Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 I would suggest you go ahead and try prozac. The role of seritonin in CFS is unclear --so give it a try. MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS WHAT IS ? Efamol Marine - Action for ME, a UK based organisation have mentioned this as very helpful with CFS symptoms but the manufacturer recommend taking 8 capsules a day for 12 weeks to build up levels before dropping to 2 a day from then on. At 10 UKP's (about 18 USD) for 90 capsules this could be expe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Dr. Bell put me on prozac a few years ago. We discussed all the pros and cons. Believe me, if i can't trust Dr Bell.........where do i go next?? thanks, Benjy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Hi , My young daughter had a bad experience with Prozac. She was taking 20 mg. and reacted with the worst sore throat she has ever had. At the time, I thought the doctor believed in CFS as an organic illness and that the Prozac would actually be helpful for her symptoms. Well, it turned out that the doctor thought CFS was an it's-all-in-your-head disease, and it wasn't until several months later that we caught on, and, thankfully, converted her to the physical disease model. If you decide you do want to try Prozac, start with a very low dose (i.e. 1-5 mg.) since CFS patients tend to be extremely sensitive to new medications. I understand that there is a liquid form that will allow you to measure such low doses since the capsules only come in 10 and 20 mg. April On Thu, 6 Jan 2000 13:59:59 -0000 <goldfysh@...> writes: > 1) Prozac - my GP wants me to start taking this, and I am reluctant > as I am suffering no symptoms of clinical depression (I've suffered from it > in the past and although I'm fed up at the moment I know it's not the same > thing). My GP says that I should take a 12 week course as, although I show no > symptoms of depression it may be an A-typical depression and also > because Prozac is " proven " to help CFS. I had a short course of Seroxat for > this reason some time ago and it wiped me out, so I really don't want to > have 12 weeks of zombification with Prozac if theres no real beenfit - any > thoughts/experiences ? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Dr. Jaocb Teitelbaum discusses the role of male and female hormones in CFS in his book. It is available from www.amazon.co.uk if you are interested. It is well worth reading (don't be put off by it's silly title). From Fatigued to Fantastic by Teitelbaum Usually dispatched in 24 hours Avery Publishing Group Paperback Our Price: £6.63 You Save: £5.32 (44%) Regards, . Questions! > > 4) Endometriosis - I was disgnosed with endometriosis following a > laparoscopy last year and had a 4 month course of Zoladex (a hormone > treatment that put me in an artificial menopause for 6 months). I have read > that there is a link between endo and CFS but can't find any " official " > information. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 it seem that a lot of folks with cfs are on an ssri(prozac) what is the problem with it? CatBen54@... wrote: > Dr. Bell put me on prozac a few years ago. We discussed all the pros > and cons. Believe me, if i can't trust Dr Bell.........where do i go next?? > thanks, Benjy > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 12:48 pm, lightworksunlimited wrote: > 3 Oh and dose anyone know if you can take supplements while on > the patch? > I'm going to call the brand that makes them, but they tell you > everything is ok. > I take= Creatine > CLA > Vitamin > > I'm going to add flax seed oil starting today, once I figure out the > supplement thing. Haven't taken any in 4 days' Wanted it out of > my system! Are you using a smokers patch or Ortho-Evra? I use ortho-evra and have used creatine on and off without any side effects. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 I'm using the NicoDerm Clear patch,step two! the advantage of the nicderm is you can cut them and get smaller doses.. and it won't leak. This way you get more bang for your buck! I called Nicoderm and asked if I need to take it off to exercise and they said yes. ( cause it coud causea nicotine overdose) The girl kindly told me I could re-apply the same patch when I was done! Also she said that I should consult a doctor about the supplements but again kindly told me that it's nicotine and if I was a smoker and used my supplements.. you would think I already had nicotine in my system! I think that's an ok! K. > > 3 Oh and dose anyone know if you can take supplements while on > > the patch? > > I'm going to call the brand that makes them, but they tell you > > everything is ok. > > I take= Creatine > > CLA > > Vitamin > > > > I'm going to add flax seed oil starting today, once I figure out the > > supplement thing. Haven't taken any in 4 days' Wanted it out of > > my system! > > Are you using a smokers patch or Ortho-Evra? > I use ortho-evra and have used creatine on and off without any side > effects. > > > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 1. Check out Hussman's site. The whole thing is fantastic but the part you want is the section on How Calories Work and the link to the BMR calculator. It will give you a pretty accurate calorie range. http://hussman.org/fitness/ 2. The recommendation is generally 1g of protein per pound of body weight. Someone who has a lot of weight to lose might want to go with 1g of protein per pound of lean mass or goal weight instead. You'd probably be shooting for something like 120-150g of protein a day if you're eating 1200-1500 calories. Most female BFLers aim for 20-25g of protein at each of their six meals. 