Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 >It is a HUGE issue over here and more and more are refusing. He has a >nephew or something with autism, sis in law who is homeopath and works with >autism, wife is interested in alternative healing therapies and new age >things - you tell me they got the vaccine - I don't think so. >-------------------------------------------------------- > I don't think so, either. Remember, 2/3 of MDs refuse the Hep B vaccine for themselves!! I have an acquaintance who is a pediatrician and she refuses the shots for her OWN kids who are all bright eyed and bushy tailed, yet makes her living injecting this poison into other people's kids! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 Do you really think he was dumb enough to give his child ANY vaccines?? The singles are not safe, either. They knew in the 60's that vaccines were causing autism. It does not have to be just the MMR, it can be any of them. At 03:42 PM 12/24/01 +0000, you wrote: >Sorry, don't buy it. A 'hint' does not the truth make! And again, I will >reiterate - I DO NOT think single vaccines are safe either. >Sheri > >http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/article/0,,9003-2001591889,00.html > >SUNDAY DECEMBER 30 2001 > >Blair hints his son has had MMR jab > >EBEN BLACK AND ROSIE WATERHOUSE > >TONY BLAIR bowed to pressure last night and came close to confirming that >his 19-month-old son Leo has had the controversial MMR vaccination. > >The prime minister's statement followed a revelation in The Sunday Times >that a young relative of the Blairs has autism, which has been linked by >some doctors and parents to the vaccine. For three weeks Blair had insisted >on keeping Leo's medical record confidential while controversy raged over >the vaccine, which government health officers insist is a vital safeguard >against measles, mumps and rubella. > >There were further strong declarations from Downing Street earlier >yesterday that Blair and his wife Cherie would be making no comment. But >the statement, written by the prime minister at Chequers, his official >country retreat, where he was hosting talks with the Russian president, >Vladimir Putin, leaves little doubt that Leo has had the jab. > > " The suggestion that the government is advising parents to have the MMR jab >whilst we are deliberately refraining from giving our child the treatment >because we know it is dangerous is offensive beyond belief, " Blair stated. > " For the record, Cherie and I both entirely support the advice, as we have >consistently said throughout. It is not true that we believe the MMR >vaccine to be dangerous or that we believe it is better to have separate >injections, as has been maliciously suggested in the press, or believe that >it is linked to autism. " > >Blair's statement continues: " On the contrary, the vaccine, which is used >throughout the world, helps prevent the spread of diseases that can, if >contracted, cause very serious damage to children. > > " Parents, including ourselves, can rely not on the advice of the >government's chief medical officer alone about the MMR vaccine, but on the >overwhelming advice from virtually every reputable source, including the >World Health Organisation and the Royal College of Paediatricians. They can >rely also on the again overwhelming research that has found the alleged >link between autism and MMR to be unfounded. " > >The controversy over the Blairs' silence reached new heights on Wednesday >after the prime minister was asked in the Commons whether Leo had had an >MMR jab by Kirkbride, the Conservative MP for Bromsgrove, who has a >14-month-old son. Blair refused to answer. > >Kirkbride yesterday accused him of trying to gag ministers, who have mostly >toed the Downing Street line and refused to say if their children had >received the jab or not. > > " We are politicians and we tell the public what to do, and I think the >public have a right to know whether we apply those same standards in our >own lives, " said Kirkbride. In recent weeks Blair's reticence over whether >or not Leo has been vaccinated with MMR has been taken as a sign of doubt >about the vaccine. > >This weekend Dr Ian Gibson, a former loyal Labour MP, stoked the >controversy by saying Blair should reveal whether his son had received the >jab. Gibson, an academic biologist and chairman of the Commons science and >technology committee, said that " people look to leaders " on complex >scientific issues and that " MMR falls in that category " . > >Blair, in his statement, continued to insist on his family's right to >privacy. " The reason we have refused to say whether Leo has had the MMR >vaccine is because we never have commented on the medical health or >treatment of our children, " he said. " The advice to parents to have the MMR >jab is one of scores of pieces of advice or campaigns the government >supports in matters ranging from underage sex to teenage alcohol abuse or >smoking, to different types of advice for very young children on a huge >range of activities from breast-feeding to safe play. Once we comment on >one, it is hard to see how we can justify not commenting at all. " > >Commenting on a report in another Sunday newspaper hinting that it was a >relative of Cherie's who was parent to the autistic child, Blair went on: > " I am only sorry that my wife's family has had their privacy invaded in a >way that is not only wrong in itself, but which because the facts have been >so totally distorted, can only be corrected by invading their privacy still >further. " > >The cause of the child's condition is not known. But the child is young >enough to have had the vaccine. > >Cherie is known to have attended functions at the Treehouse, a charity in >London set up by the author Nick Hornby - himself the father of an autistic >child - because