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In a message dated 02/12/2000 7:51:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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<< I also hope to one day go to a taping of the videos. I don't know if I

will

ever reach that goal, as I am extremely camera-shy and know I'm going to

freak just having to do anything in front of one. I also am afraid I will

get too red-faced and hot under the lights and look like a complete mess.

Maybe there will be a way to just go and watch without participating by the

time I get up enough nerve, LOL. >>

Know what Rory....

I may wind up watching with ya!!!

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who happens to be camera shy too

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horsemom-@... wrote:

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> In a message dated 02/12/2000 7:51:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> LDYRORY@... writes:

>

> << I also hope to one day go to a taping of the videos. I don't know

if I

> will

> ever reach that goal, as I am extremely camera-shy and know I'm

going to

> freak just having to do anything in front of one. I also am afraid

I will

> get too red-faced and hot under the lights and look like a complete

mess.

> Maybe there will be a way to just go and watch without participating

by the

> time I get up enough nerve, LOL. >>

>

> Know what Rory....

> I may wind up watching with ya!!!

>

> Barb

> who happens to be camera shy too

No watching allowed....you've just got to get in there and do it. I'm

telling you once you get in a room with there's no watching

involved. You will want to be right in there doing it with him. And

you really do forget all about the cameras once you start working out.

I had no idea the camera was on me as much as it was. I say Go For It

to both of you!

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In a message dated 2/12/00 6:51:16 PM Central Standard Time, LDYRORY@...

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<<

I also hope to one day go to a taping of the videos. I don't know if I will

ever reach that goal, as I am extremely camera-shy and know I'm going to

freak just having to do anything in front of one. I also am afraid I will

get too red-faced and hot under the lights and look like a complete mess.

Maybe there will be a way to just go and watch without participating by the

time I get up enough nerve, LOL.

Well, I'm off to go work out. Everyone have a good day.

~~Rory~~

>>

Rory, I'm going to the tapings and I'm sure I wont be pretty. But you know

what how many people are going to say hey...I know her she looks awful. ITs

just a great oppurtunity to get to workout with . Maybe you should

reward yourself with something like...okay 6 months of this and then I'm

going to LA. ITs a geat motivator.

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In a message dated 28-Apr-00 23:17:29 Eastern Daylight Time,

ksewright@... writes:

<< And yes, I agree, I

am lucky to have as a success coach.

>>

{{{hugs}}}}

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Just wanted to thank you for the big welcome. My husband is in the Army and

that's why we're in ND. My sister lives in Rexford (just outside Albany).

nne, We'll have to get together! My brother lives in Ithaca and my

parents are still in Rome. I may be home this summer (maybe for good!) I do

CP but am anxious to try some HP (i'm SO impatient) My 10 y.o. dd makes M & P

w/ toys inside, body glitter, lip balm and all the other fun stuff girls

like. We do the shows together and have a blast. I'm planning my first

home show for 11 May, very nervous. Anyone do one yet? Any tips? Bye for

now.

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Thank you to everyone for your detailed welcoming. I appreciate the time you

all spent in writing me. Sorry I'm not responding to each of you individually.

I can't find the time to keep up with all the e-mail and I'm trying to spend a

lot of time researching.

I do have one question right now: What are the most serious diseases to be

concerned about Hunter contracting if he were not vaccinated??? And, does

anyone know what the liklihood is of him contracting the disease if we don't

vaccinate. This is what I'm trying to determine right now.

Thanks again for the welcome and info.

Adrienne (Mom to Hunter 8/2/01)

Re: Welcome to Vaccinations

> Hi all,

>

> My name is Adrienne Olson, new mom to Hunter, born 8/2/01. We live

in

> Sherman Oaks, CA. I was referred to this group from AP and WOH

Moms

> Group, as a result of my questions about vaccinations. My husband

and I

> have struggled with whether or not to vaccinate Hunter since before

he was

> born. We tried to research the topic a little, but became

overwhelmed. We

> ended up deciding to vaccinate 2 shots every two months, so Hunter

has had 4

> shots all together (Polio, DTaP, Hib/Hep B & Pneumococcal).

