RE: RE:Re: CLT & PDT

[Guest guest]

Sammy,

While I agree that someone should do more for the Ireland patients of CLT,

I beleive the responsibility is actually on Dr. Porter. He is one of the

doctors who ran the clinic in Ireland and who is in charge of CLT in most of

the clinics in Europe, including the Hufeland clinic. Dr. Woeppel (the

doctor who runs the Hufeland clinic in Germany) does not even book the

appointments or even screens the patients. That is all done by Porter and

his secretary. While I agree that Ralph Moss really dropped the ball on this

one, I feel there are a lot of problems that occured as a result of Dr.

Porter. He needs to be held accountable. He has continued to open up

clinics in Europe and is now in Australia and I have not heard of him

addressing any of these problems. By the way, I think some of you would be

interesting in knowing that Dr. Porter is an optomologist. My husband has

just returned from the clinic and plans to give a full report on this list of

what he saw and his impression of the treatment. It will be very

interesting.

[Guest guest]

Sammy,

While I agree that someone should do more for the Ireland patients of CLT,

I beleive the responsibility is actually on Dr. Porter. He is one of the

doctors who ran the clinic in Ireland and who is in charge of CLT in most of

the clinics in Europe, including the Hufeland clinic. Dr. Woeppel (the

doctor who runs the Hufeland clinic in Germany) does not even book the

appointments or even screens the patients. That is all done by Porter and

his secretary. While I agree that Ralph Moss really dropped the ball on this

one, I feel there are a lot of problems that occured as a result of Dr.

Porter. He needs to be held accountable. He has continued to open up

clinics in Europe and is now in Australia and I have not heard of him

addressing any of these problems. By the way, I think some of you would be

interesting in knowing that Dr. Porter is an optomologist. My husband has

just returned from the clinic and plans to give a full report on this list of

what he saw and his impression of the treatment. It will be very

interesting.

[Guest guest]

...your post was very interesting. I hope we hear from your husband

soon on his experience in Germany and how the treatment went for his mother. Did

he meet Deluca who was also going from this e-mail group?? I have breast

cancer and am trying to decide weather to go to the Germany clinic or to go to

the Aiden clinic in Arizona for their version of CLT which I believe is to use

an oral med from Spirolina but forgo the laser lights and just use the LED

lights.

I hope your mother-in-law is doing well. My best to you all and I look forward

to reading your husbands report. Judy Hoffman

Re: RE:Re: CLT & PDT

Sammy,

While I agree that someone should do more for the Ireland patients of CLT,

I beleive the responsibility is actually on Dr. Porter. He is one of the

doctors who ran the clinic in Ireland and who is in charge of CLT in most of

the clinics in Europe, including the Hufeland clinic. Dr. Woeppel (the

doctor who runs the Hufeland clinic in Germany) does not even book the

appointments or even screens the patients. That is all done by Porter and

his secretary. While I agree that Ralph Moss really dropped the ball on this

one, I feel there are a lot of problems that occured as a result of Dr.

Porter. He needs to be held accountable. He has continued to open up

clinics in Europe and is now in Australia and I have not heard of him

addressing any of these problems. By the way, I think some of you would be

interesting in knowing that Dr. Porter is an optomologist. My husband has

just returned from the clinic and plans to give a full report on this list of

what he saw and his impression of the treatment. It will be very

interesting.

[Guest guest]

...your post was very interesting. I hope we hear from your husband

soon on his experience in Germany and how the treatment went for his mother. Did

he meet Deluca who was also going from this e-mail group?? I have breast

cancer and am trying to decide weather to go to the Germany clinic or to go to

the Aiden clinic in Arizona for their version of CLT which I believe is to use

an oral med from Spirolina but forgo the laser lights and just use the LED

lights.

I hope your mother-in-law is doing well. My best to you all and I look forward

to reading your husbands report. Judy Hoffman

Re: RE:Re: CLT & PDT

Sammy,

While I agree that someone should do more for the Ireland patients of CLT,

I beleive the responsibility is actually on Dr. Porter. He is one of the

doctors who ran the clinic in Ireland and who is in charge of CLT in most of

the clinics in Europe, including the Hufeland clinic. Dr. Woeppel (the

doctor who runs the Hufeland clinic in Germany) does not even book the

appointments or even screens the patients. That is all done by Porter and

his secretary. While I agree that Ralph Moss really dropped the ball on this

one, I feel there are a lot of problems that occured as a result of Dr.

