Re: chemo not working, need support

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In a message dated 9/17/2001 4:34:56 AM Central Daylight Time, hahnt@... writes:

.. I do have a very good supplement program, a very clean diet, and do accupuncture, exercise, meditation, and visualization.

Tricia,

Try meditating on God's word. You will find not only peace, but strength. The joy of the Lord is your stength and His peace is something we cannot work up or find on earth apart from Him.

If you are a Christian, a person who accepts Jesus Christ as Lord in their life and believes with your heart that he came from heaven through a virgin, born in flesh, all man and all God and died for our sins and rose from the dead, and you do this in faith, you are a Christian. Once you choose to take a step of faith that God is real, then He will manifest Himself to you by witnessing with your spirit that you are truly a son of God. If you haven't done this, please consider doing that and test God's word. He said every word of God can be tested. It takes a step of faith and then all the proof one could ever have will enlighted you as to the only true God. He did not do this as a way to minimize a way to be reconcilled to Him, He did it so we could be reconcilled to Him. It is not about what religion is right, it is about meeting Him and Him showing you the way, the truth and life. His Spirit will lead you into all truth.

I share this because the devil has counterfeits to keep us from the truth and acupuncture and other healing modalities are counterfeits that have strings attached that you don't want. Remember the magicians in Pharoahs house were able to mock the things God was doing, however, God's power is above anything of satan. Satan is created and God is the creator.

I pray you will think about accept Christ and not assume you know anything. I know it is the humility of realizing we don't have the answers that God honors. He opposses the proud, but gives grace to the humble. I was proud until I was 40 and good and miserable, so miserable, I finally admitted my life was not getting better, but rather worse, I had no answers, I had nothing but questions, frustrations and, lots of fears. But wow, when I humbled myself before God, His mercy and grace was so real and He literally opened my eyes to see the truth. I did not realize how blind I was, I was blinded by pride and thinking I could do it on my own. Now I can do anything through Him and He has wisdom to give us and all we have to do is ask.

I am sorry, I am so in love with Him and so happy that He is always there for me and always has time for all who come to Him. I can't help but share how awesome God is and how real He wants to be to all who call upon Him and believe on His Son Jesus, who made a way to be reconcilled back to God as Adam was in the Garden. The devil is under our feet and has no power over us in Jesus name. That is why satan has so many "religions" that lead you away from Jesus in some form, and if he can't keep you away from Jesus, he lies about the power we have in Christ. So many walk in Christ, yet deny the power of God that has been made available to us. Power to walk a Godly life, power over the lies of the devil, power to receiving healing and live a life abundantly.

I pray you received this in the right spirit and are not offended.

In Christ's love

Diann Messer

This webpage will give you more information about Christ and how to receive what He has for all who ask.

Christian Heart

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THan ...did you check out the www.iptq.org page and look for a dr. that does it in your area. It would seem to me to be alot easier to do than what your faced with and read the story of the woman on the page.

chemo not working, need support

Hi All,

I'm newly BC mets and started on weekly low dose Taxotere a month ago. Just finished my 5th treatment and got a lung x-ray to check progress(cancer is in liver/lungs). The x-ray showed a slight progression of the cancer and a pleural effusion (fluid in lung) which means the onc. needs to switch me to a new chemo. But! He is on vacation for a week and I won't know anything until Sept. 24. It's hard not knowing what's next and so discouraging to have the Taxotere not work. I'm just scared, and afraid that's what's ahead of me is one chemo after another until ???? Some of the drugs that have been mentioned to me as possibilities are: Doxil, Epirubicin, Navelbine, Xeloda, Gemcitibine and platinum. Which are the least toxic/most easily tolerated? I have Porphyria, a liver disorder, which simply put means my liver doesn't work as well as it should and as a result chemo drugs are much more toxic to me. Part of what is so disappointing is that I had such an easy time with the Taxotere.

This list is great, but I also feel overwhelmed with all of the new things I see mentioned. Making choices among all of the alternatives is difficult too. I do have a very good supplement program, a very clean diet, and do accupuncture, exercise, meditation, and visualization.

Thanks for any encouragement or ideas.

TriciaGet HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

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In a message dated 9/17/01 10:31:45 AM, eat2heal@... writes:

>Tricia,

>Spirit will lead you into all truth.

>

>I share this because the devil has counterfeits to keep us from the truth

>and

>acupuncture and other healing modalities are counterfeits that have strings

>

>attached that you don't want.

>I pray you received this in the right spirit and are not offended.

What a crock. Acupuncture, and all other healing modalities are created

by the satan???????????????????????????????????????

Where do you get off preach this nonsense on this forum. I thought we were

about exploring all healing modalities to help people with cancer. Not a

soap box to preach your ideas of god.

Klaus

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In a message dated 9/18/01 7:54:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Skibelt@... writes:

I thought we were about exploring all healing modalities to help people with cancer.

God's word is a source of healing and your anger and rejection of it is your problem and your problems should be kept to yourself. There are plenty of souls wanting the truth of God's words and God's word says that He sent His word for our healing. You have no right to demand that God is not a source of healing. God's word is truth and our creator is not a man that He should lie. Your anomosity is not protecting any body, nor are you concerned with truth, you just want your truth and others who disagree with "your" truth anger you. It is my truth that God's word clearly says that we are to avoid all forms of witchcraft and witchcraft does try to mock God's healing power. Acupunture is not based on science it is based on religion and it is not from the God of the Bible. If you reject the Bible that is fine, that is your business, but it is not your business to tell others they have no right to hear about what the Bible says about healing.

So you can reject that if you want, but you have no right to tell me or others we have no right to share this truth with others.

