Guest guest Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 JAN!!! Welcome back! I missed your smiling happy " face " . Hello to ALL the new people. Hang in there...it is worth it. (I say that eventhough I've been dragging butt and could use my OWN advice.) LOL! Well....I'm half way through folks. Yup! I made it to the 12 week stage and I went in for my PCR today. I am so lucky to be a 2b and only have to have 24 weeks of treatment. My sides this week weren't too bad...only headache and body aches. Guess what? They think my eye problems are NOT due to the interferon. Probably my high blood pressure. AND my headaches may have been extra bad because my blood pressure was so high. So, all you people out there on treatment, if you get really bad headaches with your treatment, make sure you have your blood pressure checked! My BP was normal without medicine for three months and then went wacky. I'm on two different types of medicine just for the BP as well as the rest of my " normal " meds. BTW...I have iron deficient anemia, so I " m on an iron suppliment. Sometimes it is necessary and my liver is doing fine. My enzymes have always been within normal range. But my viral load was low too so maybe they hadn't chewed up my liver that much yet. I find out next week what my counts are. ONLY 12 WEEKS TO GO!! WOOOOOO HOOOOO!! I can't wait to be done. I can't imagine being on treatment for an entire year. All of you that are have my deepest respect for your strength. I don't know if I could hack it. I agree with April about diet. I know that if I'm eating whole foods, one's that aren't processed to death, I feel better. And boy can I tell when I eat junk after keeping it out of my system. GAS!!! Yuck! On a more serious note...Terry, I " m sorry to hear of your loss. I'm glad your Mom got to be at home when she passed. Dave, how is your Mom doing? And how is your back holding up?? Jan, where did you move to? Still in Louisiana?? I'm feeling good today but it has been a rough couple of weeks with the BP and eye thing. I " ve been really down. I have an appointment with a special shrink to talk about meds for depression. I just dread taking ANOTHER pill. Will it really make me feel better? I know that my BP meds are making a real difference. I guess I'm afraid of feeling like a zombie. Let me know what you all think. Thanks in advance. Barbara > Hi everyone.......i have a question???my dr. had wanted me to do a 12 > month round of tx....I only did 6.......my blood work showed me as > undetectable at 6 months...the side effects had gotten so bad that i > stopped tx and have not returned to the dr. for any tests...should i > have done 6 more months???Is there a chance the Hep will return > because i dident finish?what should i do????I try to put it out of my > mind but cant...hellp!!!!! > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you ? > Read only the mail you want - SpamGuard. > > > > > Jan > > > --------------------------------- > Do you ? > - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > > > > > > > Jan > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2004 Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 Barbara!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good to see you!! I am sooooo happy to be back on!!! WHOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the welcome..It's good to know I was missed!!!!!Barbara <vynca_minor@...> wrote: JAN!!! Welcome back! I missed your smiling happy "face".Hello to ALL the new people. Hang in there...it is worth it. (I say that eventhough I've been dragging butt and could use my OWN advice.) LOL!Well....I'm half way through folks. Yup! I made it to the 12 weekstage and I went in for my PCR today. I am so lucky to be a 2b andonly have to have 24 weeks of treatment. My sides this week weren'ttoo bad...only headache and body aches. Guess what? They think my eyeproblems are NOT due to the interferon. Probably my high bloodpressure. AND my headaches may have been extra bad because my bloodpressure was so high. So, all you people out there on treatment, ifyou get really bad headaches with your treatment, make sure you haveyour blood pressure checked! My BP was normal without medicine forthree months and then went wacky. I'm on two different types ofmedicine just for the BP as well as the rest of my "normal" meds. BTW...I have iron deficient anemia, so I"m on an iron suppliment.Sometimes it is necessary and my liver is doing fine. My enzymes havealways been within normal range. But my viral load was low too somaybe they hadn't chewed up my liver that much yet. I find out nextweek what my counts are. ONLY 12 WEEKS TO GO!! WOOOOOO HOOOOO!! Ican't wait to be done. I can't imagine being on treatment for anentire year. All of you that are have my deepest respect for yourstrength. I don't know if I could hack it. I agree with April about diet. I know that if I'm eating whole foods,one's that aren't processed to death, I feel better. And boy can Itell when I eat junk after keeping it out of my system. GAS!!! Yuck!On a more serious note...Terry, I"m sorry to hear of your loss. I'mglad your Mom got to be at home when she passed. Dave, how is your Momdoing? And how is your back holding up?? Jan, where did you move to?Still in Louisiana?? I'm feeling