Re: Colo. mother waging war on military's anthrax shot

[Guest guest]

Several researchers, including Asa, suspect the Department of Defense

added squalene in an experiment to see whether more anthrax vaccine could

be given in a shorter period of time - protecting soldiers sooner for

battlefield duty.

Re the clip above- has anyone researched whether squalene is present in any

other vaccines besides the anthrax?

Colo. mother waging war on military's anthrax shot

>

> This is Lori, that contacted me LONG ago in March of 1998.........when she

> found my webpage...........

> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/anthrax.htm

>

> She did an incredible job!

> Sheri

>

>

> http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2535720,00.html

>

> Article Published: Monday, November 15, 2004

> Colo. mother waging war on military's anthrax shot

>

> By Aguilera

> Denver Post Staff Writer

>

> When the news she had waited years to hear finally arrived, Lori

> Greenleaf was strangely unmoved.

>

> A federal judge had ordered the military to stop forcing soldiers to

> be injected with an anthrax vaccine. But while the court had essentially

> said last month that Greenleaf was right about the vaccine's problems, she

> didn't feel like a winner.

>

> " It's bittersweet because I don't think it'll hold, " said the woman

> described in a recent book as the " Dear Abby of Anthrax Vaccine. " " And all

> the people they hurt already don't get any restitution. I surely do hope

> the judge's order stands, but we've had so many disappointments you hate

to

> get your hopes up. "

>

> Greenleaf, 46, of on first took issue with the anthrax

> vaccination program five years ago when her son became one of the first

> sailors to receive it.

>

> She started asking questions. Before long, Greenleaf had become a

> clearinghouse on the anthrax vaccine for service members around the world.

>

> At one point she was in contact with more than 7,000 service members

> via e- mail and telephone.

>

> She served as their counselor and confidante. She fretted for them

> when they were punished or court-martialed for refusing the vaccine. She

> visited them in hospitals when they accepted the injection and became ill.

>

> Although the Pentagon insists the vaccine is safe and it has been

> approved by the Food and Drug Administration, doctors have documented

cases

> of vaccine- related autoimmune diseases, such as lupus, multiple sclerosis

> and rheumatoid arthritis.

>

> Since March 1998, the military has injected more than 5 million

doses

> into 1.3 million people. The vaccine is given in a six-shot series over 18

> months. More than 3,000 adverse reactions to the vaccine have been

> reported, and at least half a dozen deaths have been linked to the

vaccine,

> according to anti-vaccine advocates and their attorneys.

>

> Nearly 600 people have refused the vaccine, according to estimates.

> The Defense Department reports that before Aug. 15, 2000, 441 refusers

were

> given nonjudiciary discipline such as being docked in pay, reduced in rank

> or given restriction. Others were given a less-than-honorable discharge.

> Since then 51 have been court-martialed for refusing.

>

> Many of them have been in touch with Greenleaf. From a single

desktop

> computer in her on home, she has done years of research, eventually

> connecting with independent doctors who she learned were doing their own

> research on the vaccine.

>

> Doctors at Tulane Medical School had been testing the blood of

> service members since 1994 and finding antibodies to fight an oil called

> squalene in many of those they tested. They had also tested service

> members' blood before and after the vaccination and found they developed

> the antibodies after injection.

>

> In 2000, Dr. Pam Asa found squalene antibodies in veterans who were

> given certain lots of the vaccine, including Greenleaf's son. The FDA

> backed up her findings with its own tests of five of the six lots.

>

> Scientists say squalene has been known to cause problems for decades

> in animals. Squalene is a natural oil in and on humans, but when injected,

> it triggers an autoimmune reaction that then looks to expel all squalene

> from the body, Asa said.

>

> Just how the squalene could have gotten into the anthrax vaccine is

> the source of contention between the scientists and the Pentagon.

>

> Several researchers, including Asa, suspect the Department of

Defense

> added squalene in an experiment to see whether more anthrax vaccine could

> be given in a shorter period of time - protecting soldiers sooner for

> battlefield duty.