Porter. He needs to be held accountable. He has continued to open up

clinics in Europe and is now in Australia and I have not heard of him

addressing any of these problems. By the way, I think some of you would be

interesting in knowing that Dr. Porter is an optomologist. My husband has

just returned from the clinic and plans to give a full report on this list of

what he saw and his impression of the treatment. It will be very

interesting.

[Guest guest]

Judy one important thing you should do with the Aidan clinic is to ask a

prove with a laser , in one second you can see if the agent they use is the

same as the agent they use in Germany becauce you can see at a screen where

your tumors are.

Using the LEDlight might be beter in treating then with laser but the

diagnostic value of laser and the special camera is your prove that the

agent is the same.

Gr. kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Re: RE:Re: CLT & PDT

>

>

> Sammy,

> While I agree that someone should do more for the Ireland patients of

CLT,

> I beleive the responsibility is actually on Dr. Porter. He is one of

the

> doctors who ran the clinic in Ireland and who is in charge of CLT in

most of

> the clinics in Europe, including the Hufeland clinic. Dr. Woeppel (the

> doctor who runs the Hufeland clinic in Germany) does not even book the

> appointments or even screens the patients. That is all done by Porter

and

> his secretary. While I agree that Ralph Moss really dropped the ball on

this

> one, I feel there are a lot of problems that occured as a result of Dr.

> Porter. He needs to be held accountable. He has continued to open up

> clinics in Europe and is now in Australia and I have not heard of him

> addressing any of these problems. By the way, I think some of you would

be

> interesting in knowing that Dr. Porter is an optomologist. My husband

has

> just returned from the clinic and plans to give a full report on this

list of

> what he saw and his impression of the treatment. It will be very

> interesting.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Judy one important thing you should do with the Aidan clinic is to ask a

prove with a laser , in one second you can see if the agent they use is the

same as the agent they use in Germany becauce you can see at a screen where

your tumors are.

Using the LEDlight might be beter in treating then with laser but the

diagnostic value of laser and the special camera is your prove that the

agent is the same.

Gr. kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Re: RE:Re: CLT & PDT

>

>

> Sammy,

> While I agree that someone should do more for the Ireland patients of

CLT,

> I beleive the responsibility is actually on Dr. Porter. He is one of

the

> doctors who ran the clinic in Ireland and who is in charge of CLT in

most of

> the clinics in Europe, including the Hufeland clinic. Dr. Woeppel (the

> doctor who runs the Hufeland clinic in Germany) does not even book the

> appointments or even screens the patients. That is all done by Porter

and

> his secretary. While I agree that Ralph Moss really dropped the ball on

this

> one, I feel there are a lot of problems that occured as a result of Dr.

> Porter. He needs to be held accountable. He has continued to open up

> clinics in Europe and is now in Australia and I have not heard of him

> addressing any of these problems. By the way, I think some of you would

be

> interesting in knowing that Dr. Porter is an optomologist. My husband

has

> just returned from the clinic and plans to give a full report on this

list of

> what he saw and his impression of the treatment. It will be very

> interesting.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Catharine will your husband e-mail me personal please so we could excahge

our experineces in our opinion of the CLT , the clinic etc. I also was

there two times now and spoke several times to all people also Dr. porter.

Ralph Moss etc. etc.

Gr. kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Re: RE:Re: CLT & PDT

> Sammy,

> While I agree that someone should do more for the Ireland patients of

CLT,

> I beleive the responsibility is actually on Dr. Porter. He is one of the

> doctors who ran the clinic in Ireland and who is in charge of CLT in most

of

> the clinics in Europe, including the Hufeland clinic. Dr. Woeppel (the

> doctor who runs the Hufeland clinic in Germany) does not even book the

> appointments or even screens the patients. That is all done by Porter and

> his secretary. While I agree that Ralph Moss really dropped the ball on

this

> one, I feel there are a lot of problems that occured as a result of Dr.

