Guest guest Posted June 11, 1999 Report Share Posted June 11, 1999 I am afraid I have no advice for this poor woman, I myself am at a loss of what to do. Can anyone help her? This whole thing is taking a turn for the worse all the way around. Dear Deanna, the notice we got that Lucas' e-mail privileges had been revoked was not signed so allthough we know it was from him, someone may have been standing over him or a friend may have done it for him. The captain is hunting for the friend who has been helping lucas. Lord, I feel like he is a prisoner of war and being slowly mentally and physically abused. He pulled a 38 hour shift, two hours sleep and collapsed. They are altering his records and pulling his list of accomplishments. Also trying to say he has never been to sea yet he has been shipping out for over a year. I am beginning to even more fear for his safety and am worried that his captain may not be mentally competent. Lucas had already been punished for his refusal to take the vaccine. This is vindictive now. So far no help from our congressmen . Any ideas. We are feeling desperate. Till the next time. Wanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 I wonder if a journalist such as Bob Greene or Rod H. would approach the topic of the inequities of the punishment being given out to these young men and women for refusing the vaccine. What is being reported about Lucas Westfall's punishment, and what Austin and the other Marines are going through, all for the same " offense " shows just how inconsistent and petty the military is. Would some publicity about this help or hinder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 1. Keep hammering away at your congressman to take immediate action on this matter. 2. Contact that fleet's headquarters and let them know what is going on. 3. Contact every media source that you can on the matter. 4. Try to get ahold of Lucas's records on shore. They usually have copies of personal records in computers and in the fleets headquarters. If so, then it should be an easy matter to find out if any of his records were altered illegally. If they are even changing the fact that he was on a ship, he should get signed statements from any of his supporters on the ship that he was indeed on the ship. You may need a signed authorization from Lucas for this however. Any servicemember can obtain a copy of their 201 file. Also ask the Congressman to contact the fleet and verify that Lucas is indeed on the ship. 5. Contact one of the Inspector General (IG) offices (or equivalent in the Navy) and get them to investigate this matter. If the Captain is illegally altering his record this might also be a criminal matter for the Navy to investigate. But if your congressman is worth anything, he should be able to handle that. If not, then you need to let the press know that your congressman isn't helping you. 6. Hold a press conferance and provide any letters and documents recieved so far to the Press. Put or have someone put together a good packet of information on the Anthrax vaccine that can also be given to the press. The website: http://www.dallasnw.quik.com/cyberella/ should have all the information you need to put together a info packet. Also look into the Anthrax-No archives for additional info. 7. Contact your local military legal office if there is one in your area. 8. Try to obtain the email address's of the captain and others on the ship so you can get as much information as possible on what is going on or communicate with the Captain directly. Dean1823@... wrote: > > From: Dean1823@... > > I am afraid I have no advice for this poor woman, I myself am at a loss of > what to do. > Can anyone help her? This whole thing is taking a turn for the worse all the > way around. > > Dear Deanna, the notice we got that Lucas' e-mail privileges had been > revoked was not signed so allthough we know it was from him, someone may > have been standing over him or a friend may have done it for him. The > captain is hunting for the friend who has been helping lucas. Lord, I > feel like he is a prisoner of war and being slowly mentally and > physically abused. He pulled a 38 hour shift, two hours sleep and > collapsed. They are altering his records and pulling his list of > accomplishments. Also trying to say he has never been to sea yet he has > been shipping out for over a year. I am beginning to even more fear for > his safety and am worried that his captain may not be mentally competent. > Lucas had already been punished for his refusal to take the vaccine. This > is vindictive now. So far no help from our congressmen . Any ideas. We > are feeling desperate. Till the next time. Wanda > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 Another item of interest.... I received an e-mail from a service member who is now civilian, (name is not being identified, as I did not ask them first if it was ok) that was out processed for the refusal of the vaccine 1) under general, and 2) quietly. Apparently, the unit did not want anyone to know what the reasons were as to " not cause a stir " . Nonetheless, interesting.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 Don't know but I am sending a info to anyone I can thank of. If you have any other suggestions let me know. I don't know who Mr. Greene is do you have an email for him? Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 1999 Report Share Posted June 12, 1999 Deanna: All I have right now is that list that you sent of the Reps and Senators. I was assuming that that was all that it was covering, as I didn't go through page by page to see who it was all covering. If you know of anyone else that might hold an interest, or be in a position to do something other than the Government elect, please, feel free to send me their emails. I spoke with Tom earlier, he is aware of my plan, and just asks that I wait until later tomorrow, where he states he will have it further updated. At that time (probably Monday), his information paper will start to go flying. By the way Tom, as I see you online now, in case I never told you, that was an awesome paper. Good job on inserting the URL's. Randi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 1999 Report Share Posted June 13, 1999 Deanna, Bob Greene is a regular, popular columnist for the Chicago Tribune. He is also an author of a number of books. He has taken up some causes for people in the past, through his column. I emailed him months ago, but got no response on this anthrax issue. I have sent him another today; perhaps if he hears from a number of us, he will take up our cause to help our kids in the military. His email address is BGreene@.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 If Lucas hasn't " requested mast " ....he needs to. This is his legal right and he cannot be ignored. If he is on ship there might be a problem with how high up the chain of command he can go. He can start by requesting mast to his commanders commanding officer and if not satisfied with the results he can go on up the chain until he is satisfied. Lucas Westfall > From: Dean1823@... > > I am afraid I have no advice for this poor woman, I myself am at a loss of > what to do. > Can anyone help her? This whole thing is taking a turn for the worse all the > way around. > > > Dear Deanna, the notice we got that Lucas' e-mail privileges had been > revoked was not signed so allthough we know it was from him, someone may > have been standing over him or a friend may have done it for him. The > captain is hunting for the friend who has been helping lucas. Lord, I > feel like he is a prisoner of war and being slowly mentally and > physically abused. He pulled a 38 hour shift, two hours sleep and > collapsed. They are altering his records and pulling his list of > accomplishments. Also trying to say he has never been to sea yet he has > been shipping out for over a year. I am beginning to even more fear for > his safety and am worried that his captain may not be mentally competent. > Lucas had already been punished for his refusal to take the vaccine. This > is vindictive now. So far no help from our congressmen . Any ideas. We > are feeling desperate. Till the next time. Wanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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