>

> The Department of Defense denies adding squalene to anthrax vaccines

> or conducting any experiments on members of the armed forces. They suspect

> squalene might have gotten into certain batches of the vaccine because of

> fingerprints left on lab equipment.

>

> Asa doesn't buy it.

>

> " If you know the dangers and hazards of this stuff in people and how

> it causes strokes and cardiac anomalies and how it affects memory and

> causes seizure disorders, you don't do this to people going into combat, "

> said Asa, an immunlogist and visiting professor at Tulane Medical School.

>

> On Oct. 27, a lawsuit filed by six service members and civilians

> against the Department of Defense ended when U.S. District Judge Emmet

> Sullivan declared that the government had failed to properly license the

> vaccine and ordered the military to discontinue the forced injection into

> soldiers without informed consent or a presidential waiver. The Pentagon

is

> expected to appeal.

>

> Also last month, one of the first books about the controversy was

> published. " Vaccine A, " by former NBC and Fox News correspondent

> Matsumoto, outlines the fight over the vaccine, explains the medical

> concerns and conveys the difficulty of stopping the program. He calls

> Greenleaf the " Dear Abby of Anthrax. "

>

> " Lori is an unsung hero; she did an extraordinary service for a lot

> of people, " Matsumoto said. " She showed a lot courage and toughness; she

> would not back off. Don't make Mom mad, that is the message. "

>

> The activism displayed by Greenleaf brought her much unwanted

> attention from the Department of Defense. She was kicked out of Fort

Carson

> for passing out fliers and criticized by Army officials after she

testified

> before Congress.

>

> She didn't care, as long as people were getting the message.

>

> And they were. Everywhere, soldiers, sailors and pilots were passing

> her e-mail address to one another. They shared packets of information she

> sent, all paid for out of her own pocket.

>

> " I don't have a problem with the vaccine; it's the experimenting

that

> I have an issue with, " Greenleaf said. " When it comes to jeopardizing

> anybody's health, I think they should have a choice. They shouldn't be

> experimenting without informed consent. "

>

> Retired Army Chaplain Dave Hodge of Carlsbad, N.M., came down with

> rash, fatigue, joint aches and other symptoms of lupus after he was

> injected with anthrax vaccine in the late 1990s. His blood tested positive

> for squalene antibodies, and he had colorectal cancer.

>

> " Knowing that they are still doing it makes me angry because they

> know what it's doing, " he said. " Lori has been a tireless proponent for

us;

> there have been times she's taken the brunt of people telling her she was

> going up the wrong tree, and she's taken the abuse and hung in there. "

>

> Collect calls from as far away as Japan and at all times of the day

> from concerned service members and their families kept her house hopping.

> She had to hire two helpers to run her day care so she could focus

> full-time on the fight against the vaccine.

>

> She even hosted a sailor who went AWOL over the vaccine and talked

> him into going back and dealing with the military.

>

> " It's unfortunate what they do to our sons and daughters when they

> sign on the dotted line, " Greenleaf said. " They are owned; they have no

say. "

>

> Col. Grabenstein, deputy director of the Army's Military

Vaccine

> Agency, calls Matsumoto's book a lie and the debate exaggerated concern.

>

> " We don't conduct illegal experiments on the troops; we use only

> licensed vaccines, " he said from Breckenridge while on vacation.

>

> He dismisses Asa's and the FDA's findings of squalene in the lots as

> traces left by fingerprints. Squalene, also found in the liver, is a

> precursor to cholesterol.

>

> " We believe the most likely explanation for those very small amounts

> that were found was incomplete washing of the lab glassware, " Grabenstein

> said. " We don't believe there was squalene in the lots; we believe the

> tester left a little bit of his own fingerprints behind. "

>

> Asa counters that the fingerprint had 13 other fatty acids besides

> squalene and none showed up in the vaccine. Naked hands do not touch any

of

> the vials, vaccine or tubes during manufacturing or chemical analysis, she

> said.

>

> " The judge's order will save lives, " Asa said. " This whole thing

> needs to be investigated. This is awful; we don't know how many people

have

> received this adjuvant. "

>

> The Pentagon will do what it can to resume the vaccinations,

> Grabenstein said about the judge's order.