God Bless you

Diann Messer

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In a message dated 9/18/01 9:54:11 AM Central Daylight Time, Skibelt@... writes:

Where do you get off preach this nonsense on this forum. I thought we were about exploring all healing modalities to help people with cancer. Not a soap box to preach your ideas of god.

Klaus

Well said Klaus! Ty!!!!

Noel

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I didn't say that you don't have a right to share what you believe, no matter how rediculous it is. This is an email list for those looking for alternative mods of healing cancer. If you want to share this dribble go to the christians forums.

The problem I see with fundamentalists is that they never evolve. Acupuncture???????? a religion????????????// that just goes to shows how much you know. Acupuncture is is a 5000 year old science. It was proven with modern day science, back in th 20's in america, when they first started working with electronics. Those researchers, ( who's names excape me at this time) mapped out the intire meridian system, just as it was layed out in these 5000 year old texts.

To "Christians" everything that may appear to be different than what they know from their church is always called witchcraft. Did you know that there were no witches in Salem. Those "Christians" tortured and burned their friends, family and neighbors, because of food poisoning. Is this really what you are wanting.

Another point,,,,,,,,, Why is it that you are subscribed to this list, if you feel that all other forms of healing are witchcraft or satanic?

And,,,,,,,,,, most witchs do believe in god, and jesus's message. Witchcraft is not of the devil. But your thinking and attitude is most definitly. Did Jesus teach tolerance for other peoples ways????????

I'm not apposed to hearing about god. but you put your rediculous beliefs into these messages. I've been through all that and it's not what I believe. that's why I don't go to the religous forums. Jesus did not die for our sins, that's nonsense. It's like me going out and murdering someone and you going to jail for to atone for that sin. Jesus is not our savior, he is just a messenger that came to bring us information that we need to get back to god. Following someone that is holding a picture of him is not going to get you back to god. Only living the principles that were contained in his message can do that. Accepting god into my life is not going to cure my cancer. Living the principles that jesus brought us, dealing with the physical body and the emotions, and connecting to god is the only thing that will do that. so stop pushing your beliefs on this forum. Unless you can curb your nonsense "religiuos beliefs in the process. Find a way,,,,, or go to the religiuos forums to push this dribble.

Klaus

In a message dated 9/18/01 10:10:45 AM Mountain Daylight Time, eat2heal@... writes:

I thought we were about exploring all healing modalities to help people with cancer.

God's word is a source of healing and your anger and rejection of it is your problem and your problems should be kept to yourself. There are plenty of souls wanting the truth of God's words and God's word says that He sent His word for our healing. You have no right to demand that God is not a source of healing. God's word is truth and our creator is not a man that He should lie. Your anomosity is not protecting any body, nor are you concerned with truth, you just want your truth and others who disagree with "your" truth anger you. It is my truth that God's word clearly says that we are to avoid all forms of witchcraft and witchcraft does try to mock God's healing power. Acupunture is not based on science it is based on religion and it is not from the God of the Bible. If you reject the Bible that is fine, that is your business, but it is not your business to tell others they have no right to hear about what the Bible says about healing.

So you can reject that if you want, but you have no right to tell me or others we have no right to share this truth with others.

God Bless you

Diann Messer

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Your message is of absolutely no comfort to me l and in fact it is offensive. I deleted it after reading the first few sentences. I do not feel that this list is an appropriate forum for your religious beliefs and I think you should keep them to yourself.

Tricia

Re: chemo not working, need support

In a message dated 9/18/01 7:54:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Skibelt@... writes:

I thought we were about exploring all healing modalities to help people with cancer. God's word is a source of healing and your anger and rejection of it is your problem and your problems should be kept to yourself. There are plenty of souls wanting the truth of God's words and God's word says that He sent His word for our healing. You have no right to demand that God is not a source of healing. God's word is truth and our creator is not a man that He should lie. Your anomosity is not protecting any body, nor are you concerned with truth, you just want your truth and others who disagree with "your" truth anger you. It is my truth that God's word clearly says that we are to avoid all forms of witchcraft and witchcraft does try to mock God's healing power. Acupunture is not based on science it is based on religion and it is not from the God of the Bible. If you reject the Bible that is fine, that is your business, but it is not your business to tell others they have no right to hear about what the Bible says about healing. So you can reject that if you want, but you have no right to tell me or others we have no right to share this truth with others. God Bless you Diann Messer Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

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Diann...I am an Acupuncturist and Acupuncture is most definitely not based on any religion.Get a book on it and read about it before you make such ridiculous statements.

You need to join a religious forum so that you have an outlet for your religious zeal. This group is not about our religious views. Judy Hoffman

Re: chemo not working, need support

In a message dated 9/18/01 7:54:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Skibelt@... writes:

I thought we were about exploring all healing modalities to help people with cancer. God's word is a source of healing and your anger and rejection of it is your problem and your problems should be kept to yourself. There are plenty of souls wanting the truth of God's words and God's word says that He sent His word for our healing. You have no right to demand that God is not a source of healing. God's word is truth and our creator is not a man that He should lie. Your anomosity is not protecting any body, nor are you concerned with truth, you just want your truth and others who disagree with "your" truth anger you. It is my truth that God's word clearly says that we are to avoid all forms of witchcraft and witchcraft does try to mock God's healing power. Acupunture is not based on science it is based on religion and it is not from the God of the Bible. If you reject the Bible that is fine, that is your business, but it is not your business to tell others they have no right to hear about what the Bible says about healing. So you can reject that if you want, but you have no right to tell me or others we have no right to share this truth with others. God Bless you Diann Messer Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

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In a message dated 9/18/2001 4:56:10 PM Central Daylight Time, jinouy01@... writes:

Diann...I am an Acupuncturist and Acupuncture is most

>definitely not based on any religion.Get a book on it and read

>about it before you make such ridiculous statements. You need

>to join a religious forum so that you have an outlet for your

>religious zeal. This group is not about our religious views.

