com/archive28.shtml

> It's also discussed also in Albert E. 's " excellent " book _The

Cancer

> Answer_ and his video " The Immune System "

> and most extensively in

> Fischer, L. (1994). How to Fight Cancer

> and Win: Scientific Guidelines and Documented

> Facts for the Successful Treatment and Prevention

> of Cancer and Other Related Health Problems (2nd

> ed.). Canfield, OH: Fischer.

>

> The listservs flaxseedoil2 and

> flaxseedoil discuss her diet extensively.

>

> If had I cancer, I'd certainly eat flax seed oil mixed w/organic

> cottage cheese (or yogurt) (FSO/CC) but would probably avoid all other

dairy. I

> think that organic, cultured dairy products are fine for most people w/o

cancer.

>

> For people w/cancer who choose to consume additional dairy, I think it's

safest

> to stick w/organic, nonfat, cultured dairy products and perhaps grass-fed

milk.

>

> Best,

> Leonard

>

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November 14, 2003

Leonard,

>Do NOT take it if

>you're diabetic unless instructed by physician.

Leonard, could you please explain why that is?

Thanks,

Gubi

Re: milk, dairy; flaxoil & cottage cheese (FSO/CC)

> Hi Darryl,

> Sorry, but I have to disagree w/you again.

> Also, I've cut & pasted material from previous posts of mine, so my

apologies

> for the redundancies.

> From: Darryl Milligan <dkmill@...>

> > I recommend that everyone get off dairy.

> > For those that want to know why visit:

> > http://www.notmilk.com/

> Cohen has a lot of great information about the many negatives

aspects of

> dairy. He also states tons of falsehoods, partial truths, and extremely

> one-sided misrepresentations and overgeneralizations, as do many PRO-milk

people

> (and people w/extreme views on other issues). I suspect that with such

> arguments, one could make almost any food group look terrible (or like the

> miracle cure for all disease).

>

> For a different perspective,

> http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html

> http://www.westonaprice.org/transition/dairy.html

> http://www.westonaprice.org

> The forthcoming book _The Untold Story of Milk_ by Ron Schmid, ND

discusses the

> profound nutritional and healing properties of raw milk, including

recoveries

> from cancer and diabetes, and reports of adults living healthily for years

> reportedly consuming nothing but raw milk.

>

> From: <szukidavis@...>

> > People are using cottage cheese and flax seed oil [FSO/CC] to fight

cancer,

> including

> > breast cancer sometimes with very positive results.

> That's an understatement.

>

> > I don't understand how this can be if cottage cheese can cause the

growth of

> cancer cells to

> > accelerate?

> Apparently the positive aspects of the FSO/CC far outweigh the CC's

negative

> qualities.

>

> Cottage cheese & butter contain

> butyrates/butyric acid, which promote differentiation in leukemias,

lymphomas,

> myeloma, melanoma, papillomas, stomach, colorectal cancer, & advanced

> metastatic neuroblastoma.

>

> I think the harmful effects of dairy FAT outweight its benefits for most

cancer

> patients (other than lowfat cottage cheese or yogurt mixed w/FSO for

cancer

> patients in general and possibly organic butter for people w/the cancers

listed

> above). And my impression is that most holistic cancer practitioners and

clinics

> discourage or prohibit dairy fat accordingly.

>

> It's my understanding that all dairy has components that are harmful to

cancer

> patients (and others). I would avoid dairy FAT if I had cancer because of

the

> research (e.g., Boik) and clinical experience (e.g., Gerson) that dairy

fat, as

> well as saturated fat in general (and to a greater extent Omega 6,

including

> arachadonic acid), promote

> the growth of already-existing tumors (even though they may not cause

cancer).

>

> My impression is that any consumption of fresh,

> high-quality, nonrancid flaxseed oil (FSO) is

> somewhat beneficial to most people w/cancer, but

> it's MUCH more effective if mixed w/sulfur-bearing

> amino acids (SAAs). On the flaxseedoil &

> flaxseedoil2 groups (which I've belonged to

> for the past couple yrs), there've been dozens of

> reports of complete remissions from cancer,

> including breast cancer and including many

> advanced aggressive cancers (some post-chemo &

> post-radiation), solely or primarily from using

> FSO mixed thoroughly w/cottage cheese (FSO/CC).

>

> For biochemical reasons that I don't understand,

> organic, low-fat CC and quark are clearly the best

> things to mix FSO with.

