Guest guest Posted December 14, 1998 Report Share Posted December 14, 1998 Carolyn, Thank you so much for this information. I have been debating a visit with my MD because of severe swelling of my abdomen. If I was not taking Dr. Schulze's formula #1, I would probably not have too many bowel movements. I am so uncomfortable, I feel 6-8 months pregnant, with the distention starting just under my bra. Prior to your diagnosis, did you have discomfort after eating? Sandy >From bounce-oxyplus--934-details51=hotmail.comonelist Mon Dec 14 12:28:47 1998 >Received: (qmail 1557 invoked by alias); 14 Dec 1998 20:39:05 -0000 >Received: (qmail 1546 invoked from network); 14 Dec 1998 20:39:03 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO brain.proaxis.com) (206.163.142.1) by pop.onelist.com with SMTP; 14 Dec 1998 20:39:03 -0000 >Received: from maryherondyer (ca02-2.inet-x.net [198.106.198.66]) by brain.proaxis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA05466 for <oxyplusonelist>; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:28:28 -0800 (PST) >Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981211031931.00941220@...> >X-Sender: vilik@... >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) >Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 03:19:31 -0800 >oxyplusonelist >From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> >Mailing-List: list oxyplusonelist; contact oxyplus-owneronelist >Delivered-mailing list oxyplusonelist >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:oxyplus-unsubscribeONElist> >Reply-to: oxyplusonelist >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset= " us-ascii " >Subject: CA-125 blood test > >From: Vilik Rapheles <vilik@...> > >Hi list, > > The following was just forwarded to me by a friend, and thought I would >share it. This is the problem Gilda Radner succumbed to, supposedly because >the diagnosis was not made in time, so thought it might be good to pass >along the info. > >Vilik >------------------------------------- > >From: Carolyn Benivegna >> >> As all of you know, I have Primary Peritoneal Cancer. This cancer has >> only recently been identified as its OWN type of cancer; but it is, >> essentially, Ovarian Cancer. Both types of cancer are diagnosed in the >> same way (with the " tumor marker " CA-125 blood test), and they are >> treated in the same way (surgery to remove the primary tumor and then >> chemotherapy with Taxol and Carboplatin). >> >> Having gone through this ordeal, I want to save others from the same >> fate. That is why I am sending this message to you and hope you will >> print it and give it or send it via e-mail to everybody you know. >> One thing I have learned is that each of us must take TOTAL >> responsibility for our own health care. I thought I had done that >> because I always had an annual physical, had my annual mammogram and PAP >> smear, did monthly Self Breast Exam, went to the dentist at least >> twice/year, etc. I even insisted on a sigmoidoscopy and a bone density >> test last year. >> >> When I had a total hysterectomy in 1993, I thought that I did not have >> to worry about getting any of the female reproductive organ cancers. >> LITTLE DID I KNOW! I don't have ovaries (and they were HEALTHY when >> they were removed!), but I have what is essentially ovarian cancer. >> Strange, isn't it? These are just SOME of the things our Doctors never >> tell us. >> ONE OUT OF EVERY 55 WOMEN WILL GET OVARIAN OR PRIMARY PERITONEAL CANCER! >> >> THE " CLASSIC " SYMPTOMS ARE AN ABDOMEN THAT RATHER SUDDENLY ENLARGES AND >> CONSTIPATION AND/OR DIARRHEA. >> I had these classic symptoms and went to the Doctor. Because these >> symptoms seemed to be " abdominal " , I went to a gastroenterologist. He >> ran tests that were designed to determine whether there was a bacterial >> infection; these tests were negative, and I was diagnosed with >> " Irritable Bowel Syndrome " . >> >> I guess I would have accepted this >> diagnosis had it not been for my enlarged abdomen. I swear to you, it >> looked like I was 4-5 months pregnant! I therefore, insisted on more >> tests. They took an X-Ray of my abdomen; it was negative. I was, >> again, assured that I had Irritable Bowel Syndrome and was encouraged >> to go on my scheduled month-long trip to Europe. I couldn't wear any of >> my slacks or shorts because I couldn't get them buttoned, and I KNEW >> something was radically wrong. I INSISTED on more tests, and they >> (reluctantly) scheduled me for a CT-Scan (just to shut me up, I think). >> This is what I mean by taking charge of our own health care. >> >> The CT-Scan showed a lot of fluid in my abdomen (NOT normal!). Needless >> to say, I had to cancel my trip and have FIVE POUNDS of fluid drawn off >> at the hospital (not a pleasant procedure, I assure you, but NOTHING >> compared to what was ahead of me). Tests revealed cancer cells in the >> fluid. Finally, finally, finally, the Doctor ran a CA-125 blood test >> and I was properly diagnosed. >> >> I HAD THE CLASSIC SYMPTOMS FOR OVARIAN CANCER AND, YET, THIS SIMPLE >> CA-125 BLOOD TEST HAD NEVER BEEN RUN