> Porter. He needs to be held accountable. He has continued to open up

> clinics in Europe and is now in Australia and I have not heard of him

> addressing any of these problems. By the way, I think some of you would

be

> interesting in knowing that Dr. Porter is an optomologist. My husband has

> just returned from the clinic and plans to give a full report on this list

of

> what he saw and his impression of the treatment. It will be very

> interesting.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Catharine will your husband e-mail me personal please so we could excahge

our experineces in our opinion of the CLT , the clinic etc. I also was

there two times now and spoke several times to all people also Dr. porter.

Ralph Moss etc. etc.

Gr. kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Re: RE:Re: CLT & PDT

> Sammy,

> While I agree that someone should do more for the Ireland patients of

CLT,

> I beleive the responsibility is actually on Dr. Porter. He is one of the

> doctors who ran the clinic in Ireland and who is in charge of CLT in most

of

> the clinics in Europe, including the Hufeland clinic. Dr. Woeppel (the

> doctor who runs the Hufeland clinic in Germany) does not even book the

> appointments or even screens the patients. That is all done by Porter and

> his secretary. While I agree that Ralph Moss really dropped the ball on

this

> one, I feel there are a lot of problems that occured as a result of Dr.

> Porter. He needs to be held accountable. He has continued to open up

> clinics in Europe and is now in Australia and I have not heard of him

> addressing any of these problems. By the way, I think some of you would

be

> interesting in knowing that Dr. Porter is an optomologist. My husband has

> just returned from the clinic and plans to give a full report on this list

of

> what he saw and his impression of the treatment. It will be very

> interesting.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with you .

I also believe the doctors responsible for creating this debacle In Ireland

should be made accountable.

When I mentioned the Hufeland Clinic I assumed Porter had a hand in it, and

in no way meant that Woeppel should carry the can for him.

I have included the previous comments in a [ ***** .. thread below ...

***** ] for continuity.

In answer to the questions put in [ ***** below ] Dr. Woeppel [DW] answers

as follows:

[DW] > .... after having read the e-mail of Sammy, I must clearly say that

I can not give medical advices by phone or by e-mail to patients which I

don't know. In case of cancer it is not so easy to find out the best way. I

must have seen a patient and I must have exact information about his disease

otherwise I can not give any proposals. If someone has really problems he

may arrange a date with my secretary (phone 49 7931 5360) to come over and

bring with all medical reports from the beginning of the disease. Than we

can think about therapeutic options. In case of severe complications you

should find a good oncologist at home who supervises you and who than may

discuss with me possible treatment options.

Nevertheless I am interested to be informed what happened after your

treatment in Ireland. If you want, it would be nice to answer following

questions:

1. When was your first treatment with CLT and how did you feel during the

first 2-3 weeks after CLT (better, the same, worse)

2. When did your situation get worse

3. What happened

4. What side effects some of you are suffering from

5. Are these really side effects or is the disease progressing as CLT did

not work

6. Did you have any benefit

Thanks for your cooperation

Sincerely

Dr. Wolfgang Woeppel

Hufeland Klinik

Bad Mergentheim

Germany .. end [DW]

Comment: Telephone but no email address detail given in this correspondence.

But try WDrwoeppel@...

I continue:-

So you see, even Dr. Woeppel would be willing to help in a limited way

despite coming from nowhere in all this. Well I assume he is coming from

nowhere, and has no knowledge of or responsibility for, the way patients

have been treated at the East Clinic.

Dr Woeppel says " .. I can not give medical advices by phone or by e-mail to

patients which I don't know. .. " Agree this is a problematic issue. But

anyone dealing with patients who travel large (international) distances, and

who operates a 'franchise' over a distributed network of Clinics SHOULD be

offering telephone and email support. This is something Porter has to

address and to coordinate at a practical level, not Woeppel.

By way of exemplary example, in the prostate cancer community we have a FREE

email support and advice service provided by some of the very best

oncologists and urologists in North America. See

http://www.prostatepointers.org and look for the

P2P@... mailing list found within the 'Mailing List and

Support Groups' option. The PC community have developed a kind of shorthand

to describe their treatments and conditions called a prostate cancer digest

(PCD) just a history really:

DoB | Dx-date | PSA | Primary symptoms & other markers | Histology report

Date | PSA | Testosterone & other markers | Treatment ongoing ..

Date | PSA | Testosterone & other markers | Treatment

Therefore I propose that anyone with aftercare problems contact DR. Woeppel

for what advice he can give. There is a web site which gives his email:

http://www.nfam.org/treatment/clinichufeland.html so if anyone REALLY wants

to access aftercare support here is a to make a start. I would be very

interested to know what the response is.

