Re: Is there any new news for Anthrax refusers?

[Guest guest]

You can starting seeing the folks at the ADC.

I had a one on one with my CC and told him before anything got started that i

didnt want him to waste time or training on someone who intended to refuse the

shots. I said Id deploy but he would have to get me a full vaccine waiver. i

explained that my long history of family mystery diseases meant i took no

chances with my health. of course i was prepared to go in depth w my months of

vaccine research to show i wasnt just " going off of stuff from the internet " .

he was a good guy though and i prayed pretty hard so it worked out wo the need

for any legal battles.

my friend took an alternate route: she took one shot, filed a vaers right away

and i believe got an exemption from further shots (filling out a vaers for each

and every vaccine you take is highly recommended as it shows your sensitivity to

them). that would requiring getting a single shot though which i would not

accept.

God bless you sir, youll get through it!

>

> When I violate the direct order to take the vaccine what can I do to prepare?

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Capt Dean USAF

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the support. It's good to hear both legal and just ways to avoid

this. Prayer probably made all the difference. At the last minute my prayers

were answered and I did not have to take them.

By faith alone

DN

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:36 AM, gypsyoak <gypsyoak@...> wrote:

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>

>

> You can starting seeing the folks at the ADC.

>

> I had a one on one with my CC and told him before anything got started that

> i didnt want him to waste time or training on someone who intended to refuse

> the shots. I said Id deploy but he would have to get me a full vaccine

> waiver. i explained that my long history of family mystery diseases meant i

> took no chances with my health. of course i was prepared to go in depth w my

> months of vaccine research to show i wasnt just " going off of stuff from the

> internet " .

>

> he was a good guy though and i prayed pretty hard so it worked out wo the

> need for any legal battles.

>

> my friend took an alternate route: she took one shot, filed a vaers right

> away and i believe got an exemption from further shots (filling out a vaers

> for each and every vaccine you take is highly recommended as it shows your

> sensitivity to them). that would requiring getting a single shot though

> which i would not accept.

>

> God bless you sir, youll get through it!

>

>

> >

> > When I violate the direct order to take the vaccine what can I do to

> prepare?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> >

> > Capt Dean USAF

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You were lucky. I recd my fifth on in jul09 n it destroyed my immune system , i

did the vaers n beeen to many bases plus university of michigan n they said that

it takes six years or more for this to run through my system. Im mentally

unstable i severally depressed n va cant help hi. Only.for.The pain n they cant

do anything else for me its hard i did get the line of duty for the anthrax but

i dont know what else to do im a lost member.

-- Original message --

Thanks for the support. It's good to hear both legal

and just ways to avoid

this. Prayer probably made all the difference. At the last minute my prayers

were answered and I did not have to take them.

By faith alone

DN

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:36 AM, gypsyoak >gypsyoak@...< wrote:

< **

<

<

< You can starting seeing the folks at the ADC.

<

< I had a one on one with my CC and told him before anything got started that

< i didnt want him to waste time or training on someone who intended to refuse

< the shots. I said Id deploy but he would have to get me a full vaccine

< waiver. i explained that my long history of family mystery diseases meant i

< took no chances with my health. of course i was prepared to go in depth w my

< months of vaccine research to show i wasnt just & quot;going off of stuff from

the

< internet & quot;.

<

< he was a good guy though and i prayed pretty hard so it worked out wo the

< need for any legal battles.

<

< my friend took an alternate route: she took one shot, filed a vaers right

< away and i believe got an exemption from further shots (filling out a vaers

< for each and every vaccine you take is highly recommended as it shows your

< sensitivity to them). that would requiring getting a single shot though

< which i would not accept.

<

< God bless you sir, youll get through it!

<

<

< <

< < When I violate the direct order to take the vaccine what can I do to

< prepare?

< <

< < Respectfully,

< <

< < Capt Dean USAF

< <

<

<

<

[Guest guest]

DN, maybe you need to see a different VA Counselor if you are not getting any

help. Also, it may help if you take someone with you who can listen with a

different mindset. You should not be experiences these problems with VA since

you have your line of duty. What percentage of disability did you get? What

state are you living in? Friend took six years and ended up getting six figures

for her claim which doesn't help her health, but she has had nothing to say but

good things about VA. I didn't have to take the vaccine, but I too have had no

problem with VA.

>

> You were lucky. I recd my fifth on in jul09 n it destroyed my immune system ,

i did the vaers n beeen to many bases plus university of michigan n they said

that it takes six years or more for this to run through my system. Im mentally

unstable i severally depressed n va cant help hi. Only.for.The pain n they cant

do anything else for me its hard i did get the line of duty for the anthrax but

i dont know what else to do im a lost

[Guest guest]

I was in the army reserve in 2004, and refused. Was told at the time I was

the only army reserve officer to refuse. Had to write letter of resignation

in lieu of adverse action, and oh, by-the-way, leave out the part of

refusing the anthrax vaccine. 1 year later I received my d/c under other

than honorable conditions. Who cares? The army's loss. I was a 1LT at the

time, they could have, should have, deployed me, I was already slotted for

CPT, whether or not I got promoted I didn't care, they should have put a LOR

(letter of reprimand) in my file, and we all move on. I only had 5.5 years

left to retirement, and if I retired as a 1LT, I would have been fine with

that. Meanwhile, the army lost a dual trained (2 MOS's) army officer who was

prior enlisted, and a great asset. The only thing I wanted was my health to

stay the crappy way it was (I suffer from a lot of migraines and didn't need

anything to exacerbate the situation).

I choose my health. There are a lot of people out there who don't have

military retirements. I don't believe these discharges follow you around

like they make it out to be. But that's my opinion. Although in the

military, you still have a choice. You may not like your choices, but you

have a choice.

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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Is there any new news for Anthrax

refusers?

You were lucky. I recd my fifth on in jul09 n it destroyed my immune system

, i did the vaers n beeen to many bases plus university of michigan n they

said that it takes six years or more for this to run through my system. Im

mentally unstable i severally depressed n va cant help hi. Only.for.The pain

n they cant do anything else for me its hard i did get the line of duty for

the anthrax but i dont know what else to do im a lost member.

-- Original message --

Thanks for the support. It's good to hear both legal and just ways to avoid

this. Prayer probably made all the difference. At the last minute my prayers

were answered and I did not have to take them.

By faith alone

DN

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 6:36 AM, gypsyoak >gypsyoak@...

<mailto:gypsyoak%40> < wrote:

< **

<

<

< You can starting seeing the folks at the ADC.

<

< I had a one on one with my CC and told him before anything got started

that

< i didnt want him to waste time or training on someone who intended to

refuse

< the shots. I said Id deploy but he would have to get me a full vaccine

< waiver. i explained that my long history of family mystery diseases meant

i

< took no chances with my health. of course i was prepared to go in depth w

my

< months of vaccine research to show i wasnt just & quot;going off of stuff

from the

< internet & quot;.

<

< he was a good guy though and i prayed pretty hard so it worked out wo the

< need for any legal battles.

<

< my friend took an alternate route: she took one shot, filed a vaers right

< away and i believe got an exemption from further shots (filling out a

vaers

< for each and every vaccine you take is highly recommended as it shows your

< sensitivity to them). that would requiring getting a single shot though

< which i would not accept.

<

< God bless you sir, youll get through it!

<

<

< <

< < When I violate the direct order to take the vaccine what can I do to

< prepare?

< <

< < Respectfully,

< <

< < Capt Dean USAF

< <

<

<

<