IDEAS? Alternative Cancer Treatment

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There is a place in CA called the Sharp Institute for Human Potential and

Mind/Body Medicine in San Diego.

It is run by a man named Chopra, who is an endocrinologist (MD, But very

alternative healing methods practiced along with conservative ones if the

patient wishes. He has had success with helping patients return to health

from cancer.

~le

My dad has a friend who is dying of cancer. He has between 6-18

> months to live. He is willing to try alternative

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There is an excellent book called " Options: The Alternative Cancer Therapy

Book " ,

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0895295105/qid=1008911661/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2\

_11_2/103-4266182-2975068.

I personally have experience with Essiac tea, which a friend of mine used.

Although she started too late to have it cure her, before she was using it she

was sleeping, couldn't eat, and was in a great deal of pain. As soon as she

started, she was able to sleep, eat, and was virtually pain-free. If you decide

to try it, I would buy it ready made (there are " authorized " versions which you

can read about on the web - if you need help I'll try and find the web-site for

you).

Sandy from Alaska

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Re: IDEAS? Alternative Cancer Treatment

I haven't done much research into cancer alternatives yet, but here is

something I posted to someone a few months back. Also, what about Dr. Day?

She fought and won her battle with breast cancer and sells a video that

supposedly details how she did it. www.drday.com

Hi there, I'm not familiar with all the various alternative cancer

treatments. Oh my gosh I just remembered that I believe Dr. Klenner included

cancer info in his Vitamin C paper. Something like that, can't hurt and can

only help. I would definitely research it. Here are some links to Dr.

Klenner's work.

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Here's a cancer reference taken from Dr. Klenner's paper:Could ascorbic acid

have anti-cancer features?Schlegel 50 from Tulane University has been using

1.5 grams ascorbic acid daily to prevent recurrences of cancer of the

bladder. He and biochemist Pipkin [50] have been able to demonstrate that in

the presence of ascorbic acid, carcinogenic metabolites will not develop in

the urine. They suggest that spontaneous tumor formation is the result of

faulty tryptophane metabolism while urine is retained in the bladder.

Schlegel termed ascorbic acid “An Anticancer Vitaminâ€. Along this line Glick

and Hosoda 51 reported on work by Von Numers and Pettersson that the

depletion of mast cells from guinea pigs skin was due to ascorbic acid

deficiency. The possibilities indicated are that vitamin C is necessary

either directly or indirectly for formation of mast cells, or for their

maintenance once formed or both. Ascorbic acid will control myelocytic

leukemia provided 25 to 30 grams are taken orally each day. One can only

speculate on what massive therapy would do in all forms of cancer. Many

pathologic conditions are cured by giving 5 million to 100,000 million units

of penicillin as an intravenous drip over a period of 4 to 6 weeks. How long

must we wait for someone to start continuous ascorbic acid drip for 2 to 3

months, giving 100 to 300 grams each day, for various malignant conditions?

A couple links for vitamin therapy research <A

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..com/menue/studien/uk/introduction.htm</A>

Here's a blurb from dr.rath:The discovery that cancer growth and metastasis

can be prevented by optimum supply of lysine and other natural substances

blocking the enzymatic digestion of the connective tissue by cancer

cells.Here's a page at Dr. Rath's site that you should explore thoroughly

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ww.drrath.com/mr-publishing-internet/cancer/uk/index.htm</A>

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om/cathcart_thirdface.html</A>

I'm not knowledgeable about ESSIAC tea other than I have heard people have

had success using it for their cancer. That and the fact that I've heard that

there are alot of inferior imitators of the original formula created by

Caisse. Here's a website which purports to sell the original formula:

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HREF= " http://www.praxea.com/retail/essiac/one_and_only.htm " >http://www.praxea.co\

m/retail/essiac/one_and_only.htm</A>

ESSIAC ® - The Original FormulaWhat is the difference between the ESSIAC ®

tea formula by Rene Caisse and all the other brands? In 1977, the Resperin

Corporation of Canada obtained the original formula from Nurse Rene Caisse

just before her death. This proprietary formula used by Nurse Rene Caisse has

shown to be effective since 1922. Today, only a select few businesses on the

internet are authorized ESSIAC ® agents.The ESSIAC ® herbs used alone all

have cleansing properties. Combined in their proper ratios, they will help

maximize the cleansing effect on the body. I have heard and read of how

cancer has shrunk in size - or hardened - coming to the surface of the skin

only to break open to release its poison from the body. There are many

stories such as this. The one effect I have seen and keep hearing about is

how ESSIAC ® improves the vitality of the person using the tea. The herbs are

helping to cleanse the toxins from the body creating a healthier immune

system to possibly deal with cancer more effectively.

In a message dated 12/20/2001 8:28:20 PM Central Standard Time,

pkoschak@... writes:

> My dad has a friend who is dying of cancer. He has between 6-18

> months to live. He is willing to try alternative treatments. Any

> ideas? SHERI? I am not sure what kind it is but we are trying to

> find out. He lives in Klamath Falls, Oregon.