>

> Now that I started getting more information and finding

> support from my AP group, I'm leaning towards not vaccinating

anymore or at

> least minimizing the shots to only those diseases which really pose

a

> serious risk.

> I'm pretty freaked out about my son's pediatrician and the fact

that she

> told us that none of the shots he was getting have the thermosal

when my AP

> group told me that the DTaP definitely still has it. So, I was

trusting her

> and I feel like an idiot and I'm nervous about what I've already

put into my

> son's body which may cause problems for him.

> I need assistance in making future decisions, since I can't trust

the Dr.,

> and I'm hoping this group will

> help.

>

> Thanks, Adrienne

Hi Adrienne,

I'm Sue, living in the UK, mum to Robyn who is four years old,

unvaccinated and still breastfeeding. I am an

aromatherapist/reflexologist and voluntary breastfeeding counsellor

and I have as little to do with doctors as I possibly can! We use

homoeopathy, herbal medicine and other natural remedies for our

health, although I am pleased to say that at the ripe old age of

four, Robyn has *never* received *any* medication (allopathic). Not

an antibiotic, not a painkiller, nothing. And that's the way I hope

it will stay.

We're fortunate in the UK that the government - at present - allows

us the " freedom " to choose on the vaccination issue, but I don't see

that being the case for very much longer. More and more pressure is

being put on parents to " conform " and " do their social duty " by

vaccinating. Especially as vaccination rates are dropping in this

country, particularly with MMR. The doctors are losing out

financially! They are now trialling chickenpox vaccine in this

country with the dire warnings that this is a disease with deadly

consequences. It kills more people than mumps, measles, Hib, and

heaven knows what put together. About 24 people a year, I think they

said. Hmmm. Very convincing. So we must vaccinate...!! And at

what cost to our children?

I am an older first time mum and both my dh and I had *all* the

childhood illnesses. None of them hurt either of us. We have

natural immunity to them for the rest of our lives. Not some

precarious and questionable immunity " conferred " by a drug. I cannot

understand the current-day medical profession's hysteria with

measles, mumps, rubella and now chickenpox. They've gone crazy - or

the drug companies have some very good subliminal marketing going on

out there! I am personally convinced that these childhood ailments

(I don't even like calling them diseases) protect against other

nastier chronic illnesses in later life and there is no way my

daughter is going to get cancer or asthma rather than measles! I

*am* asthmatic - but I was artificially fed and had the early

vaccinations of diphtheria and whooping cough and polio. And I

*still* got whooping cough! Dh is asthmatic - he was breastfed, but

was vaccinated against the same illnesses. So I'm going to keep my

little one asthma-free to the best of my ability.

Good luck with making the decision which will affect your child's

life - it *is* that critical. I think in the US you will get more

pressure put on you and I don't envy you. But do your homework, and

remember that if you choose *not* to vaccinate any further now, you

can always change your mind at a later date. Don't waste energy

regretting or worrying about what you *have* had - turn your

attention to finding out as much as you can for the future. Damage

limitation, I think it is called! :o)

Can I personally suggest you read the following from the archives to

get you started on the research? Messages 36191, 36193, 36206, 36263

and 38840. These give a very all-round picture of exactly what

vaccination *can* do. The last one that Sheri only posted a few days

ago is totally brilliant. Eighteen months old, but I wish every

expectant parent would be forced to read it!

Good luck - this list is very supportive, and I must make an effort

to " drop in " more often.

A very happy and peaceful Christmas/Solstice to you all, and a happy,

healthy and peaceful 2002!

