Guest guest Posted December 1, 1999 Report Share Posted December 1, 1999 Everyone is looking for the cure. I personally don't believe there is one. You talk about a cure, and yet you will not look at Gluathione and Immunocal. So how will you know if you see it, when you will not look at things in front of your face. Cell defence is the only cure we are going to find. When you can clean up the cells and allow them to function properly then and only then will you be looking at a cure. Everything goes back to our cells and there ability to function. It doesn't matter what disease you will suffer from. This we all have in common and does not make us unique in our situation from everyone else. Where as most treatments do not apply to everyone. And it is the only food source that I know that has proven itself to go into the cell and work from within, not hang around on the outside hoping to help. And it is not a cure, nor will you find one. But when the cells are allowed to function the way they were ment to, then I suppose we can call it a cure. We will always live in a challenged world, how can a cure be possible. When your car isn't working properly do you cure it, or go to the root of the problem and fix it, maintenance is the cure, but that is to easy for you to see. Cheers Debbie " joe peppe " <drpepp-@...> wrote: original article:cures for cancer/?start=4048 > What I said was a small segment of a regimen of what it's going to take. > This is not a haphazard form of eating. This is eating with a purpose. If > digestion is impaired, and 99% of America has that going on to some extent, > then no amount of eating including vitamins will effectively get into the > body's cells. That is why these clinics go after a colon cleanout and detox > first. " No disease is irreversable, however, not everyone is going to WANT > to do what it tales, especially if one is in a weakened, depressed state > with no support from family and/or friends and especially if the victim has > lost the desire. Attitude plays more than 90% of the recovery. " this > statement was taught in my Naturopathic class by R. Robbins, D.C., M.D. > The U.S. Air Force uses Dr. Robbins to come in and consult pilots because > they don't want to lose a billion dollar fighter jet in your neighborhood > due to pilots not being on top of their game. You can find Dr. Robbins at > www.wellnessclinics.com .If I had the whole picture I'd start one of those > $!0,000. per month/person clinics and electo-computer monitor/measure > scientifically at the cellular level what each dose of whatever did to a > person, feed it into a data-warehouse that would eventually record certain > patterns...and you fill in the rest. Easy - the cure for all diseases - > that's the medicine of the future. Somebody's going to do it, somebody with > a lot of money and not possessed by greed. Sure, I'd like to be a part of > that. Godspeed. drpeppe@... > > > > Re: tony L. > > > > drpeppe: > > > > Her type of cancer is not reversable. She did try to eat everything that > you > > said...and the cancer spread terribly. She has ext.SCLC . > > Eating the right foods can be good for people....but each person is > > different and therefor what works for some person won't work for another. > And > > you need to start early in life, because not all diseases are > > reversable....you just need to live with them the best you can. > > Enjoy life, don't panic through your life....it's a persons choice. > > > > God Bless, > > > > Steve > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1999 Report Share Posted December 1, 1999 It may be because " Just Tea " costs $50, in contrast to about $20 for some companies. http://www.essiacsource.com/lowest.prices.htm http://www.essiac-info.org/ (don't know about the quality for this) http://ralphmoss.com/CT32.html http://www.herbalhealer.com/essiac.html http://www.motherearthherbs.com/essiac-nhc.html On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Ginny Darby wrote: > Hi Liz...Thanks for the plug...I still get to read the messages and can > reply to anyone that I think might benefit from " Just Tea " , so " it ain't so > bad " ...I guess Mr. Hurt has his own ideosyncrasies....or maybe he is backing > another brand of essiac tea...I sent him an email apologizing for offending > him, and asking him to explain to me what the guidelines are for this site, > but he did not give me the courtesy of a reply...That was a couple of weeks > ago....God Bless! Ginny > Re: tony L. > > > >Hello, The young lady, Ginny Darby <vdarby@...> was giving away and > >selling supplies of her version of Eissac Tea, she calls hers 'My Tea'. Got > >unplugged the same as JR,she stated. He is a newspaper writer and a fellow > >with Prostate cancer who gave us daily bullitans of his course of self > >treatments with huge doses of Aspertane (which converts to > >formaldyhyde(?sp), which was not successful. I will miss them both.Liz > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1999 Report Share Posted December 1, 1999 Dear Debbie, On my 100 square foot desk is a 1 pound stack of info on Glutitione I got off the internet two years ago, I'm a believer in the necessity of Glutithione so back off that argument. Off on the shelf is 5 pounds of Immunocal information that I couldn't afford at the time but attempted to investigate by joining the company. Although the product hype was impressive the negative support from Immunotec I got was just not worth the effort. I percieved Immunotec did not want me to investigate or try to separate what was hype and what was real and quite frankly without their cooperation and a million dollar bio-chem lab of my own, I realized, after much, much effort, time and money on my part... I just had to make a decision on what the priorities God wanted me to do with this Joe Peppe