good today but it has been a roughcouple of weeks with the BP and eye thing. I"ve been really down. Ihave an appointment with a special shrink to talk about meds fordepression. I just dread taking ANOTHER pill. Will it really make mefeel better? I know that my BP meds are making a real difference. Iguess I'm afraid of feeling like a zombie. Let me know what you allthink. Thanks in advance.Barbara > Hi everyone.......i have a question???my dr. had wanted me to do a 12 > month round of tx....I only did 6.......my blood work showed me as > undetectable at 6 months...the side effects had gotten so bad that i > stopped tx and have not returned to the dr. for any tests...should i > have done 6 more months???Is there a chance the Hep will return > because i dident finish?what should i do????I try to put it out of my > mind but cant...hellp!!!!!> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Do you ?> Read only the mail you want - SpamGuard. > > > > > Jan > > > ---------------------------------> Do you ?> - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > > > > > > > Jan > > __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Hey le, I hear your heart in your email. I truly believe some people don't know any better, but that dosen't make what they say or do o.k.. I have cerebral Palsy, the only way you would know that, is by my limp and my eyes tend to get cross eyed every once and a while. Kids, I think, learn that its OK to be noisy and then they grow up to be noisy. I always tried to treat all people the same. I raise my children to be respectful to people who look different then they do. When we decided to adopt a child with special needs, we all talked about it together as a family. Including my twin girls that are 13 and my 11 year old son, all had a say in it. I was so happy to hear them say they were all up for who ever God gave us, it may sound cliche, but i do believe our adopted babies are born in our hearts, we don't know what our kids will look or sound like until God gives them to us, just like a baby born in a mother's womb, you don't know if that baby will be born with or without special circumstances. I'm with Min, I don't get why China will classify a baby who has BPES as special needs, they also classify a baby who may have a big birthmark, or missing finger as special needs. Any ways, my kids all agreed unanimously to jump in and see who our blessing would be. Malenah truly "belongs" in our family. She completed our missing link. How foolish people can be. I'm not trying to be preachy, but the Bible says to judge someone by their heart, by their words, I guess we all can fall short of that tall order a time or two. KK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 > > Hey le, > I hear your heart in your email. I truly believe some people don't know any better, but that dosen't make what they say or do o.k.. I have cerebral Palsy, the only way you would know that, is by my limp and my eyes tend to get cross eyed every once and a while. Kids, I think, learn that its OK to be noisy and then they grow up to be noisy. I always tried to treat all people the same. I raise my children to be respectful to people who look different then they do. When we decided to adopt a child with special needs, we all talked about it together as a family. Including my twin girls that are 13 and my 11 year old son, all had a say in it. I was so happy to hear them say they were all up for who ever God gave us, it may sound cliche, but i do believe our adopted babies are born in our hearts, we don't know what our kids will look or sound like until God gives them to us, just like a baby born in a mother's womb, you don't know if that baby will be born with or without special circumstances. I'm with Min, I don't get why China will classify a baby who has BPES as special needs, they also classify a baby who may have a big birthmark, or missing finger as special needs. Any ways, my kids all agreed unanimously to jump in and see who our blessing would be. Malenah truly " belongs " in our family. She completed our missing link. How foolish people can be. I'm not trying to be preachy, but the Bible says to judge someone by their heart, by their words, I guess we all can fall short of that tall order a time or two. > KK > Hi KK, I have tears in my eyes, what a wonderful person you and your family are!!! I smiled the whole time I read your email and very well said. Life would be so duill if we were all the same and no one is perfect and we each have beautiful talents to contribute to each other and society. You made my day, Thank you! -a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Hi Melody! What wonderful news for you! I am so happy to have been able to give you any info that may have been helpful. I find your info about the chiropractor VERY interesting; enough to make me want to look into seeing one for myself. Can you refresh my memory.......were you on 120mg of Armour in 2005 and now you are on 45 mg of Armour? So happy for you. Keep up the good work and it is work to do our own advocating, isn't it? Venizia > > Hi All > > I wanted to thank you for all your help and suggestions the last month and a half... > My thyroid was finally regulated in the last two weeks and I'm feeling