Guest guest Posted October 31, 2001 Report Share Posted October 31, 2001 >>There is also a fair amount of information on breastfeeding and HIB and other diseases on my website: www.vaccinationnews.com. Sandy from Alaska<< Thank you Sandy, I did check out your site - the first one I went to! I didn't see any connection on HIB and breastfeeding there, though. Did I miss it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 >My peds doc wants to vax for Hib< That one has the most mercury of all of them. Don't believe the lie that is there " thimerosal was removed from vaccines in 1999 " Not so according to Dr. Mark Geier who was asked to study vaccines and mercury by Congress. He said they are not taking it out or if they do, they put it back in and don't tell the public. I hope your husband will see the light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2004 Report Share Posted January 16, 2004 >He refused to sign her birth certificate which still really irritates me. < ????? What kind of statement is that?! What a jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Yeah, this doctor was a jerk, actually that is an understatement. He came into my hospital room the day my first daughter was born and told me if I didn’t vax her she would die. He said it like that too! I was fuming!! How dare he come in to my room and harass me like that! I am 30 years old, well will be Friday , never have been vaxed and I’m still here!! :-) He came in my room playing God thinking he would change my mind about vaxing her and when he didn’t win, he refused to sign her birth certificate. Needless to say, we have never, and will never see him again. I don’t know why some doctors have to be that way! Unvaxed mommy to Jaeden and Kendra (both also unvaxed) >He refused to sign her birth certificate which still really irritates me. < ????? What kind of statement is that?! What a jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Hi Molly, I think that you first have to determine whether or not the vaccine will give the protection that you are led to believe it does. If it doesn't then there is no need to go further. I have come to the conclusion that the risk is too high for the injection and that the chance of contracting the disease is not so risky. I have 5 unvaxed kids ages 3-22 and they have not gotten it. But then again, they have hardly been sick at all with anything because their immune systems are strong!! Mavis Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.†Eph 5:11 _VACCINE RISK AWARENESS NETWORK - " PERSONAL STORY LINKS " _ (http://www.vran.org/links/story-links.htm) _The Great HPV Vaccine Hoax Exposed_ (http://www.newstarget.com/Report_HPV_Vaccine_0.html) _Vaccination Information & Choice Network - _ (http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm) _Vaccination Liberation Home Page_ (http://www.vaclib.org/index.htm) _ThinkTwice Global Vaccine Institute: Avoid Vaccine Reactions_ (http://thinktwice.com/) _National Vaccine Information Center_ (http://909shot.com/) In a message dated 5/20/2008 3:09:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lachlan-molly@... writes: What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts HIB. Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? Thanks Molly **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Geri - you plan to give your baby another dose or two of Hib? Thanks for sharing. Molly > > Hi Molly, > Hib is the only one my 6 mo old has received, and most likely will be the only one I will ever give him. He has handled them all well. I decided on it only after thoroughly reading through safety info, efficacy and immune response data. > > Best Wishes, > Geri in KY > > HIB > > > >What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I > >waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts HIB. > >Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone > >dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > > >Thanks > >Molly > > > > > Geri L Sipe, M.S. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 The Hib had just come out when my oldest was a baby. He got it at one year, and my second son did, too. Neither of my other two are vaccinated (except for one tetanus--stupid me). My second (vaxed) son, I believe, had meningitis when he was five--sudden headache, backache, fever, lethargy, but was diagnosed with pneumonia, I'm sure because he was vaccinated he " couldn't " have meningitis. I'll never know for sure but I've never had a child so deathly ill as he was. It's good you're looking diseases individually. However, be very sure before you vaccinate that #1, the vaccine will work, and #2, that you are prepared to deal with any side effects, including death. Oh, and check NVIC for info on Hib: http://www.909shot.com/Diseases/HIB.htm and read the package insert for ingredients and warnings. Here's one link I found: http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm Good luck, Winnie HIB Vaccinations > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one > I > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts > HIB. > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has > anyone > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > Thanks > Molly > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Thanks Winnie. The side effects scare me to death. But meningitis doesn't sound very great either. I appreciate your info. Molly > > The Hib had just come out when my oldest was a baby. He