Maybe it is worth repeating this from Judy Hoffman

[JH] > ...your post was very interesting. I hope we hear from your

husband soon on his experience in Germany and how the treatment went for his

mother. Did he meet Deluca who was also going from this e-mail group??

I have breast cancer and am trying to decide weather to go to the Germany

clinic or to go to the Aiden clinic in Arizona for their version of CLT

which I believe is to use an oral med from Spirolina but forgo the laser

lights and just use the LED lights. I hope your mother-in-law is doing well.

My best to you all and I look forward to reading your husbands report. Judy

Hoffman

The writing is on the wall - if Porter does not get his act together **

compassion - wise ** then potential patients will read about these horror

stories and vote with their feet. The Aiden clinic in Arizona is just one

alternative, there are more springing up everyday.

Cheers,

Sammy.

* [it seems strange that you or I could set up such a clinic quite legally !

In the UK there have been horror stories such as this with cosmetic surgeons

who are not medically qualified walking away from the courts after they have

disfigured their 'patients'. There is something profoundly wrong with the

law as it stands, and it is clearly a big 'Come On' for anyone with a

so-called cancer cure to try it out on unsuspecting patients. ]

Re: CLT & PDT

Dear Sammy and all others interested,

There is so much going on behind the curtains as we say in Holland that I

cann't tell you all. but I agree with Sammy that there is only one thing

important and that is the effect of the CLT.

I can say that more and more patients tell that they start to get good

effects from the CLT. Yesterday I spoke (and saw medical reports and scans)

with a man with metastised prostatecancer and his orthomolecular physician.

Three days after the CLT (first week of january 2003) his PSA lowerde to 0.2

and last week 0.1. Zoladex etc. stabilised his PSA since october 2002 in a

range between 37.0 till 30.8 (the lowest till the CLT treatment happened).

This man told me he has no pain any longer, can cycle again, runs even some

km everyday and feels very very well. Before he couldn't cycle from the

pain, had no energy etc. etc. Ofcourse we have to wait longer time of the

feelings of welness also have results in minimizing the tumors but I sam how

bad he was before the CLT on scans with tumors everywhere and his physician

told me he was very surprised about the results and told me also though this

man also uses now a diet and certain supplements the drastic lowering of the

PSA and his quality of life can only be caused in this dramatic good way by

the CLT.

More wil follow about him.

got some bad news last week in Germany when we saw there on the screen

was still cancer in het breast and even the doctor thought there were new

metastises and he was scared for her liver and bones, but at least yesterday

an echo from her liver showed no cancer, the liver was completely clean and

functioned very well as the markers told . also her tumormarkers lowered

from last research in december 2002 with more then 30 procent. end this week

she will receive the results of a lungscan and bonescan. So not al is really

good but still there are promising facts.

I will keep you all informed also about some other patients whom wrote me

they are doing not bad, even some wrote me they think they are doing

actually better then before the CLT.

Gr. kees braam

webvmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Ralph Moss, CLT and respect

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[Guest guest]

I agree with you .

I also believe the doctors responsible for creating this debacle In Ireland

should be made accountable.

When I mentioned the Hufeland Clinic I assumed Porter had a hand in it, and

in no way meant that Woeppel should carry the can for him.

I have included the previous comments in a [ ***** .. thread below ...

***** ] for continuity.

In answer to the questions put in [ ***** below ] Dr. Woeppel [DW] answers

as follows:

[DW] > .... after having read the e-mail of Sammy, I must clearly say that

I can not give medical advices by phone or by e-mail to patients which I

don't know. In case of cancer it is not so easy to find out the best way. I

must have seen a patient and I must have exact information about his disease

otherwise I can not give any proposals. If someone has really problems he

may arrange a date with my secretary (phone 49 7931 5360) to come over and

bring with all medical reports from the beginning of the disease. Than we

can think about therapeutic options. In case of severe complications you

should find a good oncologist at home who supervises you and who than may

discuss with me possible treatment options.