awesome! > > Chuck, again I thank you for reminding us all that the majority of thyroid patients can be healed through conventional meds. For me, Armour Thyroid is the key.... and my thyroid dosage is only 45mg's now from 120 mgs from 2005 until six weeks ago... > > I can't even begin to tell you how much better I feel. In addition, I did want to ask one thing.. > > I use chiropractic care and I have found that since I have been going over the last 6 months my thyroid is improving... and changing to where I need less armour.... > has anyone had this happen... ? The Dr explained that my neck was so curved that it was probably cutting off the blood supply somewhat and causing other restrictions to the area that provides support to the thyroid gland, thus causing it to be producing less than what I needed. I felt the change immediately after staring chiropractic care but did not realize that it was my thyroid.... until he sat down and explained it.... my hope is that it just keeps improving as I get more treatments... My Chiropractor is an advocate for Armour.... I liked that! > > Thanks to this board I finally got swabbed and found my adrenals were fine! THANK GOD! > > Blessings to all of you Dani, Venezia, Gracia and all that answered questions and helped me... so... > I will keep in touch and pray God's blessing that you find what you need to regulate your conditions and feel better! The advice on here was more than I ever found from an MD and Im just thankful my armour worked and I'm regulated for now!!!!! > > Blessings > M > > > > " Find rest, O my soul, in God alone; my hope comes from him. " > Psalm 62:5 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Autos new Car Finder tool. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 I personally don't believe 45mg of Armour will be effective! As I recall she had a high TSH. Gracia Hi Melody! What wonderful news for you! I am so happy to have been able to give you any info that may have been helpful. I find your info about the chiropractor VERY interesting; enough to make me want to look into seeing one for myself. Can you refresh my memory.......were you on 120mg of Armour in 2005 and now you are on 45 mg of Armour? So happy for you. Keep up the good work and it is work to do our own advocating, isn't it? Venizia --- Recent Activity a.. 17New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 woohoo let's have dinner around the country Dallas/Kansas/Maine/NYC Gracia Yes 2 grains in 2005 switched from synthroid... at the time and they worked wonderfully for two years... then as you know we have been playing with the dose since January of this year when I started chiropractic... I did change to a holistic chiropractor... in the last week and he I think he will be better for me.... But I would have NEVER stepped outside the box and questioned my treatment if it were not for you and Gracia and Chuck..... I owe you all Dinner when you hit Dallas! m Recent Activity a.. 14New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 The reason they are testing so often is that my levels change drastically due to other issues in my body right now... I have been hospitalized twice in the last six weeks over what were " hypo " symptoms bad enough for hospitalization but then turned out to be Dr's that didn't know a thing.... In addition had the gallbladder out in APril which needed to be done... but ..also.... they have just medicated me so much all the meds were affecting everyting ie... they had me on so much nexium and carafate told me to take it in the morning.... well did you know it absorbs into the stomach and then causes the other meds not to absorb so my Armour wasn't even absorbing... so that caused the endo to up the dose then lower then up it then lower then I found a new doctor... I think my new internist is just trying to make sure that I don't go out again like I did before when they lowered it too low too quickly so he is watching it like a hawk which personally I like.. comapred to the endo who first said ONCE A YEAR and I was not regulated! The holistic guy I found does the adrenal testing and he will do iodine testing.... have only done the adrenal's right now and they were fine.... so I have had the unreliable blood test for adrenals and the swab.... The other thing is I have started taking supplements just two for now... in hopes of getting me off my gastric meds.... I think once that dies down the rest will be easier to determine... But again, my hypo symptoms right now are not existing at all.... so I'm praying that it stays this way! What I love about this new dr is that he LOVES Armour... he said that he normally will switch people from synthroid to the natural bovine thyroid med from the health food center... but if I am on armour he likes that better.... especially if the dose is working.... m > > > OK > I am sure you will figure out what is best and right for you. > My POV is that you must have Lugols or Iodoral. You will need adrenal meds in order to tolerate enough Armour. > Why do you need to test so often? Can't you tell when you feel hypo? > Gracia > > Gracia, > I sure hope you are wrong... but if not, at least now I have an > internist and chiropractor that agree to check it every third or > fourth week. I thought that might be