>

> " With a licensed drug, DOD has the prerogative to require

> vaccinations of the troops, and we do that because our people fight as

> teams and an individual does not have the right to jeopardize his

> teammates, " he said.

>

> For now, members of the armed forces are not required to get the

> vaccine. Still, it's a hollow - and, Greenleaf fears, temporary - victory

> for soldiers who already have been waylaid by the vaccine.

>

> " The government will never admit to any of it. I don't think they'll

> take care of the people who are sick, " Greenleaf said. " I hope I'm wrong,

> but I'm basing this on how they've dealt with Vietnam vets and Agent

Orange

> guys and the Gulf War vets who are sick. "

> --------------------------------------------------------

> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

> vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

> Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

>

> ******

> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

information

> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 10:19 AM 11/15/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>

> Several researchers, including Asa, suspect the Department of Defense

>added squalene in an experiment to see whether more anthrax vaccine could

>be given in a shorter period of time - protecting soldiers sooner for

>battlefield duty.

>

>Re the clip above- has anyone researched whether squalene is present in any

>other vaccines besides the anthrax?

It is experimental and used in some animal vaccines with terrible reactions.

I have suspected it with the hep b, but I don't think anyone has.

Also squalene is used in experimental AIDS vaccines, I think, and so there

is some concern among some of us that actually what these service people

have been getting are AIDS vaccines). But its a leap.

So, who knows. Can't get any anthrax vax to test on our own as SO

CONTROLLED> But someone should be able to test the others.

Aluminum is the adjuvant that is usually used in all the other

vaccines............and in anthrax vax it appears squalene was used as the

adjuvant.

I will write Dawn Winkler who is testing vaccines for mercury. Maybe this

could be included.

Sheri

>

> Colo. mother waging war on military's anthrax shot

>

>

>>

>> This is Lori, that contacted me LONG ago in March of 1998.........when she

>> found my webpage...........

>> http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/anthrax.htm

>>

>> She did an incredible job!

>> Sheri

>>

>>

>> http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~53~2535720,00.html

>>

>> Article Published: Monday, November 15, 2004

>> Colo. mother waging war on military's anthrax shot

>>

>> By Aguilera

>> Denver Post Staff Writer

>>

>> When the news she had waited years to hear finally arrived, Lori

>> Greenleaf was strangely unmoved.

>>

>> A federal judge had ordered the military to stop forcing soldiers to

>> be injected with an anthrax vaccine. But while the court had essentially

>> said last month that Greenleaf was right about the vaccine's problems, she

>> didn't feel like a winner.

>>

>> " It's bittersweet because I don't think it'll hold, " said the woman

>> described in a recent book as the " Dear Abby of Anthrax Vaccine. " " And all

>> the people they hurt already don't get any restitution. I surely do hope

>> the judge's order stands, but we've had so many disappointments you hate

>to

>> get your hopes up. "

>>

>> Greenleaf, 46, of on first took issue with the anthrax

>> vaccination program five years ago when her son became one of the first

>> sailors to receive it.

>>

>> She started asking questions. Before long, Greenleaf had become a

>> clearinghouse on the anthrax vaccine for service members around the world.

>>

>> At one point she was in contact with more than 7,000 service members

>> via e- mail and telephone.

>>

>> She served as their counselor and confidante. She fretted for them

>> when they were punished or court-martialed for refusing the vaccine. She

>> visited them in hospitals when they accepted the injection and became ill.

>>

>> Although the Pentagon insists the vaccine is safe and it has been

>> approved by the Food and Drug Administration, doctors have documented

>cases

>> of vaccine- related autoimmune diseases, such as lupus, multiple sclerosis

>> and rheumatoid arthritis.

>>

>> Since March 1998, the military has injected more than 5 million

>doses

>> into 1.3 million people. The vaccine is given in a six-shot series over 18

>> months. More than 3,000 adverse reactions to the vaccine have been

>> reported, and at least half a dozen deaths have been linked to the

>vaccine,

>> according to anti-vaccine advocates and their attorneys.

