- From Debbie

[Guest guest]

" With 41,000 studies, if glutathione were a cure for cancer, we'd know "

Glutathione is NOT a CURE for CANCER!!! Glutathione is the part of your

cell, when functioning acts as the detoxifier and antioxidant of the cell.

Built in protection. No where in there do I read a cure. But what I do know

and understand is that part of the cure of any disease relies heavily upon

the functioning of your immune system. Those 41,000 articles refer to the

lack of, not the abundance of glutathione. And I don't believe for two

seconds that the answer is to destroy what little a person has going for

them. This can only mean cell death. You appear to have your reasons for

thinking differently and I would love to have you share them with me.

" The literature does not have all the answers. This is why I contacted you

several months ago to see if you have seen a pattern of any cancer pateints

getting well after taking Immunocal "

First of all I would like to say that I have seen in many different people

who face many different diseases or ailements be helped for having addressed

the glutathione in their body's. I have a freind who has been on the

Immunocal for three years and started taking it after immediatly being

diagnosed with MS, she has not had an attack and remains in remission for

three years now. It did not Cure her disease but it certainly gave her the

precurssors for glutathione to work, allowing her immune system to keep the

MS on the back burnner where it belongs.

I have a lady who had her breast removed and could not take the cancer

treatment drugs, her choice to go with the Immunocal, it has been over six

months and she is doing awesome. Having a quality of life is what life is

all about.

So I would have to say as an important key role to the immune system, I have

not seen anyone who has not benefitted.

And I have to say I have had the opportunity to talk to a few people who

took Immunocal for the purpose of their immune system when combatting cancer

therapy and three of these people told me that it made the chemo and in one

case radiation much more tolerable with less side effects. The one lady had

already had several bouts of chemo and knew what the side effects were like.

She took the Immunocal for her last three and had very little to no side

effects.

" Cheney MD has been having a lot of success with ImmunePro for Chronic

Fatigue "

The reason why I have enclosed the study on Chronic Fatigue a second time is

because of your mention of Cheney. has been working with Immunocal

in his clinic for two years now. And news to me that he switched. If you

access any of the links at the bottom, one will take you to an interview

done by Dr. Matzlan with Dr. Cheney using Immunocal not ImmunoPro. I would

like to know when he switched. Pretty strange for this study to include Dr.

Cheney's name if he is using a product as good as or better then Immunocal.

I would like to see the proof that you have that he endorses and uses

ImmunoPro. Muchly appreciated.

" If you don't think it is misleading, read again my list of comments re your

scientific citations that you posted to bolster Immunocal sales. "

Again I have to tell you those scientific citations were about glutathione,

Dr. Gutman's book is about Glutathione. When speaking of raising it so far

there are two ways. Drugs are natural product such as Immunocal. Since drugs

carry a high price tag with the side effects, NAC being the worst. I

actually in my files have a nine page report about the usage of NAC , Dr.

Cheney had tried to use it to raise glutathione but for a couple of people

it came with a hight price tag and he quit using it. If you have a fax and

want to read this yourself send me your fax number privatly and I will send

it to you. It is very interesting. But in alot of cases in order to raise

glutathione the drug has been used. And it works, with a price tag. Well

immunocal in its first eighteen years of research proved that it contains

the precursors necessary for Glutathione. Proved to work like the drug only

better and more safer. So it is kink of hard to talk about one without the

other. But the book is about the glutathione system and we know about it

because of the research I cited. So I didn't post to bolster Immunocal as

much as I posted to allow people to know about the glutathione in their

cells, what can happen when it doesn't function, and what can happen when it

does and ways to make it function.

If you really want to know about the track record they have with cancer then

you will have to speak with them. I don't unfortunatly get to keep a track

of everyone who is on it. I really wish I could. I like to know that these

people are well. But I am just a little nobody in a country town in Alberta

who is trying to share what I know because I do think knowing about

Glutathione and being able to make good informed choices on how to address

it is important. If I seem biased then so be it, but it is becasue of the

good I have seen it do in others as well as myself. It is amazing what the

body can do when the immune system is up and running.

I look forward to more that you have to share. The article on THC was very

interesting, and I do often appreciate what you have to say. Yes you can get

my dander when you appear to attack Dr. Bounous, but not anywhere's near

that when you discredit glutathione. To me Immunocal is simple, but the

story of glutathione is only just unraveling and I do believe our best

defence is to nursih it not destroy it. As long as we can give our bodies a

healthy immune system we can handle the treatments to actually destroy and

kill the diesease. But destroy our immune systems and well it really won't

matter if you kill the disease. When my mom died I can remember the doctor

coming to the house and crying. If her immune system hadn't caused her lungs

to give out so that she drowned in her own phlem he honestly felt they

could have beat the cancer. But she was to weak from all the destruction

done to her immune system while they tried to kill the cancer. Now I think

we can have the best of both, the drugs to kill the cancer or what ever it

is you are using and a way to substain and support your immune system

through it. Allowing the body to be on 24/7 call to detoxify and be its own

antioxidant.