>

>

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In a message dated 12/21/01 4:28:24 AM GTB Standard Time, pkoschak@...

writes:

<< Any

ideas? SHERI? I am not sure what kind it is but we are trying to

find out. He lives in Klamath Falls, Oregon. >>

There are a few alternative clinics out there.Look for the Robbins(?)

book...reclaiming our health.Has a section on cancer and how allopathics try

to suppress various alternative treatments.Anyway he mentions a few different

types of treatment.Homeopathics,herbs,and IV VIT C might help. <A

HREF= " http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/center.asp?centerid=23 " >Click

here: HealthWorld Online - Cancer Center - Natural & Alternative Approaches

</A>

sara

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In a message dated 12/20/2001 10:11:22 PM Central Standard Time,

whalen@... writes:

> It is run by a man named Chopra, who is an endocrinologist (MD, But very

> alternative healing methods practiced along with conservative ones if the

> patient wishes. He has had success with helping patients return to health

> from cancer.

>

> ~le

>

is this deepak chopra??

kim

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In a message dated 12/21/2001 4:37:24 AM Central Standard Time,

vaccineinfo@... writes:

> Do you all realize in the US and UK it is illegal to treat cancer any other

> way than surgery, radiation and chemo.

> Free country - right!

sheri, THat should read: Do you all realize in the US and UK it is illegal to

kill cancer patients any other way than surgery, radiation and chemo.

kim LOL

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In a message dated 12/21/2001 5:41:33 AM Central Standard Time,

kcumming@... writes:

> www.alleleujahacres.com

> Kathy

>

rev malkmus cured himself using raw food. i think its the only way.

kim

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yes, see www.ouralexander.org

>

>It is illegal for them to 'treat' the cancer, but they can work with his

>vital force and affect it all!

>Do you all realize in the US and UK it is illegal to treat cancer any other

>way than surgery, radiation and chemo.

>Free country - right!

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At 02:27 AM 12/21/2001 -0000, you wrote:

>My dad has a friend who is dying of cancer. He has between 6-18

>months to live. He is willing to try alternative treatments. Any

>ideas? SHERI? I am not sure what kind it is but we are trying to

>find out. He lives in Klamath Falls, Oregon.

Some great homeopaths in Oregon

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/STEVELIST.htm

It is illegal for them to 'treat' the cancer, but they can work with his

vital force and affect it all!

Do you all realize in the US and UK it is illegal to treat cancer any other

way than surgery, radiation and chemo.

Free country - right!

--------------------------------------------------------

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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www.alleleujahacres.com

Kathy

> My dad has a friend who is dying of cancer. He has between 6-18

> months to live. He is willing to try alternative treatments. Any

> ideas? SHERI? I am not sure what kind it is but we are trying to

> find out. He lives in Klamath Falls, Oregon.

>

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sorry, the link should be www.hacrec.com

Kathy

> www.alleleujahacres.com

> Kathy

>

>

> > My dad has a friend who is dying of cancer. He has between 6-18

> > months to live. He is willing to try alternative treatments. Any

> > ideas? SHERI? I am not sure what kind it is but we are trying to

> > find out. He lives in Klamath Falls, Oregon.

> >

[Guest guest]

okay, sorry folks, its way too early here

the link should be

www.hacres.com

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Guys, thanks for posting all of this stuff.

Just got off the phone with my mom. The doctor wants her to take tamoxophin

(sp?) and two different chemotherapy drugs, cyclophosphamide and

doxorubicin. Her heart is telling her to stay away from the chemo drugs,

that the whole concept of chemotherapy is barbaric, and nobody but my

husband and I are supporting her in that. Everyone is saying " Just take the

drugs and get it over with. "

Obviously, I have my research assignment ahead of me. She has six weeks to

make a decision.

Goldmeer

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, I would look into what are emerging as problems with tamoxophen - I

don't remember what they are, though.

When I get a chance, I'll try and do some research for you.

Good luck!

Sandy

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RE: Re: IDEAS? Alternative Cancer Treatment

Guys, thanks for posting all of this stuff.

Just got off the phone with my mom. The doctor wants her to take tamoxophin

(sp?) and two different chemotherapy drugs, cyclophosphamide and

doxorubicin. Her heart is telling her to stay away from the chemo drugs,

that the whole concept of chemotherapy is barbaric, and nobody but my

husband and I are supporting her in that. Everyone is saying " Just take the

drugs and get it over with. "

Obviously, I have my research assignment ahead of me. She has six weeks to

make a decision.

Goldmeer

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Well youre in a good place for ideas and info. !

Good luck.......:-)

Sue

SAHM

dd Ruby 2.6 yrs

Wales, UK

[Guest guest]

it's great that they gave her some time to make some decisions .... I have a

friend that had uterine cancer somewhere around 2 years ago, she's being treated

with herbal chinese teas and has been cancer free for 18 months. She has to

take some maintenance every so often, but otherwise seems perfectly healthy

without the need for conventional medicines or surgeries.

Best wishes to you, your mom and your family.

[Guest guest]

We bought this (essiac)for my FIL and he also used a HP along with the Vit C

therapy and chemo/radiation for lymphoma.

Laurie>Oh

There is an excellent book called " Options: The Alternative Cancer Therapy

Book " ,

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0895295105/qid=1008911661/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2\

_11_2/103-4266182-2975068.

I personally have experience with Essiac tea,

Sandy from Alaska