> Plain (no fruit), organic low-fat yogurt and kefir

> are probably 2nd & 3rd best (respectively). (CC,

> quark, and yogurt are have been used much more

> frequently than any of the other mixers). I would

> definitely use 1 of the above unless I had an

> unusually strong reason for not consuming dairy

> (e.g., allergy).

>

> Companion Nutrients is the best vegan mixer (from

> www.naturesdistributors.com/BioSan%20products/co

> 800-624-7114). I've heard to use 1 capsule per

> tablespoon of flax seed oil. " I would use one

> capsule per tablespoon of oil [between/before

> meals]. " Jack suggests taking a flax oil combination

> product, each tablespoon of which contains [300mg

> CoQ10, 300 IU vit. E, & 300mg L-cysteine]...1

> tablespoon per 50 pounds of body weight. " (cited

> in Diamond, W. , W. Lee Cowden, & Burton Goldberg (1997). An

Alternative

> Medicine Definitive Guide to Cancer. Tiburon, CA: Future Medicine

Publishing.

> (alternativemedicine.com)

>

> I think that any negative aspects of any of the

> above (even nonorganic dairy) are FAR outweighed

> by the cancer-healing effects of this mixture. I

> don't know any other food or food combination (except perhaps asparagus)

> as effective in healing cancer as FSO/CC.

>

> From what I've read, it's reportedly best to:

> Consume FSO/CC on empty stomach. Do NOT take it if

> you're diabetic unless instructed by physician.

> Tell your doctor that you're taking it. It's

> reportedly helpful to take vit. E with it. The

> recommended dosage ranges from about 1 to 6

> tablespoons (tbsp) of FSO, MIXED w/about 1/4 cup

> of CC for each tbsp. of FSO. I'd begin w/1-2 tbsp

> and gradually increase my dosage. Drop back to 1

> tablespoon (mixed with 1/4 cup CC) per 100 pounds

> of body weight after a few months.

>

> If using yogurt, use only plain (or vanilla)

> yogurt, preferably low-fat (but not non-fat).

> " Fruited yogurt is useless...After the yogurt &

> FSO are mixed, fruit [but NOT pineapple, papaya,

> or kiwi] may be added. " 3 times as much yogurt is

> needed, compared w/the amount of cottage cheese

> that would be needed.

> To make it taste better, some people add berries,

> peaches, or other fruit; granola; Stevia; or a

> little honey to the FSO/CC mixture.

>

> For more info,

> www.whale.to/cancer/budwig.html

> www.cancure.org/budwig_diet.htm

> www.beckwithfamily.com/usage.html

> (or http://home.usit.net/~spinner/usage.html)

> www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Nutrition/turner60.htm

> http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html

(contains

> additional links toward bottom of page)

> http://educate-yourself.org/fc/dukestudyignorsbudwigwork15aug01.shtml

> www.getandstaywell.com/archive28.shtml

> It's also discussed also in Albert E. 's " excellent " book _The

Cancer

> Answer_ and his video " The Immune System "

> and most extensively in

> Fischer, L. (1994). How to Fight Cancer

> and Win: Scientific Guidelines and Documented

> Facts for the Successful Treatment and Prevention

> of Cancer and Other Related Health Problems (2nd

> ed.). Canfield, OH: Fischer.

>

> The listservs flaxseedoil2 and

> flaxseedoil discuss her diet extensively.

>

> If had I cancer, I'd certainly eat flax seed oil mixed w/organic

> cottage cheese (or yogurt) (FSO/CC) but would probably avoid all other

dairy. I

> think that organic, cultured dairy products are fine for most people w/o

cancer.

>

> For people w/cancer who choose to consume additional dairy, I think it's

safest

> to stick w/organic, nonfat, cultured dairy products and perhaps grass-fed

milk.

>

> Best,

> Leonard

>

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November 16, 2003

Good evening Leonard :

Re, F/O and C/C. I am truly amazed how many people, NPs, and others, discuss

and recommend varied alterations to Dr.Johanna Budwig's regimen of F/O and

C/C. Is it not enough, to simply adopt her simple regimen of the two

products she recommends, based upon her decades of experience in treating

people with it, and getting the results that she speaks about, and the

results we hear about, in the many ancecdotes that have been put forth ? If

one is given a highly reliable roadmap to get to a certain destination,

someone is certainly doing the traveller a disservice in attempting to alter

the directions based on their lessor travel experience. Such a person

attempting to alter Dr.Budwig's regimen, could be excused if they would

indicate that any exceptions or additions to Dr.Budwig's regimen was

entirely their own. If we are going to discuss and recommend the benefits of

Dr. Budwig's flax oil and cottage cheese we should stay with what she

actually prescribes in order not to confuse the uninitiated, and to be more

assured of the success of her treatment.