I need more proof from you that this is wrong and if you have it please

share.

Be well

And nice talking to ya

> MEDIA RELEASE

>

> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE / USA & International

>

> Immunocal® Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Trials announced

>

> Montreal, June 1 2000: -- Immunotec Research Ltd. announces a multi-site

> Immunocal® Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome (CFIDS) Trial.

> The single-blind placebo controlled trial will be conducted with 75 CFIDS

> patients in Canada, the United States and United Kingdom over a 30-week

> period.

>

> Dr. Mazlen, MD, FACN, is the principal investigator. " Chronic

> Fatigue

> and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome can be a devastating disease, which is

> exacerbated by the fact that it is an under-served patient area, " says

> Mazlen. " Immunocal has demonstrated certain benefits in previous research

> *, and we look forward to verifying its efficacy within a larger patient

> cohort " .

>

> Dr. Mazlen is Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine, Department of

> Internal Medicine, variously with Divisions of Hypertension,

> Atherosclerosis

> and Metabolism and currently in Endocrinology and Metabolism at the Mount

> Sinai Medical Center and School of Medicine, New York - among many other

> appointments. He is a Fellow of the American College of Nutrition, and has

> done extensive research in the field of CFIDS **.

>

> R.E.D. Laboratories NV in Belgium will conduct several novel blood tests

> for

> the trial including in vitro measurement of RNase L (an important enzyme

> in

> the antiviral pathway), and detection of Human Herpesvirus VI (HHV-6)

> subtypes using the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR).

>

> " The impetus for this initiative arose from our initial research into the

> syndrome, " says Molson, Vice-President, Research and Development,

> Immunotec Research Ltd. " At that time we were very privileged to

> collaborate with a prominent US clinician credited with co-discovering the

> syndrome in 1992. "

>

> " We were intrigued with the data generated in this study, and feel it

> warrants further exploration, " continues Molson. " We are very pleased to

> be able to collaborate with Dr. Mazlen, whom we respect for his expertise

> and

> knowledge in the field of CFIDS, as well as his experience in overseeing

> clinical trials. "

>

> Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome is recognized as one of

> the most common chronic illnesses in the world, estimated to affect

between

> two and four million people in Europe and North America combined.

>

> " The clinical scientist who co-discovered the syndrome in 1992 was the

> first to show that glutathione depletion appears to be partly

responsible

> for

> disregulation of the immune system observed in the syndrome, " says Dr.

> Gustavo Bounous, Medical Director of Immunotec Research Ltd. " In

> addition, the drop of the intestinal mucosal barrier in the advanced

phase

> of this

> disease was also found to be related to glutathione deficiency. He showed

> that an important subset of CFIDS patients benefited from this

> glutathione-promoting whey protein diet. "

>

> The development of Immunocal was the result of studies initiated in 1978,

> by Dr. Gustavo Bounous, MD, FRCSC, career investigator of the Medical

> Research Council of Canada. While a tenured Professor at the McGill

> University

> Faculty of Medicine in Montreal, his research led to the discovery that an

> undenatured whey protein concentrate sustains glutathione levels in the

> lymphocyte therefore guaranteeing an optimal immune response ***.

>

> Immunotec Research Ltd. is a privately held corporation based in Montreal,

> Quebec, Canada. The company is engaged in research, development and

> commercialization of milk derived products. The company's flagship

> product,

> a specially prepared Whey Protein Isolate, is sold throughout the United

> States and internationally under the trademark Immunocal®; in Canada it is

> sold under the trademark HMS-90®.

>

> For further information or interviews, please contact:

> Joy , & Associates (416) 532-3211;

> jwilliams@...

> Mitch Abrahams : (212) 875-9930; tilthecure@...

> Molson, Immunotec Research Ltd.: (450) 424-9992 x 234;

> jmolson@...

>

> Additional sources of information:

> Dr. Mazlen: http://members.aol.com/rgm1/private/mazlen.htm

> * Dr. R. Mazlen/Dr. P. Cheney:

> http://users.aol.com/rgm1/private/cheney.htm

> ** Dr. P. Cheney workshop:

> http://virtualhometown.com/dfwcfids/medical/orlandows.html

> *** Dr. G. Bounous research:

>

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www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/htbin-post/Entrez/query?form=4 & db=m & term=bounous+g & disp

> max=20 & relentrezdate=No+Limit

> Chronic Fatigue and Immune Dysfunction Syndrome: www.chronicillnet.org and

>

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www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2000/05/12/ED4876

> 5.DTL

> R.E.D. Laboratories: www.redlabs.com

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