Guest guest Posted November 28, 2001 Report Share Posted November 28, 2001 From Jackie at JABS in the UK! jabs@... This is the follow up to the article recently in Private Eye in October (there is no URL) Like this comment " We stated in the article that we have received funding from vaccine manufacturers (none of which has been personal profit). It would be professional suicide to take a particular stance on an issue for reasons other than the scientific evidence. " Professional suicide - right! Sheri 30/11/01 Private Eye MMR: The Doctors Reply Sir, " More needle over MMR " (1038) criticised our report in Archives of Diseases in Childhood in which we reviewed the evidence on the purported link between MMR vaccine and autism for our colleagues in child health. The intention was not to " rubbish " Wakefield but to examine the scientific evidence. Unfortunately, since the research suggesting a link between MMR, autism and bowel disease has been almost exclusively conducted by Wakefield and colleagues, any criticism of the evidence may be construed as criticism of the author rather than the science. You state that we made " great claims " for the " Finnish study " . It is unfortunate that you failed to notice that we were not referring to the recent much quoted study by Patja, but to two more rigorous studies published in 1986 and 1998. We also cited not only the original 1999 paper, but a more recent paper in which the data were re-analysed to allow for the diagnosis of autism up to three years following MMR vaccine. This re-analysis confirmed no association between MMR vaccine and autism. In referring to a regimen of the three single vaccines never having being used in this age group, we meant exactly that. This fact is fundamentally important. Single measles vaccines were indeed used in the UK from 1967 to 1988, and are still recommended by WHO in some circumstances. Rubella vaccine was commonly used in secondary school girls. This is entirely different from the regimen that some professionals are advocating. It is not possible to predict, from this experience, the safety and efficacy of the proposed regimen ie single measles, mumps and rubella vaccines at yearly intervals. Following the introduction of the combined MMR vaccine there was a significant reduction in these diseases. We assume that the reference to the outbreak of measles in a highly immunised population concerns a paper published in the South African Medical journal in 1994 ( " The 1992 measles epidemic in Cape Town - a changing epidemiological pattern " Coetzee et al). The authors concluded not that there was a difference in efficacy between the combined MMR and the single measles vaccine, but that the MMR had not been stored properly. This emphasises the importance of reading the original scientific research, in full, rather that relying on someone else's interpretation. This also applies to the 1988 paper by Wakefield et al, often quoted as the basis for the fears about the safety of MMR vaccine. However, in the paper the authors themselves said " We did not prove an association between measles, mumps and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described " . Our " selective " questioning of the use of two specific strains of mumps vaccine was to highlight the problems inherent in the use of unlicensed products. Some children have been given these vaccines and are now either inadequately protected or ran the risk of developing meningitis. The Archives paper reviewed the evidence to date concerning a proported association between MMR vaccine, autism and bowel disease, it was not intended to provide a complete review of the safety profile of MMR vaccine. In your piece you gave the impression that the infrequent associations of idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura (ITP) and convulsions and MMR vaccine have only just been revealed. They have been recognised for many years, albeit at a much lower incidence than occurs with natural infection. We stated in the article that we have received funding from vaccine manufacturers (none of which has been personal profit). It would be professional suicide to take a particular stance on an issue for reasons other than the scientific evidence. We are not alone in concluding that the evidence does not support an association between MMR vaccine and autism or bowel disease. In presenting an unbiased picture, you will of course be reporting the latest paper by Fombonne in which he reported no association between MMR vaccine and regressive autism as originally suggested by Dr Wakefield? We stand by our conclusion that: " While the final decision rests with the parents, the evidence of the safety and efficacy of MMR vaccine is so overwhelmingly conclusive that health professionals should have no hesitation in recommending its use. " Yours sincerely DAVID ELLIMAN, Consultant in Community Child Health, St 's Hospital, London HELEN BEDFORD, Lecturer in the Epidemiology of Child Health, Institute of Child Health, London Sir, Re: " More Needle over MMR " , (3 October 2001.) I am writing to you to correct several significant factual inaccuracies which appeared in the above article in Private Eye earlier this month. Your report implies that the media coverage of the " Archives of Disease in Childhood " paper suggested that this was new research, rather than a review of previous reasearch. No attempt was made by the PHLS to present this as anything other than an overview. Indeed, as your own article points out, I described it as such in my commentary; and the PHLS press office was at pains to point out to journalists who called us that this was not " new research " . You state that the policy of using separate vaccines is fully sanctioned by the WHO - it is not. The WHO fully endorses the use of the triple MMR vaccine as the best way of protecting children against the disease; it has never endorsed the use of single measles, mumps and rubella vaccines. I stand by the view that there is no evidence about the safety and effectiveness of single vaccines used in place of MMR. You are correct to say that there are studies of single vaccines used in isolation, such as the 1994 measles vaccine study. However, there is no evidence looking at the safety or effectiveness of giving single measles, mumps and rubella vaccines, separated by a time interval, to the same child as part of a routine immunisation schedule. Parents who have expressed concern about MMR have often cited the interaction of the three elements as a key concern; the lack of evidence about how three single doses will interact is therefore likely to be of particular concern to those parents. The separate measles and mumps vaccines being imported are not licensed in this country; where doctors give such vaccines, they do so on an unlicensed, named patient basis. You might like to note that I have done work investigating adverse reactions to vaccines; as you mention in your article, I have published (and publicised) work which looked at the association between MMR and idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura (ITP), a rare rash disorder. The study concluded that the measles and rubella vaccine components of MMR were associated with an increased rate of ITP, but that the reaction was rare, and relatively mild compared with the effect of the diseases measles, mumps and rubella themselves. I also led the research work which showed a link between a strain of mumps vaccine (the Urabe strain) and increased rates of viral meningitis. In this case the work led to the vaccine being withdrawn altogether. To suggest as you do that I am not prepared to be critical of vaccines when they are unsafe is simply not supported by the facts. Finally, you state that my work on MMR paved the way for its licensing. In fact, the work I coordinated on MMR was not part of the licence application at all. The vaccine licence was granted on the basis of work done elsewhere. I hope this clarifies the situation. Your sincerely DR. ELIZABETH MILLER, Head, PHLS Immunisation Division. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... 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