Also, you say below, Leonard, that you would certainly eat flax oil and

organic cottage cheese or yogurt, and I too would also eat organic products

if I could get them, but where do you get organic cottage cheese today ?

Unable to find organic cottage cheese the uninitiated may not attempt

Dr.Budwig's regimen of treatment for their health problem, to their loss, I

believe.You also suggest yogurt, which I do not see in Dr.Budwig's regimen

of treatment, nor do I note that she says organic cottage cheese. She does

not say " cold pressed " flax seed oil either, but we know that she says any

hearted oil, even cod-liver oil, because it is highly heated to take away

the obnoxious flavor, is not fit to eat. I believe then, that we could

safely say that she recommends cold-pressed flax oil for the purposes of

alerting the uninformed to the best flax oil. Dr.Budwig's directions are,

from a study of her book on the subject, simply, flax oil and 2 % cottage

cheese, followed by, or eaten with, some fruit.

In her recipe for " Quart/flax seed a oil cream " she uses some milk. She

also recommends the use of her recipes, using flax oil , in the preparations

for meals.

Having said all the above, Leonard, I do respect you, and I commend you for

your efforts in promoting health alternatives.

B.

Re: milk, dairy; flaxoil & cottage cheese (FSO/CC)

> Hi Darryl,

> Sorry, but I have to disagree w/you again.

> Also, I've cut & pasted material from previous posts of mine, so my

apologies

> for the redundancies.

> From: Darryl Milligan <dkmill@...>

> > I recommend that everyone get off dairy.

> > For those that want to know why visit:

> > http://www.notmilk.com/

> Cohen has a lot of great information about the many negatives

aspects of

> dairy. He also states tons of falsehoods, partial truths, and extremely

> one-sided misrepresentations and overgeneralizations, as do many PRO-milk

people

> (and people w/extreme views on other issues). I suspect that with such

> arguments, one could make almost any food group look terrible (or like the

> miracle cure for all disease).

>

> For a different perspective,

> http://www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html

> http://www.westonaprice.org/transition/dairy.html

> http://www.westonaprice.org

> The forthcoming book _The Untold Story of Milk_ by Ron Schmid, ND

discusses the

> profound nutritional and healing properties of raw milk, including

recoveries

> from cancer and diabetes, and reports of adults living healthily for years

> reportedly consuming nothing but raw milk.

>

> From: <szukidavis@...>

> > People are using cottage cheese and flax seed oil [FSO/CC] to fight

cancer,

> including

> > breast cancer sometimes with very positive results.

> That's an understatement.

>

> > I don't understand how this can be if cottage cheese can cause the

growth of

> cancer cells to

> > accelerate?

> Apparently the positive aspects of the FSO/CC far outweigh the CC's

negative

> qualities.

>

> Cottage cheese & butter contain

> butyrates/butyric acid, which promote differentiation in leukemias,

lymphomas,

> myeloma, melanoma, papillomas, stomach, colorectal cancer, & advanced

> metastatic neuroblastoma.

>

> I think the harmful effects of dairy FAT outweight its benefits for most

cancer

> patients (other than lowfat cottage cheese or yogurt mixed w/FSO for

cancer

> patients in general and possibly organic butter for people w/the cancers

listed

> above). And my impression is that most holistic cancer practitioners and

clinics

> discourage or prohibit dairy fat accordingly.

>

> It's my understanding that all dairy has components that are harmful to

cancer

> patients (and others). I would avoid dairy FAT if I had cancer because of

the

> research (e.g., Boik) and clinical experience (e.g., Gerson) that dairy

fat, as

> well as saturated fat in general (and to a greater extent Omega 6,

including

> arachadonic acid), promote

> the growth of already-existing tumors (even though they may not cause

cancer).

