Re: better late than never???????

[Guest guest]

Good Comment!!!

Maybe I should call in for my father who died from Agent Orange 4years after he

got out of the Army from his last tour in Nam...

Jon

[Guest guest]

Actually, there is an information hotline available

right now. From what I understand, it's been around

for a little over a year or so. Isn't the number

something like 1-877-GETVACC? Hasn't anyone ever

called this hotline? If so, were they able to answer

your questions or seem credible?

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[Guest guest]

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original message:

FROM: shay456_1999@...

DATE: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 07:47:06 -0800 (PST)

SUBJECT: Re: better late than never???????

Actually, there is an information hotline available right

now. From what I understand, it's been around for a little

over a year or so. Isn't the number something like

1-877-GETVACC? Hasn't anyone ever called this hotline? If

so, were they able to answer your questions or seem

credible?

>>>

" Something like 1-877-GETVACC? " ? ....

Yes Lesa, and the answer to your questions are " yes " , " yes " and " No "

in that order. Below are many posts that reference that AVIP phone

number you provided. Your June 2nd post reminding us of the ease

of producing Anthrax is below and a list of posts in answer to

your post today.

From the archives (log on to at .

In fact this one is most interesting:

/message/6236

---

In a message dated 06/02/2000 11:30:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

shay456_1999@... (Lesa Landry) writes:

<< Anthrax is very easy to produce, all it takes is

common biological knowledge and any insane person

could find information on the internet easily. >>

----

/message/8280

8280

Here are my (so-called) answers from AVIP on thos

Theresa Giarratano

Tue 3/28/2000

/message/8107

8107

Fwd: anthrax vaccine effects?can you believe this

tawnyfern@...

Thu 3/16/2000

/message/8103

8103

Reply from AVIP web site

eeblack@...

Thu 3/16/2000

/message/6430

6430

1st Sgt.

CHARLIE POE

Mon 12/6/1999

/message/6396

6396

Indiana National Guard

CHARLIE POE

Sat 12/4/1999

/message/6273

6273

Interesting message from the director of the AVIP

Randice1xxx (DOT) xxx

Thu 11/25/1999

/message/6236

6236

DOD's AVIP Agency reply from Lesa

code52xxxxx (DOT) xxxxxxxxxxx)

Tue 11/23/1999

/message/5981

5981

FW: Anthrax & Breastfeeding

Minniefield N. A1C - 43CS/SCB

Tue 11/9/1999

/message/5891

5891

Re: DOD decides it really CAN get away with the

Colley

Sun 11/7/1999

/message/5834

5834

DOD decides it really CAN get away with the veter

Meryl Nass

Thu 11/4/1999

/message/5828

5828

Fw: Anthrax vaccination lies, half trutths and pa

Waye

Wed 11/3/1999

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Gretchen Whitney

List owner

[Guest guest]

Maybe what we should do is have those with anthrax vaccine-related

physical problems to call this 800 numbers to report. Possibly a number

would be set up sooner to accommodate this epidemic.

[Guest guest]

Jon,

I have the same inclination to call in for my wifes uncle, who also

passed away before his time due to exposure to this non-lethal

defoliant. I think someone's timing has been a little off as far as

offering help to those that they made sick and have killed. The spotted

owl is more respected than the troops!!!

Bill

jrivera@... wrote:

>

> Good Comment!!!

> Maybe I should call in for my father who died from Agent Orange 4years after

he got out of the Army from his last tour in Nam...

>

> Jon

[Guest guest]

:

I did take all my fathers records to the VA and with his

civilian medical records ... AND with this 78% disability

claim granted by the VA and Department of the Army ... then showed the

connection between the symptoms / overt bodily

manifestations ( had photos too )[ my father was still fighting this battle

right up to his death so he had me

get out the polaroid ] but they would not believe that it

was service connected ...

Did i tell you he retired as a 3 star general? and the VA

would not listen to him ...

unfortunately, my mother followed my dad believing that

that the government let both her and my father down ...

jon rivera

[Guest guest]

,

That is not a bad idea. We all know that if we call the DoD/AVIP

sponsored 1-877-getscrewed number all we are going to get is the same

old lies that we have always gotten. I can't imagine that the liars are

going to all of a sudden start coughing up factual and honest

information. That goes against everything most of them stand for.

D Terry wrote:

>

> Maybe what we should do is have those with anthrax vaccine-related

> physical problems to call this 800 numbers to report. Possibly a number

> would be set up sooner to accommodate this epidemic.

>

[Guest guest]

I HAVE CALLED THIS # AND THEY WERE SOME WHAT HELPFULL.

HOWEVER, THEY STILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE MILITARY

DOCTORS TO SAY IF YOU WILL OR WILL NOT TAKE THE

VACCINE.

--- Lesa Landry <shay456_1999@...> wrote:

> Actually, there is an information hotline available

> right now. From what I understand, it's been around

> for a little over a year or so. Isn't the number

> something like 1-877-GETVACC? Hasn't anyone ever

> called this hotline? If so, were they able to

> answer

> your questions or seem credible?

[Guest guest]

Could you elaborate on the help that you were given when calling this

number? What questions did you ask and what answers did they give you?