>Judy Hoffman

> ----- Original Message -----

Dear Judy,

I have studied all about alternative modalities to include acupunture and it is based on an ancient religion. It is comes from China as does yoga and both are religions. It is based on energies that you don't understand as well. The creator of the Bible is the only source of energy that we should seek and it does take spiritual discernment by the Holy Spirit to discern the truth versus the lie. I discern the truth as I see it by the power of the Holy Spirit and not by my own understanding. You can reject that if you so choose. You can believe what you want about acupuncture and if you don't like what I believe about acupuncture then that is a personal problem. You can differ with me, but that does not make you right. I am saying what I know to be truth and I believe what God's word says. The bottom line is you cannot set your own standard for "righteousness", the only righteous standard is the Lord's word. You don't have a right to tell me God has nothing to do with healing and that I have to find a religious forum. You practice religion in your medicine and ignorance does not change that fact. All forms of "witchcraft, be it yoga, hypnosis or acupuncture whether you like to hear it or not; it is witchcraft. Healing is not a vacuum apart from God because our creator, God is our only source of healing and it is pride that thinks you have anything to do with healing. All we can do is use Godly wisdom to enhance the healing capabilties God has programmed into our cells. Using witchcraft is a sure fire quarantee to bring a curse on your soul. The price is too great and the relief is only temporary and as you know acupuncture provides relief temporarily.

The reason there is lack of understanding about acupuncture is that the source of the energy cannot be understood. I believe this energy source is not natural nor is it something Christians should pursue. God's healing power is not in energy from needles but in His word. The power of the Holy Spirit to effect healing is moved by faith in His word and we do our part by cleaning up our temple and eating foods designed by God in the living form God made them. God has put wisdom in our inward parts and that wisdom is the bodies power to heal itself. There is more intellect in one DNA than a life time of learning. God is the programmer of the DNA! Also, living enzymes are key factors in building strong cells. Seeking alternative "energy forms" for healing always is of a demonic source.

Recent Research using MRI is quoted:

Although acupuncture has been successfully used for thousands of years in China it is still viewed with considerable skepticism by many Western medical practitioners. One of the main stumbling blocks to greater acceptance is the lack of understanding of how it works.

The researchers noted a highly significant correlation between brain activity and needle manipulation. Needle manipulation caused a pronounced calming of activity (decreased signal intensity) in the deep structures (amygdala, hippocampus, hypothalamus, etc.) of the brain accompanied by an increased signal intensity in the somatosensory cortex. They conclude that "modulation of this neuronal network could constitute the initiating steps by which acupuncture regulates multiple physiological systems and achieves diverse therapeutic effect". [62 references]

Hui, Kathleen, K.S., et al. Acupuncture modulates the limbic system and subcortical gray structures of the human brain: evidence from fMRI studies in normal subjects. Human Brain Mapping, Vol. 9, 2000, pp. 13-25

You will note that still the signal intensity is not of a known source. It is only a noticed cause and effect and you can get the same cause and effect from Quija boards or water witching. It is of demonic energies. There are such things as devils and they have one purpose to kill, steal and destroy. They hate humans and deception is their game. Only God's word is able to give one wisdom to discern between good and evil, right and wrong.

Like it or not this is the truth and you can take God out of your life, but you cannot demand others to deal with health problems apart from Godly wisdom. You don't have to believe it, but you don't have the right to tell me I should not share this with people. He sent His Word for our healing! If anything is demonic, be it a Quija board, eight ball, Dungeons and Dragons, Harry Potter, Horoscopes, acupuncture, yoga, you don't touch it. Praying over these things used by devils is not going to remove the curse of depending on them versus God's way of doing things. Wisdom is greater than all the silver and gold. His ways are higher than our ways.

God Bless You

Diann

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In a message dated 9/18/2001 1:57:43 PM Central Daylight Time, Skibelt@... writes:

.. If you want to share this dribble go to the christians forums.

So you think there are no Christians on this forum?

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In a message dated 9/18/2001 1:57:43 PM Central Daylight Time, Skibelt@... writes:

Witchcraft is not of the devil. But your thinking and attitude is most definitly. Did Jesus teach tolerance for other peoples ways????????

Really?

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In a message dated 9/18/2001 1:57:43 PM Central Daylight Time, Skibelt@... writes:

To "Christians" everything that may appear to be different than what they know from their church is always called witchcraft. Did you know that there were no witches in Salem. Those "Christians" tortured and burned their friends, family and neighbors, because of food poisoning. Is this really what you are wanting.

That is rediculous to compare what I shared to that. You are the extremist!

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In a message dated 9/18/2001 1:57:43 PM Central Daylight Time, Skibelt@... writes:

but you put your rediculous beliefs into these messages.

You know I know in my heart that what you believe is a lie, but I don't belittle you for it. I was there once and maybe you should start studying God's word about healing to know what you are really hating and criticizing.

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In a message dated 9/18/2001 1:57:43 PM Central Daylight Time, Skibelt@... writes:

Jesus is not our savior, he is just a messenger that came to bring us information that we need to get back to god.

Read Romans and the book of and see who Jesus is without have preconceived ideas about who Jesus is or is not.

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I read that there are some needles which are used in rituals,

which may have spiritual significance. Needles which are not

used in rituals are O.K.