>>

>> Nearly 600 people have refused the vaccine, according to estimates.

>> The Defense Department reports that before Aug. 15, 2000, 441 refusers

>were

>> given nonjudiciary discipline such as being docked in pay, reduced in rank

>> or given restriction. Others were given a less-than-honorable discharge.

>> Since then 51 have been court-martialed for refusing.

>>

>> Many of them have been in touch with Greenleaf. From a single

>desktop

>> computer in her on home, she has done years of research, eventually

>> connecting with independent doctors who she learned were doing their own

>> research on the vaccine.

>>

>> Doctors at Tulane Medical School had been testing the blood of

>> service members since 1994 and finding antibodies to fight an oil called

>> squalene in many of those they tested. They had also tested service

>> members' blood before and after the vaccination and found they developed

>> the antibodies after injection.

>>

>> In 2000, Dr. Pam Asa found squalene antibodies in veterans who were

>> given certain lots of the vaccine, including Greenleaf's son. The FDA

>> backed up her findings with its own tests of five of the six lots.

>>

>> Scientists say squalene has been known to cause problems for decades

>> in animals. Squalene is a natural oil in and on humans, but when injected,

>> it triggers an autoimmune reaction that then looks to expel all squalene

>> from the body, Asa said.

>>

>> Just how the squalene could have gotten into the anthrax vaccine is

>> the source of contention between the scientists and the Pentagon.

>>

>> Several researchers, including Asa, suspect the Department of

>Defense

>> added squalene in an experiment to see whether more anthrax vaccine could

>> be given in a shorter period of time - protecting soldiers sooner for

>> battlefield duty.

>>

>> The Department of Defense denies adding squalene to anthrax vaccines

>> or conducting any experiments on members of the armed forces. They suspect

>> squalene might have gotten into certain batches of the vaccine because of

>> fingerprints left on lab equipment.

>>

>> Asa doesn't buy it.

>>

>> " If you know the dangers and hazards of this stuff in people and how

>> it causes strokes and cardiac anomalies and how it affects memory and

>> causes seizure disorders, you don't do this to people going into combat, "

>> said Asa, an immunlogist and visiting professor at Tulane Medical School.

>>

>> On Oct. 27, a lawsuit filed by six service members and civilians

>> against the Department of Defense ended when U.S. District Judge Emmet

>> Sullivan declared that the government had failed to properly license the

>> vaccine and ordered the military to discontinue the forced injection into

>> soldiers without informed consent or a presidential waiver. The Pentagon

>is

>> expected to appeal.

>>

>> Also last month, one of the first books about the controversy was

>> published. " Vaccine A, " by former NBC and Fox News correspondent

>> Matsumoto, outlines the fight over the vaccine, explains the medical

>> concerns and conveys the difficulty of stopping the program. He calls

>> Greenleaf the " Dear Abby of Anthrax. "

>>

>> " Lori is an unsung hero; she did an extraordinary service for a lot

>> of people, " Matsumoto said. " She showed a lot courage and toughness; she

>> would not back off. Don't make Mom mad, that is the message. "

>>

>> The activism displayed by Greenleaf brought her much unwanted

>> attention from the Department of Defense. She was kicked out of Fort

>Carson

>> for passing out fliers and criticized by Army officials after she

>testified

>> before Congress.

>>

>> She didn't care, as long as people were getting the message.

>>

>> And they were. Everywhere, soldiers, sailors and pilots were passing

>> her e-mail address to one another. They shared packets of information she

>> sent, all paid for out of her own pocket.

>>

>> " I don't have a problem with the vaccine; it's the experimenting

>that

>> I have an issue with, " Greenleaf said. " When it comes to jeopardizing

>> anybody's health, I think they should have a choice. They shouldn't be

>> experimenting without informed consent. "

>>

>> Retired Army Chaplain Dave Hodge of Carlsbad, N.M., came down with

>> rash, fatigue, joint aches and other symptoms of lupus after he was

>> injected with anthrax vaccine in the late 1990s. His blood tested positive

>> for squalene antibodies, and he had colorectal cancer.