too often but they are both in > agreement that way we can see how it changes... I don't have to > wait the 8 weeks my endo was insisting upon! But I will be > sure and let you know..... > > My TSH before was 7.9 it was 2.25 last week.... I started the 45 > mgs on 5/28 so I think we are close. Remember this was after the 60 > mg's were taking me down below 1.0 and giving me palpitations... > which doesn't make sense but it was doing that... > I know that people say the levels need to be lower but with my > history we have found I feel the best in the 2.0 to 2.75 range.... > that is just over the last two years... so who knows... but I'm > sure hoping that it will be enough... And by the way, the > ovarian cysts have shrunken away in the last two weeks! I got in > next week for my last sonogram... Thank you for all your help....I'm > sure if I find something a miss I will be asking you again for > help! > > M > > > > Recent Activity > a.. 14New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 I have eaten in Kansas and Dallas how about NYC and MAine! haha > > > woohoo > let's have dinner around the country > Dallas/Kansas/Maine/NYC > Gracia > > Yes 2 grains in 2005 switched from synthroid... at the time and they > worked wonderfully for two years... then as you know we have been > playing with the dose since January of this year when I started > chiropractic... > > I did change to a holistic chiropractor... in the last week and he I > think he will be better for me.... But I would have NEVER stepped > outside the box and questioned my treatment if it were not for you > and Gracia and Chuck..... > > I owe you all Dinner when you hit Dallas! > m > > > Recent Activity > a.. 14New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 gall bladder is thyroid related. I stopped gall bladder attacks within minutes by taking extra Armour. IMO all your drugs/symptoms are thyroid related. I don't understand replacing $inthroid with bovine thyroid from HFS! You can order iodine test for yourself but I think it's easier to try it. (Iodoral or Lugols 50mg) http://www.helpmythyroid.com I would dump all the drugs and start with iodine and see if you get adrenal symptoms. I am not sure what a swab is for adrenals! Somewhat reliable adrenal testing is saliva 4X a day from DiagnosTechs. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com Gracia The reason they are testing so often is that my levels change drastically due to other issues in my body right now... I have been hospitalized twice in the last six weeks over what were " hypo " symptoms bad enough for hospitalization but then turned out to be Dr's that didn't know a thing.... In addition had the gallbladder out in APril which needed to be done... but ..also.... they have just medicated me so much all the meds were affecting everyting ie... they had me on so much nexium and carafate told me to take it in the morning.... well did you know it absorbs into the stomach and then causes the other meds not to absorb so my Armour wasn't even absorbing... so that caused the endo to up the dose then lower then up it then lower then I found a new doctor... I think my new internist is just trying to make sure that I don't go out again like I did before when they lowered it too low too quickly so he is watching it like a hawk which personally I like.. comapred to the endo who first said ONCE A YEAR and I was not regulated! The holistic guy I found does the adrenal testing and he will do iodine testing.... have only done the adrenal's right now and they were fine.... so I have had the unreliable blood test for adrenals and the swab.... The other thing is I have started taking supplements just two for now... in hopes of getting me off my gastric meds.... I think once that dies down the rest will be easier to determine... But again, my hypo symptoms right now are not existing at all.... so I'm praying that it stays this way! What I love about this new dr is that he LOVES Armour... he said that he normally will switch people from synthroid to the natural bovine thyroid med from the health food center... but if I am on armour he likes that better.... especially if the dose is working.... m Recent Activity a.. 15New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 OMG Melody, that same exact thing happend to me back in 2004 when I had an ovary removed. In the hospital, they gave me meds at the same time as my thyroid meds in the morning. At the time I was on Synthroid. Not knowing that they would react with the thyroid meds, I continued the same way once I got home. As a result, I had all kinds of problems; gastric, hypo symptoms, anxiety attacks etc. It was the worst time in my life. I finally insisted on my endo doing a blood test. I had the surgery in Oct of 2004, the endo did the TSH in Jan2005. I was at 9.40. I was so angry. No nurse or doctor said anything to me about not taking them together and I thought because that's what they did in the hospital, they knew what they were doing......my first mistake!!! I basically was my own doctor at that point; trying to figure out what the problem was. Hence, my reluctance to trust very many doctors etc. So that's my story. Maybe it will helps others. Venizia > > > > > > OK > > I am sure you will figure out what is best