Re: Laetrile/Apricot Kernnels

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I took 4 or 5 apricot kernnels (Laetrile) as a preventive and developed an

intestinal upset. 20 per day seems to be the max. Does anyone know if

these should be taken with food, etc.??

Carol fr NJ

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Hello, all I know is B17 is suppose to destroy cancer tumors. It is also

arsenic, a poisonous compound. Some folks, who ate them by the handfuls,

killed themselves. Sometimes less is better. Liz

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>I took 4 or 5 apricot kernnels (Laetrile) as a preventive and developed an

>intestinal upset. 20 per day seems to be the max. Does anyone know if

>these should be taken with food, etc.??

>Carol fr NJ

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[Guest guest]

,

I think that you may find that no one was ever able to actually produce the

bodies or state exactly who it was that died and the belief is that it was a

story bandied about by the FDA and others who had (have) an alternate

purpose in refuting the claims about B17. Taken from Griffen's book " World

Without Cancer " , Doctor Ernst J Krebs suggests that a minimum level of fifty

milligrams of B17 per day for a normal healthy adult. There are cases

reported where people ate eighty five to one hundred apricot kernels each

day with no ill effects.

It is worth noting that while the enzyme rhodanese protects most of the

population from the effects of the cyanide (trophoblast or malignant cells

do not have the rhodanese enzyme, thus making them susceptible to the

cyanide) some of the population do not have high levels of this saving

enzyme in their normal cell structure thus making them susceptible to ill

effects from B17 - unfortunately.

By the way, as a matter of interest, the initial story of poisoning from

cyanide attributed to B17 was run on September 4 in the Los Angeles Examiner

followed by the New York Times six days later. Another case of the FDA

subjecting a " cure " to obscurity?

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>>I took 4 or 5 apricot kernnels (Laetrile) as a preventive and developed

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>>intestinal upset. 20 per day seems to be the max. Does anyone know if

>>these should be taken with food, etc.??

>>Carol fr NJ

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[Guest guest]

Carol,

The active ingredient in apricot kernels is really a form of cyanide. I

think 20 a day as a preventative is too much. I think the usual amount is

about 4 a day.

Rosy

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Liz,

The compound in apricot kernels is cyanide, not arsenic. But whatever your

poison, this is not something where more is better.

Rosy

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Carol,

I have mince apricot kernels through our Champion Juicer and then add them

to the (cold) food that we eat. I don't heat them although I cannot

remember if heating has a detrimental effect on the content of B17 or not.

We use about the same number of kernels each day as we would have been able

to eat using the whole fruit (I trust that makes sense). We also use cold

pressed apricot oil in just about everything -even the bread I make.

. A.

Re: Laetrile/Apricot Kernnels

>I took 4 or 5 apricot kernnels (Laetrile) as a preventive and developed an

>intestinal upset. 20 per day seems to be the max. Does anyone know if

>these should be taken with food, etc.??

>Carol fr NJ

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Rosy,

Pardon me if you already know, but did you know that asprin is twenty times

more toxic than the equivilant amount of laetrile (B17)? Amygdalin

(laetrile) has been around since the early eighteen hundreds and was only

banned after successfull use in curing cancer earlier this century. I think

the ban actually came into effect in the U.S. around the ninteen seventies

and here in Australia shortly after. (The Theraputic Goods Administration

in Australia appears to be simply an offshoot of the FDA), Professor

Emeritus of the University of California, D. Greenberg, stated that " there

is no question that pure amygdalin (laetrile) is a non-toxic compound.

Perhaps, to save the worry about apricot kernels and almonds etc.,

consumation of laetrile would be a better objective? My wife is living

proof that B17 works and another friend who had bowel cancer has been clear

now for a number of years after taking B17 for two years.

Stay well. . A.

Re: Laetrile/Apricot Kernnels

>Liz,

>The compound in apricot kernels is cyanide, not arsenic. But whatever your

>poison, this is not something where more is better.

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>Rosy

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[Guest guest]

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I have never questioned that Laetrile/Amygdalin/B17 work. I regard them as a

major weapon in the fight against cancer. On the other hand though, I don't

think I would compare it with equivalent amounts of aspirin, for the simple

reason you would not take aspirin in similar quantities.

I sometimes eat a couple dozen almonds at a time, not for therapeutic

purposes, but just for pleasure, without any unpleasant side effects.

It may be that pure amygdalin, as in B17 tablets, is completely non-toxic,

but I don't think that is so of apricot kernels, or bitter almonds (not your

grocery store variety) if taken in sufficient quantity. But that is true of

most medications, supplements, etc. The majority are dose dependent.

Thanks for your info.

Rosy

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the " other side " of the story about Laetrile. There are so many

incidents of the FDA distorting the facts. There was an article that was

distributed by the renowned FDA that Vit C " feeds " cancer.....does not

defend against cancer. Heaven forbid someone might help themselves by doing

something sensible like taking vitamins. It's been proven over and over

that large does of Vitamin C are harmless. I've taken as many as 3 - 4

grams per day and given them to my children with no ill effect whatsover.