>>

>> " Knowing that they are still doing it makes me angry because they

>> know what it's doing, " he said. " Lori has been a tireless proponent for

>us;

>> there have been times she's taken the brunt of people telling her she was

>> going up the wrong tree, and she's taken the abuse and hung in there. "

>>

>> Collect calls from as far away as Japan and at all times of the day

>> from concerned service members and their families kept her house hopping.

>> She had to hire two helpers to run her day care so she could focus

>> full-time on the fight against the vaccine.

>>

>> She even hosted a sailor who went AWOL over the vaccine and talked

>> him into going back and dealing with the military.

>>

>> " It's unfortunate what they do to our sons and daughters when they

>> sign on the dotted line, " Greenleaf said. " They are owned; they have no

>say. "

>>

>> Col. Grabenstein, deputy director of the Army's Military

>Vaccine

>> Agency, calls Matsumoto's book a lie and the debate exaggerated concern.

>>

>> " We don't conduct illegal experiments on the troops; we use only

>> licensed vaccines, " he said from Breckenridge while on vacation.

>>

>> He dismisses Asa's and the FDA's findings of squalene in the lots as

>> traces left by fingerprints. Squalene, also found in the liver, is a

>> precursor to cholesterol.

>>

>> " We believe the most likely explanation for those very small amounts

>> that were found was incomplete washing of the lab glassware, " Grabenstein

>> said. " We don't believe there was squalene in the lots; we believe the

>> tester left a little bit of his own fingerprints behind. "

>>

>> Asa counters that the fingerprint had 13 other fatty acids besides

>> squalene and none showed up in the vaccine. Naked hands do not touch any

>of

>> the vials, vaccine or tubes during manufacturing or chemical analysis, she

>> said.

>>

>> " The judge's order will save lives, " Asa said. " This whole thing

>> needs to be investigated. This is awful; we don't know how many people

>have

>> received this adjuvant. "

>>

>> The Pentagon will do what it can to resume the vaccinations,

>> Grabenstein said about the judge's order.

>>

>> " With a licensed drug, DOD has the prerogative to require

>> vaccinations of the troops, and we do that because our people fight as

>> teams and an individual does not have the right to jeopardize his

>> teammates, " he said.

>>

>> For now, members of the armed forces are not required to get the

>> vaccine. Still, it's a hollow - and, Greenleaf fears, temporary - victory

>> for soldiers who already have been waylaid by the vaccine.

>>

>> " The government will never admit to any of it. I don't think they'll

>> take care of the people who are sick, " Greenleaf said. " I hope I'm wrong,

>> but I'm basing this on how they've dealt with Vietnam vets and Agent

>Orange

>> guys and the Gulf War vets who are sick. "

>> --------------------------------------------------------

>> Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath

>> Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

>> $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

>> vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

>> (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

>> Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>> Vaccine Dangers On-Line course -

>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm

>> Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

>> ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

>> OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

>>

>> ******

>> " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

>> Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

>> knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy

>information

>> and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/2004 7:32:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

randice@... writes:

" It's bittersweet because I don't think it'll hold, "

Lori,

I had the same reaction as you did to the news myself here in New York, but

you fought a good fight; you kept the faith. My oldest son, a US Army Green

Beret, has not yet had to take the shot, but will be going overseas soon. He

has an enlarged heart so I am hoping they do not force the issue. Of

course, now we have smallpox. Is there no end?!

It was a pleasure to serve along side you in the " Mothers Against Anthrax "

campaign. The battle has been won but I don't believe the war is over.

Thanks Lori.

, New York

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

So good to hear from you!! I lost all my email addresses, etc. a few years

ago when my computer crashed. I think about you often and wonder about your

boys.

I have been working quietly on the issue alongside Matsumoto and Pam

Asa, not very active on the list. I work full time now, just got

to be too much!!

now has two beautiful, healthy children who I just adore. I am very

blessed, they live about 2 miles from me, so they are very spoiled by

grandma!!

is a Correctional Officer at a Juvenile Detention Center, just loves

his work. I couldn't use his name in the article for obvious reasons.

Please keep in touch, hope you and your family are well.

Your friend,

Lori :-)

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