Love, light and peace,

Sue

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Adrienne, the one that i worried about most was pertussis! This is a long and

awful illness. Your baby would most likely be hospitalized and its hard on

the parents. but unfortunatly this is the most deadly of the vaccines. my

brother was brain damaged, ADHD, and epileptic following this vaccine. i

would not touch it. further more, sheri will tell you that it can be treated

homeopathically.

i figure tetanus is no problem. he is too young to be exposed to the tetanus

bacteria which is an anerobic bacteria, that lives deep under ground. you

need a very deep and dirty wound for that. not likely in a small baby. and

also there are immunoglobulins you can give afterward.

diptheria and polio do not exist in the USA in the wild. the polio cases are

from the vaccination. furthermore, you will find that polio in 90% of cases

is no more serious than a cold. i did read that exposure to the pertussis

vaccine severely exacerbates the symptoms of polio which becomes paralytic.

why do you think that the drug manufacturers specifically say not to give

pertussis (the dtap actually) during an outbreak of polio? it says on the

insert. read it. it also says not to give when there is a history of seizures

in the family.

hep b, is a very dangerous vaccine. and it is only transmitted via syringes

as in drug users, and through sex. unlikely in a baby. if you and your hubby

are not positive, i would rule that out.

The meningitis vaccines are either ineffective or the baby gets meningitis

from the vaccine. i have read much more about meningitis being caused by

tylenol, motrin etc and also other vaccines.

Mumps, measles, rubella and chickenpox are mild illnesses in children who are

healthy, clean and well-nourished. breastfeeding is excellent for all

pathogens.

the whole thing is, adrienne that its never been proven that the vaccines

work. diseases were dying out anyway. the cost benefit ratio of the vaccines

is very weak! they are poisons and they cause brain damage and

immunosuppressive problems. check this out:

From tim o shea (the sanctity of human blood):

> " CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM

>

> One of the most frequent complications of vaccinations “gone wrong†seems

> to be diseases of the central nervous system. It is easy to understand why

> in the case of children. Their nervous systems are not complete. They’re

> still forming. Nerve tissue is the most delicate and sensitive substance,

> arguably in the entire universe. The insulation around nerves - myelin - is

> not complete yet. During its formation, nerve tissue is exquisitely

> sensitive to minute changes in its biological environment. The artificial

> presence of a diseased protein, plus mercury, aluminum, and formaldehyde in

> the blood, and the processes thus triggered, may contribute to abnormal

> nerve growth. Dr. Coulter chronicles a skyrocketing incidence of

> post-vaccination

> neurological disorders, including:

> -autism

> -hyperactivity

> -learning disabilities

> -mental retardation

> -encephalitis

> -Guillain Barre¢ syndrome

> -Coulter p 250 "

end of quotation

>

>

In a message dated 12/19/2001 2:25:31 PM Central Standard Time,

adrienneolson@... writes:

> Subj:Re: Thanks for the Welcome

> Date:12/19/2001 2:25:31 PM Central Standard Time

> From:<A

HREF= " mailto:adrienneolson@... " >adrienneolson@...</A>

> Reply-to:<A

HREF= " mailto:Vaccinations " >Vaccinations </A>

> To:<A

HREF= " mailto:Vaccinations " >Vaccinations </A>

> Sent from the Internet

>

>

>

> Thank you to everyone for your detailed welcoming. I appreciate the time

> you all spent in writing me. Sorry I'm not responding to each of you

> individually. I can't find the time to keep up with all the e-mail and I'm

> trying to spend a lot of time researching.

>

> I do have one question right now: What are the most serious diseases to be

> concerned about Hunter contracting if he were not vaccinated??? And, does

> anyone know what the liklihood is of him contracting the disease if we

> don't vaccinate. This is what I'm trying to determine right now.

>

> Thanks again for the welcome and info.

> Adrienne (Mom to Hunter 8/2/01)

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Yeah, I guess I don't like that name Becky, and no one

has ever called me it. But I do have a nickname but

only my parents call me it.

(rad)

--- camino_rmsr <rmsr@...> wrote:

> 107 messages! That's got to be a first. I'm going

> to have to learn

> how to post on a threaded discussion by trial and

> error. I apologize

> in advance...

>

> I love reading about all the things that have been

> driving me crazy

> for the past few years! Randy flops at 5 yrs old

> and 35 pounds and I

> still barely lift him and carry him while he fights

> against me, but a

> couple more pounds and it's all over but the

> cryin'...