It would be a breath of fresh air if we did start getting helpful,

truthful and honest answers, but as of yet all we seem to get is the

same old song and dance about how no one is sick, hurt or having

problems. If there has been an honest change in the DoD behavior about

the truth, please let us know. Most military doctors will continue to

tout this vaccine only in the name of personal and professional upward

progression, not because of their expertise in the area of vaccines and

the facts that they are well aware of and that is that this vaccine is

bad news. Thank God we do have some military doctors that will stand up

for the truth and sacrifice themselves and careers in the name of

honesty.

Bill

DENYS BONEY wrote:

>

> I HAVE CALLED THIS # AND THEY WERE SOME WHAT HELPFULL.

> HOWEVER, THEY STILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE MILITARY

> DOCTORS TO SAY IF YOU WILL OR WILL NOT TAKE THE

> VACCINE.

> --- Lesa Landry <shay456_1999@...> wrote:

> > Actually, there is an information hotline available

> > right now. From what I understand, it's been around

> > for a little over a year or so. Isn't the number

> > something like 1-877-GETVACC? Hasn't anyone ever

> > called this hotline? If so, were they able to

> > answer

> > your questions or seem credible?

>

>

> Our Anthrax information web site: http://www.dallasnw.quik.com/cyberella/

> PETITION TO OVERTURN/REPEAL FERES DOCTRINE http://www.i-charity.net/ptn/80

> To visit Dr. Meryl Nass's web site, go to: http://www.anthraxvaccine.org

> Also visit: http://www.MajorBates.com/ and http://www.enter.net/~jfsorg/

> http://www.jamesmadisonproject.org/importantlinks.html and

http://www.aboutanthrax.org

> Anthrax Vaccine Network proposal http://www.anthraxvaccine.net

> http://www.house.gov/reform/hearings/healthcare/00.10.03/accountability.doc

> Contact list owner: Gretchen Whitney at: anna_nim@...

>

[Guest guest]

well it was last May or so when i was at Ft Bliss, TX

i asked them if there were links between the antrax

and autoimmune disorders because my doctor told me

that there was a suspected link. they said that there

was no offical link. so i aked them what adverse

reactions were linked to immune disorders frome the

anthrax. they said none officaly. so i aked what

warning came with the anthrax. they said that there is

a insert that comes with the vaccine to the hospital

and it had a section that covered reasons for people

to not take the vaccine. they faxed me a copy of the

insert and then said that only the doctor can say

where a person will be exempt from the vaccine. i too

have refused the antrax vaccine and in January 2000 i

received a Field Grade Article 15 for the refusal.

-Denys-

--- Colley <wecbac@...> wrote:

> Could you elaborate on the help that you were given

> when calling this

> number? What questions did you ask and what answers

> did they give you?

> It would be a breath of fresh air if we did start

> getting helpful,

> truthful and honest answers, but as of yet all we

> seem to get is the

> same old song and dance about how no one is sick,

> hurt or having

> problems. If there has been an honest change in the

> DoD behavior about

> the truth, please let us know. Most military doctors

> will continue to

> tout this vaccine only in the name of personal and

> professional upward

> progression, not because of their expertise in the

> area of vaccines and

> the facts that they are well aware of and that is

> that this vaccine is

> bad news. Thank God we do have some military doctors

> that will stand up

> for the truth and sacrifice themselves and careers

> in the name of

> honesty.

> Bill

[Guest guest]

Hi there,

Calling the 1-877-GETVACC? is like calling the number for an

'info' mercial and asking " Is your product good? " Does it work? "

" Should I try it? " Pimping the AVIP IS their job. They sing the

same old tune and periodically show up in as well.

Here's a tune that DoD will get used to hearing if the AVIP isn't

stopped. It should be the theme song for refusers, though " not

officially " , (kinda like adverse reactions)

http://www2.bonet.co.id/cpr/midi/pop/these_bo.mid

Gretchen

List owner

Re: better late than never???????

> well it was last May or so when i was at Ft Bliss, TX

> i asked them if there were links between the antrax

> and autoimmune disorders because my doctor told me

> that there was a suspected link. they said that there

> was no offical link. so i aked them what adverse

> reactions were linked to immune disorders frome the

> anthrax. they said none officaly. so i aked what

> warning came with the anthrax. they said that there is

> a insert that comes with the vaccine to the hospital

> and it had a section that covered reasons for people

> to not take the vaccine. they faxed me a copy of the

> insert and then said that only the doctor can say

> where a person will be exempt from the vaccine. i too

> have refused the antrax vaccine and in January 2000 i

> received a Field Grade Article 15 for the refusal.

> -Denys-

> --- Colley <wecbac@...> wrote:

> > Could you elaborate on the help that you were given

> > when calling this

> > number? What questions did you ask and what answers

> > did they give you?

> > It would be a breath of fresh air if we did start

> > getting helpful,

> > truthful and honest answers, but as of yet all we

> > seem to get is the

> > same old song and dance about how no one is sick,

> > hurt or having

> > problems. If there has been an honest change in the

> > DoD behavior about

> > the truth, please let us know. Most military doctors

> > will continue to

> > tout this vaccine only in the name of personal and

> > professional upward

> > progression, not because of their expertise in the

> > area of vaccines and

> > the facts that they are well aware of and that is

> > that this vaccine is

> > bad news. Thank God we do have some military doctors

> > that will stand up

> > for the truth and sacrifice themselves and careers

> > in the name of

> > honesty.

> > Bill