and right for you. > > My POV is that you must have Lugols or Iodoral. You will need > adrenal meds in order to tolerate enough Armour. > > Why do you need to test so often? Can't you tell when you feel > hypo? > > Gracia > > > > Gracia, > > I sure hope you are wrong... but if not, at least now I have an > > internist and chiropractor that agree to check it every third or > > fourth week. I thought that might be too often but they are both > in > > agreement that way we can see how it changes... I don't have to > > wait the 8 weeks my endo was insisting upon! But I will be > > sure and let you know..... > > > > My TSH before was 7.9 it was 2.25 last week.... I started the 45 > > mgs on 5/28 so I think we are close. Remember this was after the > 60 > > mg's were taking me down below 1.0 and giving me palpitations... > > which doesn't make sense but it was doing that... > > I know that people say the levels need to be lower but with my > > history we have found I feel the best in the 2.0 to 2.75 > range.... > > that is just over the last two years... so who knows... but I'm > > sure hoping that it will be enough... And by the way, the > > ovarian cysts have shrunken away in the last two weeks! I got in > > next week for my last sonogram... Thank you for all your > help....I'm > > sure if I find something a miss I will be asking you again for > > help! > > > > M > > > > > > > > Recent Activity > > a.. 14New Members > > Visit Your Group > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Hi, Could you tell me name of natural bovine med he is talking about? Thanks so much!! hipmmmy <hipmmmy@...> wrote: What I love about this new dr is that he LOVES Armour... he said that he normally will switch people from synthroid to the natural bovine thyroid med from the health food center... Recent Activity 15 New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 M, You wrote: > > I know that people say the levels need to be lower but with my > history we have found I feel the best in the 2.0 to 2.75 range.... The lower range is probably a long term adjustment to daily pulses of T3. A TSH of 2.0 is a good initial target. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I had no idea gallbladder was thyroid related. They actually told me it was due to the lap band and losing 134 pounds in 16 months... I have found that actually online but nothing on line about it referring to thyroid.... but with the double trouble going on between the two of them it is no wonder it was about to burst! GEEZ! Wish I had known that also! > > > gall bladder is thyroid related. I stopped gall bladder attacks within minutes by taking extra Armour. IMO all your drugs/symptoms are thyroid related. I don't understand replacing $inthroid with bovine thyroid from HFS! You can order iodine test for yourself but I think it's easier to try it. (Iodoral or Lugols 50mg) > http://www.helpmythyroid.com > I would dump all the drugs and start with iodine and see if you get adrenal symptoms. I am not sure what a swab is for adrenals! Somewhat reliable adrenal testing is saliva 4X a day from DiagnosTechs. > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com > Gracia > > The reason they are testing so often is that my levels change > drastically due to other issues in my body right now... > I have been hospitalized twice in the last six weeks over what > were " hypo " symptoms bad enough for hospitalization but then turned > out to be Dr's that didn't know a thing.... > In addition had the gallbladder out in APril which needed to be > done... but ..also.... they have just medicated me so much all the > meds were affecting everyting > ie... > they had me on so much nexium and carafate told me to take it in the > morning.... > well did you know it absorbs into the stomach and then causes the > other meds not to absorb so my Armour wasn't even absorbing... so > that caused the endo to up the dose then lower then up it then lower > then I found a new doctor... > > I think my new internist is just trying to make sure that I don't go > out again like I did before when they lowered it too low too quickly > so he is watching it like a hawk which personally I like.. comapred > to the endo who first said ONCE A YEAR and I was not regulated! > > The holistic guy I found does the adrenal testing and he will do > iodine testing.... have only done the adrenal's right now and they > were fine.... so I have had the unreliable blood test for adrenals > and the swab.... > > The other thing is I have started taking supplements just two for > now... in hopes of getting me off my gastric meds.... I think once > that dies down the rest will be easier to determine... > > But again, my hypo symptoms right now are not existing at all.... so > I'm praying that it stays this way! What I love about this new dr is > that he LOVES Armour... he said that he normally will switch people > from synthroid to the natural bovine thyroid med from the health food > center... but if I am on armour he likes that better.... especially > if the dose is working.... > > m > > > Recent Activity > a.. 15New Members > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 YEP! And they did it too me last Fall too. I was taking Nexium even though they didn't TEST me for acid reflux and I did