ON ME ... NOT AS PART OF MY ANNUAL >> PHYSICAL EXAM AND NOT WHEN I WAS SYMPTOMATIC. THIS IS AN INEXPENSIVE >> AND SIMPLE BLOOD TEST!!! >> >> PLEASE, PLEASE, P-L-E-A-S-E TELL ALL YOUR FEMALE FRIENDS AND RELATIVES >> TO INSIST ON A CA-125 BLOOD TEST EVERY YEAR AS PART OF THEIR ANNUAL >> PHYSICAL EXAMS. BE FOREWARNED THAT THEIR DOCTORS MIGHT TRY TO TALK THEM >> OUT OF IT, SAYING " IT ISN'T NECESSARY " . BELIEVE ME, HAD I KNOWN THEN >> WHAT I KNOW NOW, WE WOULD HAVE CAUGHT MY CANCER MUCH EARLIER (BEFORE IT >> WAS A STAGE 3 CANCER)!!! INSIST ON THE CA-125 BLOOD TEST; >> DON'T TAKE " NO " FOR AN ANSWER. >> >> THE NORMAL RANGE FOR A CA-125 BLOOD TEST IS BETWEEN ZERO AND 35. (MINE >> WAS 754 ... THAT'S RIGHT, 754!) IF THE NUMBER IS SLIGHTLY ELEVATED, YOU >> CAN HAVE ANOTHER ONE DONE IN THREE OR SIX MONTHS AND KEEP A CLOSE EYE >> ON IT JUST LIKE WOMEN DO WHEN THEY HAVE FIBROID TUMORS OR WHEN MEN HAVE >> A SLIGHTLY ELEVATED PSA TEST (PROSTATE SPECIFIC ANTIGENS) THAT HELPS >> DIAGNOSE PROSTATE CANCER. HAVING THE CA-125 TEST DONE ANNUALLY CAN >> ALERT YOU EARLY, AND THAT'S THE GOAL IN DIAGNOSING ANY TYPE OF CANCER - >> CATCH IT EARLY. >> >> I hope I haven't bored you with all of this. But I hope I HAVE scared >> you enough to motivate you to action. Do YOU know 55 women? If so, at >> least one of them will have this VERY AGGRESSIVE cancer and maybe, just >> maybe, it will be YOU. I hope not. >> >> Please, go to your Doctor THIS WEEK and insist on a CA-125 test and have >> one EVERY YEAR for the rest of your life. And forward this message to >> every woman you know and tell all of your female family members and >> friends. As the Nike ads say, " JUST DO IT " ! Please don't think youth >> will protect you, either. Though the median age for this cancer is 56 >> (and, guess what, I'm exactly 56), women as young as 22 have it. Age is >> not a factor. >> Thank you for your time. My best wishes for your continued good health. >> >> Carolyn Benivegna >> >> >> > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 1998 Report Share Posted December 14, 1998 Dear Vilik, Thank you very much for forwarding that posting from your friend with the ovarian cancer. She gives good advice. So strange that the allopaths have a good test that they don't use... Too cheap, I guess. Its too bad that she didn't have an ozone generator and used it faithfully, which would have eliminated all this pain and discomfort. Best of Health! Saul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Does anyone know if this test ever has a false negative reading? In other words can a woman have Ovarian Cancer with a negative result from this test? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 Does anyone know if this test ever has a false negative reading? In other words can a woman have Ovarian Cancer with a negative result from this test? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 In a message dated 3/14/03 5:47:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, rbeiswenger@... writes: > The AMAS blood test is much more accurate, and it works for ANY type of > cancer. Thank you so much for this information. I will ask my doctor about it during my next appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 In a message dated 3/14/03 5:47:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, rbeiswenger@... writes: > The AMAS blood test is much more accurate, and it works for ANY type of > cancer. Thank you so much for this information. I will ask my doctor about it during my next appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 ABSOLUTELY. In many cases it will show up negative until the woman is in Stage III or IV! This is one of the reasons ovarian cancer is so deadly - it goes undiagnosed until it is in an advanced stage. The AMAS blood test is much more accurate, and it works for ANY type of cancer. Though it does not tell you WHERE the cancer is, it gives you early warning to start looking for it! (It lets you know you have a burglar in the house; just doesn't tell you in which room....) See www.amascancertest.com for complete info. Bob CA-125 BLOOD TEST > Does anyone know if this test ever has a false negative reading? In other > words can a woman have Ovarian Cancer with a negative result from this test? > Thanks, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 ABSOLUTELY. In many cases it will show up negative until the woman is in Stage III or IV! This is one of the reasons ovarian cancer is so deadly - it goes undiagnosed until it is in an advanced stage. The AMAS blood test is much more accurate, and it works for ANY type of cancer. Though it does not tell you WHERE the cancer is, it gives you early warning to start looking for it! (It lets you know you have a burglar in the house; just doesn't tell you in which room....) See www.amascancertest.com for complete info. Bob CA-125 BLOOD TEST > Does anyone know if this test ever has a false negative reading? In other > words can a woman have Ovarian Cancer with a negative result from this test? > Thanks, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 , I suggest that you look up the information