got it at one year, and my second son did, too. Neither of my other two are vaccinated (except for one tetanus--stupid me). > > My second (vaxed) son, I believe, had meningitis when he was five-- sudden headache, backache, fever, lethargy, but was diagnosed with pneumonia, I'm sure because he was vaccinated he " couldn't " have meningitis. I'll never know for sure but I've never had a child so deathly ill as he was. > > It's good you're looking diseases individually. However, be very sure before you vaccinate that #1, the vaccine will work, and #2, that you are prepared to deal with any side effects, including death. > > Oh, and check NVIC for info on Hib: http://www.909shot.com/Diseases/HIB.htm > and read the package insert for ingredients and warnings. Here's one link I found: http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm > > Good luck, > > Winnie > > > HIB > Vaccinations > > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one > > I > > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts > > HIB. > > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has > > anyone > > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > > > Thanks > > Molly > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 HiB was a vaccine looking for a disease. It wasn't generally heard of until there was a vax available. Ask your mothers how they dealt with HiB before the advent of the vax. Chances are they'll say, " What's HiB? Seems the more we vaccinate, the more the kids get various meningitis diseases. Aseptic meningitis sounds just like polio. Oh, that's right, there are several hundred NEW names for polio since the advent of that dirty SV40-contaminated vaccine. My friends are going down with brain tumours, just as Dr Livingston-Wheeler predicted! That pharma shill, Sen Kennedy is reaping what he sowed, & the hand that fed him can't save him. They will earn a fortune pretending to treat him though! Since vax injury in the family, we have never wavered from our decision. The vax ingredients say it all. Not one of them is vital nutrition. I wouldn't give my babies formaldehyde, neomycin, foreign proteins, etc., orally - why inject them? Thus: by-passing the skin & GALT systems, the body's 1st & 2nd lines of defence, & introducing it deeply into humans. Formaldehyde is good for embalming purposes, but isn't healthy for live babies. There was a scare recently about the level of formaldehyde in childrens' pvjamas, for heaven's sake, mostly because they were made in overseas. Meantime our dear, friendly, Western, family doctor is injecting it into our babies! Wonder if it's a counterfeit vaccine from abroad. It won't really matter, as the real thing is pretty toxic anyway. Mothers who actually make a conscious decision to refuse vax are, generally speaking, the type of mothers who will move heaven & earth to ensure their children have excellent nutrition. When you next have to go to hospital for any reason, they won't ask you about your nutritional status. They are only interested in the opportunity to push drugs & vaccines, so they will ask about your drug & vax status instead! If you have been traumatised/injured, you do not want to add poisoning to your woes. Excuse my vehemence, I had sporadic nightmares for 15 years, where I heard the encephalitic screaming of my baby. There is a particular apathetic soft mewling animal-like cry that preceded it for over 2 weeks. I sometimes hear that mewling sound from babies nowadays, & my hair still stands on end. It makes me understand why Ignacz Semmelweiss was locked up for warning parents about dirty doctors causing puerperal fever. Best wishes, whatever your decisions. My heart goes out to you in your dilemma. Maracuja From: Molly <lachlan-molly@...> Subject: HIB Vaccinations Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 12:08 PM What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts HIB. Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? Thanks Molly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Meningitis doesn't sound good and I understand your concerns. My youngest son was repeatedly on antibiotics his first year because the docs had me so petrified of it. You'll figure it out. Winnie HIB > > Vaccinations > > > > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only > one > > > I > > > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child > contracts > > > HIB. > > > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has > > > anyone > > > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Molly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Again, thank you Winnie. > > > > > > The Hib had just come out when my oldest was a baby. He got it > > at > > one year, and my second son did, too. Neither of my other two > > are > > vaccinated (except for one tetanus--stupid me). > > > > > > My second (vaxed) son, I believe, had meningitis when he was > > five-- > > sudden headache, backache, fever, lethargy, but was diagnosed > > with > > pneumonia, I'm sure because he was vaccinated he " couldn't " have > > meningitis. I'll never know for sure but I've never had a child > > so > > deathly ill as he was. > > > > > > It's good you're looking diseases individually. However, be > > very > > sure before you vaccinate that #1, the vaccine will work, and > > #2, > > that you are prepared to deal with any side effects, including death. > > > > > > Oh, and check NVIC for info on Hib: > > http://www.909shot.com/Diseases/HIB.htm > > > and read the package insert for ingredients and warnings. > > Here's > > one link I found: http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > > > Winnie > > > > > > > > > HIB > > > Vaccinations > > > > > > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only > > one > > > > I > > > > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child > > contracts > > > > HIB. > > > > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has > > > > anyone > > > > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Molly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Maracuja Thank you for your response. First, I want to state, I am anti vax for all the reasons you have listed. The only thing I was/worried about is meningitis, which I am sure the pediatrician helps with by freaking me out with horror stories. However, I have also read just as many horror stories regarding vaccine reactions. I appreciate so many people taking the time to share their thoughts. It puts my head back in the game, and takes my emotional fear reaction down a notch. Molly > > From: Molly <lachlan-molly@...> > Subject: HIB > Vaccinations > Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 12:08 PM > > > > > > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts HIB. > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > Thanks > Molly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Wow, Molly - that is so cool. Good for you. They rely on our fear to sell their potions. If we support each other in cranking down that fear, then that's a good thing. We have had to battle their fear-mongering so many times. Even as recently as yesterday, my husband was offered a tetanus jab. It is over a quarter of a century since he left the military, and he's never had a vaccine since. Best wishes, Maracuja From: Molly <lachlan-molly@...> Subject: Re: HIB Vaccinations Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 10:59 PM Maracuja Thank you for your response. First, I want to state, I am anti vax for all the reasons you have listed. The only thing I was/worried about is meningitis, which I am sure the pediatrician helps with by freaking me out with horror stories. However, I have also read just as many horror stories regarding vaccine reactions. I appreciate so many people taking the time to share their thoughts. It puts my head back in the game, and takes my emotional fear reaction down a notch. Molly > > From: Molly <lachlan-molly@ ...> > Subject: HIB > Vaccinations > Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 12:08 PM > > > > > > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts HIB. > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > Thanks > Molly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Aja, Your post has actually made me cry only because I am one of those parents that will move heaven and earth to ensure my daughter has the best nutrition amongst anything else that she needs to be healthy. And if no vaxx is the way to go, so be it! I don't even think my husband realizes how much thought, sleepless nights, and research I do to keep my daughter healthy. Stopping all vaccinations was just one of them the rest is an everyday process and routine of healthiness. So God bless parents like yourself Aja and me! I am sorry you have those awful nightmares still. I can't begin to even understand how that might feel. Love, Rina > > From: Molly <lachlan-molly@...> > Subject: HIB > Vaccinations > Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 12:08 PM > > > > > > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts HIB. > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > Thanks > Molly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Thanks so much for your loving thoughts Rina. The nightmares are now long gone and my son has outlived the doctors' prognosis by 24 years - in fact he's outlived the doctor. ) I am so lucky that both my next door neighbours don't vaccinate either. Their husbands are the same as mine [and yours] but we just keep bending their ears because they DO take some of it in. The people in my husband's office no longer accept the free flu jabs, neither does his 85 year old father. I have heard another son explaining why he won't allow his baby to be vaccinated. A magic moment. I became ill recently and suddenly my husband realises just what I do! Woohoo! All the best, Maracuja From: kisses4chuly <kisses4chuly@...> Subject: Re: HIB Vaccinations Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2008, 7:41 AM Aja, Your post has actually made me cry only because I am one of those parents that will move heaven and earth to ensure my daughter has the best nutrition amongst anything else that she needs to be healthy. And if no vaxx is the way to go, so be it! I don't even think my husband realizes how much thought, sleepless nights, and research I do to keep my daughter healthy. Stopping all vaccinations was just one of them the rest is an everyday process and routine of healthiness. So God bless parents like yourself Aja and me! I am sorry you have those awful nightmares still. I can't begin to even understand how that might feel. Love, Rina > > From: Molly <lachlan-molly@ ...