There is a pastor who is versed in Spiritual Warfare, who says

that unclean spirits can attach itself to objects of worship.

But you can cleanse the object by commanding the spirits to go,

using the Name of Jesus. [The name of Jesus has AUTHORITY in the

spiritual realm.) The pastor says that unclean spirits can also

be transferred through sex. He said many youngsters have

troubles after their first sex experience. He was one of them.

Just use wisdom.

To learn to pray against unclean spirits, cancer, etc., you might

to the following website. They have Faith teachings for

healings.

http://www.cfhunter.org/

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>Diann...I am an Acupuncturist and Acupuncture is most

>definitely not based on any religion.Get a book on it and read

>about it before you make such ridiculous statements. You need

>to join a religious forum so that you have an outlet for your

>religious zeal. This group is not about our religious views.

>Judy Hoffman

> Re: chemo not working, need support

>

>

> In a message dated 9/18/01 7:54:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

>Skibelt@... writes:

>

>

>

> I thought we were

> about exploring all healing modalities to help people with cancer.

>

>

> God's word is a source of healing and your anger and

>rejection of it is your problem and your problems should be

>kept to yourself. There are plenty of souls wanting the truth

>of God's words and God's word says that He sent His word for

>our healing. You have no right to demand that God is not a

>source of healing. God's word is truth and our creator is not

>a man that He should lie. Your anomosity is not protecting any

>body, nor are you concerned with truth, you just want your

>truth and others who disagree with " your " truth anger you. It

>is my truth that God's word clearly says that we are to avoid

>all forms of witchcraft and witchcraft does try to mock God's

>healing power. Acupunture is not based on science it is based

>on religion and it is not from the God of the Bible. If you

>reject the Bible that is fine, that is your business, but it is

>not your business to tell others they have no right to hear

>about what the Bible says about healing.

>

> So you can reject that if you want, but you have no right to

>tell me or others we have no right to share this truth with

>others.

>

> God Bless you

>

> Diann Messer

>

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> energies that you don't understand as well. The creator of the Bible is the only source of >energy that we should seek and it does take spiritual discernment by the Holy Spirit to discern >the truth versus the lie. I discern the truth as I see it by the power of the Holy Spirit and not by

it always amazes me how Christians believe that their way is the ONLY way. not only is this ridiculous, but i doubt seriously that it's how Jesus would teach if he were in the body with us now. In fact, i believe that the way most Christians proselytize and preach AT others would totally turn JC off and embarass him.

please take your comments and zeal to a more appropriate list!

-dianna

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Dianna Rawleigh

www.organicaromatics.com/cancer_cured

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There is absolutely no reason to continue this nonsense discussion. Anyone

that gets all of their information from only one source can't possibly have

all the truth.

Buddha said, Don't believe anything so strongly that when the truth comes

knocking, you won't open the door.

I've been through the bible, and if anyone was to present that book to a

publisher today they would be laughed right out door. Yes it has bits

and pieces of truth in it. but it's not all true and it's definitly not all

the word of god. It was written by man, maintained by man, and distributed

by man, his own purposes.

I know this to be true. I've had many experiences of the spirit world, I've

studied many different religious beleifs, spiritual disiplines. I've studied,

witchcraft, read the satanic bible, been involved with pagan rituals,

facilitated in healings on physical, emotional, and spiritual levels. I'm a

certified hypnotherapist, been schooled in accupuncture, a reiki master 4

times over, do jin shin, accupressure, eft, tft, corebelief therapy, timeline

therapy, and a whole slue of other techniques. And none of this (I know)

god would frown upon. I don't have to beleive anything, I flat out know.

and one thing I know is that anyone that thinks they have the only answer (

to anything) is very much mistaken.

Diann; if it comforts you to believe what you believe, then believe it.

But find a way to share it with others without putting down their beliefs.

Don't go around condemming them for their beleifs and stop, calling

everything demonic, and witchcraft. It's just not. If you want to beleive

that, fine just leave it for another forum. This forum is for discussion of

everything that you have just named as being witchcraft. So if you don't

want to discuss these subjects intellegently, then you need to unsubscribe

from this email list.

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Diann is RIGHT in many ways.

1. Acupuncture will not help the ROOT CAUSE OF CANCER, and there

may be demonic transference of unclean spirits to the individual

if the needles have been used in occult rituals. [According to a

pastor who teaches spiritual warfare, unclean spirits attach

themselves to objects of worship.]

The root cause of cancer is disobedience to God's Laws. Cancer

is caused by toxins we put into our bodies through the

man-adultered food we eat, which is devoid of numerous cell

medicines present in whole foods. These toxins cause dangerous

free radicals which damage our cells and weaken our immune

system.

God said to eat CLEAN FOODS, and stay away from UNCLEAN

FOODS. If we ate clean, PESTICIDE-FREE, FRESH FOODS our bodies

would not be damaged by free radicals.

God said to eat the SEEDS of the trees, and BITTER HERBS. These

contain most of our NATURAL FOOD MEDICINES. The pharma cartels

make many of their drugs from God's plant molecules, but

change(*deform) the structure so it is patentable. 100,000 to

350,000 people die each year from these drugs. God warned us

that in the End Times, Pharmacopoeia (called witchcraft) would

dominate.

2. Eating foods that the Bible says to eat will help prevent

cancer. The Mediterranean Diet is studied by nutritionist

because people following it have very low incidence of cancer.

This diet follows many Biblical dietary principles. The seeds

and bitter herbs should be increased. Olive Oil is used, but

throw away the olive oils in clear containers--chances are the

anti-oxidants and other natural cell medicines have been taken

out. Barleans is a good brand.

