Re: lung CA vith brain metastases

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Hi. I assume that you have done some research on the toxic effects of chemo

and radiation treatments for small cell lung cancer. Knowing this., I would

suggest you get your hands on B-17 (Laetrile), apricot seeds and Pancreatic

Enzymes to help fight the cancer. My in-law is now in the hospital crippled

from the effects of chemo and radiation treatments for small cell lung cancer

that spread to the brain. She has been on life support for the last 3 weeks.

I warned her 20 months ago to stop the chemo when the 4 + centimeter rapidly

growing small cell tumor had been reduced to a nodule after 3 major chemo

sessions and to just stay on the B-17/Enzyme Therapy. She refused to give up

the chemo. She is now paying the price for her ignorance. I wish you the best

of luck. Ciro

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Dear Mehmet,

I'm not a health practitioner and have no credentials, so please don't follow

anything I say blindly.

In a message dated 06/22/2001 3:39:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

mzsaclioglu@... writes:

> Can somebody tell me what the suitable protocol is for a 54 year old man

with

> a small cell lung CA

I've read that the following are effective specifically in healing

small cell lung cancer (SCLC):

GERMANIUM-132 (Ge-132)-- Moderate to large doses should ONLY be

taken under supervision of physician.

melatonin-- effective even if metastasized

inosine (amino acid)

megadoses of vitamins and trace minerals

> and metastases to brain. He got chemo 2 times for the

> lungs and radiotherapy 10 times to brain and the doctors are planing to

make

> chemo and radio

The less chemo (in particular) and radiation he gets, the more likely the

natural supplements will be effective.

> I gave him the protocol 1 which moonbeam

Excellent decision.

> but I don't have an idea about the doses of...

> spirulina

6 heaping teaspoons/day?

> selenometionine

I've read 250-600mcg/day

> Vit E. for his position.

I've read 400-600 IU/day

> He only takes 6 tablespoons flax seed oil+yogurt every day.

Excellent.

In a message dated 06/23/2001 2:45:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Ciro291@... writes:

>. I would suggest you get your hands on B-17 (Laetrile), apricot seeds and

Pancreatic

> Enzymes

I agree, particularly the enzymes (preferably Wobe Mugos/Wobenzyme from Mucos

(www.mucos.de or www.mucos.cz/eng/Default.htm).

Best wishes,

Leonard

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Dear Mehmet,

First I'm not a doctor., so this is not an medical advice but just a mail from a ex (hopefully) cancerpatient.

From my doctor and biologist, in my eyes the best there is in Europe, I know that he gives to other people with brain metastases a lot of supplements among them melatonin and ATP. He also write about melatonin and some studies at my site at the page onderzoek en voeding but unfortunately it's only in dutch. Maybe you could use a translating program to translate it?

Beside that I know from some people with lungcancer who don't cure from the cancer but the cancer process has slowed down or even stopped with a diet and a lot of certain supplements. But I don't know which supplements they use.

Gr. Kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

lung CA vith brain metastases

Dear List members,

Can somebody tell me what the suitable protocol is for a 54 year old man with a small cell lung CA and metastases to brain. He got chemo 2 times for the lungs and radiotherapy 10 times to brain and the doctors are planing to make chemo and radio together for the lungs. He has 18 small tumors in the brain and I think nothing can be done for it. I gave him the protocol 1 which moonbeam wrote several times, but I don't have an idea about the doses of Betaglucan, spirulina, Vit.C, selenometionine and Vit E. for his position. He only takes 6 tablespoons flax seed oil+yogurt every day.

I need advice.

Thank you from now.

Mehmet saclioglu, Istanbul,TurkeyGet HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

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Mildred I'm not quite sure what ist is exactly so I will ask first my doctor before I answer you. But in this group I've seen several messages where people mention ATP. So maybe Moonbeam or Leonard also can exactly explain what ATP is. But I will ask my doctor because he is starting a trial with ATP in a big Dutch Hospital.

Gr. Kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

lung CA vith brain metastases

Dear List members,

Can somebody tell me what the suitable protocol is for a 54 year old man with a small cell lung CA and metastases to brain. He got chemo 2 times for the lungs and radiotherapy 10 times to brain and the doctors are planing to make chemo and radio together for the lungs. He has 18 small tumors in the brain and I think nothing can be done for it. I gave him the protocol 1 which moonbeam wrote several times, but I don't have an idea about the doses of Betaglucan, spirulina, Vit.C, selenometionine and Vit E. for his position. He only takes 6 tablespoons flax seed oil+yogurt every day.

I need advice.

Thank you from now.

Mehmet saclioglu, Istanbul,TurkeyGet HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

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Hi Mehmet,

Once again the best results in treatment of brain cancers was reoported by Dr.Burzynski. The latest results I received this month, September,2000 from Dr.Burzynski’s clinical trials reported the following updated Results:

His antineoplastons are in FDA sanctioned clinical trials for varying cancers. Website www.cancermed.com you can link to a patient group that did well on the treatment at www.burzynskipatientgroup.org.

All of the reported results deal with Brain cancers.

The detailed protocols for each of the clinical trials is on his website www.cancermed.com

click on the 72 FDA supervised clinical trials.

The latest report of FDA supervised Phase 2 clinical Trials of Antineoplastons A10 and AS2-1 included 35 evaluable patients diagnosed with glioblastoma multiforme(39% of patients),anaplastic glioma(36%),low grade glioma (14%),PNET(8%) and malignant meningioma (3%).

In the CAN-1 results of 35 evaluable patients of 43 results improved slightly some movement from partial response to complete response

Complete Response-CR 25.7%

Partial Response-PR 22.9

Stable Disease-SD 31.4

Objective ResponseCR+PR 48.6

Positive Resp CR+PR+SD 80

Progressive Disease 20

Patients not admitted to CAN-1 results of 11 evaluable of 23

Complete Response-CR 27

Partial Response-PR 0

Stable Disease-SD 46

Objective ResponseCR+PR 27

Positive RespCR+PR+SD 73

Progressiv Disease 27

BT-3 Astrocytoma in 20 Patients

Complete ResponseCR 20

Partial ResponsePR 10

Stable DiseaseSD 50

Objective ResponseCR+PR 30

Positiv Resp CR+PR+SD 80

Progressive Disease 20

BT-3 High Grade Glioma in 12 Patients

Complete ResponseCR 16.7

Partial ResponsePR 16.7

Stable DiseaseSD 33.3

Objective ResponseCR+PR 33.4

Positive RespCR+PR+SD 66.7

Progressive Disease 33.3

BT-9 Primary Brain Tumors in 11 evaluable of 17 patients improved moving slightly from partial response to complete response.

Complete ResponseCR 9.1

Partial ResponsePR 45.5

Stable DiseaseSD 36.4

Objective ResponseCR+PR 54.6

Positive Response 91

Progressive Disease 9

BT-11 Brain Stem Glioma in 18 evaluable of 23 Patients improved slightly with movement from partial response up to complete and from stable disease to partial response

Complete ResponseCR 16.7

Partial ResponsePR 22.2

Stable DiseaseSD 27.8

Objective ResponseCR+PR 38.9

Positive ResponseCR+PR+SD 66.7

Progressive Disease 33.3

BT-13 Children with low grade Astrocytoma in 8 evaluable of 9 patients there was slight improvement moving from stable disease partial response

Complete ResponseCR 25

Partial ResponsePR 37.5

Stable Disease 25

Objective ResponseCR+PR 62.5

Positive RespCR+PR+SD 87.5

Progressive Disease 12.5

B-18 Mixed Glioma in 11 evaluable of 14 patients

Complete ResponseCR 27.3

Partial ResponsePR 9.1

Stable DiseaseSD 18.2

Objective ResponseCR+PR 36.4

Positive RespCR+PR+SD 54.6

Progressive Disease 45.4

Medullablastoma (PNET) in 12 children under 2 protocols

Objective ResponseCR+ PR 33.3

Stable DiseaseSD 33.3

Positive Response 66.6

Progressive Disease 33.3

Some of these patients classified stable disease continue to take antineoplastons had tumor decreases and are approaching partial response.

The one year survival rate on antineoplastons in these medullablastoma trials is 92%

The two year survival rate is 75%

Most Patients (7) in this trial did not receive standard therapy; in these cases they received antineoplastons after surgery.These patients had a 3 year survival rate of 86%.

The survival rate of patients receiving only surgery is 0 to 12% after 1 year and 0% after 2 years.

The above response rates were categorized as defined by the National Cancer Institute definitions as follows:

Complete Response required complete disappearance of all content-enhanced tumor(s) on imaging studies for 4 weeks or longer.

Partial Response required more than 50% reduction in the sum of the products of the greatest perpendicular diameters in contrast enhanced tumor(s) for at least 4 weeks.

Stable Disease required less than 50% change(either greater or smaller) in the sum of the product of the greatest perpendicular diameters of the contrast enhanced tumor(s) for at least 12 weeks.

Progressive Disease was greater than 50% increase in the sum of the products of the greatest perpendicular diameters of the contrast enhanced tumor(s)compared with the nadir evaluation or appearance of new lesions.

In the CAN-1 trial, the oldest trial, median time to disease progression was 16 months from first day of treatment. Median Time of survival was 27 months from first day of treatment and median time of survival from diagnosis is 4 years. Of the 43 patients(including those non-evaluable) in the CAN-1 trial 16 patients are alive and responding to antineoplastons for an average survival of 4 years.

Antineoplastons will be submitted to the FDA for approval as a new prescription drug later this year. Currently they are only available in clinical trials.

Since it is considered experimental insurance and HMO’s usually will not pay for it up front although some people have received settlements after they rcovered and claimed reimbursement.

lung CA vith brain metastases

Dear List members,

Can somebody tell me what the suitable protocol is for a 54 year old man with a small cell lung CA and metastases to brain. He got chemo 2 times for the lungs and radiotherapy 10 times to brain and the doctors are planing to make chemo and radio together for the lungs. He has 18 small tumors in the brain and I think nothing can be done for it. I gave him the protocol 1 which moonbeam wrote several times, but I don't have an idea about the doses of Betaglucan, spirulina, Vit.C, selenometionine and Vit E. for his position. He only takes 6 tablespoons flax seed oil+yogurt every day.

I need advice.

Thank you from now.

Mehmet saclioglu, Istanbul,TurkeyGet HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

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I have read that the flax is supposed to be used with cottage cheese not

yogurt. Seems like a small thing to add, but that is what I had read in

previous posts.

>From: " Superonline " <mzsaclioglu@...>

>Reply-cures for cancer

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>Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:58:47 +0300

>

>Dear List members,

>Can somebody tell me what the suitable protocol is for a 54 year old man

>with a small cell lung CA and metastases to brain. He got chemo 2 times for

>the lungs and radiotherapy 10 times to brain and the doctors are planing to

>make chemo and radio together for the lungs. He has 18 small tumors in the

>brain and I think nothing can be done for it. I gave him the protocol 1

>which moonbeam wrote several times, but I don't have an idea about the

>doses of Betaglucan, spirulina, Vit.C, selenometionine and Vit E. for his

>position. He only takes 6 tablespoons flax seed oil+yogurt every day.

>I need advice.

>Thank you from now.

>Mehmet saclioglu, Istanbul,Turkey

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Subject: Re: lung CA vith brain metastases

> > I gave him

> >the protocol 1 which moonbeam wrote several times, but I don't have an

> >idea about the doses of Betaglucan, spirulina, Vit.C, selenometionine and

> >Vit E. for his position.I need advice. Thank you from now. Mehmet

> >saclioglu, Istanbul,Turkey

Hi,

If I were him I would take

1. yeast derived beta glucan, 2 or 3 gms a day

2. Spirulina 3 heaped teaspoons twice a day, electrically blended in juice.

3. Vitamin C, 3gm three times day

4. Half a pineapple juiced in a slow speed juicer with the peel left on. Half a

Paw Paw

(papaya) juiced or eaten. Several tablets of multiple enzyme complex with

pancreatic

enzymes, Bromelain + Papayan enzymes, serrapeptase enzme (dosage on bottle).

If I take too much Spirulina or Vitamin C it might give me some temporary

diarrhoea, so

I reduce the amount if I get any temporary diarrhoea.

moonbeam