>

> My impression is that any consumption of fresh,

> high-quality, nonrancid flaxseed oil (FSO) is

> somewhat beneficial to most people w/cancer, but

> it's MUCH more effective if mixed w/sulfur-bearing

> amino acids (SAAs). On the flaxseedoil &

> flaxseedoil2 groups (which I've belonged to

> for the past couple yrs), there've been dozens of

> reports of complete remissions from cancer,

> including breast cancer and including many

> advanced aggressive cancers (some post-chemo &

> post-radiation), solely or primarily from using

> FSO mixed thoroughly w/cottage cheese (FSO/CC).

>

> For biochemical reasons that I don't understand,

> organic, low-fat CC and quark are clearly the best

> things to mix FSO with.

> Plain (no fruit), organic low-fat yogurt and kefir

> are probably 2nd & 3rd best (respectively). (CC,

> quark, and yogurt are have been used much more

> frequently than any of the other mixers). I would

> definitely use 1 of the above unless I had an

> unusually strong reason for not consuming dairy

> (e.g., allergy).

>

> Companion Nutrients is the best vegan mixer (from

> www.naturesdistributors.com/BioSan%20products/co

> 800-624-7114). I've heard to use 1 capsule per

> tablespoon of flax seed oil. " I would use one

> capsule per tablespoon of oil [between/before

> meals]. " Jack suggests taking a flax oil combination

> product, each tablespoon of which contains [300mg

> CoQ10, 300 IU vit. E, & 300mg L-cysteine]...1

> tablespoon per 50 pounds of body weight. " (cited

> in Diamond, W. , W. Lee Cowden, & Burton Goldberg (1997). An

Alternative

> Medicine Definitive Guide to Cancer. Tiburon, CA: Future Medicine

Publishing.

> (alternativemedicine.com)

>

> I think that any negative aspects of any of the

> above (even nonorganic dairy) are FAR outweighed

> by the cancer-healing effects of this mixture. I

> don't know any other food or food combination (except perhaps asparagus)

> as effective in healing cancer as FSO/CC.

>

> From what I've read, it's reportedly best to:

> Consume FSO/CC on empty stomach. Do NOT take it if

> you're diabetic unless instructed by physician.

> Tell your doctor that you're taking it. It's

> reportedly helpful to take vit. E with it. The

> recommended dosage ranges from about 1 to 6

> tablespoons (tbsp) of FSO, MIXED w/about 1/4 cup

> of CC for each tbsp. of FSO. I'd begin w/1-2 tbsp

> and gradually increase my dosage. Drop back to 1

> tablespoon (mixed with 1/4 cup CC) per 100 pounds

> of body weight after a few months.

>

> If using yogurt, use only plain (or vanilla)

> yogurt, preferably low-fat (but not non-fat).

> " Fruited yogurt is useless...After the yogurt &

> FSO are mixed, fruit [but NOT pineapple, papaya,

> or kiwi] may be added. " 3 times as much yogurt is

> needed, compared w/the amount of cottage cheese

> that would be needed.

> To make it taste better, some people add berries,

> peaches, or other fruit; granola; Stevia; or a

> little honey to the FSO/CC mixture.

>

> For more info,

> www.whale.to/cancer/budwig.html

> www.cancure.org/budwig_diet.htm

> www.beckwithfamily.com/usage.html

> (or http://home.usit.net/~spinner/usage.html)

> www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Nutrition/turner60.htm

> http://curezone.com/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/cancer_dr_budwig.html

(contains

> additional links toward bottom of page)

> http://educate-yourself.org/fc/dukestudyignorsbudwigwork15aug01.shtml

> www.getandstaywell.com/archive28.shtml

> It's also discussed also in Albert E. 's " excellent " book _The

Cancer

> Answer_ and his video " The Immune System "

> and most extensively in

> Fischer, L. (1994). How to Fight Cancer

> and Win: Scientific Guidelines and Documented

> Facts for the Successful Treatment and Prevention

> of Cancer and Other Related Health Problems (2nd

> ed.). Canfield, OH: Fischer.

>

> The listservs flaxseedoil2 and

> flaxseedoil discuss her diet extensively.

>

> If had I cancer, I'd certainly eat flax seed oil mixed w/organic

> cottage cheese (or yogurt) (FSO/CC) but would probably avoid all other

dairy. I

> think that organic, cultured dairy products are fine for most people w/o

cancer.

>

> For people w/cancer who choose to consume additional dairy, I think it's

safest

> to stick w/organic, nonfat, cultured dairy products and perhaps grass-fed

milk.

>

> Best,

> Leonard

>

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