3. Don't know about supplements and the patch. If you start taking flax oil, take it and the CLA at a different time than the creatine because fat can slow creatine uptake. 4. I quit taking CLA because it doesn't really do anything unless you're a chicken or a rat. Apparently it makes them really buff. :-) The results have been less than stellar in humans. It's best for supporting lean mass while you diet or preventing too much fat gain when you're eating for muscle growth. I find it pretty iffy even on those counts though. On 8/16/05, lightworksunlimited <no_reply > wrote: > 1. Dose anyone know a good website to figure out how many calories I > should be eating? I've been going by portions but would like to track > how much I'm putting in to my body and seeing the calories deficit? > > 2. Anyone know how to figure out the calculation of how much protein > you should be in taking.. that confuses me? > > I'm 5/5 > 158 pounds > 35.3 BF > > > 3 Oh and dose anyone know if you can take supplements while on the patch? > I'm going to call the brand that makes them, but they tell you > everything is ok. > I take= Creatine > CLA > Vitamin > > I'm going to add flax seed oil starting today, once I figure out the > supplement thing. Haven't taken any in 4 days' Wanted it out of my system! > > 4. how many cla's dose everyone take and how many times a day? > > > See you at the top! > > K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 1. Check out Hussman's site. The whole thing is fantastic but the part you want is the section on How Calories Work and the link to the BMR calculator. It will give you a pretty accurate calorie range. http://hussman.org/fitness/ 2. The recommendation is generally 1g of protein per pound of body weight. Someone who has a lot of weight to lose might want to go with 1g of protein per pound of lean mass or goal weight instead. You'd probably be shooting for something like 120-150g of protein a day if you're eating 1200-1500 calories. Most female BFLers aim for 20-25g of protein at each of their six meals. 3. Don't know about supplements and the patch. If you start taking flax oil, take it and the CLA at a different time than the creatine because fat can slow creatine uptake. 4. I quit taking CLA because it doesn't really do anything unless you're a chicken or a rat. Apparently it makes them really buff. :-) The results have been less than stellar in humans. It's best for supporting lean mass while you diet or preventing too much fat gain when you're eating for muscle growth. I find it pretty iffy even on those counts though. On 8/16/05, lightworksunlimited <no_reply > wrote: > 1. Dose anyone know a good website to figure out how many calories I > should be eating? I've been going by portions but would like to track > how much I'm putting in to my body and seeing the calories deficit? > > 2. Anyone know how to figure out the calculation of how much protein > you should be in taking.. that confuses me? > > I'm 5/5 > 158 pounds > 35.3 BF > > > 3 Oh and dose anyone know if you can take supplements while on the patch? > I'm going to call the brand that makes them, but they tell you > everything is ok. > I take= Creatine > CLA > Vitamin > > I'm going to add flax seed oil starting today, once I figure out the > supplement thing. Haven't taken any in 4 days' Wanted it out of my system! > > 4. how many cla's dose everyone take and how many times a day? > > > See you at the top! > > K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 On 08/16/05 at 10:45 AM you wrote: > I'm using the NicoDerm Clear patch,step two! the advantage of the > nicderm is you can cut them and get smaller doses.. and it won't leak. > This way you get more bang for your buck! > > I called Nicoderm and asked if I need to take it off to exercise and > they said yes. ( cause it coud causea nicotine overdose) The girl > kindly told me I could re-apply the same patch when I was done! > > Also she said that I should consult a doctor about the supplements but > again kindly told me that it's nicotine and if I was a smoker and used > my supplements.. you would think I already had nicotine in my system! > I think that's an ok! I thought you meant a smokers patch but I wasn't sure. (()) - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2005 Report Share Posted August 