3. Doing what God tells you to do will cut down on your

cancers. Jesus said:

For I say to you

Bless those that curse you

Do good to those who hate you

Pray for those that spitefully use you

and persecute you

Psychologist know what diseases you have from questionnaires

on how you think. Harbor resentments and unforgiveness and you

can increase your chances of cancer.

Cancer is also caused by germs, worms, viruses, and

parasites. By obeying God's law: Do not fornicate (sex before

marriage), and Do not commit adultry, (sex outside of marriage),

we can prevent contracting the cancer-causing germs and

worms. Even if a wife is pure, a man cheating on his wife can

bring back to her cervical cancer-causing germs.

Your Daddy-God knows best. Listen to him.

>In a message dated 9/18/2001 4:56:10 PM Central Daylight Time,

>jinouy01@... writes:

>

>

>> Diann...I am an Acupuncturist and Acupuncture is most

>> >definitely not based on any religion.Get a book on it and read

>> >about it before you make such ridiculous statements. You need

>> >to join a religious forum so that you have an outlet for your

>> >religious zeal. This group is not about our religious views.

>> >Judy Hoffman

>> > ----- Original Message -----

>>

>

>Dear Judy,

>

>I have studied all about alternative modalities to include acupunture and it

>is based on an ancient religion. It is comes from China as does yoga and

>both are religions. It is based on energies that you don't understand as

>well. The creator of the Bible is the only source of energy that we should

>seek and it does take spiritual discernment by the Holy Spirit to discern the

>truth versus the lie. I discern the truth as I see it by the power of the

>Holy Spirit and not by my own understanding. You can reject that if you so

>choose. You can believe what you want about acupuncture and if you don't

>like what I believe about acupuncture then that is a personal problem. You

>can differ with me, but that does not make you right. I am saying what I

>know to be truth and I believe what God's word says. The bottom line is you

>cannot set your own standard for " righteousness " , the only righteous standard

>is the Lord's word. You don't have a right to tell me God has nothing to do

>with healing and that I have to find a religious forum. You practice

>religion in your medicine and ignorance does not change that fact. All forms

>of " witchcraft, be it yoga, hypnosis or acupuncture whether you like to hear

>it or not; it is witchcraft. Healing is not a vacuum apart from God because

>our creator, God is our only source of healing and it is pride that thinks

>you have anything to do with healing. All we can do is use Godly wisdom to

>enhance the healing capabilties God has programmed into our cells. Using

>witchcraft is a sure fire quarantee to bring a curse on your soul. The price

>is too great and the relief is only temporary and as you know acupuncture

>provides relief temporarily.

>

>The reason there is lack of understanding about acupuncture is that the

>source of the energy cannot be understood. I believe this energy source is

>not natural nor is it something Christians should pursue. God's healing

>power is not in energy from needles but in His word. The power of the Holy

>Spirit to effect healing is moved by faith in His word and we do our part by

>cleaning up our temple and eating foods designed by God in the living form

>God made them. God has put wisdom in our inward parts and that wisdom is the

>bodies power to heal itself. There is more intellect in one DNA than a life

>time of learning. God is the programmer of the DNA! Also, living enzymes are

>key factors in building strong cells. Seeking alternative " energy forms " for

>healing always is of a demonic source.

>

>Recent Research using MRI is quoted:

>Although acupuncture has been successfully used for thousands of years in

>China it is still viewed with considerable skepticism by many Western medical

>practitioners. One of the main stumbling blocks to greater acceptance is the

>lack of understanding of how it works.

>

>The researchers noted a highly significant correlation between brain activity

>and needle manipulation. Needle manipulation caused a pronounced calming of

>activity (decreased signal intensity) in the deep structures (amygdala,

>hippocampus, hypothalamus, etc.) of the brain accompanied by an increased

>signal intensity in the somatosensory cortex. They conclude that " modulation

>of this neuronal network could constitute the initiating steps by which

>acupuncture regulates multiple physiological systems and achieves diverse

>therapeutic effect " . [62 references]

>Hui, Kathleen, K.S., et al. Acupuncture modulates the limbic system and

>subcortical gray structures of the human brain: evidence from fMRI studies in

>normal subjects. Human Brain Mapping, Vol. 9, 2000, pp. 13-25

>

>You will note that still the signal intensity is not of a known source. It

>is only a noticed cause and effect and you can get the same cause and effect

>from Quija boards or water witching. It is of demonic energies. There are

>such things as devils and they have one purpose to kill, steal and destroy.

>They hate humans and deception is their game. Only God's word is able to

>give one wisdom to discern between good and evil, right and wrong.

>

>Like it or not this is the truth and you can take God out of your life, but

>you cannot demand others to deal with health problems apart from Godly

>wisdom. You don't have to believe it, but you don't have the right to tell

>me I should not share this with people. He sent His Word for our healing!

>If anything is demonic, be it a Quija board, eight ball, Dungeons and

>Dragons, Harry Potter, Horoscopes, acupuncture, yoga, you don't touch it.

>Praying over these things used by devils is not going to remove the curse of

>depending on them versus God's way of doing things. Wisdom is greater than

>all the silver and gold. His ways are higher than our ways.

>

>God Bless You

>

>Diann

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chemo, God's Laws, Disease, and Cancer

I know this to be true. You can NOT dis-obey the Living God, and

have the " peace with passeth understanding " , or be disease-free

in one's body, mind, spirit, or emotions. His Word has proven

infallible as science learns the truth.

Most evolutionists refuse to debate with Creationists today,

because Evolution Is A Superstition with no sound scientific

backing. The same type of people at quack-quakers' quackwatch

seem to be the spokespersons for evolutionists---They often

attack the person when they cannot win by scientific facts.