Nevertheless I am interested to be informed what happened after your

treatment in Ireland. If you want, it would be nice to answer following

questions:

1. When was your first treatment with CLT and how did you feel during the

first 2-3 weeks after CLT (better, the same, worse)

2. When did your situation get worse

3. What happened

4. What side effects some of you are suffering from

5. Are these really side effects or is the disease progressing as CLT did

not work

6. Did you have any benefit

Thanks for your cooperation

Sincerely

Dr. Wolfgang Woeppel

Hufeland Klinik

Bad Mergentheim

Germany .. end [DW]

Comment: Telephone but no email address detail given in this correspondence.

But try WDrwoeppel@...

I continue:-

So you see, even Dr. Woeppel would be willing to help in a limited way

despite coming from nowhere in all this. Well I assume he is coming from

nowhere, and has no knowledge of or responsibility for, the way patients

have been treated at the East Clinic.

Dr Woeppel says " .. I can not give medical advices by phone or by e-mail to

patients which I don't know. .. " Agree this is a problematic issue. But

anyone dealing with patients who travel large (international) distances, and

who operates a 'franchise' over a distributed network of Clinics SHOULD be

offering telephone and email support. This is something Porter has to

address and to coordinate at a practical level, not Woeppel.

By way of exemplary example, in the prostate cancer community we have a FREE

email support and advice service provided by some of the very best

oncologists and urologists in North America. See

http://www.prostatepointers.org and look for the

P2P@... mailing list found within the 'Mailing List and

Support Groups' option. The PC community have developed a kind of shorthand

to describe their treatments and conditions called a prostate cancer digest

(PCD) just a history really:

DoB | Dx-date | PSA | Primary symptoms & other markers | Histology report

Date | PSA | Testosterone & other markers | Treatment ongoing ..

Date | PSA | Testosterone & other markers | Treatment

Therefore I propose that anyone with aftercare problems contact DR. Woeppel

for what advice he can give. There is a web site which gives his email:

http://www.nfam.org/treatment/clinichufeland.html so if anyone REALLY wants

to access aftercare support here is a to make a start. I would be very

interested to know what the response is.

Maybe it is worth repeating this from Judy Hoffman

[JH] > ...your post was very interesting. I hope we hear from your

husband soon on his experience in Germany and how the treatment went for his

mother. Did he meet Deluca who was also going from this e-mail group??

I have breast cancer and am trying to decide weather to go to the Germany

clinic or to go to the Aiden clinic in Arizona for their version of CLT

which I believe is to use an oral med from Spirolina but forgo the laser

lights and just use the LED lights. I hope your mother-in-law is doing well.

My best to you all and I look forward to reading your husbands report. Judy

Hoffman

The writing is on the wall - if Porter does not get his act together **

compassion - wise ** then potential patients will read about these horror

stories and vote with their feet. The Aiden clinic in Arizona is just one

alternative, there are more springing up everyday.

Cheers,

Sammy.

* [it seems strange that you or I could set up such a clinic quite legally !

In the UK there have been horror stories such as this with cosmetic surgeons

who are not medically qualified walking away from the courts after they have

disfigured their 'patients'. There is something profoundly wrong with the

law as it stands, and it is clearly a big 'Come On' for anyone with a

so-called cancer cure to try it out on unsuspecting patients. ]

Re: CLT & PDT

Dear Sammy and all others interested,

There is so much going on behind the curtains as we say in Holland that I

cann't tell you all. but I agree with Sammy that there is only one thing

important and that is the effect of the CLT.

I can say that more and more patients tell that they start to get good

effects from the CLT. Yesterday I spoke (and saw medical reports and scans)

with a man with metastised prostatecancer and his orthomolecular physician.

Three days after the CLT (first week of january 2003) his PSA lowerde to 0.2

and last week 0.1. Zoladex etc. stabilised his PSA since october 2002 in a

range between 37.0 till 30.8 (the lowest till the CLT treatment happened).

This man told me he has no pain any longer, can cycle again, runs even some

km everyday and feels very very well. Before he couldn't cycle from the

pain, had no energy etc. etc. Ofcourse we have to wait longer time of the

feelings of welness also have results in minimizing the tumors but I sam how

bad he was before the CLT on scans with tumors everywhere and his physician

told me he was very surprised about the results and told me also though this

man also uses now a diet and certain supplements the drastic lowering of the

PSA and his quality of life can only be caused in this dramatic good way by

the CLT.