16, 2005 On 08/16/05 at 10:45 AM you wrote: > I'm using the NicoDerm Clear patch,step two! the advantage of the > nicderm is you can cut them and get smaller doses.. and it won't leak. > This way you get more bang for your buck! > > I called Nicoderm and asked if I need to take it off to exercise and > they said yes. ( cause it coud causea nicotine overdose) The girl > kindly told me I could re-apply the same patch when I was done! > > Also she said that I should consult a doctor about the supplements but > again kindly told me that it's nicotine and if I was a smoker and used > my supplements.. you would think I already had nicotine in my system! > I think that's an ok! I thought you meant a smokers patch but I wasn't sure. (()) - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 This is just my personal opinion (but I believe others here share it) - KT will become more fizzy in the secondary ferment. If you like yours tart, not sweet, you can let it go for longer than the 7 or so days, but that won't ensure more fizziness. But every batch is different. Where I really get the fizziness is when I decant and then add some strawberries to my bottle (secondary needs to have an airtight seal and then you " burp it " every day or so - this ensures that it won't explode on you). Some of my strawberry KT gets so fizzy it fizzes right out of the bottle. It's delicious and my family loves it too. Others here like using fresh slices of ginger and say that it makes theirs very fizzy. Maybe continue to ask around about whether leaving it longer in your original brew will really make it fizzier or not - and I am not sure that using GT's will help the cause. Hope you get the results you were looking for! Questions! Hello all! I have read that you can start kombucha by using GT's as a starter. Has anyone here tried that and if so what was the result? I am trying to get some carbonation in my kombucha and looking for ideas. I have heard that I need to ferment longer than my normal 8 days. Then again I read that after 8 days the benefits of kombucha greatly reduce. The good stuff goes away? Anyway, I was thinking that maybe I could use a bottle of GT's original and my scoby and then just let it ferment longer. Also should I let it sit without the scoby in an airtight container after brewing for awhile? How long? Anyone that could share what you do to get good bubbly, tart kombucha, I would LOVE to hear it? Thanks so much! ************** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & amp; Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Hello there Trask Family....no...the benefits of Kombucha do not decrease after brewing for eight days....if that were true, all of those who do continuous would be in a woeful state. It is at eight days that some of the beneficial aspects are just starting to appear, not the other way around, IMHO. Lack of fizz is usually a lack of yeast....check out Len Porzo's Balancing Act site for good info. I believe it is a must read for all Kombucha brewers. Answers most of the commonly asked questions. Below is the URL which can also be found on the OK site in the files section. http://www.geocities.com/kombucha_balance/ Go the these sections: INCREASING THE RATIO OF YEAST TO ACETOBACTER POPULATIONS and INCREASING CARBONATION I have grown SCOBY from GT's and mad brews from it, but over time I was not pleased with it and abandoned it. When the brew was as tart as I like it, it seemed to just not taste as nice as my others. If you do experiment with this,, please let us know how it goes. Gayle Questions! > Hello all! > I have read that you can start kombucha by using GT's as a starter. Has > anyone here tried that and if so what was the result? I am trying to get > some > carbonation in my kombucha and looking for ideas. I have heard that I need > to > ferment longer than my normal 8 days. Then again I read that after 8 days > the > benefits of kombucha greatly reduce. The good stuff goes away? Anyway, I > was > thinking that maybe I could use a bottle of GT's original and my scoby and > then just > let it ferment longer. Also should I let it sit without the scoby in an > airtight container after brewing for awhile? How long? Anyone that could > share what > you do to get good bubbly, tart kombucha, I would LOVE to hear it? Thanks > so > much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Hello, I just got a call that my ins. approved me for the trial. I was just wondering if anyone else has been told to go ahead and take your meds that day. If I do that then I will be close to being out of pain so how will I be able to tell them anything? Will someone tell me all the do and donts and tips on how to make sure you stick to it.? how much pain were you in after the trial was done? how long were you in the hospital for the perm. one and if longer than one day why? sorry for all the questions... melissa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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