another beta glucan question for Dr. Bormann

March 13, 2003

Thank You Dr. Bormann, so I must ask you another question. What are the

dosages of Beta glucan,and the other vitamins and minerals for a good

support to immune system for the healthy people or patients in remission and

the cancer patients who have their diseases active? Is Moonbeam's " Protocol

1 " correct in dosages from your opinion?

Another question is: Dr.Vetvicka told that they are nearly sure that the

beta glucan you take for once stays in the body for at least 3 days. If this

is true there must be an article I think. And if it is true does it mean

that beta glucan is active during these 3 days, I couldn't ask this question

in the lecture because it was a conference which was organised to introduce

the drug (betaglucan) " Imuneks " . And on the drug the dosage is shown " one or

two caps daily. " One capsule is 10 mg.

Mehmet

Re: Beta Glucan/ Reply to Mehemet from Dr.B.

> Dear Mehemet:

> This is based on research that only Vitamin C is used by macrophages as

> a cofactor for their production of peroxide for the burst effect.

> Neither selenomethionine or vitamin E have this effect, and in fact too

> high of a concentration of vitamin E can reduce the effectiveness of

> this oxidative function of the macrophage (Bocci, et. al). The

> mechanism of action of the macrophage in these instances is oxidative

> burst, just like with peroxide drips, ozone, high dose vitamin C drips,

> etc. If one has too much of the chemical version of vitamins which are

> considered antioxidants (chemical vitamin E, etc. rather than food

> sourced in its whole matrix) then the antioxidant action of these

> chemicals inhibits the radical production which will accomplish what

> we're after, namely to kill the infected or neoplastic cells...

>

> I hope this helps clear things up somewhat...I love inquiring minds

>

> Dr.Bormann

> *******************

> On Sunday, March 9, 2003, at 04:20 AM, Superonline wrote:

>

> > Dear list members

> > on march 7 an Assoc. Prof. from Louisville University Immunopatology

> > department Mr. Vaclav Vetvicka was in Istanbul for a lecture about

> > betaglucan. He is working on betaglucan more than ten years. He talked

> > about many researchs on mice. His presentation showed that there is no

> > clinical trials on human yet but beta glucan is a very promising

> > substance. After the lecture, I asked him about the sinerjestic effect

> > of beta glucan with Vitamin C which has been written many times in our

> > list. He said as far as he knows there is no article about this and in

> > the laboratory tests they used it alone orally or as injection. So now

> > I want to ask to the list members who use betaglucan and especially to

> > Dr. Bormann from where do we know that it is better to take beta

> > glucan with Vit.C and even with selenometionine and vit. E ?

> > Thanks.

> > Mehmet

> >

March 13, 2003