More wil follow about him.

got some bad news last week in Germany when we saw there on the screen

was still cancer in het breast and even the doctor thought there were new

metastises and he was scared for her liver and bones, but at least yesterday

an echo from her liver showed no cancer, the liver was completely clean and

functioned very well as the markers told . also her tumormarkers lowered

from last research in december 2002 with more then 30 procent. end this week

she will receive the results of a lungscan and bonescan. So not al is really

good but still there are promising facts.

I will keep you all informed also about some other patients whom wrote me

they are doing not bad, even some wrote me they think they are doing

actually better then before the CLT.

Gr. kees braam

webvmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Ralph Moss, CLT and respect

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TABLE 5. Adverse Events Reported in 5% or More of Patientsa with Obstructing

Esophageal Cancer

BODY SYSTEM/

Adverse Event Number (%) of Patients

n=88

Patients with at Least One Adverse Event 84 (95%)

AUTONOMIC NERVOUS SYSTEM

Hypertension 5 (6%)

Hypotension 6 (7%)

BODY AS A WHOLE

Asthenia 5 (6%)

Back pain 10 (11%)

Chest pain 19 (22%)

Chest pain (substernal) 4 (5%)

Edema generalized 4 (5%)

Edema peripheral 6 (7%)

Fever 27 (31%)

Pain 19 (22%)

Surgical complication 4 (5%)

CARDIOVASCULAR

Cardiac failure 6 (7%)

GASTROINTESTINAL

Abdominal pain 18 (20%)

Constipation 21 (24%)

Diarrhea 4 (5%)

Dyspepsia 5 (6%)

Dysphagia 9 (10%)

Eructation 4 (5%)

Esophageal edema 7 (8%)

Esophageal tumor bleeding 7 (8%)

Esophageal stricture 5 (6%)

Esophagitis 4 (5%)

Hematemesis 7 (8%)

Melena 4 (5%)

Nausea 21 (24%)

Vomiting 15 (17%)

HEART RATE/RHYTHM

Atrial fibrillation 9 (10%)

Tachycardia 5 (6%)

METABOLIC & NUTRITIONAL

Dehydration 6 (7%)

Weight decrease 8 (9%)

PSYCHIATRIC

Anorexia 7 (8%)

Anxiety 6 (7%)

Confusion 7 (8%)

Insomnia 12 (14%)

RED BLOOD CELL

Anemia 28 (32%)

RESISTANCE MECHANISM

Moniliasis 8 (9%)

RESPIRATORY

Coughing 6 (7%)

Dyspnea 18 (20%)

Pharyngitis 10 (11%)

Pleural effusion 28 (32%)

Pneumonia 16 (18%)

Respiratory insufficiency 9 (10%)

Tracheoesophageal fistula 5 (6%)

SKIN & APPENDAGES

Photosensitivity reaction 17 (19%)

URINARY

Urinary tract infection 6 (7%)

Re: CLT & PDT

Dear Sammy and all others interested,

There is so much going on behind the curtains as we say in Holland that I

cann't tell you all. but I agree with Sammy that there is only one thing

important and that is the effect of the CLT.

I can say that more and more patients tell that they start to get good

effects from the CLT. Yesterday I spoke (and saw medical reports and scans)

with a man with metastised prostatecancer and his orthomolecular physician.

Three days after the CLT (first week of january 2003) his PSA lowerde to 0.2

and last week 0.1. Zoladex etc. stabilised his PSA since october 2002 in a

range between 37.0 till 30.8 (the lowest till the CLT treatment happened).

This man told me he has no pain any longer, can cycle again, runs even some

km everyday and feels very very well. Before he couldn't cycle from the

pain, had no energy etc. etc. Ofcourse we have to wait longer time of the

feelings of welness also have results in minimizing the tumors but I sam how

bad he was before the CLT on scans with tumors everywhere and his physician

told me he was very surprised about the results and told me also though this

man also uses now a diet and certain supplements the drastic lowering of the

PSA and his quality of life can only be caused in this dramatic good way by

the CLT.

More wil follow about him.

got some bad news last week in Germany when we saw there on the screen

was still cancer in het breast and even the doctor thought there were new

metastises and he was scared for her liver and bones, but at least yesterday

an echo from her liver showed no cancer, the liver was completely clean and

functioned very well as the markers told . also her tumormarkers lowered

from last research in december 2002 with more then 30 procent. end this week

she will receive the results of a lungscan and bonescan. So not al is really

good but still there are promising facts.