> > Subject: HIB > Vaccinations > Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 12:08 PM > > > > > > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts HIB. > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > Thanks > Molly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 I second that Rina. I think Aja's comment resonated with mostly everyone on this board. This is an every day education for me - i do not know everything there is to know but I can daily rely on the knowledge of all the wonderful mom/dads here and its so encouraging. And I so look forward to coming here to strengthen and re-validate (is that a word :?) my choices. I take the responsiblity that comes with not vaxing and eating well very seriously and that is why I daily make time to read, read, and read so that I am educated on behalf of my daughter. Noone else in this world (besides her daddy of course) would go through those lengths for her. I feel quite blessed to me in all of your company. On a side note, we took my daugther to our chiro last night for her routine 3-week visit. We've been taking her since she was born and naturally she would cry while being adjusted. Yesterday we noticed that she was smiling throughout the whole visit - even while she was being adjusted. I know its silly but it really, really validates how we are doing the right thing for her. She will soon understand and appreciate that this is the standard of health care her parents live by and hopefully that consistency will change her thinking and by extension the way she will also raise her my grandchildren. I can only hope. Peace and blessings to all of you taking part of this daily struggle. Ari Arianna Mojica- (UCC 1-207/1-103) ~~~ " All rights not demanded are presumed waived " . ~ Thurston HIB > Vaccinations > Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 12:08 PM > > > > > > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts HIB. > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > Thanks > Molly > ~~~~ " A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth. " - Albert Einstein, 1901 " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A. , National Institutes of Health www.vaclib.org www.909shot.com http://www.vacinfo.org/ http://forcedanarchy.blogspot.com/http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.htmhttp://w\ ww.vran.org/~~~~ " When we give government the power to make medical decisions for us, we, in essence, accept that the state owns our bodies " ~U.S. Representative Ron , MD. ~~~~ " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Really, thinking about all the stuff I've read about Hib, it may not even be a cause of disease at all. Since the majority of people carry Hib, sure it could be present when we get sick, but where is the proof that it was the cause. Especially when you start to see that the germ theory is bogus, a good explenation is that these bacteria are always with us and clean up the toxins we expel when we are sick, kind of like parasites. In this case, they are better left alone since they have a job to do. > > > > From: Molly <lachlan-molly@ ...> > > Subject: HIB > > Vaccinations > > Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 12:08 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I > > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts > HIB. > > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone > > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > > > Thanks > > Molly > > > > > ~~~~ " A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth. " - Albert Einstein, 1901 " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A. , National Institutes of Health > www.vaclib.org > www.909shot.com > http://www.vacinfo.org/ > http://forcedanarchy.blogspot.com/http://www.momtoanangel.net/ingred.h tmhttp://www.vran.org/~~~~ " When we give government the power to make medical decisions for us, we, in essence, accept that the state owns our bodies " ~U.S. Representative Ron , MD. ~~~~ " > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Yes, yes exactly, I'm sure you are right. It's like saying that because firemen are present, they must have caused the fire. The bugs are the decomposers, the clean up crew. If we are very toxaemic, then the endotoxins, the waste the bugs produce, are the danger. [Firemen try to dispose of contaminants in a safe manner, but if we become overwhelmed with environmental poisons, stress etc, the bugs get a foothold.] What were Pasteur's words - eventually? Something like, " The germ is nothing, the terrain is everything. " He must have known that Antoine Bechamp was right, yet he persisted with the ridiculous germ theory. Must have had a bit of gold invested in the theory, just like the drug companies today. See: The Blood and its Third Anatomical Element http://www.whale.to/v/bechamp_b.html Maracuja From: Vida Khan <vidamarino@...> Subject: Re: HIB Vaccinations Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2008, 8:43 AM Really, thinking about all the stuff I've read about Hib, it may not even be a cause of disease at all. Since the majority of people carry Hib, sure it could be present when we get sick, but where is the proof that it was the cause. Especially when you start to see that the germ theory is bogus, a good explenation is that these bacteria are always with us and clean up the toxins we expel when we are sick, kind of like parasites. In this case, they are better left alone since they have a job to do. > > > > From: Molly <lachlan-molly@ ...