not HAVE IT!!!!!! They had me take it in the morning... so the whole time my thyroid was spinning out of control and I didn't know it.... I had no symptoms I could feel but my hair was falling out and I would tell the DRs and they would say no you are fine!!!!! Now it makes even more sense why my gallbladder suffered too! DARN DOCS!!!!! > > > > > > > > > OK > > > I am sure you will figure out what is best and right for you. > > > My POV is that you must have Lugols or Iodoral. You will need > > adrenal meds in order to tolerate enough Armour. > > > Why do you need to test so often? Can't you tell when you feel > > hypo? > > > Gracia > > > > > > Gracia, > > > I sure hope you are wrong... but if not, at least now I have an > > > internist and chiropractor that agree to check it every third or > > > fourth week. I thought that might be too often but they are both > > in > > > agreement that way we can see how it changes... I don't have to > > > wait the 8 weeks my endo was insisting upon! But I will be > > > sure and let you know..... > > > > > > My TSH before was 7.9 it was 2.25 last week.... I started the 45 > > > mgs on 5/28 so I think we are close. Remember this was after the > > 60 > > > mg's were taking me down below 1.0 and giving me palpitations... > > > which doesn't make sense but it was doing that... > > > I know that people say the levels need to be lower but with my > > > history we have found I feel the best in the 2.0 to 2.75 > > range.... > > > that is just over the last two years... so who knows... but I'm > > > sure hoping that it will be enough... And by the way, the > > > ovarian cysts have shrunken away in the last two weeks! I got in > > > next week for my last sonogram... Thank you for all your > > help....I'm > > > sure if I find something a miss I will be asking you again for > > > help! > > > > > > M > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity > > > a.. 14New Members > > > Visit Your Group > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I have no idea what it is callled. But my neighbor just went on it this week.. and in three days can tell a difference. She did her own natural thyroid test by taking her temp and going to a holistic guy that does not do blood but does saliva and temp testing. I saw her bottle and then when he mentioned it I knew it was the same thing. She got it at a natural health food store/pharmacy in Texas. > What I love about this new dr is > that he LOVES Armour... he said that he normally will switch people > from synthroid to the natural bovine thyroid med from the health food > center... > > > Recent Activity > > 15 > New Members > > Visit Your Group > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 Thanks Chuck.... I was thinking so... when I go below 2.0 I get a bit wiggy... I am still wondering if perhaps after a few more weeks I will need 1 grain again instead of the 45 mg... but Dr says if I'm okay for now he is leaving it until we have to change it due to all the gastric issues they are working on as well.. > > > > I know that people say the levels need to be lower but with my > > history we have found I feel the best in the 2.0 to 2.75 range.... > > The lower range is probably a long term adjustment to daily pulses of > T3. A TSH of 2.0 is a good initial target. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 the best bovine thyroid glandular comes from Standard Process. I actually take thyroid, adrenal and pituitary glandulars as well as thyroid and adrenal meds. Gracia I have no idea what it is callled. But my neighbor just went on it this week.. and in three days can tell a difference. She did her own natural thyroid test by taking her temp and going to a holistic guy that does not do blood but does saliva and temp testing. I saw her bottle and then when he mentioned it I knew it was the same thing. She got it at a natural health food store/pharmacy in Texas. --- Recent Activity a.. 12New Members Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2007 Report Share Posted June 22, 2007 I think that bovine thyroid med from the health food center has all of the medical properties removed. If so it's just very expensive hamburger. > Re: Hey there > <hypothyroidism/message/28849;_ylc=X3oDMTJxOWIya2s\ wBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMjg4NDkEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MjUwNDgyNw--> > > > > Posted by: " and Irwin " familyirwin@... > <mailto:familyirwin@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Hey%20there> > fritzalseth <fritzalseth> > > > Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:13 am (PST) > > Hi, > Could you tell me name of natural bovine med he is talking about? > Thanks so much!! > > > hipmmmy <hipmmmy@... <mailto:hipmmmy%40>> wrote: > What I love about this new dr is > that he LOVES Armour... he said that he normally will switch people > from synthroid to the natural bovine thyroid med from the health food > center... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 In regards to the birth control and hypot thing, I took brith control about two years ago but had to stop taking it because it made me so bloated and so ridiculously tired.? I think my hashi's had already started at this point and the estrogen in the pill made it much worse. I was diagnosed with hashi's about 8 months ago. Hey there Dear Melody, I have the similar horror story of women on Snythorid and relief switching over to Armour. I tried for ages to get my regular doctor to switch me over, but he kept insisting my test were normal. I told him to hang the test results, I still had all the symptoms, I would rather have no symptoms and have my tests off. I finally got a diabetic specialist on accident, because my regular doctor wasn't available, who switched me over, because he said he had " antidotal evidence " that Armour relieved the symptoms, against the publish medical reports. My regular doctor didn't even catch my hypothyroidism even though I had been going to him for over two years, telling him that I just didn't feel right, was always tired, (I actually would fall asleep in front of my computer at work after sleeping 12 hours the night before) was always hot/cold and had difficulty keeping even one thought in my mind. I would loose track of the simplest things. I'm used to being able to track multiple thoughts, ideas, conversations etc... He kept telling me I was just getting old, and that the " slow down " was normal, because I had just had a child. I told him I didn't feel this way after my first child, and his answer was, " You had your first child over ten years ago " . My OB/GYN caught it when I went in because I had stopped breast feeding and still hadn't gotten my period after six months. The OB/GYN put me on some kind of hormone which made me tear up the office. After loosing my cool at work, I called him to ask what kind of side effects the hormone would cause, to which he told me it was the " premenstrual " hormone which causes severe PMS in order to bring on my period. It turned out that I was pregnant. I ended up loosing the baby, because he hadn't done a pregnancy test. At the time I lived in a court and I talked to all the women who lived in the court. Every woman who lived in the court had thyroid issues and had been on the birth control pill in their younger years, except for two lesbians... which neither had been on birth control or had thyroid problems. I'm curious how many women with thyroid problems have taken birth control pills or may even still be on them? Anyway... back to your question if chiropractic work has reduced anyone's need for Armour. I haven't had chiropractic work done, but I have had Bowen also known as Bowtech bodywork done on me. Initially I was on three grains of Armour and considering upping my own dose because my periods were getting further apart again, but I went to a " first session " of training in Bowen and had found I could reduce my dose to two grains with no change in my periods. I decided to take a leap of faith when I went to take the " second session " of training and from that point on, haven't taken any at all since then, about nine years. One other " notable " out come of the second session of Bowen training was the lateral support in my left knee, which prior to the second training only needed a tap or sideways movement for my knee to go out. I had this lack of lateral support in my left knee for 18 years and my knee was actually out at the time of the second session, when a " Bowen movement " was done off my sacrum, I took a step, heard a " snap " sound and my knee went into place. My knee hadn't gone out in seven years. Two years ago, it went out when I was crawling on my knees across my bed (a soft surface) holding a heavy box over my head (I was going to store it in the corner at the head of my bed), my knee went out. I crawled across the hard floor, because I couldn't stand up and my knee went right back into place. Since then it has gone out whenever I have placed any weight on my knees on a soft surface, but goes right back in once I place the same weight while on a hard surface. The reason I joined this group recently, is because after nine years, my periods have gone from coinciding with the full moon, to alternating between the full and new moons, making them six weeks apart. So I'm considering retaking the second session of Bowen, but I decided to check out what other people are doing, because I don't want to wait until I start loosing my ability to think or my body's ability to react to environmental changes. Currently, I am needing much more sleep than I have in years, and my weight gain has increased, with no changes in eating or activity, so I am concerned that the thyroid issues are coming back. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 I only took birth control meds when I was in my early 20's, and it was to prevent ovarian cysts. Funny thing is, I learned that ovarian cysts are a symptom of thyroid problems. I wasn't diagnosed hypo until I was almost 40 and I was trying to figure out why I was depressed and had such horrible PMS symptoms. Interesting? Edie wrote: In regards to the birth control and hypot thing, I took brith control about two years ago but had to stop taking it because it made me so bloated and so ridiculously tired.? I think my hashi's had already started at this point and the estrogen in the pill made it much worse. I was diagnosed with hashi's about 8 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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