I will keep you all informed also about some other patients whom wrote me

they are doing not bad, even some wrote me they think they are doing

actually better then before the CLT.

Gr. kees braam

webvmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Ralph Moss, CLT and respect

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TABLE 5. Adverse Events Reported in 5% or More of Patientsa with Obstructing

Esophageal Cancer

BODY SYSTEM/

Adverse Event Number (%) of Patients

n=88

Patients with at Least One Adverse Event 84 (95%)

AUTONOMIC NERVOUS SYSTEM

Hypertension 5 (6%)

Hypotension 6 (7%)

BODY AS A WHOLE

Asthenia 5 (6%)

Back pain 10 (11%)

Chest pain 19 (22%)

Chest pain (substernal) 4 (5%)

Edema generalized 4 (5%)

Edema peripheral 6 (7%)

Fever 27 (31%)

Pain 19 (22%)

Surgical complication 4 (5%)

CARDIOVASCULAR

Cardiac failure 6 (7%)

GASTROINTESTINAL

Abdominal pain 18 (20%)

Constipation 21 (24%)

Diarrhea 4 (5%)

Dyspepsia 5 (6%)

Dysphagia 9 (10%)

Eructation 4 (5%)

Esophageal edema 7 (8%)

Esophageal tumor bleeding 7 (8%)

Esophageal stricture 5 (6%)

Esophagitis 4 (5%)

Hematemesis 7 (8%)

Melena 4 (5%)

Nausea 21 (24%)

Vomiting 15 (17%)

HEART RATE/RHYTHM

Atrial fibrillation 9 (10%)

Tachycardia 5 (6%)

METABOLIC & NUTRITIONAL

Dehydration 6 (7%)

Weight decrease 8 (9%)

PSYCHIATRIC

Anorexia 7 (8%)

Anxiety 6 (7%)

Confusion 7 (8%)

Insomnia 12 (14%)

RED BLOOD CELL

Anemia 28 (32%)

RESISTANCE MECHANISM

Moniliasis 8 (9%)

RESPIRATORY

Coughing 6 (7%)

Dyspnea 18 (20%)

Pharyngitis 10 (11%)

Pleural effusion 28 (32%)

Pneumonia 16 (18%)

Respiratory insufficiency 9 (10%)

Tracheoesophageal fistula 5 (6%)

SKIN & APPENDAGES

Photosensitivity reaction 17 (19%)

URINARY

Urinary tract infection 6 (7%)

Re: CLT & PDT

Dear Sammy and all others interested,

There is so much going on behind the curtains as we say in Holland that I

cann't tell you all. but I agree with Sammy that there is only one thing

important and that is the effect of the CLT.

I can say that more and more patients tell that they start to get good

effects from the CLT. Yesterday I spoke (and saw medical reports and scans)

with a man with metastised prostatecancer and his orthomolecular physician.

Three days after the CLT (first week of january 2003) his PSA lowerde to 0.2

and last week 0.1. Zoladex etc. stabilised his PSA since october 2002 in a

range between 37.0 till 30.8 (the lowest till the CLT treatment happened).

This man told me he has no pain any longer, can cycle again, runs even some

km everyday and feels very very well. Before he couldn't cycle from the

pain, had no energy etc. etc. Ofcourse we have to wait longer time of the

feelings of welness also have results in minimizing the tumors but I sam how

bad he was before the CLT on scans with tumors everywhere and his physician

told me he was very surprised about the results and told me also though this

man also uses now a diet and certain supplements the drastic lowering of the

PSA and his quality of life can only be caused in this dramatic good way by

the CLT.

More wil follow about him.

got some bad news last week in Germany when we saw there on the screen

was still cancer in het breast and even the doctor thought there were new

metastises and he was scared for her liver and bones, but at least yesterday

an echo from her liver showed no cancer, the liver was completely clean and

functioned very well as the markers told . also her tumormarkers lowered

from last research in december 2002 with more then 30 procent. end this week

she will receive the results of a lungscan and bonescan. So not al is really

good but still there are promising facts.

I will keep you all informed also about some other patients whom wrote me

they are doing not bad, even some wrote me they think they are doing

actually better then before the CLT.

Gr. kees braam

webvmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Ralph Moss, CLT and respect

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