Re: Selenium for Sun Damage/ Nattokinase & Fish Oil prevent bloo...

October 27, 2003

In a message dated 10/27/03 7:44:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,

arnoldgore@... writes:

> (But please keep in mind that large doses

> of supplemental selenium can cause toxicity, so you shouldn't

> exceed 250 micrograms a day without medical supervision.)

>

What are the symptoms? I take a liquid..dropper full and have no clue as to

how much is in my morning cocktail.

October 27, 2003

In a message dated 10/27/03 7:44:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,

arnoldgore@... writes:

> (But please keep in mind that large doses

> of supplemental selenium can cause toxicity, so you shouldn't

> exceed 250 micrograms a day without medical supervision.)

>

What are the symptoms? I take a liquid..dropper full and have no clue as to

how much is in my morning cocktail.

October 27, 2003

Did you read Kangas: http://members.tripod.com/paulkangas

or www.healmax.com :

" The best investment you can make to improve America, would be to take 1000

mcg of selenium daily " .

" If I had cancer, I would joyfully take 3000 mcg of selenium daily

to fight cancer. It is safe up to 5000 mcg daily " .

" Over 90% of cancer is caused by a lack of selenium " .

" The study shows that eating sugar raises the level of insulin, wich depletes

selenium, weakening the whole bodies cells, until a cancer virus infects the

body, then the sugar feeds the dormant cancer cells " .

Is Kangas crazy or is he right ? Maybe we should ask him.

You can e-mail him at: paul7kangas@... .

pelcka

October 27, 2003

Did you read Kangas: http://members.tripod.com/paulkangas

or www.healmax.com :

" The best investment you can make to improve America, would be to take 1000

mcg of selenium daily " .

" If I had cancer, I would joyfully take 3000 mcg of selenium daily

to fight cancer. It is safe up to 5000 mcg daily " .

" Over 90% of cancer is caused by a lack of selenium " .

" The study shows that eating sugar raises the level of insulin, wich depletes

selenium, weakening the whole bodies cells, until a cancer virus infects the

body, then the sugar feeds the dormant cancer cells " .

Is Kangas crazy or is he right ? Maybe we should ask him.

You can e-mail him at: paul7kangas@... .

pelcka

October 27, 2003

There can be low blood pressure, low energy, hair loss, cracking of nails, and

even death. I would limit intake to 200 mcg.

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Re: Selenium for Sun Damage/ Nattokinase & Fish Oil

prevent bloo...

In a message dated 10/27/03 7:44:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,

arnoldgore@... writes:

> (But please keep in mind that large doses

> of supplemental selenium can cause toxicity, so you shouldn't

> exceed 250 micrograms a day without medical supervision.)

>

What are the symptoms? I take a liquid..dropper full and have no clue as to

how much is in my morning cocktail.

October 27, 2003

There can be low blood pressure, low energy, hair loss, cracking of nails, and

even death. I would limit intake to 200 mcg.

Dick http://www.royalrife.com . New email - drloyd@... .

To buy or sell used equipment, check out http://www.royalrife.com/board .

Post your recovery story using Rife therapies at http://www.royalrife.com/board

..

Re: Selenium for Sun Damage/ Nattokinase & Fish Oil

prevent bloo...

In a message dated 10/27/03 7:44:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,

arnoldgore@... writes:

> (But please keep in mind that large doses

> of supplemental selenium can cause toxicity, so you shouldn't

> exceed 250 micrograms a day without medical supervision.)

>

What are the symptoms? I take a liquid..dropper full and have no clue as to

how much is in my morning cocktail.

October 27, 2003

,

If you could please give your opinion on the following, regarding the

efficacy and toxisity levels of selenium:

Dr. son found that his cancer patients had very low blood selenium

levels, which agreed with the scientific literature linking low levels of

selenium with increased rates of cancer. Deciding to study this problem, he

enlisted the help of Nutrition 21, a company that produces standardized

organically bound high-selenium yeast. Nutrition 21 agreed to supply him

with selenium rich yeast for his cancer patients.

Unfortunately, Dr. son met an untimely, early death before he was able

to publish any of his research results. However, both his secretary at the

VA hospital and officials at Nutrition 21 were kind enough to send me copies

of Dr. son's files and correspondence discussing the tumor regressions

he was getting with his cancer patients.

Dr. son discovered that in most of his patients, normal doses of

selenium did not produce much of an increase in the blood levels of

selenium. In fact, very high oral doses of selenium were required to bring

up the blood levels of selenium in his cancer patients. In a letter to

Nutrition 21 dated May 11, 1979, he indicated, " We are now able, with nearly

100 percent regularity, to increase the blood levels by several fold by

giving 1,000 to 2,000 micrograms of selenium daily and then dropping back to

a maintenance dose. "

In one case, a dosage level of 2,700 mcg/day for two months followed by six

weeks of 5,000 mcg/day was required to bring up the selenium blood levels.

However, it must be emphasized that selenium is a trace mineral and the

doses Dr. son was using are potentially toxic. Dosages from 2,700 mcg

to 5,000 mcg per day could produce symptoms of selenium toxictty-in a normal

person.

One important aspect of Dr. son's work is the discovery that many

cancer patients apparently don't absorb selenium well. Potentially toxic

levels of oral selenium had to be administered in order to achieve normal

blood selenium levels. When normal blood selenium levels were reached, Dr.

-son documented marked improvement in his patients and, in some cases,

remission of advanced cancers.

son*s work raised some interesting questions that merit further

investigation. He noted that occasional patients with relatively low levels

of selenium (.223 ppm) experienced dramatic tumor regressions when

supplemental selenium raised blood levels to normal. For other patients,

however, tumor regression was not evident until the levels reached .40 ppm

to .50 ppm, while still others required reaching blood levels of .80 ppm. It

would be valuable to know why some patients require such high blood levels

of selenium to show improvement.

One study in China reported that a daily dose of 500 mcg of selenium over a

period of several years is safe for healthy humans. (5) The higher dosage

levels of selenium that appear to be necessary to help cancer patients can

be toxic. Dr. Schrauzer reports that dosages of 2,000 to 5,000 mcg per day

will produce toxicity symptoms after several months. However, since the

early symptoms of selenium toxicity such as nausea, weakness, and

discoloration of the fingernails are hardly ever overlooked, high doses have

not been reported to have caused any fatalities.

Because oral doses of selenium have to be so large to be therapeutically

effective, it is imperative to perform regular assays of blood selenium

levels in each individual patient. Four years ago I instituted the

administration of a 1,000-mcg intramuscular injection of selenium every

other day during a twenty-one-day period for cancer patients. This route

bypasses the intestines and avoids the problem of varying levels of selenium

uptake in different patients.

Outpatients take between 300 and 400 mcg of organic selenium orally each day

as a nutritional supplement. Close medical supervision combined with regular

laboratory assessment of blood selenium levels is necessary to prevent

toxicity when selenium is used to treat cancer.

Re: Selenium for Sun Damage/ Nattokinase & Fish

Oil prevent bloo...

>

> In a message dated 10/27/03 7:44:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> arnoldgore@... writes:

>

> > (But please keep in mind that large doses

> > of supplemental selenium can cause toxicity, so you shouldn't

> > exceed 250 micrograms a day without medical supervision.)

> >

>

> What are the symptoms? I take a liquid..dropper full and have no clue

as to

> how much is in my morning cocktail.

>

October 27, 2003

,

If you could please give your opinion on the following, regarding the

efficacy and toxisity levels of selenium:

Dr. son found that his cancer patients had very low blood selenium

levels, which agreed with the scientific literature linking low levels of

selenium with increased rates of cancer. Deciding to study this problem, he

enlisted the help of Nutrition 21, a company that produces standardized

organically bound high-selenium yeast. Nutrition 21 agreed to supply him

with selenium rich yeast for his cancer patients.