body and that wasn't one of them. We all got our places God leads us in, please have respect that these endeavors and avenues are different strokes for different folks. I have more to say about Immunotec and I know Dr. Buonous busy doctoring and researching genius like he should be. I salute him, for sure. I called him and invited myself to come work for him and he said no back then, no big deal, a lot of hospitals have turned me down. I shall continue on, however in search of that lost chord of where I belong. If you push me about this subject anymore you are going to force me into some ethical politics about Immunotec " CO. " and please spare us of that, OK? If you want me to endorse Immunocal than get me in the Lab working with Dr. Buonous or in some lab that is qualified, willing and able to make unbiased studies on the product and I will need to be on salary. Otherwise as we say in America, " let's not go there " , referring to this constant challange I'm taking from you. Thank you and I love you and admire the fact that you have obviously done some homework. See that's part of the puzzle this forum allows the bunch of us to do the homework and submit what we have learned. Please do not frazzle yourself. This health subject is way big and complex just like the God who created it. I pray, Prince of Peace, Jesus, be Peace in Debbie and all of us on this website right now, thank you Father, we look to you for direction, In Your Mighty Name, Jesus.drpeppe@... Re: tony L. > > > > > > > drpeppe: > > > > > > Her type of cancer is not reversable. She did try to eat > everything that > > you > > > said...and the cancer spread terribly. She has ext.SCLC . > > > Eating the right foods can be good for people....but each person is > > > different and therefor what works for some person won't work for > another. > > And > > > you need to start early in life, because not all diseases are > > > reversable....you just need to live with them the best you can. > > > Enjoy life, don't panic through your life....it's a persons > choice. > > > > > > God Bless, > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to > unsubscribe > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > -- ChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1999 Report Share Posted December 1, 1999 Dear Joe I can respect what you say here. But the backing off must be a two way street. You don't get to ask for it or demand it unless you are willing to do so yourself. Funny thing is you talk about money and mlm being a rip off to people and yet this same company, you would expect to get paid by for the work you do. A little double standard isn't it. I probably feel the same way you do about the politics of Immunotec, but I don't take Immunocal because they immpress me. It is that 1pound stack of info on Glutathione and the five pounds of Immunocal information that sold me on the product. Certainly not the company themselves. And I guess God speaks differently to you and I, because I know over the last couple of years, I have prayed long and hard about whether I was doing the right thing. This especially happens when everyone chooses to be nagative. And I know my God answered my prayers because I am still here and I am still talking about it and I am still taking it. Nothing has changed except that I have a closer walk with my Father through prayer. In all honesty I have to tell you, my life has been hard and yet through it all God keeps taking care of me. I am so thankful we maybe given only one mother, but if your earthly father is a screw up, it is okey because our father in heaven is always there for us. It is to bad we don't always listen. So I will agree to back off you if you agree to do the same. Respect is a two way street we can learn to travel down together. Cheers Debbie " joe peppe " <drpepp-@...> wrote: original article:cures for cancer/?start=4062 > Dear Debbie, > On my 100 square foot desk is a 1 pound stack of info on Glutitione I got > off the internet two years ago, I'm a believer in the necessity of > Glutithione so back off that argument. Off on the shelf is 5 pounds of > Immunocal information that I couldn't afford at the time but attempted to > investigate by joining the company. Although the product hype was impressive > the negative support from Immunotec I got was just not worth the effort. I > percieved Immunotec did not want me to investigate or try to separate what > was hype and what was real and quite frankly without their cooperation and a > million dollar bio-chem lab of my own, I realized, after much, much effort, > time and money on my part... I just had to make a decision on what the > priorities God wanted me to do with this Joe Peppe body and that wasn't one > of them. We all got our places God leads us in, please have respect that > these endeavors and avenues are different strokes for different folks. I > have more to say about Immunotec and I know Dr. Buonous busy doctoring and > researching genius like he should be. I salute him, for sure. I called him > and invited myself to come work for him and he said no back then, no big > deal, a lot of hospitals have turned me down. I shall continue on, however > in search of that lost chord of where I belong. If you push me about this > subject anymore you are going to force me into some ethical politics about > Immunotec " CO. " and please spare us of that, OK? If you want me to endorse > Immunocal than get me in the Lab working with Dr. Buonous or in some lab > that is qualified, willing and able to make unbiased studies on the product > and I will need to be on salary. Otherwise as we say in America, " let's not > go there " , referring to this constant challange I'm taking from you. Thank > you and I love you and admire the fact that you have obviously done some > homework. See that's