Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 I am also studying homeopathy with sheri. You are right in that i do find that some of the A. doctors throw many remedies at you and some are ineffectual. ( i experienced that once), however my doctor in chicago is great. she has treated my daughters eye infection with Homoepathic drops and it worked really well, never to return. i like that fact that she does also practice medicine when necessary. for example if my daughter were to get whooping cough, she could use antibiotics if nec. whereas a classical homeopath would not. i would take my duaghter to a class homeoapath if i wanted good homeopathy. thats not why i go to the A doctor. I like that she does different things. she did a stool test and recommended probiotics for diarrhea. it worked too never to return again. my daughter was waking at 3am every morning. she suggested a fennel compress. it worked the same night. etc etc etc. hope that explains why i like her, kim In a message dated 12/14/2001 11:33:21 PM Central Standard Time, lucasjt@... writes: > Subj:Re: Anthroposophical doctors > Date:12/14/2001 11:33:21 PM Central Standard Time > From: lucasjt@... ( & Troy Lucas) > Reply-to: <A HREF= " mailto:Vaccinations " >Vaccinations </A> > Vaccinations > > > > > I didn't see Trisha's early post but one of our pediatricians is an anthro. > doctor. I don't know how I feel about him. After studying homeopathy more > with Sheri I am having a hard time with people who throw more than one > remedy and herbs at a patient when they are ill. > L. > Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 I didn't see Trisha's early post but one of our pediatricians is an anthro. doctor. I don't know how I feel about him. After studying homeopathy more with Sheri I am having a hard time with people who throw more than one remedy and herbs at a patient when they are ill. L. Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00 Anthroposophical doctors trisha The A. doctors have a member directory. here is one in california, phone and find out if they have one close to you. she can look in her member directory. they do believe that childhood illnesses have meaning and should not be vaccinated. ida leong, MD, work phone: 831 462-4595. specialty general medicine good luck trisha. let me know how it goes. i love my A. doctor even though i dont agree with everything. she is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 In a message dated 12/15/2001 9:09:14 AM Central Standard Time, vaccineinfo@... writes: > Just an FYI, Kim. Antibiotics have never been proven to do anything with > pertussis - that's why they invented the vaccine. You are better with > homeopathy and remedies - will heal much better and not have the added > damaged layer of antibiotics! > ;-) > sheri, you are way further than me on all this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If my > daughter were say one month old and she was going to die from whooping > cough, dont know if i could turn down antibiotics. but if you say they dont > even work, well thats something to consider. its an awful thought, and one > that has plagued me for a year, hence my relief that she is now one year > old and not so young that she could die from it. of course she is unvax. > kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 In a message dated 12/15/01 8:42:58 PM GTB Standard Time, radiantmother@... writes: << s. but if you say they dont > even work, well thats something to consider. its an awful thought, and one > that has plagued me for a year, hence my relief that she is now one year > old and not so young that she could die from it. of course she is unvax. >> In some countries antibios for pertussis are not given UNLESS a secondary bacterial infection develops....<A HREF= " http://www.drugbase.co.za/data/med_info/wcough.htm " >Click here: Pertussis (Whooping Cough)</A> http://www.drugbase.co.za/data/med_info/wcough.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 Kim, That's exactly why we use our A. doc as well as a homeopath/md family practice. I want to have a classical homeopath on hand as well then maybe I'll feel like my bases are covered!!! L. Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00 ----- i like that fact that she does also practice medicine when necessary. for example if my daughter were to get whooping cough, she could use antibiotics if nec. whereas a classical homeopath would not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 At 12:48 AM 12/15/2001 EST, you wrote: >I am also studying homeopathy with sheri. You are right in that i do find >that some of the A. doctors throw many remedies at you and some are >ineffectual. ( i experienced that once), however my doctor in chicago is >great. she has treated my daughters eye infection with Homoepathic drops and >it worked really well, never to return. i like that fact that she does also >practice medicine when necessary. for example if my daughter were to get >whooping cough, she could use antibiotics if nec. Just an FYI, Kim. Antibiotics have never been proven to do anything with pertussis - that's why they invented the vaccine. You are better with homeopathy and remedies - will heal much better and not have the added damaged layer of antibiotics! ;-) -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 According to http://www.health.state.nm.us/website.nsf/c893def3c36b22738725676000514a8e/a 0cb094d2855b9b1872567430064b95e?OpenDocument, and http://www.bu.edu/bridge/archive/2001/02-02/health.html, antibiotics are effective but only if given at the beginning of the illness before the cough becomes established. I remember reading that high doses of vitamin C reduce the duration of pertussis Could you provide the reference for antibiotics not being proven effective for pertussis so I can read further? Thanks, -----Original Message----- In a message dated 12/15/2001 9:09:14 AM Central Standard Time, vaccineinfo@... writes: > Just an FYI, Kim. Antibiotics have never been proven to do anything