There are VARIATIONS in organisms, but NOT A SINGLE FOSSIL

EVIDENCE has been found which shows the creation of a new

structure, such as an eye.

We see " cataclysmic changes " of microbes in diseased persons. In

diseased persons such as cancer patients, the blood has become a

" poisonous liquid " which causes good microorganisms to change its

shape and forms, and become disease-causing. Dramatic changes in

organisms is called pleomorphism, which contradicts evolution's

" slow, incremental, step-by-step " creation of new species.

Under a microscope, you may see a bacteria break down into

viruses, or change into fungi. Take away the poisons in your

body, and give your body the type of food God told us to eat, and

the germs become good organisms again, helping to keep us healthy

by producing vitamins, anti-oxidants, and other Cell Medicines

which fight against cancer.

Many people at their death-beds confess their wrong-doings. The

philosophers that are esteemed at " top " universities feared hell

at their death-beds. At his own death-bed, Pasteur admitted that

his rival was correct--that the ENVIRONMENT (blood) is more

important than the germ (bacteria, virus, fungi, etc.) He

admitted there is pleomorphism. But prideful, wealthy men with

power can do much damage which cannot be corrected overnight, as

we have seen with the cancer and disease epidemics of today.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT: Why did the medical establishments who promote

drugs, chemo, radiation, etc. also promoted research in

acupuncture, hypnosis, etc.? All are not real cures for

diseases. Why have they NOT used God's Food Medicines to cure

diseases? (Hint: Guess who now controls much of America.)

Chasing occult gods and dis-obeying the Living God is one reason

judgment is now falling on this nation. Jesus' prophet has

warned about terrorists for 30 years; it is but one of many

tribulations God will allow satan to do to this country. The

prophet also said " September 20 " will rock America, though he

doesn't know which year...perhaps tomorrow?

[Guest guest]

Skibelt@...

Copies to: cures for cancer

From: Joyce Inouye <jinouy01@...>

Date sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT)

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: Re: chemo not working, need support

> Chemo, God's Laws, Disease, and Cancer

> Chasing occult gods and dis-obeying the Living God is one reason

> judgment is now falling on this nation. Jesus' prophet has

Hi,

I have religous beliefs also, but it is unlikely that you will be reading

about

them on this list.

moonbeam

> I know this to be true. You can NOT dis-obey the Living God, and

> have the " peace with passeth understanding " , or be disease-free

> in one's body, mind, spirit, or emotions. His Word has proven

> infallible as science learns the truth.

>

> Most evolutionists refuse to debate with Creationists today,

> because Evolution Is A Superstition with no sound scientific

> backing. The same type of people at quack-quakers' quackwatch

> seem to be the spokespersons for evolutionists---They often

> attack the person when they cannot win by scientific facts.

> There are VARIATIONS in organisms, but NOT A SINGLE FOSSIL

> EVIDENCE has been found which shows the creation of a new

> structure, such as an eye.

>

> We see " cataclysmic changes " of microbes in diseased persons. In

> diseased persons such as cancer patients, the blood has become a

> " poisonous liquid " which causes good microorganisms to change its

> shape and forms, and become disease-causing. Dramatic changes in

> organisms is called pleomorphism, which contradicts evolution's

> " slow, incremental, step-by-step " creation of new species.

> Under a microscope, you may see a bacteria break down into

> viruses, or change into fungi. Take away the poisons in your

> body, and give your body the type of food God told us to eat, and

> the germs become good organisms again, helping to keep us healthy

> by producing vitamins, anti-oxidants, and other Cell Medicines

> which fight against cancer.

>

> Many people at their death-beds confess their wrong-doings. The

> philosophers that are esteemed at " top " universities feared hell

> at their death-beds. At his own death-bed, Pasteur admitted that

> his rival was correct--that the ENVIRONMENT (blood) is more

> important than the germ (bacteria, virus, fungi, etc.) He

> admitted there is pleomorphism. But prideful, wealthy men with

> power can do much damage which cannot be corrected overnight, as

> we have seen with the cancer and disease epidemics of today.

>

> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: Why did the medical establishments who promote

> drugs, chemo, radiation, etc. also promoted research in

> acupuncture, hypnosis, etc.? All are not real cures for

> diseases. Why have they NOT used God's Food Medicines to cure

> diseases? (Hint: Guess who now controls much of America.)

>

> Chasing occult gods and dis-obeying the Living God is one reason

> judgment is now falling on this nation. Jesus' prophet has

> warned about terrorists for 30 years; it is but one of many

> tribulations God will allow satan to do to this country. The

> prophet also said " September 20 " will rock America, though he

> doesn't know which year...perhaps tomorrow?

>

>

>

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

> Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

> visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/19/01 3:29:36 PM Central Daylight Time, jinouy01@... writes:

Chemo, God's Laws, Disease, and Cancer

I know this to be true. You can NOT dis-obey the Living God, and

have the "peace with passeth understanding", or be disease-free

in one's body, mind, spirit, or emotions. His Word has proven

infallible as science learns the truth.

Most evolutionists refuse to debate with Creationists today,

because Evolution Is A Superstition with no sound scientific

backing. The same type of people at quack-quakers' quackwatch

seem to be the spokespersons for evolutionists---They often

attack the person when they cannot win by scientific facts.

There are VARIATIONS in organisms, but NOT A SINGLE FOSSIL

EVIDENCE has been found which shows the creation of a new

structure, such as an eye.