> > > Subject: HIB > > Vaccinations > > Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2008, 12:08 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I > > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts > HIB. > > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone > > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > > > Thanks > > Molly > > > > > ~~~~ " A foolish faith in authority is the worst enemy of truth. " - Albert Einstein, 1901 " The only safe vaccine is a vaccine that is never used " -- Dr. A. , National Institutes of Health > www.vaclib.org > www.909shot. com > http://www.vacinfo. org/ > http://forcedanarch y.blogspot. com/http: //www.momtoanang el.net/ingred. h tmhttp://www. vran.org/ ~~~~ " When we give government the power to make medical decisions for us, we, in essence, accept that the state owns our bodies " ~U.S. Representative Ron , MD. ~~~~ " > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Hi Molly! My brother was in the Coast Guard and vaccinated for everything under the sun. He contracted a very strange deadly virus (I believe it was a mutated viral disease specifically from his live-virus vaccines). The only thing that I can recommend that you do is read Neil Z 's books. Mr. puts every vaccine into perspective along with a foreword by neurosurgeon Dr. Blaylock in his latest book " Vaccine Safety Manual " . I went from vaccinating my infant with a few to nothing at all. They are all a joke in my eyes and definitely cause a lot of harm for many (my infant still suffered from high pitched screaming, convulsions, developmental delays, and regression in milestones). HIB was one of the vaccines I opted for and after reading up on it after the fact, I wish I never gave it to him. (he didn't receive the full series and never will). > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts HIB. > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > Thanks > Molly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 Wow Dawn, thanks for sharing. I am so sorry that happened to your son. You have helped me in making my decision against HIB. I appreciate your openess. Molly > > > > What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I > > waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts HIB. > > Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone > > dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > > > Thanks > > Molly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 At 08:08 PM 5/20/2008, you wrote: >What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one I >waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts HIB. >Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has anyone >dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > >Thanks >Molly I have never seen HIB meningitis in an unvaccinated child. Vaccines are what cause all of these illnesses in my opinion in most cases. See my webpages http://www.wellwithin1.com/hib.htm Sheri listowner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2008 Report Share Posted May 21, 2008 exactly! And we see new strains of bacteria causing meningitis after HIB vaccine. Vaccines do NOT give immunity. You inject chronic illness. If breastfed, HIB meningitis also rare See my webpages again Sheri At 09:16 PM 5/20/2008, you wrote: >Ok, the whole meningitis thing and issue with Hib is somewhat >confusing. There really is no proof that the vaccine works since the >previous number of Hib infections was just a guess (especially since >many people carry the bacteria with no harm,) and nobody is really >keeping complete track now. Hib can cause very different symptoms >and can only be seen if lab tests are requested, and since lab tests >are not requested for every child that walks in with a cold or ear >infection, then nobody really knows. From what lab tests are being >done, it seems there may be a decrease in Hib related diseases, >however, there is an increase in pneumococcal, meningococcal, and >other haemophilus types of bacteria. So really, overall, meningitis >or other illnesses caused by these bacteria, have not decreased at >all. Even if the vaccine works 100%, which certainly it does not, it >would only work against haemophilus type B strains, but still leave >your child more vulnerable to other strains. Since the vaccine, many >claim that the B strains went from being the most common strains to >probably the least common, so in this sense too, this vaccine would >be worthless now and definitely not worth the risks. >Plus, there is also evidence that suggests that Hib infections come >from the DPT vax. >Some of the risks of the Hib vaccine include Guillain-Barre' >syndrome, internal bleeding, type 1 diabetes, seizures, SIDS, and and >increase risk of Hib diseases for days following the vaccine, just to >name a few. >Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > Hi Molly, > > > Hib is the only one my 6 mo old has received, and most likely >will > > be the only one I will ever give him. He has handled them all >well. > > I decided on it only after thoroughly reading through safety info, > > efficacy and immune response data. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Geri in KY > > > > > > HIB > > > > > > > >What are the thoughts on the HIB Vaccine? This is the only one >I > > > >waiver on just because of what can happen if a child contracts > > HIB. > > > >Has anyone gotten this vaccine for their child? If not, has > > anyone > > > >dealt with HIB in an unvaccinated child? > > > > > > > >Thanks > > > >Molly > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geri L Sipe, M.S. > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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