with > pertussis - that's why they invented the vaccine. You are better with > homeopathy and remedies - will heal much better and not have the added > damaged layer of antibiotics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 (I've been on lurk mode for several months since the birth of my 3rd child, but have been on this list for a few years) Since I, for one, often reference the information I see here, I have to make sure I'm passing on accurate information. (my sister's a microbiologist and my mother's in the medical profession also, so if I pass on a mistake it reduces the believability of anything else I forward wrt vaccines.) So antibiotics are proven to do something with pertussis; at the least they reduce the duration of the disease if given right away. (I've read that vitamin C reduces the duration even better than do antibiotics and would prefer the vit C.) My last question would be, in what way do the antibiotics add a damaged layer? It would be discouraging to find that antibiotics are harmful, since having the option of antibiotics is what sways many parents to not get the pertussis shot. Thanks, -----Original Message----- In a message dated 12/15/2001 9:09:14 AM Central Standard Time, vaccineinfo@... writes: > Just an FYI, Kim. Antibiotics have never been proven to do anything with > pertussis - that's why they invented the vaccine. You are better with > homeopathy and remedies - will heal much better and not have the added > damaged layer of antibiotics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 At 01:41 PM 12/15/2001 EST, you wrote: >In a message dated 12/15/2001 9:09:14 AM Central Standard Time, >vaccineinfo@... writes: > > >> Just an FYI, Kim. Antibiotics have never been proven to do anything with >> pertussis - that's why they invented the vaccine. You are better with >> homeopathy and remedies - will heal much better and not have the added >> damaged layer of antibiotics! >> ;-) >> sheri, you are way further than me on all this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If my >> daughter were say one month old and she was going to die from whooping >> cough, dont know if i could turn down antibiotics. but if you say they dont >> even work, No, if allopaths were honest with you they wouldtell you that - mostly the perscribe it for the rest of the family wishfully thinking it would change things. It doesn't. well thats something to consider. its an awful thought, and one >> that has plagued me for a year, hence my relief that she is now one year >> old and not so young that she could die from it. of course she is unvax. >> kim You have been given the gift of homeopathic knowledge passed on from the Masters. you will not need to fear and you will get more comfortable with that and your choices not to vaccinate as time goes on. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 At 12:15 PM 12/15/2001 -0800, you wrote: >(I've been on lurk mode for several months since the birth of my 3rd child, >but have been on this list for a few years) > >Since I, for one, often reference the information I see here, I have to make >sure I'm passing on accurate information. (my sister's a microbiologist and >my mother's in the medical profession also, so if I pass on a mistake it >reduces the believability of anything else I forward wrt vaccines.) So >antibiotics are proven to do something with pertussis; at the least they >reduce the duration of the disease if given right away. (I've read that >vitamin C reduces the duration even better than do antibiotics and would >prefer the vit C.) There is NO guarantee they do anything - every nurse and doctor should know that - if they don't they missed that day in class. Again, that is why they invented the vaccine - they invent vaccines when they think they have nothing they can do for a disease (alhtough homeopathy works very nicely they don't want to admit that) ie polio, mumps, measles, chix pox, rubella, pertussis, diphtheria, smallpox - all diseases that allopaths are helpless against (but homeopaths are not) - therefore they invent vaccines. Now they are inventing vaccines for diseases that antibiotics appeared to help with because of the mutation of the germs and the antibiotics don't work now - resistant. I say 'antibiotics appear to help' because they only suppress symptoms from a homeopathic perspective and force the body to find another way to release the disturbance. (if you want to know more about this, take my class that I will start again at the end of January!) > >My last question would be, in what way do the antibiotics add a damaged >layer? It would be discouraging to find that antibiotics are harmful, since >having the option of antibiotics is what sways many parents to not get the >pertussis shot. > >Thanks, > You have to have a knowledge and openness to homeopathy to understand that. Yes, antibiotics are harmful but you won't be able to convince your parents of that with a few sentences. Sheri > >-----Original Message----- >In a message dated 12/15/2001 9:09:14 AM Central Standard Time, >vaccineinfo@... writes: > > >> Just an FYI, Kim. Antibiotics have never been proven to do anything with >> pertussis - that's why they invented the vaccine. You are better with >> homeopathy and remedies - will heal much better and not have the added >> damaged layer of antibiotics! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2001 Report Share Posted December 16, 2001 Sheri, having read the lastest set of reading you gave us, specifically the one on comparing allopathy and homeopathy, i totally see what you mean now! thanks for opening my eyes to real " medicine " . kim In a message dated 12/15/2001 6:25:34 PM Central Standard Time, vaccineinfo@... writes: > You have to have a knowledge and openness to homeopathy to understand that. > Yes, antibiotics are harmful but you won't be able to convince your parents > of that with a few sentences. > Sheri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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