We see "cataclysmic changes" of microbes in diseased persons. In

diseased persons such as cancer patients, the blood has become a

"poisonous liquid" which causes good microorganisms to change its

shape and forms, and become disease-causing. Dramatic changes in

organisms is called pleomorphism, which contradicts evolution's

"slow, incremental, step-by-step" creation of new species.

Under a microscope, you may see a bacteria break down into

viruses, or change into fungi. Take away the poisons in your

body, and give your body the type of food God told us to eat, and

the germs become good organisms again, helping to keep us healthy

by producing vitamins, anti-oxidants, and other Cell Medicines

which fight against cancer.

Many people at their death-beds confess their wrong-doings. The

philosophers that are esteemed at "top" universities feared hell

at their death-beds. At his own death-bed, Pasteur admitted that

his rival was correct--that the ENVIRONMENT (blood) is more

important than the germ (bacteria, virus, fungi, etc.) He

admitted there is pleomorphism. But prideful, wealthy men with

power can do much damage which cannot be corrected overnight, as

we have seen with the cancer and disease epidemics of today.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT: Why did the medical establishments who promote

drugs, chemo, radiation, etc. also promoted research in

acupuncture, hypnosis, etc.? All are not real cures for

diseases. Why have they NOT used God's Food Medicines to cure

diseases? (Hint: Guess who now controls much of America.)

Chasing occult gods and dis-obeying the Living God is one reason

judgment is now falling on this nation. Jesus' prophet has

warned about terrorists for 30 years; it is but one of many

tribulations God will allow satan to do to this country. The

prophet also said "September 20" will rock America, though he

doesn't know which year...perhaps tomorrow?

Okay - I am fed up w/ this!!!!! I will give it 24 hrs, if this keeps up, I apologize, but I will remove myself from this list.

Noel

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/19/01 10:58:49 PM Central Daylight Time, dianna@... writes:

.. i vote to remove this one NOW.

As do I!!!

Noel

[Guest guest]

I agree with moonbeam. Try sending your response to the individual and not the group. Mildred Re: chemo not working, need support Skibelt@...Copies to: cures for cancer From: Joyce Inouye <jinouy01@...>Date sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:24:22 -0700 (PDT)Send reply to: cures for cancer Subject: Re: chemo not working, need support> Chemo, God's Laws, Disease, and Cancer> Chasing occult gods and dis-obeying the Living God is one reason> judgment is now falling on this nation. Jesus' prophet hasHi, I have religous beliefs also, but it is unlikely that you will be reading aboutthem on this list. moonbeam> I know this to be true. You can NOT dis-obey the Living God, and> have the "peace with passeth understanding", or be disease-free> in one's body, mind, spirit, or emotions. His Word has proven> infallible as science learns the truth.>> Most evolutionists refuse to debate with Creationists today,> because Evolution Is A Superstition with no sound scientific> backing. The same type of people at quack-quakers' quackwatch> seem to be the spokespersons for evolutionists---They often> attack the person when they cannot win by scientific facts.> There are VARIATIONS in organisms, but NOT A SINGLE FOSSIL> EVIDENCE has been found which shows the creation of a new> structure, such as an eye.>> We see "cataclysmic changes" of microbes in diseased persons. In> diseased persons such as cancer patients, the blood has become a> "poisonous liquid" which causes good microorganisms to change its> shape and forms, and become disease-causing. Dramatic changes in> organisms is called pleomorphism, which contradicts evolution's> "slow, incremental, step-by-step" creation of new species.> Under a microscope, you may see a bacteria break down into> viruses, or change into fungi. Take away the poisons in your> body, and give your body the type of food God told us to eat, and> the germs become good organisms again, helping to keep us healthy> by producing vitamins, anti-oxidants, and other Cell Medicines> which fight against cancer.>> Many people at their death-beds confess their wrong-doings. The> philosophers that are esteemed at "top" universities feared hell> at their death-beds. At his own death-bed, Pasteur admitted that> his rival was correct--that the ENVIRONMENT (blood) is more> important than the germ (bacteria, virus, fungi, etc.) He> admitted there is pleomorphism. But prideful, wealthy men with> power can do much damage which cannot be corrected overnight, as> we have seen with the cancer and disease epidemics of today.>> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: Why did the medical establishments who promote> drugs, chemo, radiation, etc. also promoted research in> acupuncture, hypnosis, etc.? All are not real cures for> diseases. Why have they NOT used God's Food Medicines to cure> diseases? (Hint: Guess who now controls much of America.)>> Chasing occult gods and dis-obeying the Living God is one reason> judgment is now falling on this nation. Jesus' prophet has> warned about terrorists for 30 years; it is but one of many> tribulations God will allow satan to do to this country. The> prophet also said "September 20" will rock America, though he> doesn't know which year...perhaps tomorrow?>>>>> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.> Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by> visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv>>

[Guest guest]

who is our list moderator? can we please do something about this? i know that we have removed members in the past. i vote to remove this one NOW.

please correct me if i'm wrong, but the person who wrote this note (below) is named Diann and her email address is eat2heal@....

please take this person off this list!!!

-dianna

Chemo, God's Laws, Disease, and Cancer

I know this to be true. You can NOT dis-obey the Living God, and

have the " peace with passeth understanding " , or be disease-free

in one's body, mind, spirit, or emotions. His Word has proven

infallible as science learns the truth.

Most evolutionists refuse to debate with Creationists today,

because Evolution Is A Superstition with no sound scientific

backing. The same type of people at quack-quakers' quackwatch

seem to be the spokespersons for evolutionists---They often

attack the person when they cannot win by scientific facts.

There are VARIATIONS in organisms, but NOT A SINGLE FOSSIL

EVIDENCE has been found which shows the creation of a new

structure, such as an eye.