Unfortunately, Dr. son met an untimely, early death before he was able

to publish any of his research results. However, both his secretary at the

VA hospital and officials at Nutrition 21 were kind enough to send me copies

of Dr. son's files and correspondence discussing the tumor regressions

he was getting with his cancer patients.

Dr. son discovered that in most of his patients, normal doses of

selenium did not produce much of an increase in the blood levels of

selenium. In fact, very high oral doses of selenium were required to bring

up the blood levels of selenium in his cancer patients. In a letter to

Nutrition 21 dated May 11, 1979, he indicated, " We are now able, with nearly

100 percent regularity, to increase the blood levels by several fold by

giving 1,000 to 2,000 micrograms of selenium daily and then dropping back to

a maintenance dose. "

In one case, a dosage level of 2,700 mcg/day for two months followed by six

weeks of 5,000 mcg/day was required to bring up the selenium blood levels.

However, it must be emphasized that selenium is a trace mineral and the

doses Dr. son was using are potentially toxic. Dosages from 2,700 mcg

to 5,000 mcg per day could produce symptoms of selenium toxictty-in a normal

person.

One important aspect of Dr. son's work is the discovery that many

cancer patients apparently don't absorb selenium well. Potentially toxic

levels of oral selenium had to be administered in order to achieve normal

blood selenium levels. When normal blood selenium levels were reached, Dr.

-son documented marked improvement in his patients and, in some cases,

remission of advanced cancers.

son*s work raised some interesting questions that merit further

investigation. He noted that occasional patients with relatively low levels

of selenium (.223 ppm) experienced dramatic tumor regressions when

supplemental selenium raised blood levels to normal. For other patients,

however, tumor regression was not evident until the levels reached .40 ppm

to .50 ppm, while still others required reaching blood levels of .80 ppm. It

would be valuable to know why some patients require such high blood levels

of selenium to show improvement.

One study in China reported that a daily dose of 500 mcg of selenium over a

period of several years is safe for healthy humans. (5) The higher dosage

levels of selenium that appear to be necessary to help cancer patients can

be toxic. Dr. Schrauzer reports that dosages of 2,000 to 5,000 mcg per day

will produce toxicity symptoms after several months. However, since the

early symptoms of selenium toxicity such as nausea, weakness, and

discoloration of the fingernails are hardly ever overlooked, high doses have

not been reported to have caused any fatalities.

Because oral doses of selenium have to be so large to be therapeutically

effective, it is imperative to perform regular assays of blood selenium

levels in each individual patient. Four years ago I instituted the

administration of a 1,000-mcg intramuscular injection of selenium every

other day during a twenty-one-day period for cancer patients. This route

bypasses the intestines and avoids the problem of varying levels of selenium

uptake in different patients.

Outpatients take between 300 and 400 mcg of organic selenium orally each day

as a nutritional supplement. Close medical supervision combined with regular

laboratory assessment of blood selenium levels is necessary to prevent

toxicity when selenium is used to treat cancer.

Re: Selenium for Sun Damage/ Nattokinase & Fish

Oil prevent bloo...

>

> In a message dated 10/27/03 7:44:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> arnoldgore@... writes:

>

> > (But please keep in mind that large doses

> > of supplemental selenium can cause toxicity, so you shouldn't

> > exceed 250 micrograms a day without medical supervision.)

> >

>

> What are the symptoms? I take a liquid..dropper full and have no clue

as to

> how much is in my morning cocktail.

>

October 27, 2003

Pelcka,

I totally agree with you pelcka.

I think that we can safely go higher than 200 mcg a day, and that is why I

quated the article.

However I don't know if I would go as high as 5000 mcg a day.

I also think that blood test to assess selenium blood level are useful.

Gubi

Re: Selenium for Sun Damage/ Nattokinase & Fish Oil

prevent bloo...