Recovery was faster. Temperatures abated.

The one caution about Laetrile is on the label. No more than 4 or 5 should

be taken during a 1 hr period and no more than 20 per day.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the suggestion. Oils are more easily absorbed. I might try this

approach as well.

[Guest guest]

Thanks. Do you know how many milligrams 4 kernnels contain. I

understand 50 - 75 mgs is a good rule of thumb for treating and/or

preventing cancer.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the message on Latetrile. Many people think its poisonous.

Thanks for clearing up the matter.

[Guest guest]

Where can you obtain Amygdalin????

I''d like a less toxic alternative.

[Guest guest]

To obtain Vitamin B-17 (laetrile) and apricot kernels, go to the following

website and order from Christian Brothers. Read the success stories also.

http://www.apricotsfromgod.com/

[Guest guest]

Hullo,

G Griffen states in his book " World Without Cancer "

(www.realityzone.com) that " ...the average apricot seed grown in the United

States contains four or five milligrams of B17. But this is an average

figure and can vary by as much as a figure of six, depending on the size of

the kernel, the type of tree, the climate, and soil conditions. But using

the average figure, we can see that it would take ten to twelve apricot

kernels per day to obtain fifty milligrams of B17. "

Stay well.

.A.

Re: Laetrile/Apricot Kernnels

>Thanks. Do you know how many milligrams 4 kernnels contain. I

>understand 50 - 75 mgs is a good rule of thumb for treating and/or

>preventing cancer.

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Carol,

The latest research from Sloane-Kettering Cancer Center also shows that

Vitamin C seems to " feed " the cancer. This research is not yet conclusive,

and I certainly have no great respect for Sloane-Kettering.

However, my own observations of my many friends who have had cancer, is that

those who " stuff " themselves with vitamins, including massive doses of

Vitamin C, seem to do more poorly than those who don't. VERY

unscientific, but thought you should know.

Rosy

[Guest guest]

Jerry,

You have already done formaldehyde along with all of those other still

healthy unsuspecting souls that are using equal every day. So why worry

about a little

arsenic or cyanide?

Best Doris

Re: Laetrile/Apricot Kernnels

> Lets see: my choice is arsenic or cyanide.

> hmmm. I'll have to think about that.

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It's the other way around..the arsenic or cyanide

first then the undertaker supplies the

formaldehyde.

Jerry,

You have already done formaldehyde along with all of those other still

healthy unsuspecting souls that are using equal every day. So why worry

about a little

arsenic or cyanide?

Best Doris

Re: Laetrile/Apricot Kernnels

> Lets see: my choice is arsenic or cyanide.

> hmmm. I'll have to think about that.

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[Guest guest]

All info is welcome. All of us just have to sort thru it and try to judge

what is best in our particular case. The medical community is not working in

the patient's best interest.

[Guest guest]

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Jerry Rollins wrote:

> Lets see: my choice is arsenic or cyanide.

> hmmm. I'll have to think about that.

If you do further research, you may find that scare tactics are

intentionally done to scare people away from cancer cures. In large

quantities, certain food can be poisonous, but in the right amounts, it

is life-saving. Do a search for the following:

arsenic -- In right amounts, fights cancer.

bitter almond tree -- in right dose, shrinks cancers; now outlawed

hemp -- contains essential fatty acids is right proportions for healthy

immune system; also outlawed. (this strain of hemp is harmless)

colloidal silver -- kills pathogens; FDA PASSED LAW saying we cannot tell

the truth--that it kills microorganisms

adrenal cortex -- helps our whole body; strengthens hormone system. FDA

outlawed it this year. (imagine outlawing livers? adrenal cortex is the

part of an organ that produces DHEA, a cancer fighter)

[Guest guest]

Hi Rosie, you didnot address me directly, but I will put my 2 cents worth

of observation and experience in here. I have observed that everything in

the universe goes in cycles and I believe dis-ease cycles and the use of

beneficial 'helps' do best when cycled. When one is in the Tumor/dis-ease

'killing stage' one benefits by using the Maxium that research states

'destroys cancer tumors/cells', for example UT(University of Texas) at MD

's Cancer Institute, Houston's research stated " 7000mg Of Vitamin C

destroys cancer tumors " ....(not double blind studied yet, or reported on

yet, to my knowledge). When one cycles thru the 'cleansing/killing stage'

then one probably can lower the dosage to around 3 to 4000mg daily if one

wishes. It does no harm, you just loose it via the urine output. I read the

same research you did and I disregard those findings as being usually

weighted toward the Drug co. who sponsored the payment for the research.

Follow the money and you can get what ever results who ever paid for it

desires, is unfortunately how it works, too often.

I have suggested to many of my friends to learn muscle testing, kenesiology

& /or dowsing to varify what and when and how much, if any is indicated. of

everything I take, even the mfg source. Look up on the internet or get

books to learn this IF YOU are open to this. If not, push 'delete'button now!