>

> Rad, thank you for your willingness to help

> with our

> identity. I will try and sign " Randy's Mom " as my

> honorable title.

> (I also think it's funny neither of us are willing

> to go by, " Becky " !)

>

> 'Great to meet all of you! (Randy's Mom)

>

>

=====

Since I don't have a silly one. My AOL IM chat symbol is a batman symbol.

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In a message dated 5/4/02 12:45:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rmsr@...

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> Rad, thank you for your willingness to help with our

> identity. I will try and sign " Randy's Mom " as my honorable title.

> (I also think it's funny neither of us are willing to go by, " Becky " !)

>

> 'Great to meet all of you! (Randy's Mom)

Hey,. welcome . I'm catching up on mail. My daughter has a

friend named and goes by *Becca*. Is that unusual?

Donna

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In a message dated 7/29/02 6:09:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

suehodge2002@... writes:

<< Thanks to everybody who has welcomed me so warmly to this group. I

agree with all of you that it's better to get a professional

diagnosis than not. I will be making an appointment very soon to have

Everett evaluated. Can anybody give me tips on how to prepare for the

evaluation? What does the doctor do to determine if a child does

indeed have PDD/ASD? Is it from observing the child and questioning

the parents on behaviors, etc.? I look forward to getting to know you

all better. Thanks for your help.

Sue

mom to Carla & Everett-5yrs/ds/repaired AVSD/AAI/in remission from

leukemia >>

Sue,

Seth was dx'd by accident, really. We took him to Syracuse for pica and

eating issues and came out with the asd dx. It was done with a child psych

and dev. ped observing him and asking us questions. That was when he just

turned two years old. If I were to take him now, I would video tape him at

home with both good and bad behaviors, get the school to send in their own

eval and write down everything I could that MIGHT mean something to the Dr.

Good luck

Gail :-)

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Its a little bit of both in our case, they observed

nathan in different situations at the docs office and

went through many questions and discussions of issues

and behaviors. I had no idea really what autism was

when we were told, but i agree that the techniques

used more for autistics have worked better for nathan

in school and home. shawna.

--- suehodge2002 <suehodge2002@...> wrote:

> Thanks to everybody who has welcomed me so warmly to

> this group. I

> agree with all of you that it's better to get a

> professional

> diagnosis than not. I will be making an appointment

> very soon to have

> Everett evaluated. Can anybody give me tips on how

> to prepare for the

> evaluation? What does the doctor do to determine if

> a child does

> indeed have PDD/ASD? Is it from observing the child

> and questioning

> the parents on behaviors, etc.? I look forward to

> getting to know you

> all better. Thanks for your help.

>

> Sue

> mom to Carla & Everett-5yrs/ds/repaired AVSD/AAI/in

> remission from

> leukemia

>

>

>

>

>

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I like your remedy for heart dropsy. Used it on my spouse last night

when she came home from work ranting and raving. I like to keep

an emergency stash around just for times like these. Works wonders.

On Jun 18, 2004, at 9:21 AM, wrote:

> Folks, thanks to everyone for the warm welcome.

>

> I can see by reading some of the previous posts that most folks here

> have CRS. I also have a severe case of Heart Dropsy, every time I

> drop down, I just don't have the heart to get up. Terrible medical

> condition. Best med for Heart Dropsy is Michlobe Ultra

> (moderately).

>

> Eve, you are just having withdrawal pains. They will go away

> in a couple of days now. If not, make an appointment to come to see

> me.

>

> Turk, Since I've cut back to 100MG of Amio, those halos have all but

> disappeared and the sun doesn't seem to bother me any. How about

> you?

>

> Gail and , humor and flair ups are the same thing.

>

> Bill, next time you go the chat and no one is there, try chatting

> with yourself. Just don't argue, you will lose.

>

> To everyone else, you are in my prayers. Best to those of you who

> are having surgery or any health problems.

>

> Take care. Stay strong.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

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Hi Holly and welcome to LL! Guess burped you outta my mail

box...Grrrrr I would have welcomed you earlier... I really believe you're

going to

love LL... Since I didn't recieve your email, I really don't know what if

anything you had to say...

Blessings,

Kiki

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Hi Holly!

I'm a little late, but welcome! I've only been doing LL since June,

but it really has improved my life in so many ways. My main goal

when I started LL was to lose 15 lbs. and get a more streamlined look

(toned but not bulky muscles)...and LL is really helping with that.

However, I also had so many other great " side effects " ...greater lung

capacity, improved skin tone/color, less stress, etc. And like

Rashelle had said in an earlier post, there is more and more evidence

that disease can't live in an oxygen rich environment...so that alone

is enough to keep me doing LL forever! ; )

This is such a great group of ladies...so helpful, and a lot of fun

to chat with! You'll love it here...

Take good care...glad to have you with us!

> Thanks, everyone, for the nice welcome. I have to wait until I

can afford

> the tapes to start the program. What would you all recommend to

start with

> for the least amount of money. I am eager to start. Holly

>

> Holly Laibson

>

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> check out my blog at _Have You Any Wool?_

> (http://journals.aol.com/hlaibson/HaveYouAnyWool/)

http:journals.aol.com/hlaibson/HaveYouAnyWool/

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In a message dated 1/5/2007 1:40:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wendy_rvp@... writes:

I have a new evening snack I think is a good one. What do you think?I take a medium apple and cut it into small pieces and put it into a small tupperware container. I add (approx)1 TB brown sugar splenda, dash of cinnimon, 1tsp corn starch, 1 TB water. I put the lid on and shake it real goood, pop the lid and microwave for 2 1/2 min. It tastes just like apple pie filling and I estimate has approximately 90-100 calories.

Think it sounds delish!

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Hey , thanks for a great post. I was put on my first calorie restricted diet by a doctor when I was 13 years old. I was starving all the time until one day, I wasn't hungry at all. How great that was! What I didn't know was that I was not longer hungry because my metabolism had slowed itself down in self defence. I was no longer hungry, but no longer losing weight either. Of course when the diet broke, I put back all of the weight and another 10. The next time it was 20 extra and so on until I had dieted myself up to 250 pounds.

In my experience, doctor's don't really understand the physiology of low calorie dieting and the effects that it has on the body in the long term. Most have no life experience on the subject and only know what is in the textbooks. I think someone said that they take one nutrition course during the whole program in medical school.

In my researched opinion, 1100 calories is not enough to fuel your body and your metabolism. I keep mine about 1500, but usually consider 1200 to be the bare minimum and acceptable if it's not the norm every day. The time that I lost the most weight was when I was doing daily exercise and eating about 2000 low fat calories. I was never hungry, but everything was all natural and seemed to burn off more quickly. That one ended after 4 years LOL.

As for the snack, I often reach for the apples, but I have a sliced raw apple with a piece of real cheese to balance the sugar, fat and protein. I slice the apple and cheese into 4 pieces and eat them together. If I had the apple alone, especially cooked, I'd crash with hunger an hour later. With the cheese, I'm usually good for 2-3 hours and it doesn't trigger a binge... JudyP

However my doctor has asked me to limit my intake to 1100 which I just could not do, and don't want to set myself up for failure, which is why I chose 1200. So far I have been able to stick with that within a few calories.

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Just like to say thanks for the welcome to your group. I had the SCS rep that is

helping to install the implant ring me today. Am now feeling alot better about

having the procedure done next week. I'm having the permanent one fitted

straight up due to the amount of back ops I've already had over the last 4

years.

Was fantastic to hear that they like a person with a little bit of fat on the

butt!! Made my day -lol.

I dare say over the next few weeks I'll have queries to put to you and will be

wlcoming your replies.

The rep from the company was really quite good. She gave me her email address

and mobile number incase I need tot alk to her about anything.

Once again - thanks. Hope I get to know you a little better soon.

Warm Cheers

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