> Did you read Kangas: http://members.tripod.com/paulkangas

> or www.healmax.com :

>

> " The best investment you can make to improve America, would be to take

1000

> mcg of selenium daily " .

>

> " If I had cancer, I would joyfully take 3000 mcg of selenium daily

> to fight cancer. It is safe up to 5000 mcg daily " .

>

> " Over 90% of cancer is caused by a lack of selenium " .

>

> " The study shows that eating sugar raises the level of insulin, wich

depletes

> selenium, weakening the whole bodies cells, until a cancer virus infects

the

> body, then the sugar feeds the dormant cancer cells " .

>

> Is Kangas crazy or is he right ? Maybe we should ask him.

> You can e-mail him at: paul7kangas@... .

>

> pelcka

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

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>

October 27, 2003

Pelcka,

I totally agree with you pelcka.

I think that we can safely go higher than 200 mcg a day, and that is why I

quated the article.

However I don't know if I would go as high as 5000 mcg a day.

I also think that blood test to assess selenium blood level are useful.

Gubi

Re: Selenium for Sun Damage/ Nattokinase & Fish Oil

prevent bloo...

> Did you read Kangas: http://members.tripod.com/paulkangas

> or www.healmax.com :

>

> " The best investment you can make to improve America, would be to take

1000

> mcg of selenium daily " .

>

> " If I had cancer, I would joyfully take 3000 mcg of selenium daily

> to fight cancer. It is safe up to 5000 mcg daily " .

>

> " Over 90% of cancer is caused by a lack of selenium " .

>

> " The study shows that eating sugar raises the level of insulin, wich

depletes

> selenium, weakening the whole bodies cells, until a cancer virus infects

the

> body, then the sugar feeds the dormant cancer cells " .

>

> Is Kangas crazy or is he right ? Maybe we should ask him.

> You can e-mail him at: paul7kangas@... .

>

> pelcka

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>

October 27, 2003

Probably not crazy, but certainly mistaken. It would be very dangerous to follow

his advice.

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Selenium (Se) is a part of the enzyme glutathione peroxidase, which metabolizes

hydroperoxides formed from polyunsaturated fatty acids. Selenium is also a part

of enzymes that deiodinate thyroid hormones. Generally, selenium functions as an

antioxidant that works in conjunction with vitamin E. Plasma levels vary from 8

to 25 µg/dL (1.0 to 3.2 µmol/L), depending on selenium intake.

In a recent study of patients with a history of basal or squamous cell skin

cancer, selenium 200 µg/day appeared to reduce mortality from all cancers and

the incidence of lung, colorectal, and prostate cancers. However, it did not

prevent the appearance of skin cancer nor significantly affect all-cause

mortality. These findings require further study.

Toxicity: At high doses (> 900 µg/day), selenium produces a toxic syndrome

consisting of dermatitis, loose hair, diseased nails, and peripheral neuropathy

associated with plasma levels > 100 µg/dL (> 12.7 µmol/L).

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Dick http://www.royalrife.com . New email - drloyd@... .

To buy or sell used equipment, check out http://www.royalrife.com/board .

Post your recovery story using Rife therapies at http://www.royalrife.com/board

..

Re: Selenium for Sun Damage/ Nattokinase & Fish Oil

prevent bloo...

Did you read Kangas: http://members.tripod.com/paulkangas

or www.healmax.com :

" The best investment you can make to improve America, would be to take 1000

mcg of selenium daily " .

" If I had cancer, I would joyfully take 3000 mcg of selenium daily

to fight cancer. It is safe up to 5000 mcg daily " .

" Over 90% of cancer is caused by a lack of selenium " .

" The study shows that eating sugar raises the level of insulin, wich depletes

selenium, weakening the whole bodies cells, until a cancer virus infects the

body, then the sugar feeds the dormant cancer cells " .

Is Kangas crazy or is he right ? Maybe we should ask him.

You can e-mail him at: paul7kangas@... .

pelcka

October 27, 2003