Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Haven't heard of these substances being used to cure cancer, but I'm wondering how the FDA could bust someone for what they did in Mexico... Any more info. about the story?? (Just wondering because I took my wife to Mexico twice last year for cancer treatment; they seem to have a lot of freedom there...unlike the " land of freedom " ...) Bob B. Cancer cause, cover up and cure, by gdanski > Has anyone spoke of arginine and acetimide to cure cancer? The FDA > busted a cancer veteren for using this in Mexico, after curing his > own cancer. > It is supposed to prevent the ammonia production, and get the cells > back to an oxygen metabolism. > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Haven't heard of these substances being used to cure cancer, but I'm wondering how the FDA could bust someone for what they did in Mexico... Any more info. about the story?? (Just wondering because I took my wife to Mexico twice last year for cancer treatment; they seem to have a lot of freedom there...unlike the " land of freedom " ...) Bob B. Cancer cause, cover up and cure, by gdanski > Has anyone spoke of arginine and acetimide to cure cancer? The FDA > busted a cancer veteren for using this in Mexico, after curing his > own cancer. > It is supposed to prevent the ammonia production, and get the cells > back to an oxygen metabolism. > > > > Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 In a message dated 10/19/03 3:16:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, missourinaturegirl@... writes: > To get the fungus he recommends cymoxanil which containes acetimide, > for a vegtable fungicide. He quotes a Dr costantini who said kill > the fungi, kill the cancer. > Would that pertain to a fungi based cancer only? We have had reports of viral or bacterial based cancers responding to other treatments successfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 In a message dated 10/19/03 3:16:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, missourinaturegirl@... writes: > To get the fungus he recommends cymoxanil which containes acetimide, > for a vegtable fungicide. He quotes a Dr costantini who said kill > the fungi, kill the cancer. > Would that pertain to a fungi based cancer only? We have had reports of viral or bacterial based cancers responding to other treatments successfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 In a message dated 10/19/03 3:16:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, missourinaturegirl@... writes: > Dr Keller, Jimmy, was the one > who spoke of his cure, and was arrested for using it. > I didn't think one could be arrested for using a cure, only for providing it. Where does he reside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 In a message dated 10/19/03 3:16:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, missourinaturegirl@... writes: > Dr Keller, Jimmy, was the one > who spoke of his cure, and was arrested for using it. > I didn't think one could be arrested for using a cure, only for providing it. Where does he reside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Gdanski recommends clarks liver cleanse using 2 items: ornithine and arginine. Gdanski is not the only person recommending these. Canada banned them, and that means something. Dr Keller, Jimmy, was the one who spoke of his cure, and was arrested for using it. To get the fungus he recommends cymoxanil which containes acetimide, for a vegtable fungicide. He quotes a Dr costantini who said kill the fungi, kill the cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 Gdanski recommends clarks liver cleanse using 2 items: ornithine and arginine. Gdanski is not the only person recommending these. Canada banned them, and that means something. Dr Keller, Jimmy, was the one who spoke of his cure, and was arrested for using it. To get the fungus he recommends cymoxanil which containes acetimide, for a vegtable fungicide. He quotes a Dr costantini who said kill the fungi, kill the cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 > Gdanski > recommends clarks liver cleanse using 2 items: ornithine and > arginine. Gdanski is not the only person recommending these. Canada > banned them, and that means something. Dr Keller, Jimmy, was the one > who spoke of his cure, and was arrested for using it. Arginine and ornithine are HGH releasers, and as such, according to the pioneers of their use in Life Extension protocols (Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw), will potentially stimulate the growth of anything, including cancer tumors. (They are typically used to enhance muscle definition and strength and to counteract the decrease of HGH production associated with aging.) They are safer to use only in people who are pretty sure they don't have cancer, or know exactly that their type of cancer is not stimulated by HGH or insulin-like growh factor (a metabolite of HGH, as I recall). Also, these amino acids should be combined with l-lysine or they might stimulate viral growth too. Finally, glutathione or NAC are also used in the protocol for maximum efficiency. The combo is taken at least 4 hours away from protein foods. How arginine and ornithine can constitute a " liver cleanse " is hard to imagine, all things considered. However, there's definite benefits for healthy individuals who want to enhance their sports performance, e.g.. Also, in someone cured of cancer, they might help restore the wasted muscles, etc.. Sandy Shaw used this combo to rebuild her muscles after curing her cancer of the salivary glands with a combo of orthodox treatment (radiation) and extremely high doses of various antioxidants. Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 > Gdanski > recommends clarks liver cleanse using 2 items: ornithine and > arginine. Gdanski is not the only person recommending these. Canada > banned them, and that means something. Dr Keller, Jimmy, was the one > who spoke of his cure, and was arrested for using it. Arginine and ornithine are HGH releasers, and as such, according to the pioneers of their use in Life Extension protocols (Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw), will potentially stimulate the growth of anything, including cancer tumors. (They are typically used to enhance muscle definition and strength and to counteract the decrease of HGH production associated with aging.) They are safer to use only in people who are pretty sure they don't have cancer, or know exactly that their type of cancer is not stimulated by HGH or insulin-like growh factor (a metabolite of HGH, as I recall). Also, these amino acids should be combined with l-lysine or they might stimulate viral growth too. Finally, glutathione or NAC are also used in the protocol for maximum efficiency. The combo is taken at least 4 hours away from protein foods. How arginine and ornithine can constitute a " liver cleanse " is hard to imagine, all things considered. However, there's definite benefits for healthy individuals who want to enhance their sports performance, e.g.. Also, in someone cured of cancer, they might help restore the wasted muscles, etc.. Sandy Shaw used this combo to rebuild her muscles after curing her cancer of the salivary glands with a combo of orthodox treatment (radiation) and extremely high doses of various antioxidants. Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 I have been using Hulda 's program for my cancer for over 4 years. I take arginine and ornithine daily. Arginine in the morning is energizing, ornithine before bed helps one to sleep. I know several cancer patients that use arginine and ornithine...I'm not aware of any evidence that it is promoting tumor growth or viral growth. But her cancer protocol is pretty comprehensive, maybe something like the herbs or zapping or something else is compensating for stimulation, if it is, in fact, occurring. I would love it if arginine and ornithine built muscle, but alas, have not had the pleasure. I have found that using making and using 's homeographic drops of " muscle " as outlined in the new HIV book DID help build muscle. Arginine and orninthine are not used in 's liver cleanse. Epsom salts, ozonated olive oil and lemon or grapefruit juice are used in the liver cleanse. I have done over 50 cleanses...it is dramatic and in my opinion, can be lifesaving. For her cancer patients she now uses her last two books, " The Syncrometer Science Laboratory Manual " and " The Cure For HIV/ AIDS " . I believe they are available on amazon.com. > > Gdanski > > recommends clarks liver cleanse using 2 items: ornithine and > > arginine. Gdanski is not the only person recommending these. Canada > > banned them, and that means something. Dr Keller, Jimmy, was the one > > who spoke of his cure, and was arrested for using it. > > Arginine and ornithine are HGH releasers, and as such, according to > the pioneers of their use in Life Extension protocols (Durk Pearson > and Sandy Shaw), will potentially stimulate the growth of anything, > including cancer tumors. (They are typically used to enhance muscle > definition and strength and to counteract the decrease of HGH > production associated with aging.) They are safer to use only in > people who are pretty sure they don't have cancer, or know exactly > that their type of cancer is not stimulated by HGH or insulin-like > growh factor (a metabolite of HGH, as I recall). Also, these amino > acids should be combined with l-lysine or they might stimulate viral > growth too. Finally, glutathione or NAC are also used in the protocol > for maximum efficiency. The combo is taken at least 4 hours away from > protein foods. > > How arginine and ornithine can constitute a " liver cleanse " is hard to > imagine, all things considered. However, there's definite benefits > for healthy individuals who want to enhance their sports performance, > e.g.. Also, in someone cured of cancer, they might help restore the > wasted muscles, etc.. Sandy Shaw used this combo to rebuild her > muscles after curing her cancer of the salivary glands with a combo of > orthodox treatment (radiation) and extremely high doses of various > antioxidants. > > Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2003 Report Share Posted October 19, 2003 I have been using Hulda 's program for my cancer for over 4 years. I take arginine and ornithine daily. Arginine in the morning is energizing, ornithine before bed helps one to sleep. I know several cancer patients that use arginine and ornithine...I'm not aware of any evidence that it is promoting tumor growth or viral growth. But her cancer protocol is pretty comprehensive, maybe something like the herbs or zapping or something else is compensating for stimulation, if it is, in fact, occurring. I would love it if arginine and ornithine built muscle, but alas, have not had the pleasure. I have found that using making and using 's homeographic drops of " muscle " as outlined in the new HIV book DID help build muscle. Arginine and orninthine are not used in 's liver cleanse. Epsom salts, ozonated olive oil and lemon or grapefruit juice are used in the liver cleanse. I have done over 50 cleanses...it is dramatic and in my opinion, can be lifesaving. For her cancer patients she now uses her last two books, " The Syncrometer Science Laboratory Manual " and " The Cure For HIV/ AIDS " . I believe they are available on amazon.com. > > Gdanski > > recommends clarks liver cleanse using 2 items: ornithine and > > arginine. Gdanski is not the only person recommending these. Canada > > banned them, and that means something. Dr Keller, Jimmy, was the one > > who spoke of his cure, and was arrested for using it. > > Arginine and ornithine are HGH releasers, and as such, according to > the pioneers of their use in Life Extension protocols (Durk Pearson > and Sandy Shaw), will potentially stimulate the growth of anything, > including cancer tumors. (They are typically used to enhance muscle > definition and strength and to counteract the decrease of HGH > production associated with aging.) They are safer to use only in > people who are pretty sure they don't have cancer, or know exactly > that their type of cancer is not stimulated by HGH or insulin-like > growh factor (a metabolite of HGH, as I recall). Also, these amino > acids should be combined with l-lysine or they might stimulate viral > growth too. Finally, glutathione or NAC are also used in the protocol > for maximum efficiency. The combo is taken at least 4 hours away from > protein foods. > > How arginine and ornithine can constitute a " liver cleanse " is hard to > imagine, all things considered. However, there's definite benefits > for healthy individuals who want to enhance their sports performance, > e.g.. Also, in someone cured of cancer, they might help restore the > wasted muscles, etc.. Sandy Shaw used this combo to rebuild her > muscles after curing her cancer of the salivary glands with a combo of > orthodox treatment (radiation) and extremely high doses of various > antioxidants. > > Elena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.