on the website first; most doctors, including oncologists, are not aware of this test even though it has been around for many years. They are all waiting for the other to be the first to use it, which is typical. The PAP smear, for instance, did not become widely accepted until it received some publicity in a women's magazine in the late 1940's which prompted women to start asking their gynecologists for it. It will probably take something similar for this test, unfortunately. In the meantime, don't wait for the masses to move - take charge of your health and be in the front lines! It's YOUR health, not your doctor's! Sorry for getting on my soap box... Bob The website is www.amascancertest.com Re: CA-125 BLOOD TEST > In a message dated 3/14/03 5:47:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, > rbeiswenger@... writes: > > > > The AMAS blood test is much more accurate, and it works for ANY type of > > cancer. > > Thank you so much for this information. I will ask my doctor about it during > my next appointment. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 , I suggest that you look up the information on the website first; most doctors, including oncologists, are not aware of this test even though it has been around for many years. They are all waiting for the other to be the first to use it, which is typical. The PAP smear, for instance, did not become widely accepted until it received some publicity in a women's magazine in the late 1940's which prompted women to start asking their gynecologists for it. It will probably take something similar for this test, unfortunately. In the meantime, don't wait for the masses to move - take charge of your health and be in the front lines! It's YOUR health, not your doctor's! Sorry for getting on my soap box... Bob The website is www.amascancertest.com Re: CA-125 BLOOD TEST > In a message dated 3/14/03 5:47:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, > rbeiswenger@... writes: > > > > The AMAS blood test is much more accurate, and it works for ANY type of > > cancer. > > Thank you so much for this information. I will ask my doctor about it during > my next appointment. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 <The AMAS blood test is much more accurate, and it works for ANY type of cancer. Though it does not tell you WHERE the cancer is, it gives you early warning to start looking for it! (It lets you know you have a burglar in the house; just doesn't tell you in which room....)> I'm not writing to dispute the accuracy of the AMAS test, only to point out that it really tests when a burglar is still picking at the lock, trying to get in, so to speak. That is, the test is for a pre-cancerous, or preparing-to-become cancer situation in the body. In fact, it will not register anything for a full-blown case of cancer. The website explains this. I had an AMAS test a little of a year ago because after my brother died of colon cancer, my sister came down with it--and I wanted to avoid an invasive colonoscopy. It came back positive. I don't know whether this was a warning sign for colon cancer or, what I suspect may be true, a response to a temporary cervical condition (a pap smear that was slightly positive for cell growth was months later checked out okay). Whatever it was, I went ahead with a modified cancer therapy--the Gerson therapy--and am doing great now. Bloodwork on the my liver that was once elevated way out of normal range (2.5 out of the 0.1-1.0 range)is now normal and I see all kinds of healing signs (elimination of liver spots!) these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2003 Report Share Posted March 14, 2003 <The AMAS blood test is much more accurate, and it works for ANY type of cancer. Though it does not tell you WHERE the cancer is, it gives you early warning to start looking for it! (It lets you know you have a burglar in the house; just doesn't tell you in which room....)> I'm not writing to dispute the accuracy of the AMAS test, only to point out that it really tests when a burglar is still picking at the lock, trying to get in, so to speak. That is, the test is for a pre-cancerous, or preparing-to-become cancer situation in the body. In fact, it will not register anything for a full-blown case of cancer. The website explains this. I had an AMAS test a little of a year ago because after my brother died of colon cancer, my sister came down with it--and I wanted to avoid an invasive colonoscopy. It came back positive. I don't know whether this was a warning sign for colon cancer or, what I suspect may be true, a response to a temporary cervical condition (a pap smear that was slightly positive for cell growth was months later checked out okay). Whatever it was, I went ahead with a modified cancer therapy--the Gerson therapy--and am doing great now. Bloodwork on the my liver that was once elevated way out of normal range (2.5 out of the 0.1-1.0 range)is now normal and I see all kinds of healing signs (elimination of liver spots!) these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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