We see " cataclysmic changes " of microbes in diseased persons. In

diseased persons such as cancer patients, the blood has become a

" poisonous liquid " which causes good microorganisms to change its

shape and forms, and become disease-causing. Dramatic changes in

organisms is called pleomorphism, which contradicts evolution's

" slow, incremental, step-by-step " creation of new species.

Under a microscope, you may see a bacteria break down into

viruses, or change into fungi. Take away the poisons in your

body, and give your body the type of food God told us to eat, and

the germs become good organisms again, helping to keep us healthy

by producing vitamins, anti-oxidants, and other Cell Medicines

which fight against cancer.

Many people at their death-beds confess their wrong-doings. The

philosophers that are esteemed at " top " universities feared hell

at their death-beds. At his own death-bed, Pasteur admitted that

his rival was correct--that the ENVIRONMENT (blood) is more

important than the germ (bacteria, virus, fungi, etc.) He

admitted there is pleomorphism. But prideful, wealthy men with

power can do much damage which cannot be corrected overnight, as

we have seen with the cancer and disease epidemics of today.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT: Why did the medical establishments who promote

drugs, chemo, radiation, etc. also promoted research in

acupuncture, hypnosis, etc.? All are not real cures for

diseases. Why have they NOT used God's Food Medicines to cure

diseases? (Hint: Guess who now controls much of America.)

Chasing occult gods and dis-obeying the Living God is one reason

judgment is now falling on this nation. Jesus' prophet has

warned about terrorists for 30 years; it is but one of many

tribulations God will allow satan to do to this country. The

prophet also said " September 20 " will rock America, though he

doesn't know which year...perhaps tomorrow?

Okay - I am fed up w/ this!!!!! I will give it 24 hrs, if this keeps up, I apologize, but I will remove myself from this list.

Noel

Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

[Guest guest]

Hi Dianna,

I can surely understand your frustration with Diann, but she too needs healing, a spiritual healing for her fundamentalist christian illness. Indeed, those who dogmatically & fanatically push theological dogma are spiritually sick, fearful, and more into doubt than good faith, spiritually loving, and non-judgmental compassion towards others.

At least fundamentalist christians just tell us that we non-fundamentalists are going to Hell, which is not as bad as the Islamic fundamentalists who actually kill us in the name of God and think they are giving us an early ticket to Hell...

richard, supporter[unaffiliated] of Pastor Malkmus and Hallelujah Acres Health Ministry in North Carolina and praying to our Heavenly Father for the best of His spiritual blessings, and mercy, for us all...

p.s. God, our Heavenly Father is real, He forces no one to believe in Him, and by His grace, someone was freely allowed to invent the delete key and we are all free to use it. Indeed, for the sake of those still bogged down in the creation versus evolution thing, try to understand that our Father created the evolutionary process, gave us free will so we can do good or bad, and learning the hard way from our bad choices is inevitable. You can choose junk food, or junk religion, but they will make you physically, and spiritually, sick, respectively... take care, stay balanced...

Re: chemo not working, need support

who is our list moderator? can we please do something about this? i know that we have removed members in the past. i vote to remove this one NOW.please correct me if i'm wrong, but the person who wrote this note (below) is named Diann and her email address is eat2heal@....please take this person off this list!!!-dianna

Chemo, God's Laws, Disease, and Cancer I know this to be true. You can NOT dis-obey the Living God, and have the "peace with passeth understanding", or be disease-free in one's body, mind, spirit, or emotions. His Word has proven infallible as science learns the truth. Most evolutionists refuse to debate with Creationists today, because Evolution Is A Superstition with no sound scientific backing. The same type of people at quack-quakers' quackwatch seem to be the spokespersons for evolutionists---They often attack the person when they cannot win by scientific facts. There are VARIATIONS in organisms, but NOT A SINGLE FOSSIL EVIDENCE has been found which shows the creation of a new structure, such as an eye. We see "cataclysmic changes" of microbes in diseased persons. In diseased persons such as cancer patients, the blood has become a "poisonous liquid" which causes good microorganisms to change its shape and forms, and become disease-causing. Dramatic changes in organisms is called pleomorphism, which contradicts evolution's "slow, incremental, step-by-step" creation of new species. Under a microscope, you may see a bacteria break down into viruses, or change into fungi. Take away the poisons in your body, and give your body the type of food God told us to eat, and the germs become good organisms again, helping to keep us healthy by producing vitamins, anti-oxidants, and other Cell Medicines which fight against cancer. Many people at their death-beds confess their wrong-doings. The philosophers that are esteemed at "top" universities feared hell at their death-beds. At his own death-bed, Pasteur admitted that his rival was correct--that the ENVIRONMENT (blood) is more important than the germ (bacteria, virus, fungi, etc.) He admitted there is pleomorphism. But prideful, wealthy men with power can do much damage which cannot be corrected overnight, as we have seen with the cancer and disease epidemics of today. FOOD FOR THOUGHT: Why did the medical establishments who promote drugs, chemo, radiation, etc. also promoted research in acupuncture, hypnosis, etc.? All are not real cures for diseases. Why have they NOT used God's Food Medicines to cure diseases? (Hint: Guess who now controls much of America.) Chasing occult gods and dis-obeying the Living God is one reason judgment is now falling on this nation. Jesus' prophet has warned about terrorists for 30 years; it is but one of many tribulations God will allow satan to do to this country. The prophet also said "September 20" will rock America, though he doesn't know which year...perhaps tomorrow? Okay - I am fed up w/ this!!!!! I will give it 24 hrs, if this keeps up, I apologize, but I will remove myself from this list. Noel Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv