3 1/2 yr old w/ leukemia...

August 1, 2001

I've taken Vitamin C since my cancer diagnosis two years ago. I've been cleared of cancer, but I still take the C. I took nearly 10,000 mg daily throughout my treatment and now take approx. 6,000 mg. daily in the form of sodium ascorbate, as recommended by ing. I order mine from Bronson Pharmaceuticals (also recommended by ing). Be careful w/ this dose, as one must maintain these levels daily. It has something to do w/ the bloodstream. Sorry...can't remember w/out my book, but my Dr. told me the same thing. Keep the dose consistent, and if you have to go without for whatever reason, gradually lower and then increase when back on.

As for leukemia....chlorophyll!!! It's so simple and so important.

Wheatgrass, barleygrass, etc. Cleanse that bloodstream and all else will follow suit.

www.christinacooks.com is a great site. She was diagnosed w/ leukemia and refused medical treatment. She began a macrobiotic diet and is cancer free.

Read the site. It's worth it.

Hope this helps. )

Judi

August 2, 2001

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From: fradcat@...

Date sent: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:09:50 EDT

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: 3 1/2 yr old w/ leukemia...

> I've taken Vitamin C since my cancer diagnosis two years ago. I've been

> cleared of cancer, but I still take the C. I took nearly 10,000 mg daily

> throughout my treatment and now take approx. 6,000 mg. daily in the form

> of sodium ascorbate, as recommended by ing. I order mine from Bronson

> Pharmaceuticals (also recommended by ing).

> As for leukemia....chlorophyll!!! It's so simple and so important.

> Wheatgrass, barleygrass, etc. Cleanse that bloodstream and all else will

> follow suit.

Hi,

If this was my child this is what I would do.

First I would weigh myself and then weigh the child and work out what

percentage of my

weight the child was. I would then divide all the amounts of products below by

this ratio

and give them to my child. Perhaps I would omitt selenium as the health

authorities say

selenium is not suitable for children.

The oxygen bath would be exactly the same as for an adult, 10 to 15 minutes

twice a day.

I would also get some objective assesment of advancement of the disease, tumor

marker

counts or similar, in order that I could try and objectively monitor progression

or

remmision of the cancer.

I would implement Protocol 1 and monitor tumor markers for several months,

if after

four months on Protocol 1, there was progression of the disease instead of

remision, I

would consider low dose chemo or whatever the conventional medicine suggested,

but I

would still continue taking the immune boosting therapy outlined in Protocol 1.,

as

clinical trials show immune therapy improves outcomes of those on chemotherapy.

PROTOCOL 1.

This is the basic protocol that I would use for cancer. The first

10 items are the most important ones.

1. No meat or dairy products of any kind. Meat and dairy products contain

xeno- estrogens and Arachdonic Acid, both of which are growth accelerants

for all types of cancer cells.

2. The basic diet use a raw vegetable juice diet, with less then 30

percent of food cooked. The recommended juicer is a slow speed macerating

juicer, high-speed juices destroy he enzymes and Vitamins due to the

short-term high temperature spike created by the friction of a high-speed

juicer. Gerson therapy recommends 8 to12 glasses of homemade raw vegetable

juice per day. Juiced fresh pineapples (with skin left on) and PawPaw

(papaya) for bromelain and papayan enzymes. The enzymes remove the

protective coating which hides the tumor from the immune system.

Serrapeptase enzyme could also be used. Enzyme complex tablets.

3. Diet to include at least two punnets of sprouts ( mung, alfalfa,

salad sprouts or broccoli sprouts) per day. Sprouts can also be placed in

the slow speed juicer. Carrots and green leafy vegetable's lycopene also

ideal for the juicer. The carotenes and enzymes bio-available a direct

anti-cancer effect.

4. Diet to include 500 ml of V8 vegetable juice or canned (cooked)

tomato juice per day. The lycopene (delta carrotene) in cooked tomato

juice is several times more potent an anti-cancer compound then Beta

carotene from carrots. It is only orally active when cooked.

5. Diet to include 1,000 micrograms of Organic form selenium per day. ie,

L-Selenomethionine. Any other form of selenium is not bio available.

Selenium is synergistic with Vitamin E, so Vitamin E

supplementation of 1,200 international units per day is suggested. Thirty

fold increase in anybody cells typically follows such a selenium Vitamin

the combination.

6. Diet to include to 2 or 3 grams of beta-glucan, per day, at least 40

minutes before food. Diet to include three grams of Vitamin C. powder,

three times per day. Three times a day is suggested as the kidneys remove

the Vitamin C. from the body after a few hours. Vitamin C. will be

synergistic with the beta-glucan and the selenium.

7. Diet to include one tablespoon of cold pressed Flax Seed Oil (cold

pressed linseed oil). Mixed with 3/4 of a cup of cottage cheese. To be

taken two times per day. Research shows this dramatically increases the

oxygen carrying capacity of the blood. Cancer is an anaerobic disease.

This treatment will be synergistic with the peroxide treatment.

8. Diet to include three heaped teaspoons of Spirulina electrically mixed

in juice, two or three times per day. The phycocyanin in Spirulina

dramatically increases production of red and white blood cells from the

bone marrow progenitor stems cells. Also contains 30 fold greater carotene

content then carrots, also rich in GLA, cystine and methionine.

Will help reduce nausea and immune cell depletion following

chemotherapy.

9. Diet to include 20 drops of stabilized oxygen. Starting at two drops

on the the first day, and adding one drop more each day till 22 drops on

the day 20. This is best taken in juice to cover the flavour, can be

taken with juice at meal time.

10. Peroxide Bath treatment. Add one large coffee mug of peroxide to a

hot, shallow Bath about one-third full, at two tablespoons of DMSO to

bath. Take bath twice a day for 15 minutes per time. Repeat bath in the

afternoon reheating bath using the immersion heater. The bath must be

comfortably hot. Discard water each day. Important not to get any of this

water in the eyes, flush eyes with freshwater if eye contact occurs.

Concentrated peroxide is hazardous, stored in safe place away from

children, avoid skin contact, flush with water if skin contact with

concentrate occurs.

11. Additional beta-glucan supplementation can be obtained from Agicarus

Blazei mushroom extract, PSK etc, available via internet.

12. Spirulina, beta-glucan, Vitamin C. and selenium should begin prior to

chemo therapy. It is suggested that taking these 4 items will also help

prevent any recurrence of the cancer, as well as any spread of the cancer

(metastasis).

13. A beta-glucan cream can be used to prevent or reduce ulcer formation

at areas where radiotherapy is used.

14. Broccoli sprouts, one punnets of broccoli sprouts per day. Contains

glucoraphanin the precursor to anti cancer sulforaphane.

15. Laetrile, vitamin B17, or mygdelin therapy. Taking at least two

punnets of mung been or Salad sprouts per day will supply B17. Raw

Macadamia nuts, the kernels from inside nectarines and fresh apircot

kernels are good sources of B17. They must taste bitter. (Purchased

apricot kernels contain no B17) The cyanide in B17 acts against the

cancer, whereas it does not act against good cells. Broccoli sprouts also

contain B17. B17 tablets are a way to get a lot more B17 than by diet.

16. No cooked food if possible, thats why the slow speed juicer is so

important.

17. No processed food, no tap water, only

filtered water, no artificial flavorings or colourings.

18. No sugar.

19. Hypericum to keep your spirits up. Cats Claw herb daily, make into a

tea.

Ellagic acid, causes G1 mitosis arrest. (ie stops cell replication in

cancer cells) available via internet. (DMSO also produces reversable G1

cell arrest). Also for additional immune support; Astragalus, mannin from

Manotech, Noni Juice, Transfer Factor, grape seed extract, shark liver

oil, Vitamin B6.

moonbeam

>

> www.christinacooks.com is a great site. She was diagnosed w/ leukemia and

> refused medical treatment. She began a macrobiotic diet and is cancer

> free. Read the site. It's worth it.

>

> Hope this helps. )

>

> Judi

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> SIZE=2>I've taken Vitamin C since my cancer diagnosis two years ago.

> & nbsp;I've been cleared of cancer, but I still take the C. & nbsp;I

> took nearly 10,000 mg daily throughout my treatment and now take

> approx. 6,000 mg. daily in the form of sodium ascorbate, as

> recommended by ing. & nbsp;I order mine from Bronson

> Pharmaceuticals (also recommended by ing). & nbsp;Be careful w/

> this dose, as one must maintain these levels daily. & nbsp;It has

> something to do w/ the bloodstream. & nbsp;Sorry...can't remember w/out

> my book, but my Dr. told me the same thing. & nbsp;Keep the dose

> consistent, and if you have to go without for whatever reason,

> gradually lower and then increase when back on. As for

> leukemia....chlorophyll!!! & nbsp;It's so simple and so important. & nbsp;

> Wheatgrass, barleygrass, etc. & nbsp;Cleanse that bloodstream and all

> else will follow suit. www.christinacooks.com is a great

> site. & nbsp;She was diagnosed w/ leukemia and refused medical

> treatment. & nbsp;She began a macrobiotic diet and is cancer free. & nbsp;

> Read the site. & nbsp;It's worth it. Hope this helps.

> & nbsp;) Judi

>

>

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August 3, 2001

The child's mother is very grateful for everyone's input.

She is reading Hulda's books right now and is thinking about going to Hulda

's clinic, which I have been told has re-opened. (I thought she could

re-open but would be limited about what approaches she uses. Does anyone

know about this?) Also, does anyone know her experience with leukemia's? I

have my own opinion about her theories about the causes of cancer and how to

treat them, but I prefer to let people form their own opinion. If you have

any feedback you think I should give her about the clinic or Hulda's

approaches, I will pass it on.

One clinic - Mariposa Clinic in Spain feels they can help the child. Their

website is http://www.mariposasclinic.com/. They use budwig, electro

acupuncture, and other approaches. They have even offered to come to the

states, if necessary, to treat the child, with all their equipment and

everything. I don't know anyone who has gone there, but awhile back it was

mentioned on this forum by someone. If anyone has any experience with this

clinic or if you have heard anything about them, be sure to let us know.

The only clinic I know of that offers a refund if you don't see any

noticeable improvements within three (3) months or before, after following

their therapy.

Lilly's mother thanks everyone and so do I for all your input and

suggestions.

Melinda Wiman

www.cancure.org

Cancer Cure Foundation

(800) 282-2873

August 3, 2001

Designer foods might be easier to take for a child. You might

want to check the sites below.

1) PHYTOBEARS -- Especially designed for children, Phytobears

contain 26 essential vitamins, minerals and other vital

nutrients, in a base made from 30 different fruits and

vegetables.

http://www.mannapages.com/ShopNow/PRDHome.asp?CountryCodeID=1 & sMainMenu=ShopNow & \

sMain2Menu=ProductList & sSubMenu=Products & sSubMenuItem=na

2) SEASILVER -- Children take liquids easier than pills, and

SeaSilver is mild-tasting. It contains Aloe vera, Sea Plants,

Cleansers, etc. -- All the nutrients known to be vital to man.

http://www.seasilver.com/

(click " Our Products " & " ingredients " )

3) CANSEMA III. A Known Cancer Fighter. Although it's bitter,

it could probably be put in Juice. You use several drops from

an eyedropper-type bottle.

http://www.altcancer.com/ct3.htm

4) CLEANSING -- A good place for a child & parent to go. There

are trees, and animals. The owner of the website is a cancer

survivor, and she will teach you a lifestyle of healthy living.

(TOXINS are the cause of many cancers. In treating diseases, Dr.

's adamant about getting toxins and parasites out of your

body.)

http://www.hsu.com/

There are lots of others, I mentioned them before, but this is a

starter.

Joy

To prtect against cancer-causing free radicals, don't forget

antioxidants (see Pycnogenol, Q10, Vitamin C...).

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> cures for cancer

>From: fradcat@...

>Date sent: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:09:50 EDT

>Send reply to: cures for cancer

>Subject: 3 1/2 yr old w/ leukemia...

>> I've taken Vitamin C since my cancer diagnosis two years ago. I've been

>> cleared of cancer, but I still take the C. I took nearly 10,000 mg daily

>> throughout my treatment and now take approx. 6,000 mg. daily in the form

>> of sodium ascorbate, as recommended by ing. I order mine from Bronson

>> Pharmaceuticals (also recommended by ing).

>> As for leukemia....chlorophyll!!! It's so simple and so important.

>> Wheatgrass, barleygrass, etc. Cleanse that bloodstream and all else will

>> follow suit.

>

> Hi,

> If this was my child this is what I would do.

> First I would weigh myself and then weigh the child and work out what

percentage of my

>weight the child was. I would then divide all the amounts of products below by

this ratio

>and give them to my child. Perhaps I would omitt selenium as the health

authorities say

>selenium is not suitable for children.

>

> The oxygen bath would be exactly the same as for an adult, 10 to 15 minutes

twice a day.

>

> I would also get some objective assesment of advancement of the disease,

tumor marker

>counts or similar, in order that I could try and objectively monitor

progression or

>remmision of the cancer.

>

> I would implement Protocol 1 and monitor tumor markers for several months,

if after

>four months on Protocol 1, there was progression of the disease instead of

remision, I

>would consider low dose chemo or whatever the conventional medicine suggested,

but I

>would still continue taking the immune boosting therapy outlined in Protocol

1., as

>clinical trials show immune therapy improves outcomes of those on chemotherapy.

>

> PROTOCOL 1.

>

> This is the basic protocol that I would use for cancer. The first

> 10 items are the most important ones.

>

>1. No meat or dairy products of any kind. Meat and dairy products contain

>xeno- estrogens and Arachdonic Acid, both of which are growth accelerants

>for all types of cancer cells.

>

>2. The basic diet use a raw vegetable juice diet, with less then 30

>percent of food cooked. The recommended juicer is a slow speed macerating

>juicer, high-speed juices destroy he enzymes and Vitamins due to the

>short-term high temperature spike created by the friction of a high-speed

>juicer. Gerson therapy recommends 8 to12 glasses of homemade raw vegetable

>juice per day. Juiced fresh pineapples (with skin left on) and PawPaw

>(papaya) for bromelain and papayan enzymes. The enzymes remove the

>protective coating which hides the tumor from the immune system.

>Serrapeptase enzyme could also be used. Enzyme complex tablets.

>

>3. Diet to include at least two punnets of sprouts ( mung, alfalfa,

>salad sprouts or broccoli sprouts) per day. Sprouts can also be placed in

>the slow speed juicer. Carrots and green leafy vegetable's lycopene also

>ideal for the juicer. The carotenes and enzymes bio-available a direct

>anti-cancer effect.

>

>4. Diet to include 500 ml of V8 vegetable juice or canned (cooked)

>tomato juice per day. The lycopene (delta carrotene) in cooked tomato

>juice is several times more potent an anti-cancer compound then Beta

>carotene from carrots. It is only orally active when cooked.

>

>5. Diet to include 1,000 micrograms of Organic form selenium per day. ie,

> L-Selenomethionine. Any other form of selenium is not bio available.

> Selenium is synergistic with Vitamin E, so Vitamin E

>supplementation of 1,200 international units per day is suggested. Thirty

>fold increase in anybody cells typically follows such a selenium Vitamin

>the combination.

>

>6. Diet to include to 2 or 3 grams of beta-glucan, per day, at least 40

>minutes before food. Diet to include three grams of Vitamin C. powder,

>three times per day. Three times a day is suggested as the kidneys remove

>the Vitamin C. from the body after a few hours. Vitamin C. will be

>synergistic with the beta-glucan and the selenium.

>

>7. Diet to include one tablespoon of cold pressed Flax Seed Oil (cold

>pressed linseed oil). Mixed with 3/4 of a cup of cottage cheese. To be

>taken two times per day. Research shows this dramatically increases the

>oxygen carrying capacity of the blood. Cancer is an anaerobic disease.

>This treatment will be synergistic with the peroxide treatment.

>

>8. Diet to include three heaped teaspoons of Spirulina electrically mixed

>in juice, two or three times per day. The phycocyanin in Spirulina

>dramatically increases production of red and white blood cells from the

>bone marrow progenitor stems cells. Also contains 30 fold greater carotene

>content then carrots, also rich in GLA, cystine and methionine.

> Will help reduce nausea and immune cell depletion following

> chemotherapy.

>

>9. Diet to include 20 drops of stabilized oxygen. Starting at two drops

>on the the first day, and adding one drop more each day till 22 drops on

>the day 20. This is best taken in juice to cover the flavour, can be

>taken with juice at meal time.

>

>10. Peroxide Bath treatment. Add one large coffee mug of peroxide to a

>hot, shallow Bath about one-third full, at two tablespoons of DMSO to

>bath. Take bath twice a day for 15 minutes per time. Repeat bath in the

>afternoon reheating bath using the immersion heater. The bath must be

>comfortably hot. Discard water each day. Important not to get any of this

>water in the eyes, flush eyes with freshwater if eye contact occurs.

>Concentrated peroxide is hazardous, stored in safe place away from

>children, avoid skin contact, flush with water if skin contact with

>concentrate occurs.

>

>11. Additional beta-glucan supplementation can be obtained from Agicarus

>Blazei mushroom extract, PSK etc, available via internet.

>

>12. Spirulina, beta-glucan, Vitamin C. and selenium should begin prior to

>chemo therapy. It is suggested that taking these 4 items will also help

>prevent any recurrence of the cancer, as well as any spread of the cancer

>(metastasis).

>

>13. A beta-glucan cream can be used to prevent or reduce ulcer formation

>at areas where radiotherapy is used.

>

>14. Broccoli sprouts, one punnets of broccoli sprouts per day. Contains

>glucoraphanin the precursor to anti cancer sulforaphane.

>

>15. Laetrile, vitamin B17, or mygdelin therapy. Taking at least two

>punnets of mung been or Salad sprouts per day will supply B17. Raw

>Macadamia nuts, the kernels from inside nectarines and fresh apircot

>kernels are good sources of B17. They must taste bitter. (Purchased

>apricot kernels contain no B17) The cyanide in B17 acts against the

>cancer, whereas it does not act against good cells. Broccoli sprouts also

>contain B17. B17 tablets are a way to get a lot more B17 than by diet.

>

>16. No cooked food if possible, thats why the slow speed juicer is so

>important.

>

>17. No processed food, no tap water, only

>filtered water, no artificial flavorings or colourings.

>

> 18. No sugar.

>

> 19. Hypericum to keep your spirits up. Cats Claw herb daily, make into a

> tea.

>Ellagic acid, causes G1 mitosis arrest. (ie stops cell replication in

>cancer cells) available via internet. (DMSO also produces reversable G1

>cell arrest). Also for additional immune support; Astragalus, mannin from

>Manotech, Noni Juice, Transfer Factor, grape seed extract, shark liver

>oil, Vitamin B6.

>

> moonbeam

>

>>

>> www.christinacooks.com is a great site. She was diagnosed w/ leukemia and

>> refused medical treatment. She began a macrobiotic diet and is cancer

>> free. Read the site. It's worth it.

>>

>> Hope this helps. )

>>

>> Judi

>>

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>> SIZE=2>I've taken Vitamin C since my cancer diagnosis two years ago.

>> & nbsp;I've been cleared of cancer, but I still take the C. & nbsp;I

>> took nearly 10,000 mg daily throughout my treatment and now take

>> approx. 6,000 mg. daily in the form of sodium ascorbate, as

>> recommended by ing. & nbsp;I order mine from Bronson

>> Pharmaceuticals (also recommended by ing). & nbsp;Be careful w/

>> this dose, as one must maintain these levels daily. & nbsp;It has

>> something to do w/ the bloodstream. & nbsp;Sorry...can't remember w/out

>> my book, but my Dr. told me the same thing. & nbsp;Keep the dose

>> consistent, and if you have to go without for whatever reason,

>> gradually lower and then increase when back on. As for

>> leukemia....chlorophyll!!! & nbsp;It's so simple and so important. & nbsp;

>> Wheatgrass, barleygrass, etc. & nbsp;Cleanse that bloodstream and all

>> else will follow suit. www.christinacooks.com is a great

>> site. & nbsp;She was diagnosed w/ leukemia and refused medical

>> treatment. & nbsp;She began a macrobiotic diet and is cancer free. & nbsp;

>> Read the site. & nbsp;It's worth it. Hope this helps.

>> & nbsp;) Judi

>>

>>

>> <tt>

>> Get HUGE info at <a

>> href= " http://www.cures for cancer.ws, " >http://www.cures for cancer.ws,</a> and post

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>>

August 3, 2001

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From: Joyce Inouye <jinouy01@...>

Date sent: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT)

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: Re: 3 1/2 yr old w/ leukemia...

> Designer foods might be easier to take for a child. You might

> want to check the sites below.

Hi,

I know of a six month old baby who takes Spirulina, Beta Glucan and

vitamin C

squirted in his mouth in a dropper. He likes it and if taken early, gets rid of

his cold

overnight. Nose drops are necessary for his little head colds. Children like

fruit juices

dont they? Well the pineapple and paw paw juice supply the enzymes.

There is nothing wrong with taking Phytobears and Seasilver, but I would

definetely

NOT rely on them to stop cancer. They are not a part of Protocol 1.

The topical Cansema cream, I have heard, is very good for skin cancers. I

know people

who easily removed many skin cancers with this cream.

But I have not investigated Cansema liquid, which has a very low Ph, and I

know of

know proof it works against cancer.

moonbeam

> 1) PHYTOBEARS -- Especially designed for children, Phytobears

> contain 26 essential vitamins, minerals and other vital

> nutrients, in a base made from 30 different fruits and

> vegetables.

>

> http://www.mannapages.com/ShopNow/PRDHome.asp?CountryCodeID=1 & sMainMenu=Sh

> opNow & sMain2Menu=ProductList & sSubMenu=Products & sSubMenuItem=na

>

> 2) SEASILVER -- Children take liquids easier than pills, and

> SeaSilver is mild-tasting. It contains Aloe vera, Sea Plants,

> Cleansers, etc. -- All the nutrients known to be vital to man.

>

> http://www.seasilver.com/

> (click " Our Products " & " ingredients " )

>

> 3) CANSEMA III. A Known Cancer Fighter. Although it's bitter,

> it could probably be put in Juice. You use several drops from

> an eyedropper-type bottle.

>

> http://www.altcancer.com/ct3.htm

>

> 4) CLEANSING -- A good place for a child & parent to go. There

> are trees, and animals. The owner of the website is a cancer

> survivor, and she will teach you a lifestyle of healthy living.

>

> (TOXINS are the cause of many cancers. In treating diseases, Dr.

> 's adamant about getting toxins and parasites out of your

> body.)

>

> http://www.hsu.com/

>

> There are lots of others, I mentioned them before, but this is a

> starter.

>

> Joy

>

> To prtect against cancer-causing free radicals, don't forget

> antioxidants (see Pycnogenol, Q10, Vitamin C...).

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> > cures for cancer

> >From: fradcat@...

> >Date sent: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:09:50 EDT

> >Send reply to: cures for cancer

> >Subject: 3 1/2 yr old w/ leukemia...

> >> I've taken Vitamin C since my cancer diagnosis two years ago. I've

> >> been cleared of cancer, but I still take the C. I took nearly 10,000

> >> mg daily throughout my treatment and now take approx. 6,000 mg. daily

> >> in the form of sodium ascorbate, as recommended by ing. I order

> >> mine from Bronson Pharmaceuticals (also recommended by ing). As for

> >> leukemia....chlorophyll!!! It's so simple and so important.

> >> Wheatgrass, barleygrass, etc. Cleanse that bloodstream and all else

> >> will follow suit.

> >

> > Hi,

> > If this was my child this is what I would do.

> > First I would weigh myself and then weigh the child and work out what

> > percentage of my

> >weight the child was. I would then divide all the amounts of products

> >below by this ratio and give them to my child. Perhaps I would omitt

> >selenium as the health authorities say selenium is not suitable for

> >children.

> >

> > The oxygen bath would be exactly the same as for an adult, 10 to 15

> > minutes twice a day.

> >

> > I would also get some objective assesment of advancement of the

> > disease, tumor marker

> >counts or similar, in order that I could try and objectively monitor

> >progression or remmision of the cancer.

> >

> > I would implement Protocol 1 and monitor tumor markers for several

> > months, if after

> >four months on Protocol 1, there was progression of the disease instead

> >of remision, I would consider low dose chemo or whatever the conventional

> >medicine suggested, but I would still continue taking the immune boosting

> >therapy outlined in Protocol 1., as clinical trials show immune therapy

> >improves outcomes of those on chemotherapy.

> >

> > PROTOCOL 1.

> >

> > This is the basic protocol that I would use for cancer. The first

> > 10 items are the most important ones.

> >

> >1. No meat or dairy products of any kind. Meat and dairy products contain

> >xeno- estrogens and Arachdonic Acid, both of which are growth accelerants

> >for all types of cancer cells.

> >

> >2. The basic diet use a raw vegetable juice diet, with less then 30

> >percent of food cooked. The recommended juicer is a slow speed

> >macerating juicer, high-speed juices destroy he enzymes and Vitamins due

> >to the short-term high temperature spike created by the friction of a

> >high-speed juicer. Gerson therapy recommends 8 to12 glasses of homemade

> >raw vegetable juice per day. Juiced fresh pineapples (with skin left on)

> >and PawPaw (papaya) for bromelain and papayan enzymes. The enzymes remove

> >the protective coating which hides the tumor from the immune system.

> >Serrapeptase enzyme could also be used. Enzyme complex tablets.

> >

> >3. Diet to include at least two punnets of sprouts ( mung, alfalfa,

> >salad sprouts or broccoli sprouts) per day. Sprouts can also be placed

> >in the slow speed juicer. Carrots and green leafy vegetable's lycopene

> >also ideal for the juicer. The carotenes and enzymes bio-available a

> >direct anti-cancer effect.

> >

> >4. Diet to include 500 ml of V8 vegetable juice or canned (cooked)

> >tomato juice per day. The lycopene (delta carrotene) in cooked tomato

> >juice is several times more potent an anti-cancer compound then Beta

> >carotene from carrots. It is only orally active when cooked.

> >

> >5. Diet to include 1,000 micrograms of Organic form selenium per day.

> >ie,

> > L-Selenomethionine. Any other form of selenium is not bio available.

> > Selenium is synergistic with Vitamin E, so Vitamin E

> >supplementation of 1,200 international units per day is suggested.

> >Thirty fold increase in anybody cells typically follows such a selenium

> >Vitamin the combination.

> >

> >6. Diet to include to 2 or 3 grams of beta-glucan, per day, at least 40

> >minutes before food. Diet to include three grams of Vitamin C. powder,

> >three times per day. Three times a day is suggested as the kidneys remove

> >the Vitamin C. from the body after a few hours. Vitamin C. will be

> >synergistic with the beta-glucan and the selenium.

> >

> >7. Diet to include one tablespoon of cold pressed Flax Seed Oil (cold

> >pressed linseed oil). Mixed with 3/4 of a cup of cottage cheese. To be

> >taken two times per day. Research shows this dramatically increases the

> >oxygen carrying capacity of the blood. Cancer is an anaerobic disease.

> >This treatment will be synergistic with the peroxide treatment.

> >

> >8. Diet to include three heaped teaspoons of Spirulina electrically mixed

> >in juice, two or three times per day. The phycocyanin in Spirulina

> >dramatically increases production of red and white blood cells from the

> >bone marrow progenitor stems cells. Also contains 30 fold greater

> >carotene content then carrots, also rich in GLA, cystine and methionine.

> > Will help reduce nausea and immune cell depletion following

> > chemotherapy.

> >

> >9. Diet to include 20 drops of stabilized oxygen. Starting at two drops

> >on the the first day, and adding one drop more each day till 22 drops on

> >the day 20. This is best taken in juice to cover the flavour, can be

> >taken with juice at meal time.

> >

> >10. Peroxide Bath treatment. Add one large coffee mug of peroxide to a

> >hot, shallow Bath about one-third full, at two tablespoons of DMSO to

> >bath. Take bath twice a day for 15 minutes per time. Repeat bath in the

> >afternoon reheating bath using the immersion heater. The bath must be

> >comfortably hot. Discard water each day. Important not to get any of

> >this water in the eyes, flush eyes with freshwater if eye contact occurs.

> >Concentrated peroxide is hazardous, stored in safe place away from

> >children, avoid skin contact, flush with water if skin contact with

> >concentrate occurs.

> >

> >11. Additional beta-glucan supplementation can be obtained from Agicarus

> >Blazei mushroom extract, PSK etc, available via internet.

> >

> >12. Spirulina, beta-glucan, Vitamin C. and selenium should begin prior to

> >chemo therapy. It is suggested that taking these 4 items will also help

> >prevent any recurrence of the cancer, as well as any spread of the cancer

> >(metastasis).

> >

> >13. A beta-glucan cream can be used to prevent or reduce ulcer formation

> >at areas where radiotherapy is used.

> >

> >14. Broccoli sprouts, one punnets of broccoli sprouts per day. Contains

> >glucoraphanin the precursor to anti cancer sulforaphane.

> >

> >15. Laetrile, vitamin B17, or mygdelin therapy. Taking at least two

> >punnets of mung been or Salad sprouts per day will supply B17. Raw

> >Macadamia nuts, the kernels from inside nectarines and fresh apircot

> >kernels are good sources of B17. They must taste bitter. (Purchased

> >apricot kernels contain no B17) The cyanide in B17 acts against the

> >cancer, whereas it does not act against good cells. Broccoli sprouts also

> >contain B17. B17 tablets are a way to get a lot more B17 than by diet.

> >

> >16. No cooked food if possible, thats why the slow speed juicer is so

> >important.

> >

> >17. No processed food, no tap water, only

> >filtered water, no artificial flavorings or colourings.

> >

> > 18. No sugar.

> >

> > 19. Hypericum to keep your spirits up. Cats Claw herb daily, make into a

> > tea.

> >Ellagic acid, causes G1 mitosis arrest. (ie stops cell replication in

> >cancer cells) available via internet. (DMSO also produces reversable G1

> >cell arrest). Also for additional immune support; Astragalus, mannin from

> >Manotech, Noni Juice, Transfer Factor, grape seed extract, shark liver

> >oil, Vitamin B6.

> >

> > moonbeam

> >

> >>

> >> www.christinacooks.com is a great site. She was diagnosed w/ leukemia

> >> and refused medical treatment. She began a macrobiotic diet and is

> >> cancer free. Read the site. It's worth it.

> >>

> >> Hope this helps. )

> >>

> >> Judi

> >>

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> >> SIZE=2>I've taken Vitamin C since my cancer diagnosis two years ago.

> >> & nbsp;I've been cleared of cancer, but I still take the C. & nbsp;I

> >> took nearly 10,000 mg daily throughout my treatment and now take

> >> approx. 6,000 mg. daily in the form of sodium ascorbate, as

> >> recommended by ing. & nbsp;I order mine from Bronson

> >> Pharmaceuticals (also recommended by ing). & nbsp;Be careful w/

> >> this dose, as one must maintain these levels daily. & nbsp;It has

> >> something to do w/ the bloodstream. & nbsp;Sorry...can't remember

> >> w/out my book, but my Dr. told me the same thing. & nbsp;Keep the

> >> dose consistent, and if you have to go without for whatever reason,

> >> gradually lower and then increase when back on. As for

> >> leukemia....chlorophyll!!! & nbsp;It's so simple and so important.

> >> & nbsp; Wheatgrass, barleygrass, etc. & nbsp;Cleanse that bloodstream

> >> and all else will follow suit. www.christinacooks.com is a

> >> great site. & nbsp;She was diagnosed w/ leukemia and refused medical

> >> treatment. & nbsp;She began a macrobiotic diet and is cancer free.

> >> & nbsp; Read the site. & nbsp;It's worth it. Hope this

> >> helps. & nbsp;) Judi

> >>

> >>

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August 4, 2001

From: " Melinda Wiman " <wiman@...>

Date sent: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 23:41:28 -0700

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: Re: 3 1/2 yr old w/ leukemia...

> opinion. If you have any feedback you think I should give her about the

> clinic or Hulda's approaches, I will pass it on.

Hi,

I dont think your going to like this, but I am I do not support Hulda

s

clinic or her belief that all cancers are caused by Parasites. If it were true

that

parasites caused all cancers then obviuosly those countries where almost

everyone has

parasites, would have the highest cancer rates. But this is not the case and

those

countries with cleaner water supplies and hence less parasites, have higher

cancer rates

than those countries with more contaminated water.

Tell her not to go to Hulgas Clinic.

There is no evidence that Huldas methods work.

There is plenty of published evidence that immunotherpay works in clinical

trials.

There is no evidence that acupuncture works against cancer.

moonbeam

>

> One clinic - Mariposa Clinic in Spain feels they can help the child. Their

> website is http://www.mariposasclinic.com/. They use budwig, electro

> acupuncture, and other approaches. They have even offered to come to the

> states, if necessary, to treat the child, with all their equipment and

> everything. I don't know anyone who has gone there, but awhile back it

> was mentioned on this forum by someone. If anyone has any experience with

> this clinic or if you have heard anything about them, be sure to let us

> know. The only clinic I know of that offers a refund if you don't see any

> noticeable improvements within three (3) months or before, after following

> their therapy.

>

> Lilly's mother thanks everyone and so do I for all your input and

> suggestions.

>

> Melinda Wiman

> www.cancure.org

> Cancer Cure Foundation

> (800) 282-2873

>

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August 4, 2001

Hi, I am surprised that a person who is part of cancer care, and who just two weeks ago was helping me to find places; being a part of a big organization that for over 25 years has been helping people to find alternative cancer therapies, org. publishes literautre on different therapies and has a lisr of clinicss, and who even mentioned Mariposas clininc to me, would then go out on the web and ask for places:::I am indeed confused! perhaps we are turning in cirlcles..how come the same search was not asked for in our case? looking forward, with thanks, and in no way cyncical, too your response; Have you tried, People Against Cancer; an

org; that showed up on a few print outs of CAncercure re/ different therapies: best regds; Carolean

August 5, 2001

I have learned a lot from the people on this forum. I value their opinion. I ask people on this list for advice because the people on this forum have been using the therapies and have gone to the clinics and many have done research in areas The Cancer Cure Foundation hasn't. If you have been to our website, you will see that it only begins to touch on the tons of information that is out there. I have been the sole person answering emails and phone calls for The Cancer Cure Foundation for a few months now. I am not a doctor and I haven't visited all of the clinics. I haven't read all there is about every therapy out there. Cancer Cure's main focus until the last year was more focused on laetrile and "freedom of choice" in cancer therapy - not in the hundreds of alternative products and approaches that are out there. I can't begin tell you how much I have learned from the people on this forum.

Re. the 3 1/2 yr old - We went through many of our sources and clinics around the world and only found a few that were willing to treat a 3 1/2 year old. I contacted clinics around the world. I suggested the mother call additional clinics and other organizations because it was so hard finding someone who would treat a child as young as this. Even clinics we refer people to every day that are very successful treating all kinds of cancers were not able to help. Pediatric cancers have been the hardest for us. For example, I never did find a place for a child who had cancer cells in the eye. We just don't have that much information on pediatric cancers. The parents of the 3 1/2 year old needed a pediatric oncologist that believed in alternative approaches. People on this forum, because they are from around the world and so knowledgeable, were able to help - I was able to pass the info on to the mother.

I asked the forum about the clinics that did respond to us saying they could treat the child, like Mariposa and Hulda's so I could give the mother feedback from others besides myself. I don't believe one should ever base a decision on any one person or organization. I personally don't know anyone who has gone to Hulda 's clinic or Mariposa. People on the forum can let me know if they know of anyone who has gone to a clinic and who can tell me about their experiences there. I personally do not usually refer people to Hulda as I think it doesn't offer the range of approaches that most people need. And although we at The Cancer Cure Foundation know that positive results can be obtained using her approaches, we question the explanations of why this works. Therefore, feedback from people on this clinic can be valuable in helping decide if a therapy or clinic is worth recommending or even continuing to recommend. We will even put a therapy or clinic on a "not recommended" list if we get feedback from others indicating that it should be re-evaluated. We are not going in circles... We are trying to help each other.

No one organization can meet everyone's needs, which is why I will often recommend other organizations, consultants, and forums for people to contact. We have lists of them on our website. I usually will mention them in my emails to people. I encourage people to join this forum and ask questions here so they can get information they might not get elsewhere, even from us.

You should ask this forum what you are looking for. I wouldn't be surprised to find someone here will have the name of the herbs you are looking for. I believe I asked if you could send additional information on the herbs so that I could follow up, but I don't recall getting an email back from you, so I didn't keep my notes on what you were looking for.

I just sent you an email indicating that we now have a homeopathic practitioner as well as a person studying acupuncture and Chinese herbs on staff, so if you want to call or email us with additional details of what your needs are, we will try to do what we can to help.

Regards,

And to the people on this forum - I thank you again for all your help.

Melinda Wiman

www.cancure.org

Cancer Cure Foundation

(800) 282-2873

Re: Re: 3 1/2 yr old w/ leukemia...

Hi, I am surprised that a person who is part of cancer care, and who just two weeks ago was helping me to find places; being a part of a big organization that for over 25 years has been helping people to find alternative cancer therapies, org. publishes literautre on different therapies and has a lisr of clinicss, and who even mentioned Mariposas clininc to me, would then go out on the web and ask for places:::I am indeed confused! perhaps we are turning in cirlcles..how come the same search was not asked for in our case? looking forward, with thanks, and in no way cyncical, too your response; Have you tried, People Against Cancer; an org; that showed up on a few print outs of CAncercure re/ different therapies: best regds; Carolean Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv

August 5, 2001

Hulda does not say that all cancers are caused by parasites. What she

does say is that parasites, in combination with certain solvents that allow

the parasites to thrive in the body, causes cancer. For thousands of years,

the human body has been able to ingest parasites and pass them through

without a hitch. The problem occurs when solvents like benzene and propyl

alcohol, found in a wide variety of products in our environment, are

ingested. For a better explanation, read one of her books.

In my opinion, the beauty of Dr. 's method is her systematic removal of

solvents, parasites, pollutants, viruses, molds, etc. from the body to

revitalize the immume system and allow it to do its job in healing the body.

Kathy

In a message dated 8/4/01 5:59:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

moonbeam@... writes:

> Hi,

> I dont think your going to like this, but I am I do not support

> Hulda s

> clinic or her belief that all cancers are caused by Parasites. If it were

> true that

> parasites caused all cancers then obviuosly those countries where almost

> everyone has

> parasites, would have the highest cancer rates. But this is not the case

and

> those

> countries with cleaner water supplies and hence less parasites, have

higher

> cancer rates

> than those countries with more contaminated water.

>

> Tell her not to go to Hulgas Clinic.

> There is no evidence that Huldas methods work.

> There is plenty of published evidence that immunotherpay works in

> clinical trials.

> There is no evidence that acupuncture works against cancer.

>

> moonbeam

>

August 5, 2001

cures for cancer

From: InghamSeeker@...

Date sent: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:35:56 EDT

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: Re: Re: 3 1/2 yr old w/ leukemia...

> Hulda does not say that all cancers are caused by parasites. What

> she does say is that parasites, in combination with certain solvents that

> allow the parasites to thrive in the body, causes cancer.

> Kathy

Hi Kathy,

I am strongly opposed to Hulda and her stupid book

" The Cure

for All Cancers " . She greatly misleads people as to what causes cancer and

provides no

scinetific evidence to support her findings. Statement like " I found parasites

in all my

cancer patients " ...... therefore..... " parasites must have caused all the

cancers in my

patients " , are absolutely stupid.

We have discussed this on the list before. No evidence that the Parasites

caused

cancers is forthcoming. It is true that every one has immune disrupting and

cancer

causing chemicals in their body. No doubt about that. Dioxin is a prime example

and a

Class 1 carcinogen.

Yet she stupidly uggests that one holds a little electric machine to stop

tumors

growing. Meanwhile she omitts to mention that clinical trials with electric

probes

inserted directly into tumors showed 25% complete remmission and 50% partial

remmisison

in 8000 patients. Why did she not mention that? Was it because her son was

selling the

little electric machine?

My friend Allan followed Hudas methods and he died from cancer. That is why I

dont like

her unscientific and unproven methods.

moonbeam

>

> In a message dated 8/4/01 5:59:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> moonbeam@... writes:

> > Tell her not to go to Hulgas Clinic.

> > There is no evidence that Huldas methods work.

> > There is plenty of published evidence that immunotherpay works in

> > clinical trials.

> > There is no evidence that acupuncture works against cancer.

> >

> > moonbeam

August 6, 2001

hi, thanks for your very nice message today--had I known All that earlier; well, I might not have reacted as was the case. Once again, not enought flow of directed info? I don't know...Mariposas can supply names of patients who would testify, so I am not surre what the issue is...keep trying; I

wish I had more to say, but I amconsumed by a quickly fading parent, and other family dilemnas, so it is hard to think about others' difficulty at this point, although I wish it were otherwise; good wishes, and give the Mariposas a try, what have you got to lose? or what about the Oasis of hope that you were so enthusiastic about? Why, by the way, are you the only person at cancure? it should have been mentioned earlier...also, I lleft 2 messages mast week, unreturned...best, Carole S.

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