It is an ancient art. Native Americans and other highly Spiritual evolved

people use 'The Staff and The Rod' to find & /or measure the value of

plants, herbs, supplement, treatments & etc and anyone can learn it.

Everything on earth has an energy, even us. In a little booklet of Hanna

Kroger's entitled " The Pendulum, The Bible and Survival " you can learn how

to do this, if it is what you choose( Hanna's Add. & Phone (1-800-225-8787)

is in " Cure For All Cancers " or on the Net under Hanna's Herbs or Southern

Herbs). Some weeks or days no supplements are needed and can be omitted, I

'rest the body' and take none every 7th day. It helps to know this. Another

excellent booklet of the late Hanna's is " CANCER,Traditional and New

Concepts " . I have mentioned at this site before, but new folks may not have

seen. Hanna's Motto is: Help Each Other, and so is mine. God Bless, Liz

At 02:00 AM 10/21/1999 EDT, you wrote:

>Carol,

>The latest research from Sloane-Kettering Cancer Center also shows that

>Vitamin C seems to " feed " the cancer. This research is not yet conclusive,

>and I certainly have no great respect for Sloane-Kettering.

>However, my own observations of my many friends who have had cancer, is that

>those who " stuff " themselves with vitamins, including massive doses of

>Vitamin C, seem to do more poorly than those who don't. VERY

>unscientific, but thought you should know.

>

>Rosy

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Hello, my name is and have been experimenting with apricot seeds.

I take 36 seeds per day. This is the maximum dose listed on the label which

the seeds were packed in.

My first meal of the day is a cereal food with I purchase in a plastic bag,

no boxes for they contain many chemicals which can leach into the food.

Now, I grind up the seeds, about 1/4 pound at a time.

I weighed the seeds before grinding and 15 of them equals about 10 gm.

I add the seeds to everything I eat, for an example, I add 10 gm of ground

seeds to my oat bran.

I use 40 gm of oatmeal (1/4 cup) and 300gm (10 oz) of orange juice. You can

use any kind of juice to your liking. I heat it just before boiling,

actually, I heat it to 150 degrees to pasturize it, not sterilize it.

I let it sit for a minute and then add 1/2 ounce of raw wheat germ, 1/2 ounce

of ground pumpkin seeds and 1/2 teaspoon of powdered vitamin C. You can use

crystalline vitamin C.

Then I add some spices and herbs, a dash of cayenne pepper, a dash of

cinnamon, a dash of turmeric, and a dash of cumin. This herbs have been

found to fight cancer.

If you don't like the taste, you can add honey, or molasses, or even maple

syrup.

Enjoy

[Guest guest]

Sorry to say a correction is needed here, for the apricot seed doesn't

contain arsenic.

The apricot seeds contains a compound known as CN or Cyanide.

From this seed is extracted laetrile, or vitamin B17 which is also called

amygdalin.

The story of and about the apricot seed is a rather interesting one.

There are people who consume this seed and are cancer free.

The US government fought the use of the seed.

The Cancer institutions have fought this seed.

The main stream medical organizations have fought against the use of this

seed.

So, this seed is very interesting to study indeed.

[Guest guest]

Hello, greetings from

I just received my 60 day supply of apricot seeds.

The supplier recommends no more than 30 kernels per day or six kernels per

hour.

[Guest guest]

Hi, , I am not advising you on your overall program. Someone who has

benefitted may do that.But I will voice an opionion on the Orange juice

with it. In ALL Nutrition teachings it says: Orange Juice (or other citric

acid juice). " drink it alone or leave it alone. " It should be taken 15

minutes from any other food or drink.Perhaps pear juice or something else

will work for you. Liz

At 12:03 PM 10/22/1999 EDT, you wrote:

>Hello, my name is and have been experimenting with apricot seeds.

>

>I take 36 seeds per day. This is the maximum dose listed on the label which

>the seeds were packed in.

>

>My first meal of the day is a cereal food with I purchase in a plastic bag,

>no boxes for they contain many chemicals which can leach into the food.

>

>Now, I grind up the seeds, about 1/4 pound at a time.

>I weighed the seeds before grinding and 15 of them equals about 10 gm.

>

>I add the seeds to everything I eat, for an example, I add 10 gm of ground

>seeds to my oat bran.

>

>I use 40 gm of oatmeal (1/4 cup) and 300gm (10 oz) of orange juice. You can

>use any kind of juice to your liking. I heat it just before boiling,

>actually, I heat it to 150 degrees to pasturize it, not sterilize it.

>

>I let it sit for a minute and then add 1/2 ounce of raw wheat germ, 1/2

ounce

>of ground pumpkin seeds and 1/2 teaspoon of powdered vitamin C. You can

use

>crystalline vitamin C.

>

>Then I add some spices and herbs, a dash of cayenne pepper, a dash of

>cinnamon, a dash of turmeric, and a dash of cumin. This herbs have been

>found to fight cancer.

>

>If you don't like the taste, you can add honey, or molasses, or even maple

>syrup.

>

>Enjoy

>

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