of " concerns over the family links with autism " , according >to sources close to the charity. > >Cherie's sister, Lyndsey Booth, a former lawyer who now works as a >homeopath, is an active campaigner for the rights of autistic children. It >was revealed last night that she attended a Downing Street meeting with >health department officials and Dr Wakefield, the scientist who >first raised concerns over a link between MMR and autism. >Last year she attended the launch of the all-party Commons group on autism. > >A number of clinics that offer separate vaccinations against measles, mumps >and rubella - which some parents believe to be safer - have seen a 25% rise >in applicants, it emerged yesterday. Parents unwilling to accept the >government's assurances on MMR are either avoiding vaccination altogether >or seeking alternatives. The World Health Organisation recommends a 95% >uptake among the population to ensure good protection against the diseases. > >The latest quarterly figures from the Public Health Laboratory Service >suggest that of all the two-year-olds across the UK due to have the jab >between April and June 2001, only 84.2% had done so. Doctors and clinics >dispensing individual vaccines for measles, mumps and rubella report large >increases in clients in the past three weeks. Direct Health 2000, a >nationwide clinic service that offers the single vaccines, has had a 25% >increase. Durnford, a director, said that the Blairs' refusal to >discuss their son's immunisation was causing concern over the safety of the >MMR jab and that several doctors and midwives had brought their children in >to have single vaccines. " People ring up all the time and say they are >calling because of what they have read about Leo Blair, " said Durnford. > > " They are saying if he has had the single, why are our health ministers >making us have the triple? Their instinct is that if Leo had had the MMR, >his parents would have endorsed its safety. " > >There are only about a dozen doctors in the country who will give the >vaccines separately. Mansfield, a GP who has clinics in >Worcestershire and Lincolnshire, was one of the first to offer single >vaccines. He said his clinics had seen a 100% increase in people seeking >the vaccines singly directly as a result of the row over Leo Blair. > >Additional reporting: Adam > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK >$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account >vaccineinfo@... >(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail >PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE >DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. >Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin >International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers >Education, Homeopathic Education >CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 In a message dated 12/24/2001 9:41:14 AM Central Standard Time, vaccineinfo@... writes: > Sorry, don't buy it. SHeri, I dont know..... wouldnt it be fabulous if they have refused it. but Somehow i doubt they are that clued up to have refused the MMR. even the " brightest " medical parents are giving it to their kids here. kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2001 Report Share Posted December 24, 2001 At 02:11 PM 12/24/2001 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 12/24/2001 9:41:14 AM Central Standard Time, >vaccineinfo@... writes: > > >> Sorry, don't buy it. > >SHeri, I dont know..... wouldnt it be fabulous if they have refused it. but >Somehow i doubt they are that clued up to have refused the MMR. even the > " brightest " medical parents are giving it to their kids here. >kim > > It is a HUGE issue over here and more and more are refusing. He has a nephew or something with autism, sis in law who is homeopath and works with autism, wife is interested in alternative healing therapies and new age things - you tell me they got the vaccine - I don't think so. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2001 Report Share Posted December 25, 2001 >> Sorry, don't buy it. > >SHeri, I dont know..... wouldnt it be fabulous if they have refused it. but >Somehow i doubt they are that clued up to have refused the MMR. even the > " brightest " medical parents are giving it to their kids here. >kim It is a HUGE issue over here and more and more are refusing. He has a nephew or something with autism, sis in law who is homeopath and works with autism, wife is interested in alternative healing therapies and new age things - you tell me they got the vaccine - I don't think so. I CANNOT WAIT TO FIND OUT THE TRUTH. IF THEY DID NOT GIVE IT (AND IF YOU DONT THINK THEY DID, THEN IM SURE THEY DIDNT), THAT IS A HUGE LEAP TOWARD EXPOSING THIS TERRIBLE JAB. AS WE USED TO SAY IN SA, Aluta Continua! (the struggle continues)......... or Amandla Ngawethu (power to the people)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2001 Report Share Posted December 25, 2001 In a message dated 12/24/2001 2:38:47 PM Central Standard Time, moira@... writes: > I have an acquaintance who is a pediatrician and she refuses the shots for > her OWN kids who are all bright eyed and bushy tailed, yet makes her living > injecting this poison into other people's kids! INCREDIBLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 Load of christmas turkey!!!!!! Blair hints indeed! No he hasnt! It is called skirting around the issue! Sue SAHM dd Ruby 2.6 yrs Wales, UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2001 Report Share Posted December 26, 2001 I don't think they got the MMR for Leo either Sheri. Singles , maybe.........definately no MMR though. Can't wait for it to come out!! And it will, somehow...... Sue SAHM dd Ruby 2.6 yrs Wales, UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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