part of the puzzle this forum allows the bunch of us to > do the homework and submit what we have learned. Please do not frazzle > yourself. This health subject is way big and complex just like the God who > created it. I pray, Prince of Peace, Jesus, be Peace in Debbie and all of us > on this website right now, thank you Father, we look to you for direction, > In Your Mighty Name, Jesus.drpeppe@... > Re: tony L. > > > > > > > > > > drpeppe: > > > > > > > > Her type of cancer is not reversable. She did try to eat > > everything that > > > you > > > > said...and the cancer spread terribly. She has ext.SCLC . > > > > Eating the right foods can be good for people....but each person is > > > > different and therefor what works for some person won't work for > > another. > > > And > > > > you need to start early in life, because not all diseases are > > > > reversable....you just need to live with them the best you can. > > > > Enjoy life, don't panic through your life....it's a persons > > choice. > > > > > > > > God Bless, > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > ----- > > > > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to > > unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1999 Report Share Posted December 1, 1999 Sorry, this is complex situatiuon, and I'm already late for work, so I didn't devote the time for complex explanations. Yes, I like to get paid for my time at work which happens about 30% of the time in my life. We try to get that straight up front. I also learned not to sell something that I don't 100% believe in. In America we have that right for the time being, anyway. If you want me to fix Immunotec's business ethics and credability, sure, I want to get paid for it, because that's going to take some investigative time in labs for starters.. I am glad you got healed as you attribute this to Immunocal. . Talking about money makes some people uncomfortable, as adults I think we all have been burned in this department. Nevertheless money is a cool medium of exchange unless of course someone rather have the 666 on forhead or wrist. I am not against the good products in MLM that are not watered down shells of the hype.I saw a comparative list a doctor friend gave me somewhere, it was about 10 pages long. I will see if I can find it. Please excuse me if my priorities are not full time trying to be responsible to ascertain whether a MLM is for real or not. Rexall Sundowner really had me going for about 2 months, I don't know how they got so many doctors in on that swindle. Amway has a real good multi vitamin. Quick test: if it bubbles when pour a little hydrogen peroxide on it(broken open) that means it contains life and is not pulling life(calcium) out of your bones to help digest it. See, it's so complex. Shaklee used to have good formulas until they were bought out and synthetics (that take life out of your bones to use) were introduced as replacements to the originals. Optimum Complete Nutrition is great: originally developed for sports recovery, was found to be ideal in speeding up recovery in surgeries, I sell that, because I know it works and nobody badgered me with it. Pro Greens is an excellent product, I have a lot of respect for the Pines people in Kansas, etc., etc. etc. Hey Vinnie and Dr. Dan : if we didn't love you we would ignore you! Godspeed all, I have to go to work, be back after midnight. Thanks for the warning, right. Love, drpeppe@... Original Message ----- From: Debbie Hamonic <hamonicd@...> <cures for cancereGroups> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 12:52 PM Subject: Re: tony L. > Dear Joe > I can respect what you say here. But the backing off must be a two way > street. You don't get to ask for it or demand it unless you are willing > to do so yourself. Funny thing is you talk about money and mlm being a > rip off to people and yet this same company, you would expect to get > paid by for the work you do. A little double standard isn't it. I > probably feel the same way you do about the politics of Immunotec, but > I don't take Immunocal because they immpress me. It is that 1pound > stack of info on Glutathione and the five pounds of Immunocal > information that sold me on the product. Certainly not the company > themselves. And I guess God speaks differently to you and I, because I > know over the last couple of years, I have prayed long and hard about > whether I was doing the right thing. This especially happens when > everyone chooses to be nagative. And I know my God answered my prayers > because I am still here and I am still talking about it and I am still > taking it. Nothing has changed except that I have a closer walk with my > Father through prayer. In all honesty I have to tell you, my life has > been hard and yet through it all God keeps taking care of me. I am so > thankful we maybe given only one mother, but if your earthly father is > a screw up, it is okey because our father in heaven is always there for > us. It is to bad we don't always listen. So I will agree to back off > you if you agree to do the same. Respect is a two way street we can > learn to travel down together. > Cheers > Debbie > > > > " joe peppe " <drpepp-@...> wrote: > original article:cures for cancer/?start=4062 > > Dear Debbie, > > On my 100 square foot desk is a 1 pound stack of info on Glutitione I > got > > off the internet two years ago, I'm a believer in the necessity of > > Glutithione so back off that argument. Off on the shelf is 5 pounds of > > Immunocal information that I couldn't afford at the time but > attempted to > > investigate by joining the company. Although the product hype was > impressive > > the negative support from Immunotec I got was just not worth the > effort. I > > percieved Immunotec did not want me to investigate or try to separate > what > > was hype and what was real and quite frankly without their > cooperation and a > > million dollar bio-chem lab of my own, I realized, after much, much > effort, > > time and money on my part... I just had to make a decision on what the > > priorities God wanted me to do with this Joe Peppe body and that > wasn't one > > of them. We all got our places God leads us in, please have respect > that > > these endeavors and avenues are different strokes for different > folks. I > > have more to say about Immunotec and I know Dr. Buonous busy > doctoring and > > researching genius like he should be. I salute him, for sure. I > called him > > and invited myself to come work for him and he said no back then, no > big > > deal, a lot of hospitals have turned me down. I shall continue on, > however > > in search of that lost chord of where I belong. If you push me about > this > > subject anymore you are going to force me into some ethical politics > about > > Immunotec " CO. " and please spare us of that, OK? If you want me to > endorse > > Immunocal than get me in the Lab working with Dr. Buonous or in some > lab > > that is qualified, willing and able to make unbiased studies on the > product > > and I will need to be on salary. Otherwise as we say in America, " > let's not > > go there " , referring to this constant challange I'm taking from you. > Thank > > you and I love you and admire the fact that you have obviously done > some > > homework. See that's part of the puzzle this forum allows the bunch > of us to > > do the homework and submit what we have learned. Please do not frazzle > > yourself. This health subject is way big and complex just like the > God who > > created it. I pray, Prince of Peace, Jesus, be Peace in Debbie and > all of us > > on this website right now, thank you Father, we look to you for > direction, > > In Your Mighty Name, Jesus.drpeppe@... > > Re: tony L. > > > > > > > > > > > > > drpeppe: > > > > > > > > > > Her type of cancer is not reversable. She did try to eat > > > everything that > > > > you > > > > > said...and the cancer spread terribly. She has ext.SCLC . > > > > > Eating the right foods can be good for people....but each > person is > > > > > different and therefor what works for some person won't work for > > > another. > > > > And > > > > > you need to start early in life, because not all diseases are > > > > > reversable....you just need to live with them the best you can. > > > > > Enjoy life, don't panic through your life....it's a persons > > > choice. > > > > > > > > > > God Bless, > > > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > ----- > > > > > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to > > > unsubscribe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to > unsubscribe > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Check out your group's private Chat room > -- ChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1999 Report Share Posted December 1, 1999 Good heavens, Debbie: I guess I shouldn't drink my well water, drive my car, eat meat, drink coffee, eat processed foods from the grocery store, etc. Bless you for your intent, but how can I live? Love to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1999 Report Share Posted December 1, 1999 Let me tell you something about living with a disease the best you can. At one point in my life I used to drink alcohol, smoke, eat proceesed and unprocessed foods, party with the best, used blinders and had tunal vision, developed high blood pressure, did not listen to my body when it was tired and had stressful circumstances. Now I only eat veggies, grains, fruits, beans, home made bread, vitamins and food supplements. I hope to live another 60 years study and research cancer and help as people as possible change their life styles. There are many testimonials which indicate that people started late in life to correct a disease and have been successful. Life has many options. Don't rule out the alternatives. If you think you cann't change, you will not. If you think there is no hope, there is none. Hope is a way of life. Do not give up. When I accepted Jesus as my savior and ask God to forgive me of my sins, hope came back to me. I pray you will see the light. A prostate cancer patient. Norvil CWonders60@... wrote: drpeppe: Her type of cancer is not reversable. She did try to eat everything that you said...and the cancer spread terribly. She has ext.SCLC . Eating the right foods can be good for people....but each person is different and therefor what works for some person won't work for another. And you need to start early in life, because not all diseases are reversable....you just need to live with them the best you can. Enjoy life, don't panic through your life....it's a persons choice. God Bless, Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Talk to your group with your own voice! -- VoiceChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 1999 Report Share Posted December 1, 1999 Exactly my setiments. That is why I think it is so great to have this opprotunity for prevention as well as being able to fight the disease we may have already. I used to feel threatened, I honestly don't anymore. I get to make allot better choices through good knowledge and through the choices I have made I feel like I have protected myself as best as I can. Which was a sight better then I used to be, it has been a learning experience and still is. Debbie pburk372-@... wrote: original article:cures for cancer/?start=4081 > Good heavens, Debbie: I guess I shouldn't drink my well water, drive my car, > eat meat, drink coffee, eat processed foods from the grocery store, etc. > Bless you for your intent, but how can I live? > Love to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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