Re: Flax Oil & Vit. C/reply

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Cheryl:

Vitamin C is oxidative in higher doses...low doses (under 5 grams per

day) it is an antioxidant because it primarily strengthens/reactivates

E and A...if it has the whole bioflavanoid complex and not just chemical

L-Ascorbic (which is not found alone in nature but always bound to bioflavanoids

and vitamin K)...It becomes progressively oxidative with greater doses.

Remember there is always a give and take...the same substance which can

be oxidative one minute becomes antioxidant the next (Redox chemistry...)...

I thought Flaxseed oil was NOT oxidative primarily...its electrons balance

free radical damage and acts more as an antioxidant if anything from what

I understand Budwig's & others studies show...??

Maybe Vince has some thoughts here?...

Dr.Bormann

Cheryl Wilburn wrote:

Hi Group,

The question about taking Vit. C with flax oil reminded me of an interesting

study that I had read. Unfortunately, I am away from home and can't

find the original reference, but from memory.... A study was done

in mice that showed that because flax oil is readily taken up by tumor

cells and is highly oxidative it acted as sort of a natural form of chemotherapy.

In effect, the cancer cells were more subject to free radical damage due

to the oil. It would seem that the use of antioxidant therapy would

offset this effect. Cliff, do you know if those who have had the

most success with the flax oil therapy have used the therapy alone, or

along with other therapies?

Cheryl W.

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:56:27 -0400

From: GABRIELAMIEL88@...

Subject: To CLIFF: is it necessary to take...?

Hi Cliff:

Is it NECESSARY to take vitamin C, when we are taking

COTTAGE CHEESE AND FLAXOIL? because of not, it will not do

any good? I know you know a lot about it.

Gaby.

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EFA's such as found in Flaxseed oil probably have a number of beneficial activities. One is that they push fatty acid cascade toward prostaglandins of the 1 and 3 variety and away for type 2. The result is decreased inflammatory response by interfering with the cyclooxygenase 2 (COX2) pathways. There is good data that many cancers use cox 2 pathways for progression and metastases. This is why Life Extension Foundation and others recommend 2 inhibitors (Lodine, Celebrex, Vioxx) as adjunctive cancer therapy. Apparantly this effect can be increased significantly by using statins as well (Mevacor for example). Statins have an effect on RAS oncogenese regulation. You can read about these two issues here

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-027.shtml

EFA's also help with creating a healthy lipid bi-layer in the cell wall, and also have an effect modulating the immune system. I am sure I am just scratching the surface.

Best,

[ Guthrie] To CLIFF: is it necessary to take...? Hi Cliff: Is it NECESSARY to take vitamin C, when we are taking COTTAGE CHEESE AND FLAXOIL? because of not, it will not do any good? I know you know a lot about it. Gaby. Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv