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Re: Your AIDS page...

>At 10:52 04.01.99 -0500, you wrote:

>>I thought I'd take a look at your web page and was somewhat surprised to

>>find that you had one on stating that the body could cure itself of AIDS.

>>

>>To the best of my knowledge, AIDS is 100% fatal and incurable - or so I've

>>been told. Do you have any concrete proof (studies, medical before and

after

>>diagnosis, etc.) that anyone who has followed this regimen and has truly

had

>>a diagnosed case of AIDS has become AIDS-free after following it?

>>

>>Thanks.

>>

>

>Hi ,

>

>I have met few years ago people who have reversed AIDS by lifestyle and

diet.

>

>I do not remember their names.

>They were stil HIV+ , but they were healthy, without symptoms, and not

dead.

>

>Some other people may have concrete proof, I do not have it.

>

>Books to read abot some cases:

> " Eat Right For Your Type " by Dr. J. D'Adamo

> " The Way of Hope " by Tom Monte

> " Healing with Whole Foods - Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition " By

> Pitchford

>

>Follow links from this page:

>http://home.sol.no/~dusan/books.html or

>

>Ask DR.DAdamo here : http://www.dadamo.com/

>Ask Pitchford here: Heartwood Institute :

>http://www.heartwoodinstitute.com/

>Ask Tom Monte here : http://www.macrobiotics.org/ki.html

>

>

>Lifestyle and diet can improwe immunity, and immunity can keep HIV under

>control.

>You have probably heard of people being more than 10 years HIV+, and not

>developing AIDS Symptoms.

>Their immunity was sufficient enough to not develope AIDS.

>

>But that is not everything.

>

>There are few cases of HIV+ in France, where husband and wife have

>unprotected Sex for many years and she is still HIV-. Also few cases of

>children born HIV- from the mothers HIV+. ???

>I have seen it on the French national TV. It was not a Joke. It was serious

>program about AIDS, and about people living with HIV+ for many years.

>

>Also, I have read about few cases of HIV+ becoming HIV-. BUT, There is

>no proof for that - doctors think that the first diagnose was mistake !?

>Maybe it wasn't !

>

>

>Dusan

>

>

>

Interview with Dr Shulze:

“To cure AIDS, its a total life style change --- not a drug or a pill.

Natural healing can cure AIDS. But if you are looking for one special

anti-viral herb to solve this disease, you’re as nuts as the doctors. How

stupid can these experts be (and the patients, too), to believe that a

single drug, a chemical on its lonesome, can cure a total body breakdown? We

don't need any more research money to cure AIDS. In case you are groggy or

dense and didn't get my point, I will repeat it: AIDS can be cured. Right

now. Forget the DNA research. Forget the emotional fund-raisers. They're not

necessary. It can also save those who are skin and bone and sores and

diarrhea. If you follow all this information, you can end up cured and

HIV-negative. Sympathy and understanding cannot cure AIDS. This information

will cure --- but only if you use it with all your heart and soul. If people

would live right, eat right, think right, use natural healing, and stop

taking all drugs, the AIDS epidemic would end.”----Sam Biser

SCHULZE: Referring back to that AIDS case we discussed on the videotapes, he

was in the hospital .He had a T-cell count of 1 or 2--- and had about a week

to live.

He was one of my most dramatic recoveries with AIDS, and the reason I say

that is that he was the most far gone. He was in the absolute, end stage --

they have that wing in the hospital where they have given up on you. You can

smoke pot and do anything you want. They had given up on him.

He was the sickest. He was just skin wrapped around bones. I've had people

with Karposi's sarcoma, and I've had people with pneumocystic lung fibrosis,

but he was one of the only ones

I had that had both lungs diseased full-blown, advanced.

BISER: He had red blotches all over his skin.

SCHULZE: All over his body. Most people --- usually it's more prevalent on

the feet.

BISER: But he had them all over?

SCHULZE: He had them on his head, his face, his arm, his chest.

BISER: Don’t you ever get scared that you, yourself could get something

from them?

SCHULZE: Again, not that I am perfect, but it's another great motivation to

take care o) myself and eat right and live a fairly clean life. But I also

feel --- I've always felt pretty impervious to this stuff. You know how it

is being an Aries.

BISER: Oh, you feel rugged

SCHULZE: I'm headstrong. I feel tough. I don't believe a lot in the germ

theory of disease. In other words, if you do get this sick, you've got to

set up an environment for it. I take very good care of myself. I also know

that orthodox medical beliefs about AIDS are wrong.

'A few years ago, I put a lot of energy out that I wanted to work with

people with full-blown AIDS. "

BISER: You put the word out?

SCHULZE: Yeah. This was mid-80's --- 1985, maybe. I wanted to let people

know that natural healing had no boundaries. AIDS certainly wasn’t a

boundary, just because it was the new thing.

I think I said that somewhere, and it was on an audio tape, and this man

heard the tape. So, I went to visit him, even though he only had one week to

live. It was like, " Wow " I thought to myself, " Maybe I got into more than I

can chew here. " He was bad. But he really believed, even in his horrible

state. He believed he could be well.

" The only reason the doctor is saying this terminal AIDS patient can't leave

the hospital is because he's making $1,000 a day off this guy. It's just a

money thing. "

BISER: What did you do immediately so that he wouldn't die in one week?

SCHULZE: Got him out of the hospital. This is the hard thing because to lot

of people that I see, the doctors say 'If you leave, you'll die. "

Well, if you stay there, you're going to die, so get out of there. Nothing

can really be done in a hospital environment. They are feeding you lime

Jello. They have IV's with sugar in your arm. So, I said to his boy friend,

" They say he's dead. He doesn't want to be here. "

Everybody is so alien to this thought of dying at home. For Americans, it's

so unusual. I said, " Let's get him the hell out of here. " I said, " Just

getting him home would stimulate his immune system. " And so his boyfriend

agreed.

I had to get an ambulance service to pull this off, because the doctor sits

there saying, " No, I don't want to release him. "

BISER: So, you got the release.

SCHULZE: Yeah. You didn't even have to get a release. Anybody in this

country has the right to pull the plug and walk the hell out of a hospital.

I called an ambulance service with some big sumo wrestler-type guys, and

they just came and had an argument with the doctor myself. I said He wants

to go home and that's where he's going.

So, we got him home and went the whole route. They had to get a juicer; they

didn't have a juicer. We got a juicer on the way home. This guy really

became a juice fanatic. Some people do. They drink it, and they feel it,

they love it. And I then we did a lot, obviously

BISER: By the middle of the next day he was heavy into it?

SCHULZE: Not even the middle of the next day. We got him out right then. It

wasn't even the next day We got him out right away He was out of there. They

picked up the juicer. I went over to their place that night, got them going

the juicer --- the whole program.

'juice-fasting is like a blood transfusion for sick patients who are wasting

away to death. "

BISER: Did he start the herbs that day too?

SCHULZE: The first is juice-fasting. That's what I start out heavy with. And

then, over the next couple of days, we started into heavy doses of

immune-boosting herbs the echinacea. He was doing about 10 dropperfuls a

day of echinacea tincture, but also echinacea root tea.

BISER: How much echinacea root tea?

SCHULZE: I’d say about 4 to 6 cups a day, whatever we could keep down him.

You can't get a lot in.

BISER: You knew you might only have a week to make a turnaround

SCHULZE: Absolutely. When people are this thin, they tend to not be able to

take much in their stomach That's where the tinctures come in really nice,

because you don't have to consume a large volume.

We had him on the teas, we had him on the detoxes, liver flushes,

bowel-cleansing. We were doing a lot of enemas because his bowel wasn’t

working at all.

I also did heavy bowel-cleansing to stop the constipation and diarrhea.

There wasn't much coming out. There was very dark, hard material, you know

just like chunks of debris. They had him on some pain stuff, and that

stopped his bowels. One thing that was important with him was the juices

really boosted him up.

BISER: What kind of juices?

SCHULZE: One of my favorites, and we used this with him, is carrot,

beetroot and beet leaf.

BISER: A mixture of those three?

SCHULZE: Like 50% carrot and 25% beet root and 25% beet leaf. I remember his

blood count was very low We got his blood count normalized in 3 days. Not

his T-cells, but his red blood cells. His hemoglobin count was very low

BISER: What did his boyfriend think when, in three days, his blood count was

going to normal?

SCHULZE: He was just thrilled. His hemoglobin count had been down very low

at the bottom of the level. He had been white and pasty and weak. The blood

count was so low you could almost see through him.

In three days, his blood count was almost over the top. And his coloor was

back, and he had lots of energy I got the two of them some books on juices,

and their juicer was running all the time.

Most of the cancer, the Karposi's sarcoma, is just blotchy but there were

some areas where he had some horrible skin; and there was even some

elimination coming out of it. So, we did a lot of drawing stuff on that to

clear him out.

BISER: Poke root poultices

SCHULZE: Yes, and a lot of skin-brushing. Whenever people have cancer, I

always use that same black drawing poultice with the clay, the charcoal,

poke root, garlic, goldenseal and just try to disinfect -- burn a little and

get it out.

Then we started working with the lungs because he had 50) many things going

on. But this guy became an absolute raging fanatic --- you almost know it

when people are going to get well. They just get so positive. And this guy

really got into it.

He was buying more books on it. And then I had him getting up out of bed,

probably in a week, and doing the juicing himself. That's important too.

BISER: Within the week, he was not dead?

SCHULZE: Within a week, he was up, standing in the kitchen, holding on to

the counter a little bit, wheezing and juicing. We went through a lot of

blood-building juices. He got into mushrooms a lot, you know,

immune-stimulating mushrooms and fungi. He had some pretty bad thrush too,

and we dealt with that. His mouth hurt a lot. In fact, the juices were quite

painful to drink because his mouth was so full o)f sores.

BISER: Did you ever do what Dr did for the mouth oak bark?

SCHULZE: You can, and that works really nice. But the tea tree oil works

even better, and it soothes and heals thrush in a 2-10% solution. One o)f

the best brands is called Thursday Plantation. It's in all the health food

stores. It's excellent. Another source is from Frontier Herbs. (These are

listed in our Appendix on Sources.

BISER: How much did he take and in what form?

SCHULZE: We made a gargle out of it. They didn't have any products back

then, so we just made a gargle out of tea tree oil, and a mouthwash, and

rinsed his mouth with it. It really destroys the fungus andi also reduces

the inflammation.

But the oak bark works really nice, too. In fact, I usually ---for people

like that, I make some kind of tooth powder, and I know I did for him. And

it would have contained oak bark.

" He was cured in eight months, but relapsed slightly almost two years later

when he went off his programs. "

BISER: Asyon told me, eight months later he walks znto your office a cured

man?

SCHULZE: Abso)lutely When he go)t stro~ng, it was like the stuff jumped o~ut

o~f his bo~dy. And, o)f co~urse ---- we think o)f AIDS as a disease, but it

really isn't. It's just the combinatio~n of diseases that happens when y(~ur

immune system gets depressed.

You build up your immune system and.. oh, and this guy ended up no)t even

testing HIV positive. I almost forgot that. It's supposed to be impossible,

but then, in the last 5 years, I've heard of hundreds of cases like that.

In other words, he got so well they couldn't even find the antibody for HIV

in him. And that's how you know that a lot of the information out there is

garbage. For example, 5% of AIDS cases today don't test HIV-positive.

His lung fibrosis went away, but there was always some scar tissue in there.

His lungs were never 100%, but they could have been if he had done more work

in that direction.

But I do remember that a couple of years after, he had a slip, and

this is quite common. And his T-cell count started going down. He had a

relapse and, o)f course, he had gone off his program. He got back onto a

program, and everything went back to healthy

I had a woman patient who had breast cancer with a malignant tumor,

golf-ball size. Got rid of it through natural healing, and she had a lump

come back in her breast about 10 times probably every year. When I call

her, and she goes back on her program, it goes away. So, it's very common

that people, once they feel...

BISER: They celebrate

" There is life after the incurables program, and it's not back to the

life-style that got you in trouble. "

SCHULZE: Absolutely I'm not saying that they can't have a Saturday night 5

times a year or something. I'm just saying that isn't what they do). The

programs just start lessening and lessening, and the next thing you know,

they have slipped back into their old ways.

He had a few minor relapses again, which I almost see with every patient.

It's almost like you could count on this.

BISER: Now the relapses are not inevitable. They're caused by going back on

junk?

SCHULZE: Yeah. And everybody seems to have it at some point. You know what

happens is, obviously you get to a point where you go, " Well gosh, if I've

got to stay on this program, maybe I don't want to) live. "

It's someone's birthday so I'll have a little bit d)f this cheesecake and a

little piece of chicken. And, you know there's no big deal about that. But

then it happens again the next week, and the week after, and then it's

two-days-a-week and then it's three-days-a-week.

Over a year or two, a person's diet has gotten very sloppy And usually it

happens the second year, and then I get the call, " My disease wasn't gone,

it's back. "

People have to realize you need to adopt a new healthy life-style for the

rest of your life. This is not a program to be chucked when you get well.

If we bombard our bodies with so much crap, something is going to go wrong

with us. In immunology you learn that the primary function of the human body

is to survive. That's what it is constantly doing. But you have to give it

the natural methods that it needs.

Red clover for the skin cancers of AIDS.

SCHULZE: I had an older AIDS patient, a man in his late 40's with no problem

with his lungs. He wasn't a smoker either. He did have the Karposi's

sarcoma, but only on his feet and ankles.

But that's usually where it starts. He had a T-cell count down there. We're

looking at, I think at one point it was 100, which isn't uncommon with AIDS

patients.

And, of course, once his T-cell count hit 100, that's when he started having

the Karposi's sarcoma. The red blotches came out about grape-size all over

the bottom of his feet on his ankles. He might have had one or two on his

arms, but primarily on his feet.

He was a writer - wrote novels and some poetry. He was pretty much ready to

give up. All these people who come to see me just want to know if they can

get their digestion better, because they are having diarrhea and this and

that.

After I overwhelm them for two hours in my office, they believe they have a

chance.

But none of them ever have an idea of really beating it. I would love to get

some people with AIDS who really want to beat the disease.

BISER: But that is not what they want from you?

SCHULZE: No, they just want to feel comfortable; because everybody has told

them, including all o)f their friends, that they are dead.

SCHULZE: They were not trying, but he was. I thought that he was a pretty

healthy guy He wasn't one o)f these wasted-away ones

BISER: So you helped this guy right?

SCHULZE: Yea, but he did have the Karposi's sarcoma cancer which is

considered a malignant cancer. He had some meat on his bones. He was also in

a monogamous relationship.

I'm not so sure if he contracted AIDS because of his homosexual activity on

the sidle, o)r maybe he did some intravenous drugs. I wasn't so sure about

how; maybe an occasional weekend in a bath ho)use --- but he did something

that dropped his immune system.

BISER: Did this guy get rid of this Karposi's sarcoma?

SCHULZE: Absolutely A complete turnaround. I'm going to say it was about

eight months before he didn't have a blotch on his body And, of course, we

also) treated that externally. We did a few kind of odd things with him. Red

clover. I'm a big fan of red clover, topically, when you are talking about

skin cancers.

BISER: Red clover what? Like a paste?

SCHULZE: You can make it into a paste in a blender with the poke root you

can take the red clover blossoms, just fresh or dried, and put them right in

your blender with anything else you'd want to put on it.

Also, I'm sure it would have been slippery elm, a little bit of garlic;

because I didn't want to burn his skin, but I wanted some garlic in there,

and apple cider vinegar, charcoal and bloodroot.

BISER: Not even poke root?

SCHULZE: Oh yes, poke root. And poke root, if it's fresh, will burn through

the skin similar to garlic. Dried poke root won't do that. It's a lot less

volatile. I didn't want to burn this off, because it's just like purple

bruises. It's not like there is something there like a wart. But I wanted

some garlic and I used dried poke root. The red clover is so brilliant for

skin cancers.

BISER: You mean sometimes you will use it by itself?

SCHULZE: Oh yea, in Dr. 's boo)k, School of Natural Healing,

there are cancer plasters.

BISER: What does plaster mean, just a concentrate?

SCHULZE: Yea, I think he talks about simmering down red clover blossom heads

similar to the hawthorn berry tonic. We end up with a syrup of red clover

and you spread that on the skin.

Nowadays, what we might do instead are cold extracts like tinctures where

you are concentrating by extracting. But what I usually do rather have

someone use something over a long period of time. So, you can just take

fresh red clover heads, put them in a blender, add a little bit of vinegar,

a little bit of slippery elm or if you want to draw, use clay And just a

little bit of garlic, like a clove of garlic.

I know I am not giving you a total recipe here, but it's one of those

things...

BISER: Yea, I know, you mix it up on the fly

SCHULZE: You blend that up, and you have yourself a paste, and it's like a

reddish-brown because of the red clover. It adheres right to the skin

because you put the slippery elm in there to hold it together.

We would pack his feet in that at night, and just get it right over that

cancer. Although cancer is systemic, when you have cancer that you can see

on the body, why not treat it right on top?

We packed his feet in that at night. He did the whole incurables routine. He

got better, he got stronger, his T-cell count kept going up and up. One

thing that people need to know here, too, is: T- cell counts don't go from

150 to 1500 on a steady line.

I mean, sometimes he tested, and it would be like 275 and the next time 230.

He'd get depressed, and I'd have to tell these people. " Come on, this is

ridiculous. You're heading uphill. "

There are bumps. It's like a jagged line, but your direction overall is

uphill. I have to remind a lot of people with degenerative disease of that

one. I have to kick their butts. He'd have like a (~ne or two degree slip in

his T-cell and he thought that was meaningful or he was getting worse or

whatever.

His T-cell count started going up and up. He wanted to give up on his feet,

because they weren't changing that much. But then sure enough, slowly he got

better and better. His T-cell count kind of normalized at about 1200, which

isn't necessarily optimum.

He didn't know what his was before he got sick, anyway. That could have been

normal for him. I feel that anybody who gets AIDS unless they have had a

horrendous life-style, probably has a weak immune-type body.

Immune types will walk out in public, someone will sneeze and they are

HIV-positive. I really believe that. They are susceptible to everything.

Because their weakness is in their immune system, in their lymphatic system.

All cancer blotches went away and they said it's gone into remission. He was

as cured as long as he follows the program.

" These methods have saved people who looked like they could have been a dead

corpse in a wheelbarrow at a concentration camp. "

BISER: have you had many people who were skin and bones?

SCHULZE: Absolutely I think probably half my patients have been skin and

bones types. They took off their shirts to show me a spot, and it was like,

" Put your shirt back on. " They had depressions between the ribs. You could

put your fingers in the ruts between the ribs.

BISER: Tcell counts of what?

SCHULZE: My lowest, I think I told you was 2 and 1; it fluctuated. They said

they saw a court o 1. I've had numerous cases down in the 25-30 range. And

I've had them where they looked like... have you ever seen the pictures

right after the Americans went into the concentration camps, where they

would pick up the dead bodies? They put them in wheelbarrows. Well, a lot of

my patients looked like they put A' vacuum inside them and it sucked

everything in.

BISER: And you pulled them out of that?

SCHULZE: Absolutely. One problem is that they are not assimilating. They are

so ill. How do you cope with their problems? The first thing is a juicer.

They have got to get a juicer.

BISER: And they are not doing that already when they come to you? SCHULZE:

Oh, God no.

BISER: You mean, all this holistic information is floating around the

underground and they are not doing that?

SCHULZE: I know it's shocking. It really is. Our rules at the clinic have

always been, if you are called an incurable and if you don't buy a juicer,

we won't even see you again. I won't work with them, period. That is one of

our basic criteria.

You look at a person like these Jews from the concentration camps. You

think, " Well, if I tell them to eat fatty foods, it will fatten them up. "

But they can't assimilate it.

The only thing they are going to assimilate is the most basic food and

that's juices and herbal drinks.

BISER: Have you seen some of those skin and bones come back all the way?

SCHULZE: Absolutely But these people usually have diarrhea.

BISER: How do you stop the diarrhea?

SCHULZE: Getting healthy Sometimes we use the intestinal formula number two

to solidify it just to make them feel a little bit better, and to soothe and

detoxify the bowel. Basically getting their immune system working again will

fix the diarrhea.

A lot of people think, " I don't want to drink juices; I have diarrhea, and I

need fat in my diet. " They are eating hamburgers o~r something. What we have

to tell them is, " Look, you are not assimilating anything. "

BISER: You can eat it, but you can't assimilate it!

SCHULZE: But you will assimilate these juices. Boy, do they brighten up on

the juices. And then, once they are clean, and they do some bowel cleansing

or whatever, they start assimilating, and then you get them on high-fat

foods like avocados, sesame tahini, nut butters, whole grain bread, and

olive oil.

BISER: But that's a long way off

SCHULZE: Yea, it is. The juices come first.

The cold sheet treatment must be done by AIDS victims.

SCHULZE: All AIDS victims need this hydrotherapy. It is mandatory not

optional.

My wife, who was not ill, still claims that it was the turning point in her

life because she had volunteered in class to do it. The treatment

was metamorphosis for her. It was like coming out of the cocoon for her

physically But it does a lot more than that.

Everybody today has some psychological problems, maybe from their childhood,

and the cold sheet treatment can release these. Emotional healing is part of

the program, especially for people with AIDS. We need t do anything to

liberate the immune system. So, don't underestimate what goes on during this

cold sheet treatment. It's physical, emotional, spiritual, psychic, and It's

powerful.

'A common denominator of AIDS is they hate their lives. "

SCHULZE: The common denominator I found in most people with AIDS, now, I'm

not talking about the rare case of the hemophiliac they're at a blood risk

is that they hated themselves.

They hated their lives. They thought because they were homosexual, they were

going to hell and burn for eternity I mean, you can imagine what went on in

their minds. They were immune risks.

I had on file patient ---- a man who used to go to the bath houses and have

oral sex with 12-15 men in a night--- swallow a pint of semen.

Let me put it this way: I have never ever seen anybody get AIDS who didn't

tell me a story of their past that didn't make me just about want to vomit.

Okay? I thought I was a pretty hip dude. I mean, I'm from the Woodstock

generation. I thought I'd been around a little bit, and when these people

come.. well, it's just too much.

Most people who get AIDS have the worst life styles. They stay up all night

long, they use massive amounts of drugs. You know, when you have multiple

sexual partners, it's an immune risk because, you know, when you have sex

with someone, whatever that someone is, you're sharing bodily fluids, and

our immune system has to eat that.

And so, if you're having 12 different partners in a night, your immune

system's blowing out. And I you know what the bottom line is, healthy people

don't get AIDS. They get sick, but they don't get AIDS.

SHULZE http://www.healthfree.com/schulze/

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Dear ,

In addition to Dusan's excellent reply, I have personally met several

completely self cured aids patients, including some 20 men, who did a

co-operative, intense oxidation regime, primarily utilizing medical ozone,

in addition to approaches such as Dusan has enumerated. Some of these men

were near death, with T cell counts of 5.

See Ed McCabe's book on Oxidation Therapies and numerous websites on

Oxidation Therapies, very common in Germany and other countries.

Larry Clapp, Ph.D., J.D.

www.prostate90.com

Author, " Prostate Health in 90 Days, Without Drugs or Surgery " , Hayhouse

9/97, currently the best selling prostate book, in 8th printing.

Re: Your AIDS page...

>

>

>>At 10:52 04.01.99 -0500, you wrote:

>>>I thought I'd take a look at your web page and was somewhat surprised to

>>>find that you had one on stating that the body could cure itself of AIDS.

>>>

>>>To the best of my knowledge, AIDS is 100% fatal and incurable - or so

I've

>>>been told. Do you have any concrete proof (studies, medical before and

>after

>>>diagnosis, etc.) that anyone who has followed this regimen and has truly

>had

>>>a diagnosed case of AIDS has become AIDS-free after following it?

>>>

>>>Thanks.

>>>

>>

>>Hi ,

>>

>>I have met few years ago people who have reversed AIDS by lifestyle and

>diet.

>>

>>I do not remember their names.

>>They were stil HIV+ , but they were healthy, without symptoms, and not

>dead.

>>

>>Some other people may have concrete proof, I do not have it.

>>

>>Books to read abot some cases:

>> " Eat Right For Your Type " by Dr. J. D'Adamo

>> " The Way of Hope " by Tom Monte

>> " Healing with Whole Foods - Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition " By

>> Pitchford

>>

>>Follow links from this page:

>>http://home.sol.no/~dusan/books.html or

>>

>>Ask DR.DAdamo here : http://www.dadamo.com/

>>Ask Pitchford here: Heartwood Institute :

>>http://www.heartwoodinstitute.com/

>>Ask Tom Monte here : http://www.macrobiotics.org/ki.html

>>

>>

>>Lifestyle and diet can improwe immunity, and immunity can keep HIV under

>>control.

>>You have probably heard of people being more than 10 years HIV+, and not

>>developing AIDS Symptoms.

>>Their immunity was sufficient enough to not develope AIDS.

>>

>>But that is not everything.

>>

>>There are few cases of HIV+ in France, where husband and wife have

>>unprotected Sex for many years and she is still HIV-. Also few cases of

>>children born HIV- from the mothers HIV+. ???

>>I have seen it on the French national TV. It was not a Joke. It was

serious

>>program about AIDS, and about people living with HIV+ for many years.

>>

>>Also, I have read about few cases of HIV+ becoming HIV-. BUT, There is

>>no proof for that - doctors think that the first diagnose was mistake !?

>>Maybe it wasn't !

>>

>>

>>Dusan

>>

>>

>>

>Interview with Dr Shulze:

>

>“To cure AIDS, its a total life style change --- not a drug or a pill.

>Natural healing can cure AIDS. But if you are looking for one special

>anti-viral herb to solve this disease, you’re as nuts as the doctors. How

>stupid can these experts be (and the patients, too), to believe that a

>single drug, a chemical on its lonesome, can cure a total body breakdown?

We

>don't need any more research money to cure AIDS. In case you are groggy or

>dense and didn't get my point, I will repeat it: AIDS can be cured. Right

>now. Forget the DNA research. Forget the emotional fund-raisers. They're

not

>necessary. It can also save those who are skin and bone and sores and

>diarrhea. If you follow all this information, you can end up cured and

>HIV-negative. Sympathy and understanding cannot cure AIDS. This information

>will cure --- but only if you use it with all your heart and soul. If

people

>would live right, eat right, think right, use natural healing, and stop

>taking all drugs, the AIDS epidemic would end.”----Sam Biser

>

>SCHULZE: Referring back to that AIDS case we discussed on the videotapes,

he

>was in the hospital .He had a T-cell count of 1 or 2--- and had about a

week

>to live.

>He was one of my most dramatic recoveries with AIDS, and the reason I say

>that is that he was the most far gone. He was in the absolute, end stage --

>they have that wing in the hospital where they have given up on you. You

can

>smoke pot and do anything you want. They had given up on him.

>

>He was the sickest. He was just skin wrapped around bones. I've had people

>with Karposi's sarcoma, and I've had people with pneumocystic lung

fibrosis,

>but he was one of the only ones

>I had that had both lungs diseased full-blown, advanced.

>

>BISER: He had red blotches all over his skin.

>

>SCHULZE: All over his body. Most people --- usually it's more prevalent on

>the feet.

>

>BISER: But he had them all over?

>

>SCHULZE: He had them on his head, his face, his arm, his chest.

>

>BISER: Don’t you ever get scared that you, yourself could get something

>from them?

>

>SCHULZE: Again, not that I am perfect, but it's another great motivation to

>take care o) myself and eat right and live a fairly clean life. But I also

>feel --- I've always felt pretty impervious to this stuff. You know how it

>is being an Aries.

>

>BISER: Oh, you feel rugged

>

>SCHULZE: I'm headstrong. I feel tough. I don't believe a lot in the germ

>theory of disease. In other words, if you do get this sick, you've got to

>set up an environment for it. I take very good care of myself. I also know

>that orthodox medical beliefs about AIDS are wrong.

>

>'A few years ago, I put a lot of energy out that I wanted to work with

>people with full-blown AIDS. "

>

>BISER: You put the word out?

>

>SCHULZE: Yeah. This was mid-80's --- 1985, maybe. I wanted to let people

>know that natural healing had no boundaries. AIDS certainly wasn’t a

>boundary, just because it was the new thing.

>

>I think I said that somewhere, and it was on an audio tape, and this man

>heard the tape. So, I went to visit him, even though he only had one week

to

>live. It was like, " Wow " I thought to myself, " Maybe I got into more than I

>can chew here. " He was bad. But he really believed, even in his horrible

>state. He believed he could be well.

>

> " The only reason the doctor is saying this terminal AIDS patient can't

leave

>the hospital is because he's making $1,000 a day off this guy. It's just a

>money thing. "

>

>BISER: What did you do immediately so that he wouldn't die in one week?

>

>SCHULZE: Got him out of the hospital. This is the hard thing because to lot

>of people that I see, the doctors say 'If you leave, you'll die. "

>

>Well, if you stay there, you're going to die, so get out of there. Nothing

>can really be done in a hospital environment. They are feeding you lime

>Jello. They have IV's with sugar in your arm. So, I said to his boy friend,

> " They say he's dead. He doesn't want to be here. "

>

>Everybody is so alien to this thought of dying at home. For Americans, it's

>so unusual. I said, " Let's get him the hell out of here. " I said, " Just

>getting him home would stimulate his immune system. " And so his boyfriend

>agreed.

>I had to get an ambulance service to pull this off, because the doctor sits

>there saying, " No, I don't want to release him. "

>

>BISER: So, you got the release.

>

>SCHULZE: Yeah. You didn't even have to get a release. Anybody in this

>country has the right to pull the plug and walk the hell out of a hospital.

>

>I called an ambulance service with some big sumo wrestler-type guys, and

>they just came and had an argument with the doctor myself. I said He wants

>to go home and that's where he's going.

>So, we got him home and went the whole route. They had to get a juicer;

they

>didn't have a juicer. We got a juicer on the way home. This guy really

>became a juice fanatic. Some people do. They drink it, and they feel it,

>they love it. And I then we did a lot, obviously

>

>BISER: By the middle of the next day he was heavy into it?

>

>SCHULZE: Not even the middle of the next day. We got him out right then. It

>wasn't even the next day We got him out right away He was out of there.

They

>picked up the juicer. I went over to their place that night, got them going

>the juicer --- the whole program.

>

>'juice-fasting is like a blood transfusion for sick patients who are

wasting

>away to death. "

>

>BISER: Did he start the herbs that day too?

>

>SCHULZE: The first is juice-fasting. That's what I start out heavy with.

And

>then, over the next couple of days, we started into heavy doses of

>immune-boosting herbs the echinacea. He was doing about 10 dropperfuls a

>day of echinacea tincture, but also echinacea root tea.

>

>BISER: How much echinacea root tea?

>

>SCHULZE: I’d say about 4 to 6 cups a day, whatever we could keep down him.

>You can't get a lot in.

>

>BISER: You knew you might only have a week to make a turnaround

>

>SCHULZE: Absolutely. When people are this thin, they tend to not be able to

>take much in their stomach That's where the tinctures come in really nice,

>because you don't have to consume a large volume.

>

>We had him on the teas, we had him on the detoxes, liver flushes,

>bowel-cleansing. We were doing a lot of enemas because his bowel wasn’t

>working at all.

>

>I also did heavy bowel-cleansing to stop the constipation and diarrhea.

>

>There wasn't much coming out. There was very dark, hard material, you know

>just like chunks of debris. They had him on some pain stuff, and that

>stopped his bowels. One thing that was important with him was the juices

>really boosted him up.

>

>BISER: What kind of juices?

>

>SCHULZE: One of my favorites, and we used this with him, is carrot,

>beetroot and beet leaf.

>

>BISER: A mixture of those three?

>

>SCHULZE: Like 50% carrot and 25% beet root and 25% beet leaf. I remember

his

>blood count was very low We got his blood count normalized in 3 days. Not

>his T-cells, but his red blood cells. His hemoglobin count was very low

>

>BISER: What did his boyfriend think when, in three days, his blood count

was

>going to normal?

>

>SCHULZE: He was just thrilled. His hemoglobin count had been down very low

>at the bottom of the level. He had been white and pasty and weak. The blood

>count was so low you could almost see through him.

>

>In three days, his blood count was almost over the top. And his coloor was

>back, and he had lots of energy I got the two of them some books on juices,

>and their juicer was running all the time.

>

>Most of the cancer, the Karposi's sarcoma, is just blotchy but there were

>some areas where he had some horrible skin; and there was even some

>elimination coming out of it. So, we did a lot of drawing stuff on that to

>clear him out.

>

>BISER: Poke root poultices

>

>SCHULZE: Yes, and a lot of skin-brushing. Whenever people have cancer, I

>always use that same black drawing poultice with the clay, the charcoal,

>poke root, garlic, goldenseal and just try to disinfect -- burn a little

and

>get it out.

>

>Then we started working with the lungs because he had 50) many things going

>on. But this guy became an absolute raging fanatic --- you almost know it

>when people are going to get well. They just get so positive. And this guy

>really got into it.

>He was buying more books on it. And then I had him getting up out of bed,

>probably in a week, and doing the juicing himself. That's important too.

>

>BISER: Within the week, he was not dead?

>

>SCHULZE: Within a week, he was up, standing in the kitchen, holding on to

>the counter a little bit, wheezing and juicing. We went through a lot of

>blood-building juices. He got into mushrooms a lot, you know,

>immune-stimulating mushrooms and fungi. He had some pretty bad thrush too,

>and we dealt with that. His mouth hurt a lot. In fact, the juices were

quite

>painful to drink because his mouth was so full o)f sores.

>

>BISER: Did you ever do what Dr did for the mouth oak bark?

>

>SCHULZE: You can, and that works really nice. But the tea tree oil works

>even better, and it soothes and heals thrush in a 2-10% solution. One o)f

>the best brands is called Thursday Plantation. It's in all the health food

>stores. It's excellent. Another source is from Frontier Herbs. (These are

>listed in our Appendix on Sources.

>

>BISER: How much did he take and in what form?

>

>SCHULZE: We made a gargle out of it. They didn't have any products back

>then, so we just made a gargle out of tea tree oil, and a mouthwash, and

>rinsed his mouth with it. It really destroys the fungus andi also reduces

>the inflammation.

>

>But the oak bark works really nice, too. In fact, I usually ---for people

>like that, I make some kind of tooth powder, and I know I did for him. And

>it would have contained oak bark.

>

> " He was cured in eight months, but relapsed slightly almost two years later

>when he went off his programs. "

>

>BISER: Asyon told me, eight months later he walks znto your office a cured

>man?

>

>SCHULZE: Abso)lutely When he go)t stro~ng, it was like the stuff jumped

o~ut

>o~f his bo~dy. And, o)f co~urse ---- we think o)f AIDS as a disease, but it

>really isn't. It's just the combinatio~n of diseases that happens when

y(~ur

>immune system gets depressed.

>

>You build up your immune system and.. oh, and this guy ended up no)t even

>testing HIV positive. I almost forgot that. It's supposed to be impossible,

>but then, in the last 5 years, I've heard of hundreds of cases like that.

>

>In other words, he got so well they couldn't even find the antibody for HIV

>in him. And that's how you know that a lot of the information out there is

>garbage. For example, 5% of AIDS cases today don't test HIV-positive.

>

>His lung fibrosis went away, but there was always some scar tissue in

there.

>His lungs were never 100%, but they could have been if he had done more

work

>in that direction.

>

>But I do remember that a couple of years after, he had a slip, and

>this is quite common. And his T-cell count started going down. He had a

>relapse and, o)f course, he had gone off his program. He got back onto a

>program, and everything went back to healthy

>

>I had a woman patient who had breast cancer with a malignant tumor,

>golf-ball size. Got rid of it through natural healing, and she had a lump

>come back in her breast about 10 times probably every year. When I call

>her, and she goes back on her program, it goes away. So, it's very common

>that people, once they feel...

>

>BISER: They celebrate

>

> " There is life after the incurables program, and it's not back to the

>life-style that got you in trouble. "

>

>SCHULZE: Absolutely I'm not saying that they can't have a Saturday night 5

>times a year or something. I'm just saying that isn't what they do). The

>programs just start lessening and lessening, and the next thing you know,

>they have slipped back into their old ways.

>

>He had a few minor relapses again, which I almost see with every patient.

>It's almost like you could count on this.

>BISER: Now the relapses are not inevitable. They're caused by going back on

>junk?

>

>SCHULZE: Yeah. And everybody seems to have it at some point. You know what

>happens is, obviously you get to a point where you go, " Well gosh, if I've

>got to stay on this program, maybe I don't want to) live. "

>

>It's someone's birthday so I'll have a little bit d)f this cheesecake and a

>little piece of chicken. And, you know there's no big deal about that. But

>then it happens again the next week, and the week after, and then it's

>two-days-a-week and then it's three-days-a-week.

>

>Over a year or two, a person's diet has gotten very sloppy And usually it

>happens the second year, and then I get the call, " My disease wasn't gone,

>it's back. "

>

>People have to realize you need to adopt a new healthy life-style for the

>rest of your life. This is not a program to be chucked when you get well.

>

>If we bombard our bodies with so much crap, something is going to go wrong

>with us. In immunology you learn that the primary function of the human

body

>is to survive. That's what it is constantly doing. But you have to give it

>the natural methods that it needs.

>

>Red clover for the skin cancers of AIDS.

>

>SCHULZE: I had an older AIDS patient, a man in his late 40's with no

problem

>with his lungs. He wasn't a smoker either. He did have the Karposi's

>sarcoma, but only on his feet and ankles.

>

>But that's usually where it starts. He had a T-cell count down there. We're

>looking at, I think at one point it was 100, which isn't uncommon with AIDS

>patients.

>

>And, of course, once his T-cell count hit 100, that's when he started

having

>the Karposi's sarcoma. The red blotches came out about grape-size all over

>the bottom of his feet on his ankles. He might have had one or two on his

>arms, but primarily on his feet.

>He was a writer - wrote novels and some poetry. He was pretty much ready to

>give up. All these people who come to see me just want to know if they can

>get their digestion better, because they are having diarrhea and this and

>that.

>

>After I overwhelm them for two hours in my office, they believe they have a

>chance.

>

>But none of them ever have an idea of really beating it. I would love to

get

>some people with AIDS who really want to beat the disease.

>

>BISER: But that is not what they want from you?

>

>SCHULZE: No, they just want to feel comfortable; because everybody has told

>them, including all o)f their friends, that they are dead.

>

>SCHULZE: They were not trying, but he was. I thought that he was a pretty

>healthy guy He wasn't one o)f these wasted-away ones

>

> BISER: So you helped this guy right?

>

>SCHULZE: Yea, but he did have the Karposi's sarcoma cancer which is

>considered a malignant cancer. He had some meat on his bones. He was also

in

>a monogamous relationship.

>

>I'm not so sure if he contracted AIDS because of his homosexual activity on

>the sidle, o)r maybe he did some intravenous drugs. I wasn't so sure about

>how; maybe an occasional weekend in a bath ho)use --- but he did something

>that dropped his immune system.

>

>BISER: Did this guy get rid of this Karposi's sarcoma?

>

>SCHULZE: Absolutely A complete turnaround. I'm going to say it was about

>eight months before he didn't have a blotch on his body And, of course, we

>also) treated that externally. We did a few kind of odd things with him.

Red

>clover. I'm a big fan of red clover, topically, when you are talking about

>skin cancers.

>

>BISER: Red clover what? Like a paste?

>

>SCHULZE: You can make it into a paste in a blender with the poke root you

>can take the red clover blossoms, just fresh or dried, and put them right

in

>your blender with anything else you'd want to put on it.

>Also, I'm sure it would have been slippery elm, a little bit of garlic;

>because I didn't want to burn his skin, but I wanted some garlic in there,

>and apple cider vinegar, charcoal and bloodroot.

>

>BISER: Not even poke root?

>

>SCHULZE: Oh yes, poke root. And poke root, if it's fresh, will burn through

>the skin similar to garlic. Dried poke root won't do that. It's a lot less

>volatile. I didn't want to burn this off, because it's just like purple

>bruises. It's not like there is something there like a wart. But I wanted

>some garlic and I used dried poke root. The red clover is so brilliant for

>skin cancers.

>

>BISER: You mean sometimes you will use it by itself?

>

>SCHULZE: Oh yea, in Dr. 's boo)k, School of Natural Healing,

>there are cancer plasters.

>

>BISER: What does plaster mean, just a concentrate?

>

>SCHULZE: Yea, I think he talks about simmering down red clover blossom

heads

>similar to the hawthorn berry tonic. We end up with a syrup of red clover

>and you spread that on the skin.

>

>Nowadays, what we might do instead are cold extracts like tinctures where

>you are concentrating by extracting. But what I usually do rather have

>someone use something over a long period of time. So, you can just take

>fresh red clover heads, put them in a blender, add a little bit of vinegar,

>a little bit of slippery elm or if you want to draw, use clay And just a

>little bit of garlic, like a clove of garlic.

>

>I know I am not giving you a total recipe here, but it's one of those

>things...

>

>BISER: Yea, I know, you mix it up on the fly

>

>SCHULZE: You blend that up, and you have yourself a paste, and it's like a

>reddish-brown because of the red clover. It adheres right to the skin

>because you put the slippery elm in there to hold it together.

>We would pack his feet in that at night, and just get it right over that

>cancer. Although cancer is systemic, when you have cancer that you can see

>on the body, why not treat it right on top?

>

>We packed his feet in that at night. He did the whole incurables routine.

He

>got better, he got stronger, his T-cell count kept going up and up. One

>thing that people need to know here, too, is: T- cell counts don't go from

>150 to 1500 on a steady line.

>I mean, sometimes he tested, and it would be like 275 and the next time

230.

>He'd get depressed, and I'd have to tell these people. " Come on, this is

>ridiculous. You're heading uphill. "

>

>There are bumps. It's like a jagged line, but your direction overall is

>uphill. I have to remind a lot of people with degenerative disease of that

>one. I have to kick their butts. He'd have like a (~ne or two degree slip

in

>his T-cell and he thought that was meaningful or he was getting worse or

>whatever.

>

>His T-cell count started going up and up. He wanted to give up on his feet,

>because they weren't changing that much. But then sure enough, slowly he

got

>better and better. His T-cell count kind of normalized at about 1200, which

>isn't necessarily optimum.

>

>He didn't know what his was before he got sick, anyway. That could have

been

>normal for him. I feel that anybody who gets AIDS unless they have had a

>horrendous life-style, probably has a weak immune-type body.

>

>Immune types will walk out in public, someone will sneeze and they are

>HIV-positive. I really believe that. They are susceptible to everything.

>Because their weakness is in their immune system, in their lymphatic

system.

>

>All cancer blotches went away and they said it's gone into remission. He

was

>as cured as long as he follows the program.

> " These methods have saved people who looked like they could have been a

dead

>corpse in a wheelbarrow at a concentration camp. "

>

>BISER: have you had many people who were skin and bones?

>

>SCHULZE: Absolutely I think probably half my patients have been skin and

>bones types. They took off their shirts to show me a spot, and it was like,

> " Put your shirt back on. " They had depressions between the ribs. You could

>put your fingers in the ruts between the ribs.

>

>BISER: Tcell counts of what?

>

>SCHULZE: My lowest, I think I told you was 2 and 1; it fluctuated. They

said

>they saw a court o 1. I've had numerous cases down in the 25-30 range. And

>I've had them where they looked like... have you ever seen the pictures

>right after the Americans went into the concentration camps, where they

>would pick up the dead bodies? They put them in wheelbarrows. Well, a lot

of

>my patients looked like they put A' vacuum inside them and it sucked

>everything in.

>

>BISER: And you pulled them out of that?

>

>SCHULZE: Absolutely. One problem is that they are not assimilating. They

are

>so ill. How do you cope with their problems? The first thing is a juicer.

>They have got to get a juicer.

>

>BISER: And they are not doing that already when they come to you? SCHULZE:

>Oh, God no.

>

>BISER: You mean, all this holistic information is floating around the

>underground and they are not doing that?

>

>SCHULZE: I know it's shocking. It really is. Our rules at the clinic have

>always been, if you are called an incurable and if you don't buy a juicer,

>we won't even see you again. I won't work with them, period. That is one of

>our basic criteria.

>You look at a person like these Jews from the concentration camps. You

>think, " Well, if I tell them to eat fatty foods, it will fatten them up. "

>But they can't assimilate it.

>

>The only thing they are going to assimilate is the most basic food and

>that's juices and herbal drinks.

>

>BISER: Have you seen some of those skin and bones come back all the way?

>

>SCHULZE: Absolutely But these people usually have diarrhea.

>

>BISER: How do you stop the diarrhea?

>

>SCHULZE: Getting healthy Sometimes we use the intestinal formula number two

>to solidify it just to make them feel a little bit better, and to soothe

and

>detoxify the bowel. Basically getting their immune system working again

will

>fix the diarrhea.

>

>A lot of people think, " I don't want to drink juices; I have diarrhea, and

I

>need fat in my diet. " They are eating hamburgers o~r something. What we

have

>to tell them is, " Look, you are not assimilating anything. "

>

>BISER: You can eat it, but you can't assimilate it!

>

>SCHULZE: But you will assimilate these juices. Boy, do they brighten up on

>the juices. And then, once they are clean, and they do some bowel cleansing

>or whatever, they start assimilating, and then you get them on high-fat

>foods like avocados, sesame tahini, nut butters, whole grain bread, and

>olive oil.

>

>BISER: But that's a long way off

>

>SCHULZE: Yea, it is. The juices come first.

>

>The cold sheet treatment must be done by AIDS victims.

>

>SCHULZE: All AIDS victims need this hydrotherapy. It is mandatory not

>optional.

>

>My wife, who was not ill, still claims that it was the turning point in her

>life because she had volunteered in class to do it. The treatment

>was metamorphosis for her. It was like coming out of the cocoon for her

>physically But it does a lot more than that.

>Everybody today has some psychological problems, maybe from their

childhood,

>and the cold sheet treatment can release these. Emotional healing is part

of

>the program, especially for people with AIDS. We need t do anything to

>liberate the immune system. So, don't underestimate what goes on during

this

>cold sheet treatment. It's physical, emotional, spiritual, psychic, and

It's

>powerful.

>

>'A common denominator of AIDS is they hate their lives. "

>

>SCHULZE: The common denominator I found in most people with AIDS, now, I'm

>not talking about the rare case of the hemophiliac they're at a blood risk

>is that they hated themselves.

>

>They hated their lives. They thought because they were homosexual, they

were

>going to hell and burn for eternity I mean, you can imagine what went on in

>their minds. They were immune risks.

>

>I had on file patient ---- a man who used to go to the bath houses and have

>oral sex with 12-15 men in a night--- swallow a pint of semen.

>

>Let me put it this way: I have never ever seen anybody get AIDS who didn't

>tell me a story of their past that didn't make me just about want to vomit.

>Okay? I thought I was a pretty hip dude. I mean, I'm from the Woodstock

>generation. I thought I'd been around a little bit, and when these people

>come.. well, it's just too much.

>

>Most people who get AIDS have the worst life styles. They stay up all night

>long, they use massive amounts of drugs. You know, when you have multiple

>sexual partners, it's an immune risk because, you know, when you have sex

>with someone, whatever that someone is, you're sharing bodily fluids, and

>our immune system has to eat that.

>

>And so, if you're having 12 different partners in a night, your immune

>system's blowing out. And I you know what the bottom line is, healthy

people

>don't get AIDS. They get sick, but they don't get AIDS.

>

>SHULZE http://www.healthfree.com/schulze/

>

>

>

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Thank you for sending that. It was very interesting reading. Did either of

these gentlemen do any type of controlled therapy programs so that they

could prove the effectiveness of their treatment in a controlled and

scientific manner? This email sounds like a transcript of a conversation

between them and seems to point to positive results that they claim that

they've had. I have to confess that I've not heard of these persons but if

they've done any empirical trials of their systems I'd sure like to read

them. Thanks.

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> Re: Your AIDS page...

>

>

> >At 10:52 04.01.99 -0500, you wrote:

> >>I thought I'd take a look at your web page and was somewhat surprised to

> >>find that you had one on stating that the body could cure itself of

> AIDS.

> >>

> >>To the best of my knowledge, AIDS is 100% fatal and incurable - or so

> I've

> >>been told. Do you have any concrete proof (studies, medical before and

> after

> >>diagnosis, etc.) that anyone who has followed this regimen and has truly

> had

> >>a diagnosed case of AIDS has become AIDS-free after following it?

> >>

> >>Thanks.

> >>

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >I have met few years ago people who have reversed AIDS by lifestyle and

> diet.

> >

> >I do not remember their names.

> >They were stil HIV+ , but they were healthy, without symptoms, and not

> dead.

> >

> >Some other people may have concrete proof, I do not have it.

> >

> >Books to read abot some cases:

> > " Eat Right For Your Type " by Dr. J. D'Adamo

> > " The Way of Hope " by Tom Monte

> > " Healing with Whole Foods - Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition " By

> > Pitchford

> >

> >Follow links from this page:

> >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/books.html or

> >

> >Ask DR.DAdamo here : http://www.dadamo.com/

> >Ask Pitchford here: Heartwood Institute :

> >http://www.heartwoodinstitute.com/

> >Ask Tom Monte here : http://www.macrobiotics.org/ki.html

> >

> >

> >Lifestyle and diet can improwe immunity, and immunity can keep HIV under

> >control.

> >You have probably heard of people being more than 10 years HIV+, and not

> >developing AIDS Symptoms.

> >Their immunity was sufficient enough to not develope AIDS.

> >

> >But that is not everything.

> >

> >There are few cases of HIV+ in France, where husband and wife have

> >unprotected Sex for many years and she is still HIV-. Also few cases of

> >children born HIV- from the mothers HIV+. ???

> >I have seen it on the French national TV. It was not a Joke. It was

> serious

> >program about AIDS, and about people living with HIV+ for many years.

> >

> >Also, I have read about few cases of HIV+ becoming HIV-. BUT, There is

> >no proof for that - doctors think that the first diagnose was mistake !?

> >Maybe it wasn't !

> >

> >

> >Dusan

> >

> >

> >

> Interview with Dr Shulze:

>

> " To cure AIDS, its a total life style change --- not a drug or a pill.

> Natural healing can cure AIDS. But if you are looking for one special

> anti-viral herb to solve this disease, you're as nuts as the doctors. How

> stupid can these experts be (and the patients, too), to believe that a

> single drug, a chemical on its lonesome, can cure a total body breakdown?

> We

> don't need any more research money to cure AIDS. In case you are groggy or

> dense and didn't get my point, I will repeat it: AIDS can be cured. Right

> now. Forget the DNA research. Forget the emotional fund-raisers. They're

> not

> necessary. It can also save those who are skin and bone and sores and

> diarrhea. If you follow all this information, you can end up cured and

> HIV-negative. Sympathy and understanding cannot cure AIDS. This

> information

> will cure --- but only if you use it with all your heart and soul. If

> people

> would live right, eat right, think right, use natural healing, and stop

> taking all drugs, the AIDS epidemic would end. " ----Sam Biser

>

> SCHULZE: Referring back to that AIDS case we discussed on the videotapes,

> he

> was in the hospital .He had a T-cell count of 1 or 2--- and had about a

> week

> to live.

> He was one of my most dramatic recoveries with AIDS, and the reason I say

> that is that he was the most far gone. He was in the absolute, end stage

> --

> they have that wing in the hospital where they have given up on you. You

> can

> smoke pot and do anything you want. They had given up on him.

>

> He was the sickest. He was just skin wrapped around bones. I've had people

> with Karposi's sarcoma, and I've had people with pneumocystic lung

> fibrosis,

> but he was one of the only ones

> I had that had both lungs diseased full-blown, advanced.

>

> BISER: He had red blotches all over his skin.

>

> SCHULZE: All over his body. Most people --- usually it's more prevalent on

> the feet.

>

> BISER: But he had them all over?

>

> SCHULZE: He had them on his head, his face, his arm, his chest.

>

> BISER: Don't you ever get scared that you, yourself could get something

> from them?

>

> SCHULZE: Again, not that I am perfect, but it's another great motivation

> to

> take care o) myself and eat right and live a fairly clean life. But I also

> feel --- I've always felt pretty impervious to this stuff. You know how it

> is being an Aries.

>

> BISER: Oh, you feel rugged

>

> SCHULZE: I'm headstrong. I feel tough. I don't believe a lot in the germ

> theory of disease. In other words, if you do get this sick, you've got to

> set up an environment for it. I take very good care of myself. I also know

> that orthodox medical beliefs about AIDS are wrong.

>

> 'A few years ago, I put a lot of energy out that I wanted to work with

> people with full-blown AIDS. "

>

> BISER: You put the word out?

>

> SCHULZE: Yeah. This was mid-80's --- 1985, maybe. I wanted to let people

> know that natural healing had no boundaries. AIDS certainly wasn't a

> boundary, just because it was the new thing.

>

> I think I said that somewhere, and it was on an audio tape, and this man

> heard the tape. So, I went to visit him, even though he only had one week

> to

> live. It was like, " Wow " I thought to myself, " Maybe I got into more than

> I

> can chew here. " He was bad. But he really believed, even in his horrible

> state. He believed he could be well.

>

> " The only reason the doctor is saying this terminal AIDS patient can't

> leave

> the hospital is because he's making $1,000 a day off this guy. It's just a

> money thing. "

>

> BISER: What did you do immediately so that he wouldn't die in one week?

>

> SCHULZE: Got him out of the hospital. This is the hard thing because to

> lot

> of people that I see, the doctors say 'If you leave, you'll die. "

>

> Well, if you stay there, you're going to die, so get out of there. Nothing

> can really be done in a hospital environment. They are feeding you lime

> Jello. They have IV's with sugar in your arm. So, I said to his boy

> friend,

> " They say he's dead. He doesn't want to be here. "

>

> Everybody is so alien to this thought of dying at home. For Americans,

> it's

> so unusual. I said, " Let's get him the hell out of here. " I said, " Just

> getting him home would stimulate his immune system. " And so his boyfriend

> agreed.

> I had to get an ambulance service to pull this off, because the doctor

> sits

> there saying, " No, I don't want to release him. "

>

> BISER: So, you got the release.

>

> SCHULZE: Yeah. You didn't even have to get a release. Anybody in this

> country has the right to pull the plug and walk the hell out of a

> hospital.

>

> I called an ambulance service with some big sumo wrestler-type guys, and

> they just came and had an argument with the doctor myself. I said He

> wants

> to go home and that's where he's going.

> So, we got him home and went the whole route. They had to get a juicer;

> they

> didn't have a juicer. We got a juicer on the way home. This guy really

> became a juice fanatic. Some people do. They drink it, and they feel it,

> they love it. And I then we did a lot, obviously

>

> BISER: By the middle of the next day he was heavy into it?

>

> SCHULZE: Not even the middle of the next day. We got him out right then.

> It

> wasn't even the next day We got him out right away He was out of there.

> They

> picked up the juicer. I went over to their place that night, got them

> going

> the juicer --- the whole program.

>

> 'juice-fasting is like a blood transfusion for sick patients who are

> wasting

> away to death. "

>

> BISER: Did he start the herbs that day too?

>

> SCHULZE: The first is juice-fasting. That's what I start out heavy with.

> And

> then, over the next couple of days, we started into heavy doses of

> immune-boosting herbs the echinacea. He was doing about 10 dropperfuls a

> day of echinacea tincture, but also echinacea root tea.

>

> BISER: How much echinacea root tea?

>

> SCHULZE: I'd say about 4 to 6 cups a day, whatever we could keep down him.

> You can't get a lot in.

>

> BISER: You knew you might only have a week to make a turnaround

>

> SCHULZE: Absolutely. When people are this thin, they tend to not be able

> to

> take much in their stomach That's where the tinctures come in really nice,

> because you don't have to consume a large volume.

>

> We had him on the teas, we had him on the detoxes, liver flushes,

> bowel-cleansing. We were doing a lot of enemas because his bowel wasn't

> working at all.

>

> I also did heavy bowel-cleansing to stop the constipation and diarrhea.

>

> There wasn't much coming out. There was very dark, hard material, you know

> just like chunks of debris. They had him on some pain stuff, and that

> stopped his bowels. One thing that was important with him was the juices

> really boosted him up.

>

> BISER: What kind of juices?

>

> SCHULZE: One of my favorites, and we used this with him, is carrot,

> beetroot and beet leaf.

>

> BISER: A mixture of those three?

>

> SCHULZE: Like 50% carrot and 25% beet root and 25% beet leaf. I remember

> his

> blood count was very low We got his blood count normalized in 3 days. Not

> his T-cells, but his red blood cells. His hemoglobin count was very low

>

> BISER: What did his boyfriend think when, in three days, his blood count

> was

> going to normal?

>

> SCHULZE: He was just thrilled. His hemoglobin count had been down very low

> at the bottom of the level. He had been white and pasty and weak. The

> blood

> count was so low you could almost see through him.

>

> In three days, his blood count was almost over the top. And his coloor was

> back, and he had lots of energy I got the two of them some books on

> juices,

> and their juicer was running all the time.

>

> Most of the cancer, the Karposi's sarcoma, is just blotchy but there were

> some areas where he had some horrible skin; and there was even some

> elimination coming out of it. So, we did a lot of drawing stuff on that to

> clear him out.

>

> BISER: Poke root poultices

>

> SCHULZE: Yes, and a lot of skin-brushing. Whenever people have cancer, I

> always use that same black drawing poultice with the clay, the charcoal,

> poke root, garlic, goldenseal and just try to disinfect -- burn a little

> and

> get it out.

>

> Then we started working with the lungs because he had 50) many things

> going

> on. But this guy became an absolute raging fanatic --- you almost know it

> when people are going to get well. They just get so positive. And this guy

> really got into it.

> He was buying more books on it. And then I had him getting up out of bed,

> probably in a week, and doing the juicing himself. That's important too.

>

> BISER: Within the week, he was not dead?

>

> SCHULZE: Within a week, he was up, standing in the kitchen, holding on to

> the counter a little bit, wheezing and juicing. We went through a lot of

> blood-building juices. He got into mushrooms a lot, you know,

> immune-stimulating mushrooms and fungi. He had some pretty bad thrush too,

> and we dealt with that. His mouth hurt a lot. In fact, the juices were

> quite

> painful to drink because his mouth was so full o)f sores.

>

> BISER: Did you ever do what Dr did for the mouth oak bark?

>

> SCHULZE: You can, and that works really nice. But the tea tree oil works

> even better, and it soothes and heals thrush in a 2-10% solution. One o)f

> the best brands is called Thursday Plantation. It's in all the health food

> stores. It's excellent. Another source is from Frontier Herbs. (These are

> listed in our Appendix on Sources.

>

> BISER: How much did he take and in what form?

>

> SCHULZE: We made a gargle out of it. They didn't have any products back

> then, so we just made a gargle out of tea tree oil, and a mouthwash, and

> rinsed his mouth with it. It really destroys the fungus andi also reduces

> the inflammation.

>

> But the oak bark works really nice, too. In fact, I usually ---for people

> like that, I make some kind of tooth powder, and I know I did for him. And

> it would have contained oak bark.

>

> " He was cured in eight months, but relapsed slightly almost two years

> later

> when he went off his programs. "

>

> BISER: Asyon told me, eight months later he walks znto your office a cured

> man?

>

> SCHULZE: Abso)lutely When he go)t stro~ng, it was like the stuff jumped

> o~ut

> o~f his bo~dy. And, o)f co~urse ---- we think o)f AIDS as a disease, but

> it

> really isn't. It's just the combinatio~n of diseases that happens when

> y(~ur

> immune system gets depressed.

>

> You build up your immune system and.. oh, and this guy ended up no)t even

> testing HIV positive. I almost forgot that. It's supposed to be

> impossible,

> but then, in the last 5 years, I've heard of hundreds of cases like that.

>

> In other words, he got so well they couldn't even find the antibody for

> HIV

> in him. And that's how you know that a lot of the information out there is

> garbage. For example, 5% of AIDS cases today don't test HIV-positive.

>

> His lung fibrosis went away, but there was always some scar tissue in

> there.

> His lungs were never 100%, but they could have been if he had done more

> work

> in that direction.

>

> But I do remember that a couple of years after, he had a slip, and

> this is quite common. And his T-cell count started going down. He had a

> relapse and, o)f course, he had gone off his program. He got back onto a

> program, and everything went back to healthy

>

> I had a woman patient who had breast cancer with a malignant tumor,

> golf-ball size. Got rid of it through natural healing, and she had a lump

> come back in her breast about 10 times probably every year. When I call

> her, and she goes back on her program, it goes away. So, it's very common

> that people, once they feel...

>

> BISER: They celebrate

>

> " There is life after the incurables program, and it's not back to the

> life-style that got you in trouble. "

>

> SCHULZE: Absolutely I'm not saying that they can't have a Saturday night 5

> times a year or something. I'm just saying that isn't what they do). The

> programs just start lessening and lessening, and the next thing you know,

> they have slipped back into their old ways.

>

> He had a few minor relapses again, which I almost see with every patient.

> It's almost like you could count on this.

> BISER: Now the relapses are not inevitable. They're caused by going back

> on

> junk?

>

> SCHULZE: Yeah. And everybody seems to have it at some point. You know what

> happens is, obviously you get to a point where you go, " Well gosh, if I've

> got to stay on this program, maybe I don't want to) live. "

>

> It's someone's birthday so I'll have a little bit d)f this cheesecake and

> a

> little piece of chicken. And, you know there's no big deal about that. But

> then it happens again the next week, and the week after, and then it's

> two-days-a-week and then it's three-days-a-week.

>

> Over a year or two, a person's diet has gotten very sloppy And usually it

> happens the second year, and then I get the call, " My disease wasn't gone,

> it's back. "

>

> People have to realize you need to adopt a new healthy life-style for the

> rest of your life. This is not a program to be chucked when you get well.

>

> If we bombard our bodies with so much crap, something is going to go wrong

> with us. In immunology you learn that the primary function of the human

> body

> is to survive. That's what it is constantly doing. But you have to give it

> the natural methods that it needs.

>

> Red clover for the skin cancers of AIDS.

>

> SCHULZE: I had an older AIDS patient, a man in his late 40's with no

> problem

> with his lungs. He wasn't a smoker either. He did have the Karposi's

> sarcoma, but only on his feet and ankles.

>

> But that's usually where it starts. He had a T-cell count down there.

> We're

> looking at, I think at one point it was 100, which isn't uncommon with

> AIDS

> patients.

>

> And, of course, once his T-cell count hit 100, that's when he started

> having

> the Karposi's sarcoma. The red blotches came out about grape-size all over

> the bottom of his feet on his ankles. He might have had one or two on his

> arms, but primarily on his feet.

> He was a writer - wrote novels and some poetry. He was pretty much ready

> to

> give up. All these people who come to see me just want to know if they can

> get their digestion better, because they are having diarrhea and this and

> that.

>

> After I overwhelm them for two hours in my office, they believe they have

> a

> chance.

>

> But none of them ever have an idea of really beating it. I would love to

> get

> some people with AIDS who really want to beat the disease.

>

> BISER: But that is not what they want from you?

>

> SCHULZE: No, they just want to feel comfortable; because everybody has

> told

> them, including all o)f their friends, that they are dead.

>

> SCHULZE: They were not trying, but he was. I thought that he was a pretty

> healthy guy He wasn't one o)f these wasted-away ones

>

> BISER: So you helped this guy right?

>

> SCHULZE: Yea, but he did have the Karposi's sarcoma cancer which is

> considered a malignant cancer. He had some meat on his bones. He was also

> in

> a monogamous relationship.

>

> I'm not so sure if he contracted AIDS because of his homosexual activity

> on

> the sidle, o)r maybe he did some intravenous drugs. I wasn't so sure about

> how; maybe an occasional weekend in a bath ho)use --- but he did something

> that dropped his immune system.

>

> BISER: Did this guy get rid of this Karposi's sarcoma?

>

> SCHULZE: Absolutely A complete turnaround. I'm going to say it was about

> eight months before he didn't have a blotch on his body And, of course, we

> also) treated that externally. We did a few kind of odd things with him.

> Red

> clover. I'm a big fan of red clover, topically, when you are talking about

> skin cancers.

>

> BISER: Red clover what? Like a paste?

>

> SCHULZE: You can make it into a paste in a blender with the poke root you

> can take the red clover blossoms, just fresh or dried, and put them right

> in

> your blender with anything else you'd want to put on it.

> Also, I'm sure it would have been slippery elm, a little bit of garlic;

> because I didn't want to burn his skin, but I wanted some garlic in there,

> and apple cider vinegar, charcoal and bloodroot.

>

> BISER: Not even poke root?

>

> SCHULZE: Oh yes, poke root. And poke root, if it's fresh, will burn

> through

> the skin similar to garlic. Dried poke root won't do that. It's a lot less

> volatile. I didn't want to burn this off, because it's just like purple

> bruises. It's not like there is something there like a wart. But I wanted

> some garlic and I used dried poke root. The red clover is so brilliant for

> skin cancers.

>

> BISER: You mean sometimes you will use it by itself?

>

> SCHULZE: Oh yea, in Dr. 's boo)k, School of Natural Healing,

> there are cancer plasters.

>

> BISER: What does plaster mean, just a concentrate?

>

> SCHULZE: Yea, I think he talks about simmering down red clover blossom

> heads

> similar to the hawthorn berry tonic. We end up with a syrup of red clover

> and you spread that on the skin.

>

> Nowadays, what we might do instead are cold extracts like tinctures where

> you are concentrating by extracting. But what I usually do rather have

> someone use something over a long period of time. So, you can just take

> fresh red clover heads, put them in a blender, add a little bit of

> vinegar,

> a little bit of slippery elm or if you want to draw, use clay And just a

> little bit of garlic, like a clove of garlic.

>

> I know I am not giving you a total recipe here, but it's one of those

> things...

>

> BISER: Yea, I know, you mix it up on the fly

>

> SCHULZE: You blend that up, and you have yourself a paste, and it's like a

> reddish-brown because of the red clover. It adheres right to the skin

> because you put the slippery elm in there to hold it together.

> We would pack his feet in that at night, and just get it right over that

> cancer. Although cancer is systemic, when you have cancer that you can see

> on the body, why not treat it right on top?

>

> We packed his feet in that at night. He did the whole incurables routine.

> He

> got better, he got stronger, his T-cell count kept going up and up. One

> thing that people need to know here, too, is: T- cell counts don't go from

> 150 to 1500 on a steady line.

> I mean, sometimes he tested, and it would be like 275 and the next time

> 230.

> He'd get depressed, and I'd have to tell these people. " Come on, this is

> ridiculous. You're heading uphill. "

>

> There are bumps. It's like a jagged line, but your direction overall is

> uphill. I have to remind a lot of people with degenerative disease of that

> one. I have to kick their butts. He'd have like a (~ne or two degree slip

> in

> his T-cell and he thought that was meaningful or he was getting worse or

> whatever.

>

> His T-cell count started going up and up. He wanted to give up on his

> feet,

> because they weren't changing that much. But then sure enough, slowly he

> got

> better and better. His T-cell count kind of normalized at about 1200,

> which

> isn't necessarily optimum.

>

> He didn't know what his was before he got sick, anyway. That could have

> been

> normal for him. I feel that anybody who gets AIDS unless they have had a

> horrendous life-style, probably has a weak immune-type body.

>

> Immune types will walk out in public, someone will sneeze and they are

> HIV-positive. I really believe that. They are susceptible to everything.

> Because their weakness is in their immune system, in their lymphatic

> system.

>

> All cancer blotches went away and they said it's gone into remission. He

> was

> as cured as long as he follows the program.

> " These methods have saved people who looked like they could have been a

> dead

> corpse in a wheelbarrow at a concentration camp. "

>

> BISER: have you had many people who were skin and bones?

>

> SCHULZE: Absolutely I think probably half my patients have been skin and

> bones types. They took off their shirts to show me a spot, and it was

> like,

> " Put your shirt back on. " They had depressions between the ribs. You could

> put your fingers in the ruts between the ribs.

>

> BISER: Tcell counts of what?

>

> SCHULZE: My lowest, I think I told you was 2 and 1; it fluctuated. They

> said

> they saw a court o 1. I've had numerous cases down in the 25-30 range. And

> I've had them where they looked like... have you ever seen the pictures

> right after the Americans went into the concentration camps, where they

> would pick up the dead bodies? They put them in wheelbarrows. Well, a lot

> of

> my patients looked like they put A' vacuum inside them and it sucked

> everything in.

>

> BISER: And you pulled them out of that?

>

> SCHULZE: Absolutely. One problem is that they are not assimilating. They

> are

> so ill. How do you cope with their problems? The first thing is a juicer.

> They have got to get a juicer.

>

> BISER: And they are not doing that already when they come to you? SCHULZE:

> Oh, God no.

>

> BISER: You mean, all this holistic information is floating around the

> underground and they are not doing that?

>

> SCHULZE: I know it's shocking. It really is. Our rules at the clinic have

> always been, if you are called an incurable and if you don't buy a juicer,

> we won't even see you again. I won't work with them, period. That is one

> of

> our basic criteria.

> You look at a person like these Jews from the concentration camps. You

> think, " Well, if I tell them to eat fatty foods, it will fatten them up. "

> But they can't assimilate it.

>

> The only thing they are going to assimilate is the most basic food and

> that's juices and herbal drinks.

>

> BISER: Have you seen some of those skin and bones come back all the way?

>

> SCHULZE: Absolutely But these people usually have diarrhea.

>

> BISER: How do you stop the diarrhea?

>

> SCHULZE: Getting healthy Sometimes we use the intestinal formula number

> two

> to solidify it just to make them feel a little bit better, and to soothe

> and

> detoxify the bowel. Basically getting their immune system working again

> will

> fix the diarrhea.

>

> A lot of people think, " I don't want to drink juices; I have diarrhea, and

> I

> need fat in my diet. " They are eating hamburgers o~r something. What we

> have

> to tell them is, " Look, you are not assimilating anything. "

>

> BISER: You can eat it, but you can't assimilate it!

>

> SCHULZE: But you will assimilate these juices. Boy, do they brighten up on

> the juices. And then, once they are clean, and they do some bowel

> cleansing

> or whatever, they start assimilating, and then you get them on high-fat

> foods like avocados, sesame tahini, nut butters, whole grain bread, and

> olive oil.

>

> BISER: But that's a long way off

>

> SCHULZE: Yea, it is. The juices come first.

>

> The cold sheet treatment must be done by AIDS victims.

>

> SCHULZE: All AIDS victims need this hydrotherapy. It is mandatory not

> optional.

>

> My wife, who was not ill, still claims that it was the turning point in

> her

> life because she had volunteered in class to do it. The treatment

> was metamorphosis for her. It was like coming out of the cocoon for her

> physically But it does a lot more than that.

> Everybody today has some psychological problems, maybe from their

> childhood,

> and the cold sheet treatment can release these. Emotional healing is part

> of

> the program, especially for people with AIDS. We need t do anything to

> liberate the immune system. So, don't underestimate what goes on during

> this

> cold sheet treatment. It's physical, emotional, spiritual, psychic, and

> It's

> powerful.

>

> 'A common denominator of AIDS is they hate their lives. "

>

> SCHULZE: The common denominator I found in most people with AIDS, now, I'm

> not talking about the rare case of the hemophiliac they're at a blood risk

> is that they hated themselves.

>

> They hated their lives. They thought because they were homosexual, they

> were

> going to hell and burn for eternity I mean, you can imagine what went on

> in

> their minds. They were immune risks.

>

> I had on file patient ---- a man who used to go to the bath houses and

> have

> oral sex with 12-15 men in a night--- swallow a pint of semen.

>

> Let me put it this way: I have never ever seen anybody get AIDS who didn't

> tell me a story of their past that didn't make me just about want to

> vomit.

> Okay? I thought I was a pretty hip dude. I mean, I'm from the Woodstock

> generation. I thought I'd been around a little bit, and when these people

> come.. well, it's just too much.

>

> Most people who get AIDS have the worst life styles. They stay up all

> night

> long, they use massive amounts of drugs. You know, when you have multiple

> sexual partners, it's an immune risk because, you know, when you have sex

> with someone, whatever that someone is, you're sharing bodily fluids, and

> our immune system has to eat that.

>

> And so, if you're having 12 different partners in a night, your immune

> system's blowing out. And I you know what the bottom line is, healthy

> people

> don't get AIDS. They get sick, but they don't get AIDS.

>

> SHULZE http://www.healthfree.com/schulze/

>

>

>

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>Dear ,

>

>In addition to Dusan's excellent reply, I have personally met several

>completely self cured aids patients, including some 20 men, who did a

>co-operative, intense oxidation regime, primarily utilizing medical ozone,

>in addition to approaches such as Dusan has enumerated. Some of these men

>were near death, with T cell counts of 5.

>

>See Ed McCabe's book on Oxidation Therapies and numerous websites on

>Oxidation Therapies, very common in Germany and other countries.

>

>Larry Clapp, Ph.D., J.D.

>www.prostate90.com

>

>Author, " Prostate Health in 90 Days, Without Drugs or Surgery " , Hayhouse

>9/97, currently the best selling prostate book, in 8th printing.

You said it. I have listened to a few of his interviews. Aids, in my

opinion, has nothing to do with HIV, and is 99% immune breakdown from drug &

sex overuse--the combination depletes ones energy levels--not forgetting a

few vaccine contaminants, accidental or deliberate.

Ellison uses the scurvy, beri-beri, and pellagra fiascos as a backdrop

to the aids one, now in progress.

Also we now have the AIDS death cult, outlined by Lauritsen in his book

The AIDS Cult.

Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola. Nature, Accident or Intentional? Interview

of Leonard G. Horowitz, D.M.D., M.A.., M.P.H. by Null 1995.

http://www.garynull.com/ http://www.tetrahedron.org/

AIDS sites:

Heal LA http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/1781/heal.html

Heal SF http://www.healsf.org/

Rethinking AIDS http://www.xs4all.nl/~raido/indexto.htm

Tetrahedron http://www.tetrahedron.org/

AIDS info BBS database http://itsa.ucsf.edu/~beng/aidsbbs.html

International AIDS Journalism http://www.refuse-resist.com/iajr/

AIDS Authority http://www.aidsauthority.org/

Deusberg http://WWW.DUESBERG.COM/

Keep Hope Alive http://www.execpc.com/~keephope/keephope.html

Null http://www.garynull.com/ Null clinic

http://www.thehealingcenter.com/

" Every single person in there (AIDS video) had a positive statement to say,

and instead of all those people being DEAD, they were all alive and well and

several were sero-converted from HIV positive to HIV negative. Now there is

not a SINGLE PERSON that they can bring forward who has been on THEIR

therapies, and I can bring home twelve hundred people who are alive and

well...........You've got a hundred thousand people getting money this

year -- five billion dollars -- to study an HIV virus. And we know more

about this virus than any substance in human history, and yet they cannot

help a single person with AIDS. " — Null

http://www.livelinks.com/sumeria/health/garynu1.html

Colman’s AIDS page http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/2587/aidswork.html

Marty s AIDS page http://www.smartlink.net/%7Emartinjh/

Sumeria http://www.livelinks.com/sumeria/aids.html

http://www.aidsnyc.org/heal/index.htm

AIDS criticism resource guide

http://id.mind.net/community/orgonelab/aidscrit.htm

Knox http://www.primenet.com/%7Ejknox/

Joan Priestly, M.D.

http://www.aidsauthority.org/rethink-archive/sep-95/0025.html

Dr Pittman, M.D. http://www.oxytherapy.com/aj/total.html

Beck HIV machine http://www.explorepub.com/articles/beck/hiv_article.html

HIV=AIDS Fact or Fraud? http://www.virtualpres.com/hiv/

HIV electrotherapy http://home.earthlink.net/~dok/

HIV/AIDS Herb cure http://home.ican.net/~706367/

OZONE & OTHER ALTERNATIVES:

Oxygen therapy book http://www.lauralee.com/altman.htm

Ozone politics: McCabe http://www.familyhealthnews.com/art_24.html

Politics http://www.oxytherapy.com/rogers.html

Politics http://www.familyhealthnews.com/articles.html

HIV results ignored http://www.livelinks.com/sumeria/oxy/canada.html

" It's my belief that the use of ozone in association with other

complementary therapies can convert AIDS from a uniformly terminal illness

to something that is chronically manageable, which is better than what

anyone else can offer at this point. " - -Dr. Pittman 1995

AIDS doctor Dr Pittman, M.D. http://www.oxytherapy.com/aj/total.html

Oxygen therapy sites:

Ozone Gateway site http://www.o3zone.com/

Oxytherapy Com site http://www.oxytherapy.com/

Family Health News http://www.familyhealthnews.com/articles.html

Healthworld http://www.healthy.net/clinic/dandc/aids/index.html

National Cancer Institute conducted a preliminary anti-HIV test in vitro

using Maitake D-Fraction and confirmed that it prevents HIV from killing

T-cells. Maitake

" He was one of my most dramatic recoveries with AIDS, and the reason I say

that is that he was the most far gone. He was in the absolute, end stage --

they have that wing in the hospital where they have given up on you. You can

smoke pot and do anything you want. They had given up on him. " —Dr Shulze

Dr Shultz, School of Natural Healing, PO Box 3628, Santa , California

90408-3628, USA. Tel: 001 310 576 6565. Fax: ---6575.

AIDS & POLIO VACCINE

Houston aids conference

http://www.calypte.com/news/releases/release_7.html#RTFToC1

After Thirty Years, Prominent Polio Vaccine Researcher Confirms Suspicions

About Monkey-Virus Contamination

ftp://ftp.harbor.cove.com/virtual/tetraftp/pub/Stunning_Admissions_on_Contam

in.txt

Polio vaccines and AIDS origins

http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/bmartin/dissent/documents/AIDS/

Polio vaccine creates hybrid?

http://www.i-wayco.com/niin/dirdesk/dr_urnovitz.html

Emerging Viruses book

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0923550127/2073-7646293-222161

AIDS & The Doctors of Death book

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=0917211251/9789-9510244-200272

AIDS VACCINE

Tetrahedron ftp://ftp.harbor.cove.com/virtual/tetraftp/pub/AIDS_VACCINE.txt

Vaccine in a quagmire http://www.healthy.net/library/articles/ivn/aids.htm

HIV skeptics http://id.mind.net/community/orgonelab/aidscrit.htm

CENTRE FOR COMPLEX INFECTIOUS DISEASE http://www.ccid.org/

Presentations Relating to Stealth Viruses and to Vaccine Safety:

Stealth Viral Encephalopathy in Autistic Children (live polio vaccines)

Forward to book " Emerging Viruses "

Vaccine Derived Stealth Viruses and Neuropsychiatric Illnesses:

Additional Viruses SV40

Stealth Viruses

AZT

http://www.duesberg.com/nhdashed.html

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/index/azt.htm

FILES

Is Selenium deficiency behind Ebola & AIDS?

http://www.jrthorns.com/Challem/selenium.html

Beck machine http://www.oxytherapy.com/forums/abe1/beck/home.html

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>>

>>

>> >At 10:52 04.01.99 -0500, you wrote:

>> >>I thought I'd take a look at your web page and was somewhat surprised

to

>> >>find that you had one on stating that the body could cure itself of

>> AIDS.

>> >>

>> >>To the best of my knowledge, AIDS is 100% fatal and incurable - or so

>> I've

>> >>been told. Do you have any concrete proof (studies, medical before and

>> after

>> >>diagnosis, etc.) that anyone who has followed this regimen and has

truly

>> had

>> >>a diagnosed case of AIDS has become AIDS-free after following it?

>> >>

>> >>Thanks.

>> >>

>> >

>> >Hi ,

>> >

>> >I have met few years ago people who have reversed AIDS by lifestyle and

>> diet.

>> >

>> >I do not remember their names.

>> >They were stil HIV+ , but they were healthy, without symptoms, and not

>> dead.

>> >

>> >Some other people may have concrete proof, I do not have it.

>> >

>> >Books to read abot some cases:

>> > " Eat Right For Your Type " by Dr. J. D'Adamo

>> > " The Way of Hope " by Tom Monte

>> > " Healing with Whole Foods - Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition " By

>> > Pitchford

>> >

>> >Follow links from this page:

>> >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/books.html or

>> >

>> >Ask DR.DAdamo here : http://www.dadamo.com/

>> >Ask Pitchford here: Heartwood Institute :

>> >http://www.heartwoodinstitute.com/

>> >Ask Tom Monte here : http://www.macrobiotics.org/ki.html

>> >

>> >

>> >Lifestyle and diet can improwe immunity, and immunity can keep HIV under

>> >control.

>> >You have probably heard of people being more than 10 years HIV+, and not

>> >developing AIDS Symptoms.

>> >Their immunity was sufficient enough to not develope AIDS.

>> >

>> >But that is not everything.

>> >

>> >There are few cases of HIV+ in France, where husband and wife have

>> >unprotected Sex for many years and she is still HIV-. Also few cases of

>> >children born HIV- from the mothers HIV+. ???

>> >I have seen it on the French national TV. It was not a Joke. It was

>> serious

>> >program about AIDS, and about people living with HIV+ for many years.

>> >

>> >Also, I have read about few cases of HIV+ becoming HIV-. BUT, There

is

>> >no proof for that - doctors think that the first diagnose was mistake !?

>> >Maybe it wasn't !

>> >

>> >

>> >Dusan

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> Interview with Dr Shulze:

>>

>> " To cure AIDS, its a total life style change --- not a drug or a pill.

>> Natural healing can cure AIDS. But if you are looking for one special

>> anti-viral herb to solve this disease, you're as nuts as the doctors.

How

>> stupid can these experts be (and the patients, too), to believe that a

>> single drug, a chemical on its lonesome, can cure a total body breakdown?

>> We

>> don't need any more research money to cure AIDS. In case you are groggy

or

>> dense and didn't get my point, I will repeat it: AIDS can be cured. Right

>> now. Forget the DNA research. Forget the emotional fund-raisers. They're

>> not

>> necessary. It can also save those who are skin and bone and sores and

>> diarrhea. If you follow all this information, you can end up cured and

>> HIV-negative. Sympathy and understanding cannot cure AIDS. This

>> information

>> will cure --- but only if you use it with all your heart and soul. If

>> people

>> would live right, eat right, think right, use natural healing, and stop

>> taking all drugs, the AIDS epidemic would end. " ----Sam Biser

>>

>> SCHULZE: Referring back to that AIDS case we discussed on the videotapes,

>> he

>> was in the hospital .He had a T-cell count of 1 or 2--- and had about a

>> week

>> to live.

>> He was one of my most dramatic recoveries with AIDS, and the reason I say

>> that is that he was the most far gone. He was in the absolute, end stage

>> --

>> they have that wing in the hospital where they have given up on you. You

>> can

>> smoke pot and do anything you want. They had given up on him.

>>

>> He was the sickest. He was just skin wrapped around bones. I've had

people

>> with Karposi's sarcoma, and I've had people with pneumocystic lung

>> fibrosis,

>> but he was one of the only ones

>> I had that had both lungs diseased full-blown, advanced.

>>

>> BISER: He had red blotches all over his skin.

>>

>> SCHULZE: All over his body. Most people --- usually it's more prevalent

on

>> the feet.

>>

>> BISER: But he had them all over?

>>

>> SCHULZE: He had them on his head, his face, his arm, his chest.

>>

>> BISER: Don't you ever get scared that you, yourself could get something

>> from them?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Again, not that I am perfect, but it's another great motivation

>> to

>> take care o) myself and eat right and live a fairly clean life. But I

also

>> feel --- I've always felt pretty impervious to this stuff. You know how

it

>> is being an Aries.

>>

>> BISER: Oh, you feel rugged

>>

>> SCHULZE: I'm headstrong. I feel tough. I don't believe a lot in the germ

>> theory of disease. In other words, if you do get this sick, you've got to

>> set up an environment for it. I take very good care of myself. I also

know

>> that orthodox medical beliefs about AIDS are wrong.

>>

>> 'A few years ago, I put a lot of energy out that I wanted to work with

>> people with full-blown AIDS. "

>>

>> BISER: You put the word out?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yeah. This was mid-80's --- 1985, maybe. I wanted to let people

>> know that natural healing had no boundaries. AIDS certainly wasn't a

>> boundary, just because it was the new thing.

>>

>> I think I said that somewhere, and it was on an audio tape, and this man

>> heard the tape. So, I went to visit him, even though he only had one week

>> to

>> live. It was like, " Wow " I thought to myself, " Maybe I got into more than

>> I

>> can chew here. " He was bad. But he really believed, even in his horrible

>> state. He believed he could be well.

>>

>> " The only reason the doctor is saying this terminal AIDS patient can't

>> leave

>> the hospital is because he's making $1,000 a day off this guy. It's just

a

>> money thing. "

>>

>> BISER: What did you do immediately so that he wouldn't die in one week?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Got him out of the hospital. This is the hard thing because to

>> lot

>> of people that I see, the doctors say 'If you leave, you'll die. "

>>

>> Well, if you stay there, you're going to die, so get out of there.

Nothing

>> can really be done in a hospital environment. They are feeding you lime

>> Jello. They have IV's with sugar in your arm. So, I said to his boy

>> friend,

>> " They say he's dead. He doesn't want to be here. "

>>

>> Everybody is so alien to this thought of dying at home. For Americans,

>> it's

>> so unusual. I said, " Let's get him the hell out of here. " I said, " Just

>> getting him home would stimulate his immune system. " And so his boyfriend

>> agreed.

>> I had to get an ambulance service to pull this off, because the doctor

>> sits

>> there saying, " No, I don't want to release him. "

>>

>> BISER: So, you got the release.

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yeah. You didn't even have to get a release. Anybody in this

>> country has the right to pull the plug and walk the hell out of a

>> hospital.

>>

>> I called an ambulance service with some big sumo wrestler-type guys, and

>> they just came and had an argument with the doctor myself. I said He

>> wants

>> to go home and that's where he's going.

>> So, we got him home and went the whole route. They had to get a juicer;

>> they

>> didn't have a juicer. We got a juicer on the way home. This guy really

>> became a juice fanatic. Some people do. They drink it, and they feel it,

>> they love it. And I then we did a lot, obviously

>>

>> BISER: By the middle of the next day he was heavy into it?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Not even the middle of the next day. We got him out right then.

>> It

>> wasn't even the next day We got him out right away He was out of there.

>> They

>> picked up the juicer. I went over to their place that night, got them

>> going

>> the juicer --- the whole program.

>>

>> 'juice-fasting is like a blood transfusion for sick patients who are

>> wasting

>> away to death. "

>>

>> BISER: Did he start the herbs that day too?

>>

>> SCHULZE: The first is juice-fasting. That's what I start out heavy with.

>> And

>> then, over the next couple of days, we started into heavy doses of

>> immune-boosting herbs the echinacea. He was doing about 10 dropperfuls a

>> day of echinacea tincture, but also echinacea root tea.

>>

>> BISER: How much echinacea root tea?

>>

>> SCHULZE: I'd say about 4 to 6 cups a day, whatever we could keep down

him.

>> You can't get a lot in.

>>

>> BISER: You knew you might only have a week to make a turnaround

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely. When people are this thin, they tend to not be able

>> to

>> take much in their stomach That's where the tinctures come in really

nice,

>> because you don't have to consume a large volume.

>>

>> We had him on the teas, we had him on the detoxes, liver flushes,

>> bowel-cleansing. We were doing a lot of enemas because his bowel wasn't

>> working at all.

>>

>> I also did heavy bowel-cleansing to stop the constipation and diarrhea.

>>

>> There wasn't much coming out. There was very dark, hard material, you

know

>> just like chunks of debris. They had him on some pain stuff, and that

>> stopped his bowels. One thing that was important with him was the juices

>> really boosted him up.

>>

>> BISER: What kind of juices?

>>

>> SCHULZE: One of my favorites, and we used this with him, is carrot,

>> beetroot and beet leaf.

>>

>> BISER: A mixture of those three?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Like 50% carrot and 25% beet root and 25% beet leaf. I remember

>> his

>> blood count was very low We got his blood count normalized in 3 days. Not

>> his T-cells, but his red blood cells. His hemoglobin count was very low

>>

>> BISER: What did his boyfriend think when, in three days, his blood count

>> was

>> going to normal?

>>

>> SCHULZE: He was just thrilled. His hemoglobin count had been down very

low

>> at the bottom of the level. He had been white and pasty and weak. The

>> blood

>> count was so low you could almost see through him.

>>

>> In three days, his blood count was almost over the top. And his coloor

was

>> back, and he had lots of energy I got the two of them some books on

>> juices,

>> and their juicer was running all the time.

>>

>> Most of the cancer, the Karposi's sarcoma, is just blotchy but there were

>> some areas where he had some horrible skin; and there was even some

>> elimination coming out of it. So, we did a lot of drawing stuff on that

to

>> clear him out.

>>

>> BISER: Poke root poultices

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yes, and a lot of skin-brushing. Whenever people have cancer, I

>> always use that same black drawing poultice with the clay, the charcoal,

>> poke root, garlic, goldenseal and just try to disinfect -- burn a little

>> and

>> get it out.

>>

>> Then we started working with the lungs because he had 50) many things

>> going

>> on. But this guy became an absolute raging fanatic --- you almost know it

>> when people are going to get well. They just get so positive. And this

guy

>> really got into it.

>> He was buying more books on it. And then I had him getting up out of bed,

>> probably in a week, and doing the juicing himself. That's important too.

>>

>> BISER: Within the week, he was not dead?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Within a week, he was up, standing in the kitchen, holding on to

>> the counter a little bit, wheezing and juicing. We went through a lot of

>> blood-building juices. He got into mushrooms a lot, you know,

>> immune-stimulating mushrooms and fungi. He had some pretty bad thrush

too,

>> and we dealt with that. His mouth hurt a lot. In fact, the juices were

>> quite

>> painful to drink because his mouth was so full o)f sores.

>>

>> BISER: Did you ever do what Dr did for the mouth oak bark?

>>

>> SCHULZE: You can, and that works really nice. But the tea tree oil works

>> even better, and it soothes and heals thrush in a 2-10% solution. One o)f

>> the best brands is called Thursday Plantation. It's in all the health

food

>> stores. It's excellent. Another source is from Frontier Herbs. (These are

>> listed in our Appendix on Sources.

>>

>> BISER: How much did he take and in what form?

>>

>> SCHULZE: We made a gargle out of it. They didn't have any products back

>> then, so we just made a gargle out of tea tree oil, and a mouthwash, and

>> rinsed his mouth with it. It really destroys the fungus andi also reduces

>> the inflammation.

>>

>> But the oak bark works really nice, too. In fact, I usually ---for people

>> like that, I make some kind of tooth powder, and I know I did for him.

And

>> it would have contained oak bark.

>>

>> " He was cured in eight months, but relapsed slightly almost two years

>> later

>> when he went off his programs. "

>>

>> BISER: Asyon told me, eight months later he walks znto your office a

cured

>> man?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Abso)lutely When he go)t stro~ng, it was like the stuff jumped

>> o~ut

>> o~f his bo~dy. And, o)f co~urse ---- we think o)f AIDS as a disease, but

>> it

>> really isn't. It's just the combinatio~n of diseases that happens when

>> y(~ur

>> immune system gets depressed.

>>

>> You build up your immune system and.. oh, and this guy ended up no)t even

>> testing HIV positive. I almost forgot that. It's supposed to be

>> impossible,

>> but then, in the last 5 years, I've heard of hundreds of cases like that.

>>

>> In other words, he got so well they couldn't even find the antibody for

>> HIV

>> in him. And that's how you know that a lot of the information out there

is

>> garbage. For example, 5% of AIDS cases today don't test HIV-positive.

>>

>> His lung fibrosis went away, but there was always some scar tissue in

>> there.

>> His lungs were never 100%, but they could have been if he had done more

>> work

>> in that direction.

>>

>> But I do remember that a couple of years after, he had a slip, and

>> this is quite common. And his T-cell count started going down. He had a

>> relapse and, o)f course, he had gone off his program. He got back onto a

>> program, and everything went back to healthy

>>

>> I had a woman patient who had breast cancer with a malignant tumor,

>> golf-ball size. Got rid of it through natural healing, and she had a lump

>> come back in her breast about 10 times probably every year. When I call

>> her, and she goes back on her program, it goes away. So, it's very common

>> that people, once they feel...

>>

>> BISER: They celebrate

>>

>> " There is life after the incurables program, and it's not back to the

>> life-style that got you in trouble. "

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely I'm not saying that they can't have a Saturday night

5

>> times a year or something. I'm just saying that isn't what they do). The

>> programs just start lessening and lessening, and the next thing you know,

>> they have slipped back into their old ways.

>>

>> He had a few minor relapses again, which I almost see with every patient.

>> It's almost like you could count on this.

>> BISER: Now the relapses are not inevitable. They're caused by going back

>> on

>> junk?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yeah. And everybody seems to have it at some point. You know

what

>> happens is, obviously you get to a point where you go, " Well gosh, if

I've

>> got to stay on this program, maybe I don't want to) live. "

>>

>> It's someone's birthday so I'll have a little bit d)f this cheesecake and

>> a

>> little piece of chicken. And, you know there's no big deal about that.

But

>> then it happens again the next week, and the week after, and then it's

>> two-days-a-week and then it's three-days-a-week.

>>

>> Over a year or two, a person's diet has gotten very sloppy And usually it

>> happens the second year, and then I get the call, " My disease wasn't

gone,

>> it's back. "

>>

>> People have to realize you need to adopt a new healthy life-style for the

>> rest of your life. This is not a program to be chucked when you get well.

>>

>> If we bombard our bodies with so much crap, something is going to go

wrong

>> with us. In immunology you learn that the primary function of the human

>> body

>> is to survive. That's what it is constantly doing. But you have to give

it

>> the natural methods that it needs.

>>

>> Red clover for the skin cancers of AIDS.

>>

>> SCHULZE: I had an older AIDS patient, a man in his late 40's with no

>> problem

>> with his lungs. He wasn't a smoker either. He did have the Karposi's

>> sarcoma, but only on his feet and ankles.

>>

>> But that's usually where it starts. He had a T-cell count down there.

>> We're

>> looking at, I think at one point it was 100, which isn't uncommon with

>> AIDS

>> patients.

>>

>> And, of course, once his T-cell count hit 100, that's when he started

>> having

>> the Karposi's sarcoma. The red blotches came out about grape-size all

over

>> the bottom of his feet on his ankles. He might have had one or two on his

>> arms, but primarily on his feet.

>> He was a writer - wrote novels and some poetry. He was pretty much ready

>> to

>> give up. All these people who come to see me just want to know if they

can

>> get their digestion better, because they are having diarrhea and this and

>> that.

>>

>> After I overwhelm them for two hours in my office, they believe they have

>> a

>> chance.

>>

>> But none of them ever have an idea of really beating it. I would love to

>> get

>> some people with AIDS who really want to beat the disease.

>>

>> BISER: But that is not what they want from you?

>>

>> SCHULZE: No, they just want to feel comfortable; because everybody has

>> told

>> them, including all o)f their friends, that they are dead.

>>

>> SCHULZE: They were not trying, but he was. I thought that he was a pretty

>> healthy guy He wasn't one o)f these wasted-away ones

>>

>> BISER: So you helped this guy right?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yea, but he did have the Karposi's sarcoma cancer which is

>> considered a malignant cancer. He had some meat on his bones. He was also

>> in

>> a monogamous relationship.

>>

>> I'm not so sure if he contracted AIDS because of his homosexual activity

>> on

>> the sidle, o)r maybe he did some intravenous drugs. I wasn't so sure

about

>> how; maybe an occasional weekend in a bath ho)use --- but he did

something

>> that dropped his immune system.

>>

>> BISER: Did this guy get rid of this Karposi's sarcoma?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely A complete turnaround. I'm going to say it was about

>> eight months before he didn't have a blotch on his body And, of course,

we

>> also) treated that externally. We did a few kind of odd things with him.

>> Red

>> clover. I'm a big fan of red clover, topically, when you are talking

about

>> skin cancers.

>>

>> BISER: Red clover what? Like a paste?

>>

>> SCHULZE: You can make it into a paste in a blender with the poke root you

>> can take the red clover blossoms, just fresh or dried, and put them right

>> in

>> your blender with anything else you'd want to put on it.

>> Also, I'm sure it would have been slippery elm, a little bit of garlic;

>> because I didn't want to burn his skin, but I wanted some garlic in

there,

>> and apple cider vinegar, charcoal and bloodroot.

>>

>> BISER: Not even poke root?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Oh yes, poke root. And poke root, if it's fresh, will burn

>> through

>> the skin similar to garlic. Dried poke root won't do that. It's a lot

less

>> volatile. I didn't want to burn this off, because it's just like purple

>> bruises. It's not like there is something there like a wart. But I wanted

>> some garlic and I used dried poke root. The red clover is so brilliant

for

>> skin cancers.

>>

>> BISER: You mean sometimes you will use it by itself?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Oh yea, in Dr. 's boo)k, School of Natural Healing,

>> there are cancer plasters.

>>

>> BISER: What does plaster mean, just a concentrate?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yea, I think he talks about simmering down red clover blossom

>> heads

>> similar to the hawthorn berry tonic. We end up with a syrup of red clover

>> and you spread that on the skin.

>>

>> Nowadays, what we might do instead are cold extracts like tinctures where

>> you are concentrating by extracting. But what I usually do rather have

>> someone use something over a long period of time. So, you can just take

>> fresh red clover heads, put them in a blender, add a little bit of

>> vinegar,

>> a little bit of slippery elm or if you want to draw, use clay And just a

>> little bit of garlic, like a clove of garlic.

>>

>> I know I am not giving you a total recipe here, but it's one of those

>> things...

>>

>> BISER: Yea, I know, you mix it up on the fly

>>

>> SCHULZE: You blend that up, and you have yourself a paste, and it's like

a

>> reddish-brown because of the red clover. It adheres right to the skin

>> because you put the slippery elm in there to hold it together.

>> We would pack his feet in that at night, and just get it right over that

>> cancer. Although cancer is systemic, when you have cancer that you can

see

>> on the body, why not treat it right on top?

>>

>> We packed his feet in that at night. He did the whole incurables routine.

>> He

>> got better, he got stronger, his T-cell count kept going up and up. One

>> thing that people need to know here, too, is: T- cell counts don't go

from

>> 150 to 1500 on a steady line.

>> I mean, sometimes he tested, and it would be like 275 and the next time

>> 230.

>> He'd get depressed, and I'd have to tell these people. " Come on, this is

>> ridiculous. You're heading uphill. "

>>

>> There are bumps. It's like a jagged line, but your direction overall is

>> uphill. I have to remind a lot of people with degenerative disease of

that

>> one. I have to kick their butts. He'd have like a (~ne or two degree slip

>> in

>> his T-cell and he thought that was meaningful or he was getting worse or

>> whatever.

>>

>> His T-cell count started going up and up. He wanted to give up on his

>> feet,

>> because they weren't changing that much. But then sure enough, slowly he

>> got

>> better and better. His T-cell count kind of normalized at about 1200,

>> which

>> isn't necessarily optimum.

>>

>> He didn't know what his was before he got sick, anyway. That could have

>> been

>> normal for him. I feel that anybody who gets AIDS unless they have had a

>> horrendous life-style, probably has a weak immune-type body.

>>

>> Immune types will walk out in public, someone will sneeze and they are

>> HIV-positive. I really believe that. They are susceptible to everything.

>> Because their weakness is in their immune system, in their lymphatic

>> system.

>>

>> All cancer blotches went away and they said it's gone into remission. He

>> was

>> as cured as long as he follows the program.

>> " These methods have saved people who looked like they could have been a

>> dead

>> corpse in a wheelbarrow at a concentration camp. "

>>

>> BISER: have you had many people who were skin and bones?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely I think probably half my patients have been skin and

>> bones types. They took off their shirts to show me a spot, and it was

>> like,

>> " Put your shirt back on. " They had depressions between the ribs. You

could

>> put your fingers in the ruts between the ribs.

>>

>> BISER: Tcell counts of what?

>>

>> SCHULZE: My lowest, I think I told you was 2 and 1; it fluctuated. They

>> said

>> they saw a court o 1. I've had numerous cases down in the 25-30 range.

And

>> I've had them where they looked like... have you ever seen the pictures

>> right after the Americans went into the concentration camps, where they

>> would pick up the dead bodies? They put them in wheelbarrows. Well, a lot

>> of

>> my patients looked like they put A' vacuum inside them and it sucked

>> everything in.

>>

>> BISER: And you pulled them out of that?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely. One problem is that they are not assimilating. They

>> are

>> so ill. How do you cope with their problems? The first thing is a juicer.

>> They have got to get a juicer.

>>

>> BISER: And they are not doing that already when they come to you?

SCHULZE:

>> Oh, God no.

>>

>> BISER: You mean, all this holistic information is floating around the

>> underground and they are not doing that?

>>

>> SCHULZE: I know it's shocking. It really is. Our rules at the clinic have

>> always been, if you are called an incurable and if you don't buy a

juicer,

>> we won't even see you again. I won't work with them, period. That is one

>> of

>> our basic criteria.

>> You look at a person like these Jews from the concentration camps. You

>> think, " Well, if I tell them to eat fatty foods, it will fatten them up. "

>> But they can't assimilate it.

>>

>> The only thing they are going to assimilate is the most basic food and

>> that's juices and herbal drinks.

>>

>> BISER: Have you seen some of those skin and bones come back all the way?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely But these people usually have diarrhea.

>>

>> BISER: How do you stop the diarrhea?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Getting healthy Sometimes we use the intestinal formula number

>> two

>> to solidify it just to make them feel a little bit better, and to soothe

>> and

>> detoxify the bowel. Basically getting their immune system working again

>> will

>> fix the diarrhea.

>>

>> A lot of people think, " I don't want to drink juices; I have diarrhea,

and

>> I

>> need fat in my diet. " They are eating hamburgers o~r something. What we

>> have

>> to tell them is, " Look, you are not assimilating anything. "

>>

>> BISER: You can eat it, but you can't assimilate it!

>>

>> SCHULZE: But you will assimilate these juices. Boy, do they brighten up

on

>> the juices. And then, once they are clean, and they do some bowel

>> cleansing

>> or whatever, they start assimilating, and then you get them on high-fat

>> foods like avocados, sesame tahini, nut butters, whole grain bread, and

>> olive oil.

>>

>> BISER: But that's a long way off

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yea, it is. The juices come first.

>>

>> The cold sheet treatment must be done by AIDS victims.

>>

>> SCHULZE: All AIDS victims need this hydrotherapy. It is mandatory not

>> optional.

>>

>> My wife, who was not ill, still claims that it was the turning point in

>> her

>> life because she had volunteered in class to do it. The treatment

>> was metamorphosis for her. It was like coming out of the cocoon for her

>> physically But it does a lot more than that.

>> Everybody today has some psychological problems, maybe from their

>> childhood,

>> and the cold sheet treatment can release these. Emotional healing is part

>> of

>> the program, especially for people with AIDS. We need t do anything to

>> liberate the immune system. So, don't underestimate what goes on during

>> this

>> cold sheet treatment. It's physical, emotional, spiritual, psychic, and

>> It's

>> powerful.

>>

>> 'A common denominator of AIDS is they hate their lives. "

>>

>> SCHULZE: The common denominator I found in most people with AIDS, now,

I'm

>> not talking about the rare case of the hemophiliac they're at a blood

risk

>> is that they hated themselves.

>>

>> They hated their lives. They thought because they were homosexual, they

>> were

>> going to hell and burn for eternity I mean, you can imagine what went on

>> in

>> their minds. They were immune risks.

>>

>> I had on file patient ---- a man who used to go to the bath houses and

>> have

>> oral sex with 12-15 men in a night--- swallow a pint of semen.

>>

>> Let me put it this way: I have never ever seen anybody get AIDS who

didn't

>> tell me a story of their past that didn't make me just about want to

>> vomit.

>> Okay? I thought I was a pretty hip dude. I mean, I'm from the Woodstock

>> generation. I thought I'd been around a little bit, and when these people

>> come.. well, it's just too much.

>>

>> Most people who get AIDS have the worst life styles. They stay up all

>> night

>> long, they use massive amounts of drugs. You know, when you have multiple

>> sexual partners, it's an immune risk because, you know, when you have sex

>> with someone, whatever that someone is, you're sharing bodily fluids, and

>> our immune system has to eat that.

>>

>> And so, if you're having 12 different partners in a night, your immune

>> system's blowing out. And I you know what the bottom line is, healthy

>> people

>> don't get AIDS. They get sick, but they don't get AIDS.

>>

>> SHULZE http://www.healthfree.com/schulze/

>>

>>

>>

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Controlled studies, NO.

These men were concerned with saving their lives and avoiding being caught

with the Ozone machine they had smuggled in from Germany, however Ed McCabe,

who introduced me to these men, has chronicled their experience and most of

their stats.

Best,

Larry

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Re: Your AIDS page...

>>

>>

>> >At 10:52 04.01.99 -0500, you wrote:

>> >>I thought I'd take a look at your web page and was somewhat surprised

to

>> >>find that you had one on stating that the body could cure itself of

>> AIDS.

>> >>

>> >>To the best of my knowledge, AIDS is 100% fatal and incurable - or so

>> I've

>> >>been told. Do you have any concrete proof (studies, medical before and

>> after

>> >>diagnosis, etc.) that anyone who has followed this regimen and has

truly

>> had

>> >>a diagnosed case of AIDS has become AIDS-free after following it?

>> >>

>> >>Thanks.

>> >>

>> >

>> >Hi ,

>> >

>> >I have met few years ago people who have reversed AIDS by lifestyle and

>> diet.

>> >

>> >I do not remember their names.

>> >They were stil HIV+ , but they were healthy, without symptoms, and not

>> dead.

>> >

>> >Some other people may have concrete proof, I do not have it.

>> >

>> >Books to read abot some cases:

>> > " Eat Right For Your Type " by Dr. J. D'Adamo

>> > " The Way of Hope " by Tom Monte

>> > " Healing with Whole Foods - Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition " By

>> > Pitchford

>> >

>> >Follow links from this page:

>> >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/books.html or

>> >

>> >Ask DR.DAdamo here : http://www.dadamo.com/

>> >Ask Pitchford here: Heartwood Institute :

>> >http://www.heartwoodinstitute.com/

>> >Ask Tom Monte here : http://www.macrobiotics.org/ki.html

>> >

>> >

>> >Lifestyle and diet can improwe immunity, and immunity can keep HIV under

>> >control.

>> >You have probably heard of people being more than 10 years HIV+, and not

>> >developing AIDS Symptoms.

>> >Their immunity was sufficient enough to not develope AIDS.

>> >

>> >But that is not everything.

>> >

>> >There are few cases of HIV+ in France, where husband and wife have

>> >unprotected Sex for many years and she is still HIV-. Also few cases of

>> >children born HIV- from the mothers HIV+. ???

>> >I have seen it on the French national TV. It was not a Joke. It was

>> serious

>> >program about AIDS, and about people living with HIV+ for many years.

>> >

>> >Also, I have read about few cases of HIV+ becoming HIV-. BUT, There

is

>> >no proof for that - doctors think that the first diagnose was mistake !?

>> >Maybe it wasn't !

>> >

>> >

>> >Dusan

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> Interview with Dr Shulze:

>>

>> " To cure AIDS, its a total life style change --- not a drug or a pill.

>> Natural healing can cure AIDS. But if you are looking for one special

>> anti-viral herb to solve this disease, you're as nuts as the doctors.

How

>> stupid can these experts be (and the patients, too), to believe that a

>> single drug, a chemical on its lonesome, can cure a total body breakdown?

>> We

>> don't need any more research money to cure AIDS. In case you are groggy

or

>> dense and didn't get my point, I will repeat it: AIDS can be cured. Right

>> now. Forget the DNA research. Forget the emotional fund-raisers. They're

>> not

>> necessary. It can also save those who are skin and bone and sores and

>> diarrhea. If you follow all this information, you can end up cured and

>> HIV-negative. Sympathy and understanding cannot cure AIDS. This

>> information

>> will cure --- but only if you use it with all your heart and soul. If

>> people

>> would live right, eat right, think right, use natural healing, and stop

>> taking all drugs, the AIDS epidemic would end. " ----Sam Biser

>>

>> SCHULZE: Referring back to that AIDS case we discussed on the videotapes,

>> he

>> was in the hospital .He had a T-cell count of 1 or 2--- and had about a

>> week

>> to live.

>> He was one of my most dramatic recoveries with AIDS, and the reason I say

>> that is that he was the most far gone. He was in the absolute, end stage

>> --

>> they have that wing in the hospital where they have given up on you. You

>> can

>> smoke pot and do anything you want. They had given up on him.

>>

>> He was the sickest. He was just skin wrapped around bones. I've had

people

>> with Karposi's sarcoma, and I've had people with pneumocystic lung

>> fibrosis,

>> but he was one of the only ones

>> I had that had both lungs diseased full-blown, advanced.

>>

>> BISER: He had red blotches all over his skin.

>>

>> SCHULZE: All over his body. Most people --- usually it's more prevalent

on

>> the feet.

>>

>> BISER: But he had them all over?

>>

>> SCHULZE: He had them on his head, his face, his arm, his chest.

>>

>> BISER: Don't you ever get scared that you, yourself could get something

>> from them?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Again, not that I am perfect, but it's another great motivation

>> to

>> take care o) myself and eat right and live a fairly clean life. But I

also

>> feel --- I've always felt pretty impervious to this stuff. You know how

it

>> is being an Aries.

>>

>> BISER: Oh, you feel rugged

>>

>> SCHULZE: I'm headstrong. I feel tough. I don't believe a lot in the germ

>> theory of disease. In other words, if you do get this sick, you've got to

>> set up an environment for it. I take very good care of myself. I also

know

>> that orthodox medical beliefs about AIDS are wrong.

>>

>> 'A few years ago, I put a lot of energy out that I wanted to work with

>> people with full-blown AIDS. "

>>

>> BISER: You put the word out?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yeah. This was mid-80's --- 1985, maybe. I wanted to let people

>> know that natural healing had no boundaries. AIDS certainly wasn't a

>> boundary, just because it was the new thing.

>>

>> I think I said that somewhere, and it was on an audio tape, and this man

>> heard the tape. So, I went to visit him, even though he only had one week

>> to

>> live. It was like, " Wow " I thought to myself, " Maybe I got into more than

>> I

>> can chew here. " He was bad. But he really believed, even in his horrible

>> state. He believed he could be well.

>>

>> " The only reason the doctor is saying this terminal AIDS patient can't

>> leave

>> the hospital is because he's making $1,000 a day off this guy. It's just

a

>> money thing. "

>>

>> BISER: What did you do immediately so that he wouldn't die in one week?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Got him out of the hospital. This is the hard thing because to

>> lot

>> of people that I see, the doctors say 'If you leave, you'll die. "

>>

>> Well, if you stay there, you're going to die, so get out of there.

Nothing

>> can really be done in a hospital environment. They are feeding you lime

>> Jello. They have IV's with sugar in your arm. So, I said to his boy

>> friend,

>> " They say he's dead. He doesn't want to be here. "

>>

>> Everybody is so alien to this thought of dying at home. For Americans,

>> it's

>> so unusual. I said, " Let's get him the hell out of here. " I said, " Just

>> getting him home would stimulate his immune system. " And so his boyfriend

>> agreed.

>> I had to get an ambulance service to pull this off, because the doctor

>> sits

>> there saying, " No, I don't want to release him. "

>>

>> BISER: So, you got the release.

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yeah. You didn't even have to get a release. Anybody in this

>> country has the right to pull the plug and walk the hell out of a

>> hospital.

>>

>> I called an ambulance service with some big sumo wrestler-type guys, and

>> they just came and had an argument with the doctor myself. I said He

>> wants

>> to go home and that's where he's going.

>> So, we got him home and went the whole route. They had to get a juicer;

>> they

>> didn't have a juicer. We got a juicer on the way home. This guy really

>> became a juice fanatic. Some people do. They drink it, and they feel it,

>> they love it. And I then we did a lot, obviously

>>

>> BISER: By the middle of the next day he was heavy into it?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Not even the middle of the next day. We got him out right then.

>> It

>> wasn't even the next day We got him out right away He was out of there.

>> They

>> picked up the juicer. I went over to their place that night, got them

>> going

>> the juicer --- the whole program.

>>

>> 'juice-fasting is like a blood transfusion for sick patients who are

>> wasting

>> away to death. "

>>

>> BISER: Did he start the herbs that day too?

>>

>> SCHULZE: The first is juice-fasting. That's what I start out heavy with.

>> And

>> then, over the next couple of days, we started into heavy doses of

>> immune-boosting herbs the echinacea. He was doing about 10 dropperfuls a

>> day of echinacea tincture, but also echinacea root tea.

>>

>> BISER: How much echinacea root tea?

>>

>> SCHULZE: I'd say about 4 to 6 cups a day, whatever we could keep down

him.

>> You can't get a lot in.

>>

>> BISER: You knew you might only have a week to make a turnaround

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely. When people are this thin, they tend to not be able

>> to

>> take much in their stomach That's where the tinctures come in really

nice,

>> because you don't have to consume a large volume.

>>

>> We had him on the teas, we had him on the detoxes, liver flushes,

>> bowel-cleansing. We were doing a lot of enemas because his bowel wasn't

>> working at all.

>>

>> I also did heavy bowel-cleansing to stop the constipation and diarrhea.

>>

>> There wasn't much coming out. There was very dark, hard material, you

know

>> just like chunks of debris. They had him on some pain stuff, and that

>> stopped his bowels. One thing that was important with him was the juices

>> really boosted him up.

>>

>> BISER: What kind of juices?

>>

>> SCHULZE: One of my favorites, and we used this with him, is carrot,

>> beetroot and beet leaf.

>>

>> BISER: A mixture of those three?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Like 50% carrot and 25% beet root and 25% beet leaf. I remember

>> his

>> blood count was very low We got his blood count normalized in 3 days. Not

>> his T-cells, but his red blood cells. His hemoglobin count was very low

>>

>> BISER: What did his boyfriend think when, in three days, his blood count

>> was

>> going to normal?

>>

>> SCHULZE: He was just thrilled. His hemoglobin count had been down very

low

>> at the bottom of the level. He had been white and pasty and weak. The

>> blood

>> count was so low you could almost see through him.

>>

>> In three days, his blood count was almost over the top. And his coloor

was

>> back, and he had lots of energy I got the two of them some books on

>> juices,

>> and their juicer was running all the time.

>>

>> Most of the cancer, the Karposi's sarcoma, is just blotchy but there were

>> some areas where he had some horrible skin; and there was even some

>> elimination coming out of it. So, we did a lot of drawing stuff on that

to

>> clear him out.

>>

>> BISER: Poke root poultices

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yes, and a lot of skin-brushing. Whenever people have cancer, I

>> always use that same black drawing poultice with the clay, the charcoal,

>> poke root, garlic, goldenseal and just try to disinfect -- burn a little

>> and

>> get it out.

>>

>> Then we started working with the lungs because he had 50) many things

>> going

>> on. But this guy became an absolute raging fanatic --- you almost know it

>> when people are going to get well. They just get so positive. And this

guy

>> really got into it.

>> He was buying more books on it. And then I had him getting up out of bed,

>> probably in a week, and doing the juicing himself. That's important too.

>>

>> BISER: Within the week, he was not dead?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Within a week, he was up, standing in the kitchen, holding on to

>> the counter a little bit, wheezing and juicing. We went through a lot of

>> blood-building juices. He got into mushrooms a lot, you know,

>> immune-stimulating mushrooms and fungi. He had some pretty bad thrush

too,

>> and we dealt with that. His mouth hurt a lot. In fact, the juices were

>> quite

>> painful to drink because his mouth was so full o)f sores.

>>

>> BISER: Did you ever do what Dr did for the mouth oak bark?

>>

>> SCHULZE: You can, and that works really nice. But the tea tree oil works

>> even better, and it soothes and heals thrush in a 2-10% solution. One o)f

>> the best brands is called Thursday Plantation. It's in all the health

food

>> stores. It's excellent. Another source is from Frontier Herbs. (These are

>> listed in our Appendix on Sources.

>>

>> BISER: How much did he take and in what form?

>>

>> SCHULZE: We made a gargle out of it. They didn't have any products back

>> then, so we just made a gargle out of tea tree oil, and a mouthwash, and

>> rinsed his mouth with it. It really destroys the fungus andi also reduces

>> the inflammation.

>>

>> But the oak bark works really nice, too. In fact, I usually ---for people

>> like that, I make some kind of tooth powder, and I know I did for him.

And

>> it would have contained oak bark.

>>

>> " He was cured in eight months, but relapsed slightly almost two years

>> later

>> when he went off his programs. "

>>

>> BISER: Asyon told me, eight months later he walks znto your office a

cured

>> man?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Abso)lutely When he go)t stro~ng, it was like the stuff jumped

>> o~ut

>> o~f his bo~dy. And, o)f co~urse ---- we think o)f AIDS as a disease, but

>> it

>> really isn't. It's just the combinatio~n of diseases that happens when

>> y(~ur

>> immune system gets depressed.

>>

>> You build up your immune system and.. oh, and this guy ended up no)t even

>> testing HIV positive. I almost forgot that. It's supposed to be

>> impossible,

>> but then, in the last 5 years, I've heard of hundreds of cases like that.

>>

>> In other words, he got so well they couldn't even find the antibody for

>> HIV

>> in him. And that's how you know that a lot of the information out there

is

>> garbage. For example, 5% of AIDS cases today don't test HIV-positive.

>>

>> His lung fibrosis went away, but there was always some scar tissue in

>> there.

>> His lungs were never 100%, but they could have been if he had done more

>> work

>> in that direction.

>>

>> But I do remember that a couple of years after, he had a slip, and

>> this is quite common. And his T-cell count started going down. He had a

>> relapse and, o)f course, he had gone off his program. He got back onto a

>> program, and everything went back to healthy

>>

>> I had a woman patient who had breast cancer with a malignant tumor,

>> golf-ball size. Got rid of it through natural healing, and she had a lump

>> come back in her breast about 10 times probably every year. When I call

>> her, and she goes back on her program, it goes away. So, it's very common

>> that people, once they feel...

>>

>> BISER: They celebrate

>>

>> " There is life after the incurables program, and it's not back to the

>> life-style that got you in trouble. "

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely I'm not saying that they can't have a Saturday night

5

>> times a year or something. I'm just saying that isn't what they do). The

>> programs just start lessening and lessening, and the next thing you know,

>> they have slipped back into their old ways.

>>

>> He had a few minor relapses again, which I almost see with every patient.

>> It's almost like you could count on this.

>> BISER: Now the relapses are not inevitable. They're caused by going back

>> on

>> junk?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yeah. And everybody seems to have it at some point. You know

what

>> happens is, obviously you get to a point where you go, " Well gosh, if

I've

>> got to stay on this program, maybe I don't want to) live. "

>>

>> It's someone's birthday so I'll have a little bit d)f this cheesecake and

>> a

>> little piece of chicken. And, you know there's no big deal about that.

But

>> then it happens again the next week, and the week after, and then it's

>> two-days-a-week and then it's three-days-a-week.

>>

>> Over a year or two, a person's diet has gotten very sloppy And usually it

>> happens the second year, and then I get the call, " My disease wasn't

gone,

>> it's back. "

>>

>> People have to realize you need to adopt a new healthy life-style for the

>> rest of your life. This is not a program to be chucked when you get well.

>>

>> If we bombard our bodies with so much crap, something is going to go

wrong

>> with us. In immunology you learn that the primary function of the human

>> body

>> is to survive. That's what it is constantly doing. But you have to give

it

>> the natural methods that it needs.

>>

>> Red clover for the skin cancers of AIDS.

>>

>> SCHULZE: I had an older AIDS patient, a man in his late 40's with no

>> problem

>> with his lungs. He wasn't a smoker either. He did have the Karposi's

>> sarcoma, but only on his feet and ankles.

>>

>> But that's usually where it starts. He had a T-cell count down there.

>> We're

>> looking at, I think at one point it was 100, which isn't uncommon with

>> AIDS

>> patients.

>>

>> And, of course, once his T-cell count hit 100, that's when he started

>> having

>> the Karposi's sarcoma. The red blotches came out about grape-size all

over

>> the bottom of his feet on his ankles. He might have had one or two on his

>> arms, but primarily on his feet.

>> He was a writer - wrote novels and some poetry. He was pretty much ready

>> to

>> give up. All these people who come to see me just want to know if they

can

>> get their digestion better, because they are having diarrhea and this and

>> that.

>>

>> After I overwhelm them for two hours in my office, they believe they have

>> a

>> chance.

>>

>> But none of them ever have an idea of really beating it. I would love to

>> get

>> some people with AIDS who really want to beat the disease.

>>

>> BISER: But that is not what they want from you?

>>

>> SCHULZE: No, they just want to feel comfortable; because everybody has

>> told

>> them, including all o)f their friends, that they are dead.

>>

>> SCHULZE: They were not trying, but he was. I thought that he was a pretty

>> healthy guy He wasn't one o)f these wasted-away ones

>>

>> BISER: So you helped this guy right?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yea, but he did have the Karposi's sarcoma cancer which is

>> considered a malignant cancer. He had some meat on his bones. He was also

>> in

>> a monogamous relationship.

>>

>> I'm not so sure if he contracted AIDS because of his homosexual activity

>> on

>> the sidle, o)r maybe he did some intravenous drugs. I wasn't so sure

about

>> how; maybe an occasional weekend in a bath ho)use --- but he did

something

>> that dropped his immune system.

>>

>> BISER: Did this guy get rid of this Karposi's sarcoma?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely A complete turnaround. I'm going to say it was about

>> eight months before he didn't have a blotch on his body And, of course,

we

>> also) treated that externally. We did a few kind of odd things with him.

>> Red

>> clover. I'm a big fan of red clover, topically, when you are talking

about

>> skin cancers.

>>

>> BISER: Red clover what? Like a paste?

>>

>> SCHULZE: You can make it into a paste in a blender with the poke root you

>> can take the red clover blossoms, just fresh or dried, and put them right

>> in

>> your blender with anything else you'd want to put on it.

>> Also, I'm sure it would have been slippery elm, a little bit of garlic;

>> because I didn't want to burn his skin, but I wanted some garlic in

there,

>> and apple cider vinegar, charcoal and bloodroot.

>>

>> BISER: Not even poke root?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Oh yes, poke root. And poke root, if it's fresh, will burn

>> through

>> the skin similar to garlic. Dried poke root won't do that. It's a lot

less

>> volatile. I didn't want to burn this off, because it's just like purple

>> bruises. It's not like there is something there like a wart. But I wanted

>> some garlic and I used dried poke root. The red clover is so brilliant

for

>> skin cancers.

>>

>> BISER: You mean sometimes you will use it by itself?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Oh yea, in Dr. 's boo)k, School of Natural Healing,

>> there are cancer plasters.

>>

>> BISER: What does plaster mean, just a concentrate?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yea, I think he talks about simmering down red clover blossom

>> heads

>> similar to the hawthorn berry tonic. We end up with a syrup of red clover

>> and you spread that on the skin.

>>

>> Nowadays, what we might do instead are cold extracts like tinctures where

>> you are concentrating by extracting. But what I usually do rather have

>> someone use something over a long period of time. So, you can just take

>> fresh red clover heads, put them in a blender, add a little bit of

>> vinegar,

>> a little bit of slippery elm or if you want to draw, use clay And just a

>> little bit of garlic, like a clove of garlic.

>>

>> I know I am not giving you a total recipe here, but it's one of those

>> things...

>>

>> BISER: Yea, I know, you mix it up on the fly

>>

>> SCHULZE: You blend that up, and you have yourself a paste, and it's like

a

>> reddish-brown because of the red clover. It adheres right to the skin

>> because you put the slippery elm in there to hold it together.

>> We would pack his feet in that at night, and just get it right over that

>> cancer. Although cancer is systemic, when you have cancer that you can

see

>> on the body, why not treat it right on top?

>>

>> We packed his feet in that at night. He did the whole incurables routine.

>> He

>> got better, he got stronger, his T-cell count kept going up and up. One

>> thing that people need to know here, too, is: T- cell counts don't go

from

>> 150 to 1500 on a steady line.

>> I mean, sometimes he tested, and it would be like 275 and the next time

>> 230.

>> He'd get depressed, and I'd have to tell these people. " Come on, this is

>> ridiculous. You're heading uphill. "

>>

>> There are bumps. It's like a jagged line, but your direction overall is

>> uphill. I have to remind a lot of people with degenerative disease of

that

>> one. I have to kick their butts. He'd have like a (~ne or two degree slip

>> in

>> his T-cell and he thought that was meaningful or he was getting worse or

>> whatever.

>>

>> His T-cell count started going up and up. He wanted to give up on his

>> feet,

>> because they weren't changing that much. But then sure enough, slowly he

>> got

>> better and better. His T-cell count kind of normalized at about 1200,

>> which

>> isn't necessarily optimum.

>>

>> He didn't know what his was before he got sick, anyway. That could have

>> been

>> normal for him. I feel that anybody who gets AIDS unless they have had a

>> horrendous life-style, probably has a weak immune-type body.

>>

>> Immune types will walk out in public, someone will sneeze and they are

>> HIV-positive. I really believe that. They are susceptible to everything.

>> Because their weakness is in their immune system, in their lymphatic

>> system.

>>

>> All cancer blotches went away and they said it's gone into remission. He

>> was

>> as cured as long as he follows the program.

>> " These methods have saved people who looked like they could have been a

>> dead

>> corpse in a wheelbarrow at a concentration camp. "

>>

>> BISER: have you had many people who were skin and bones?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely I think probably half my patients have been skin and

>> bones types. They took off their shirts to show me a spot, and it was

>> like,

>> " Put your shirt back on. " They had depressions between the ribs. You

could

>> put your fingers in the ruts between the ribs.

>>

>> BISER: Tcell counts of what?

>>

>> SCHULZE: My lowest, I think I told you was 2 and 1; it fluctuated. They

>> said

>> they saw a court o 1. I've had numerous cases down in the 25-30 range.

And

>> I've had them where they looked like... have you ever seen the pictures

>> right after the Americans went into the concentration camps, where they

>> would pick up the dead bodies? They put them in wheelbarrows. Well, a lot

>> of

>> my patients looked like they put A' vacuum inside them and it sucked

>> everything in.

>>

>> BISER: And you pulled them out of that?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely. One problem is that they are not assimilating. They

>> are

>> so ill. How do you cope with their problems? The first thing is a juicer.

>> They have got to get a juicer.

>>

>> BISER: And they are not doing that already when they come to you?

SCHULZE:

>> Oh, God no.

>>

>> BISER: You mean, all this holistic information is floating around the

>> underground and they are not doing that?

>>

>> SCHULZE: I know it's shocking. It really is. Our rules at the clinic have

>> always been, if you are called an incurable and if you don't buy a

juicer,

>> we won't even see you again. I won't work with them, period. That is one

>> of

>> our basic criteria.

>> You look at a person like these Jews from the concentration camps. You

>> think, " Well, if I tell them to eat fatty foods, it will fatten them up. "

>> But they can't assimilate it.

>>

>> The only thing they are going to assimilate is the most basic food and

>> that's juices and herbal drinks.

>>

>> BISER: Have you seen some of those skin and bones come back all the way?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely But these people usually have diarrhea.

>>

>> BISER: How do you stop the diarrhea?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Getting healthy Sometimes we use the intestinal formula number

>> two

>> to solidify it just to make them feel a little bit better, and to soothe

>> and

>> detoxify the bowel. Basically getting their immune system working again

>> will

>> fix the diarrhea.

>>

>> A lot of people think, " I don't want to drink juices; I have diarrhea,

and

>> I

>> need fat in my diet. " They are eating hamburgers o~r something. What we

>> have

>> to tell them is, " Look, you are not assimilating anything. "

>>

>> BISER: You can eat it, but you can't assimilate it!

>>

>> SCHULZE: But you will assimilate these juices. Boy, do they brighten up

on

>> the juices. And then, once they are clean, and they do some bowel

>> cleansing

>> or whatever, they start assimilating, and then you get them on high-fat

>> foods like avocados, sesame tahini, nut butters, whole grain bread, and

>> olive oil.

>>

>> BISER: But that's a long way off

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yea, it is. The juices come first.

>>

>> The cold sheet treatment must be done by AIDS victims.

>>

>> SCHULZE: All AIDS victims need this hydrotherapy. It is mandatory not

>> optional.

>>

>> My wife, who was not ill, still claims that it was the turning point in

>> her

>> life because she had volunteered in class to do it. The treatment

>> was metamorphosis for her. It was like coming out of the cocoon for her

>> physically But it does a lot more than that.

>> Everybody today has some psychological problems, maybe from their

>> childhood,

>> and the cold sheet treatment can release these. Emotional healing is part

>> of

>> the program, especially for people with AIDS. We need t do anything to

>> liberate the immune system. So, don't underestimate what goes on during

>> this

>> cold sheet treatment. It's physical, emotional, spiritual, psychic, and

>> It's

>> powerful.

>>

>> 'A common denominator of AIDS is they hate their lives. "

>>

>> SCHULZE: The common denominator I found in most people with AIDS, now,

I'm

>> not talking about the rare case of the hemophiliac they're at a blood

risk

>> is that they hated themselves.

>>

>> They hated their lives. They thought because they were homosexual, they

>> were

>> going to hell and burn for eternity I mean, you can imagine what went on

>> in

>> their minds. They were immune risks.

>>

>> I had on file patient ---- a man who used to go to the bath houses and

>> have

>> oral sex with 12-15 men in a night--- swallow a pint of semen.

>>

>> Let me put it this way: I have never ever seen anybody get AIDS who

didn't

>> tell me a story of their past that didn't make me just about want to

>> vomit.

>> Okay? I thought I was a pretty hip dude. I mean, I'm from the Woodstock

>> generation. I thought I'd been around a little bit, and when these people

>> come.. well, it's just too much.

>>

>> Most people who get AIDS have the worst life styles. They stay up all

>> night

>> long, they use massive amounts of drugs. You know, when you have multiple

>> sexual partners, it's an immune risk because, you know, when you have sex

>> with someone, whatever that someone is, you're sharing bodily fluids, and

>> our immune system has to eat that.

>>

>> And so, if you're having 12 different partners in a night, your immune

>> system's blowing out. And I you know what the bottom line is, healthy

>> people

>> don't get AIDS. They get sick, but they don't get AIDS.

>>

>> SHULZE http://www.healthfree.com/schulze/

>>

>>

>>

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I should have added that this was a 100% successful, 30 day intense, 24 hour

a day, co-operative, self designed and executed regime.

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Controlled studies, NO.

These men were concerned with saving their lives and avoiding being caught

with the Ozone machine they had smuggled in from Germany, however Ed McCabe,

who introduced me to these men, has chronicled their experience and most of

their stats.

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Larry

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Re: Your AIDS page...

>>

>>

>> >At 10:52 04.01.99 -0500, you wrote:

>> >>I thought I'd take a look at your web page and was somewhat surprised

to

>> >>find that you had one on stating that the body could cure itself of

>> AIDS.

>> >>

>> >>To the best of my knowledge, AIDS is 100% fatal and incurable - or so

>> I've

>> >>been told. Do you have any concrete proof (studies, medical before and

>> after

>> >>diagnosis, etc.) that anyone who has followed this regimen and has

truly

>> had

>> >>a diagnosed case of AIDS has become AIDS-free after following it?

>> >>

>> >>Thanks.

>> >>

>> >

>> >Hi ,

>> >

>> >I have met few years ago people who have reversed AIDS by lifestyle and

>> diet.

>> >

>> >I do not remember their names.

>> >They were stil HIV+ , but they were healthy, without symptoms, and not

>> dead.

>> >

>> >Some other people may have concrete proof, I do not have it.

>> >

>> >Books to read abot some cases:

>> > " Eat Right For Your Type " by Dr. J. D'Adamo

>> > " The Way of Hope " by Tom Monte

>> > " Healing with Whole Foods - Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition " By

>> > Pitchford

>> >

>> >Follow links from this page:

>> >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/books.html or

>> >

>> >Ask DR.DAdamo here : http://www.dadamo.com/

>> >Ask Pitchford here: Heartwood Institute :

>> >http://www.heartwoodinstitute.com/

>> >Ask Tom Monte here : http://www.macrobiotics.org/ki.html

>> >

>> >

>> >Lifestyle and diet can improwe immunity, and immunity can keep HIV under

>> >control.

>> >You have probably heard of people being more than 10 years HIV+, and not

>> >developing AIDS Symptoms.

>> >Their immunity was sufficient enough to not develope AIDS.

>> >

>> >But that is not everything.

>> >

>> >There are few cases of HIV+ in France, where husband and wife have

>> >unprotected Sex for many years and she is still HIV-. Also few cases of

>> >children born HIV- from the mothers HIV+. ???

>> >I have seen it on the French national TV. It was not a Joke. It was

>> serious

>> >program about AIDS, and about people living with HIV+ for many years.

>> >

>> >Also, I have read about few cases of HIV+ becoming HIV-. BUT, There

is

>> >no proof for that - doctors think that the first diagnose was mistake !?

>> >Maybe it wasn't !

>> >

>> >

>> >Dusan

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> Interview with Dr Shulze:

>>

>> " To cure AIDS, its a total life style change --- not a drug or a pill.

>> Natural healing can cure AIDS. But if you are looking for one special

>> anti-viral herb to solve this disease, you're as nuts as the doctors.

How

>> stupid can these experts be (and the patients, too), to believe that a

>> single drug, a chemical on its lonesome, can cure a total body breakdown?

>> We

>> don't need any more research money to cure AIDS. In case you are groggy

or

>> dense and didn't get my point, I will repeat it: AIDS can be cured. Right

>> now. Forget the DNA research. Forget the emotional fund-raisers. They're

>> not

>> necessary. It can also save those who are skin and bone and sores and

>> diarrhea. If you follow all this information, you can end up cured and

>> HIV-negative. Sympathy and understanding cannot cure AIDS. This

>> information

>> will cure --- but only if you use it with all your heart and soul. If

>> people

>> would live right, eat right, think right, use natural healing, and stop

>> taking all drugs, the AIDS epidemic would end. " ----Sam Biser

>>

>> SCHULZE: Referring back to that AIDS case we discussed on the videotapes,

>> he

>> was in the hospital .He had a T-cell count of 1 or 2--- and had about a

>> week

>> to live.

>> He was one of my most dramatic recoveries with AIDS, and the reason I say

>> that is that he was the most far gone. He was in the absolute, end stage

>> --

>> they have that wing in the hospital where they have given up on you. You

>> can

>> smoke pot and do anything you want. They had given up on him.

>>

>> He was the sickest. He was just skin wrapped around bones. I've had

people

>> with Karposi's sarcoma, and I've had people with pneumocystic lung

>> fibrosis,

>> but he was one of the only ones

>> I had that had both lungs diseased full-blown, advanced.

>>

>> BISER: He had red blotches all over his skin.

>>

>> SCHULZE: All over his body. Most people --- usually it's more prevalent

on

>> the feet.

>>

>> BISER: But he had them all over?

>>

>> SCHULZE: He had them on his head, his face, his arm, his chest.

>>

>> BISER: Don't you ever get scared that you, yourself could get something

>> from them?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Again, not that I am perfect, but it's another great motivation

>> to

>> take care o) myself and eat right and live a fairly clean life. But I

also

>> feel --- I've always felt pretty impervious to this stuff. You know how

it

>> is being an Aries.

>>

>> BISER: Oh, you feel rugged

>>

>> SCHULZE: I'm headstrong. I feel tough. I don't believe a lot in the germ

>> theory of disease. In other words, if you do get this sick, you've got to

>> set up an environment for it. I take very good care of myself. I also

know

>> that orthodox medical beliefs about AIDS are wrong.

>>

>> 'A few years ago, I put a lot of energy out that I wanted to work with

>> people with full-blown AIDS. "

>>

>> BISER: You put the word out?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yeah. This was mid-80's --- 1985, maybe. I wanted to let people

>> know that natural healing had no boundaries. AIDS certainly wasn't a

>> boundary, just because it was the new thing.

>>

>> I think I said that somewhere, and it was on an audio tape, and this man

>> heard the tape. So, I went to visit him, even though he only had one week

>> to

>> live. It was like, " Wow " I thought to myself, " Maybe I got into more than

>> I

>> can chew here. " He was bad. But he really believed, even in his horrible

>> state. He believed he could be well.

>>

>> " The only reason the doctor is saying this terminal AIDS patient can't

>> leave

>> the hospital is because he's making $1,000 a day off this guy. It's just

a

>> money thing. "

>>

>> BISER: What did you do immediately so that he wouldn't die in one week?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Got him out of the hospital. This is the hard thing because to

>> lot

>> of people that I see, the doctors say 'If you leave, you'll die. "

>>

>> Well, if you stay there, you're going to die, so get out of there.

Nothing

>> can really be done in a hospital environment. They are feeding you lime

>> Jello. They have IV's with sugar in your arm. So, I said to his boy

>> friend,

>> " They say he's dead. He doesn't want to be here. "

>>

>> Everybody is so alien to this thought of dying at home. For Americans,

>> it's

>> so unusual. I said, " Let's get him the hell out of here. " I said, " Just

>> getting him home would stimulate his immune system. " And so his boyfriend

>> agreed.

>> I had to get an ambulance service to pull this off, because the doctor

>> sits

>> there saying, " No, I don't want to release him. "

>>

>> BISER: So, you got the release.

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yeah. You didn't even have to get a release. Anybody in this

>> country has the right to pull the plug and walk the hell out of a

>> hospital.

>>

>> I called an ambulance service with some big sumo wrestler-type guys, and

>> they just came and had an argument with the doctor myself. I said He

>> wants

>> to go home and that's where he's going.

>> So, we got him home and went the whole route. They had to get a juicer;

>> they

>> didn't have a juicer. We got a juicer on the way home. This guy really

>> became a juice fanatic. Some people do. They drink it, and they feel it,

>> they love it. And I then we did a lot, obviously

>>

>> BISER: By the middle of the next day he was heavy into it?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Not even the middle of the next day. We got him out right then.

>> It

>> wasn't even the next day We got him out right away He was out of there.

>> They

>> picked up the juicer. I went over to their place that night, got them

>> going

>> the juicer --- the whole program.

>>

>> 'juice-fasting is like a blood transfusion for sick patients who are

>> wasting

>> away to death. "

>>

>> BISER: Did he start the herbs that day too?

>>

>> SCHULZE: The first is juice-fasting. That's what I start out heavy with.

>> And

>> then, over the next couple of days, we started into heavy doses of

>> immune-boosting herbs the echinacea. He was doing about 10 dropperfuls a

>> day of echinacea tincture, but also echinacea root tea.

>>

>> BISER: How much echinacea root tea?

>>

>> SCHULZE: I'd say about 4 to 6 cups a day, whatever we could keep down

him.

>> You can't get a lot in.

>>

>> BISER: You knew you might only have a week to make a turnaround

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely. When people are this thin, they tend to not be able

>> to

>> take much in their stomach That's where the tinctures come in really

nice,

>> because you don't have to consume a large volume.

>>

>> We had him on the teas, we had him on the detoxes, liver flushes,

>> bowel-cleansing. We were doing a lot of enemas because his bowel wasn't

>> working at all.

>>

>> I also did heavy bowel-cleansing to stop the constipation and diarrhea.

>>

>> There wasn't much coming out. There was very dark, hard material, you

know

>> just like chunks of debris. They had him on some pain stuff, and that

>> stopped his bowels. One thing that was important with him was the juices

>> really boosted him up.

>>

>> BISER: What kind of juices?

>>

>> SCHULZE: One of my favorites, and we used this with him, is carrot,

>> beetroot and beet leaf.

>>

>> BISER: A mixture of those three?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Like 50% carrot and 25% beet root and 25% beet leaf. I remember

>> his

>> blood count was very low We got his blood count normalized in 3 days. Not

>> his T-cells, but his red blood cells. His hemoglobin count was very low

>>

>> BISER: What did his boyfriend think when, in three days, his blood count

>> was

>> going to normal?

>>

>> SCHULZE: He was just thrilled. His hemoglobin count had been down very

low

>> at the bottom of the level. He had been white and pasty and weak. The

>> blood

>> count was so low you could almost see through him.

>>

>> In three days, his blood count was almost over the top. And his coloor

was

>> back, and he had lots of energy I got the two of them some books on

>> juices,

>> and their juicer was running all the time.

>>

>> Most of the cancer, the Karposi's sarcoma, is just blotchy but there were

>> some areas where he had some horrible skin; and there was even some

>> elimination coming out of it. So, we did a lot of drawing stuff on that

to

>> clear him out.

>>

>> BISER: Poke root poultices

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yes, and a lot of skin-brushing. Whenever people have cancer, I

>> always use that same black drawing poultice with the clay, the charcoal,

>> poke root, garlic, goldenseal and just try to disinfect -- burn a little

>> and

>> get it out.

>>

>> Then we started working with the lungs because he had 50) many things

>> going

>> on. But this guy became an absolute raging fanatic --- you almost know it

>> when people are going to get well. They just get so positive. And this

guy

>> really got into it.

>> He was buying more books on it. And then I had him getting up out of bed,

>> probably in a week, and doing the juicing himself. That's important too.

>>

>> BISER: Within the week, he was not dead?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Within a week, he was up, standing in the kitchen, holding on to

>> the counter a little bit, wheezing and juicing. We went through a lot of

>> blood-building juices. He got into mushrooms a lot, you know,

>> immune-stimulating mushrooms and fungi. He had some pretty bad thrush

too,

>> and we dealt with that. His mouth hurt a lot. In fact, the juices were

>> quite

>> painful to drink because his mouth was so full o)f sores.

>>

>> BISER: Did you ever do what Dr did for the mouth oak bark?

>>

>> SCHULZE: You can, and that works really nice. But the tea tree oil works

>> even better, and it soothes and heals thrush in a 2-10% solution. One o)f

>> the best brands is called Thursday Plantation. It's in all the health

food

>> stores. It's excellent. Another source is from Frontier Herbs. (These are

>> listed in our Appendix on Sources.

>>

>> BISER: How much did he take and in what form?

>>

>> SCHULZE: We made a gargle out of it. They didn't have any products back

>> then, so we just made a gargle out of tea tree oil, and a mouthwash, and

>> rinsed his mouth with it. It really destroys the fungus andi also reduces

>> the inflammation.

>>

>> But the oak bark works really nice, too. In fact, I usually ---for people

>> like that, I make some kind of tooth powder, and I know I did for him.

And

>> it would have contained oak bark.

>>

>> " He was cured in eight months, but relapsed slightly almost two years

>> later

>> when he went off his programs. "

>>

>> BISER: Asyon told me, eight months later he walks znto your office a

cured

>> man?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Abso)lutely When he go)t stro~ng, it was like the stuff jumped

>> o~ut

>> o~f his bo~dy. And, o)f co~urse ---- we think o)f AIDS as a disease, but

>> it

>> really isn't. It's just the combinatio~n of diseases that happens when

>> y(~ur

>> immune system gets depressed.

>>

>> You build up your immune system and.. oh, and this guy ended up no)t even

>> testing HIV positive. I almost forgot that. It's supposed to be

>> impossible,

>> but then, in the last 5 years, I've heard of hundreds of cases like that.

>>

>> In other words, he got so well they couldn't even find the antibody for

>> HIV

>> in him. And that's how you know that a lot of the information out there

is

>> garbage. For example, 5% of AIDS cases today don't test HIV-positive.

>>

>> His lung fibrosis went away, but there was always some scar tissue in

>> there.

>> His lungs were never 100%, but they could have been if he had done more

>> work

>> in that direction.

>>

>> But I do remember that a couple of years after, he had a slip, and

>> this is quite common. And his T-cell count started going down. He had a

>> relapse and, o)f course, he had gone off his program. He got back onto a

>> program, and everything went back to healthy

>>

>> I had a woman patient who had breast cancer with a malignant tumor,

>> golf-ball size. Got rid of it through natural healing, and she had a lump

>> come back in her breast about 10 times probably every year. When I call

>> her, and she goes back on her program, it goes away. So, it's very common

>> that people, once they feel...

>>

>> BISER: They celebrate

>>

>> " There is life after the incurables program, and it's not back to the

>> life-style that got you in trouble. "

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely I'm not saying that they can't have a Saturday night

5

>> times a year or something. I'm just saying that isn't what they do). The

>> programs just start lessening and lessening, and the next thing you know,

>> they have slipped back into their old ways.

>>

>> He had a few minor relapses again, which I almost see with every patient.

>> It's almost like you could count on this.

>> BISER: Now the relapses are not inevitable. They're caused by going back

>> on

>> junk?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yeah. And everybody seems to have it at some point. You know

what

>> happens is, obviously you get to a point where you go, " Well gosh, if

I've

>> got to stay on this program, maybe I don't want to) live. "

>>

>> It's someone's birthday so I'll have a little bit d)f this cheesecake and

>> a

>> little piece of chicken. And, you know there's no big deal about that.

But

>> then it happens again the next week, and the week after, and then it's

>> two-days-a-week and then it's three-days-a-week.

>>

>> Over a year or two, a person's diet has gotten very sloppy And usually it

>> happens the second year, and then I get the call, " My disease wasn't

gone,

>> it's back. "

>>

>> People have to realize you need to adopt a new healthy life-style for the

>> rest of your life. This is not a program to be chucked when you get well.

>>

>> If we bombard our bodies with so much crap, something is going to go

wrong

>> with us. In immunology you learn that the primary function of the human

>> body

>> is to survive. That's what it is constantly doing. But you have to give

it

>> the natural methods that it needs.

>>

>> Red clover for the skin cancers of AIDS.

>>

>> SCHULZE: I had an older AIDS patient, a man in his late 40's with no

>> problem

>> with his lungs. He wasn't a smoker either. He did have the Karposi's

>> sarcoma, but only on his feet and ankles.

>>

>> But that's usually where it starts. He had a T-cell count down there.

>> We're

>> looking at, I think at one point it was 100, which isn't uncommon with

>> AIDS

>> patients.

>>

>> And, of course, once his T-cell count hit 100, that's when he started

>> having

>> the Karposi's sarcoma. The red blotches came out about grape-size all

over

>> the bottom of his feet on his ankles. He might have had one or two on his

>> arms, but primarily on his feet.

>> He was a writer - wrote novels and some poetry. He was pretty much ready

>> to

>> give up. All these people who come to see me just want to know if they

can

>> get their digestion better, because they are having diarrhea and this and

>> that.

>>

>> After I overwhelm them for two hours in my office, they believe they have

>> a

>> chance.

>>

>> But none of them ever have an idea of really beating it. I would love to

>> get

>> some people with AIDS who really want to beat the disease.

>>

>> BISER: But that is not what they want from you?

>>

>> SCHULZE: No, they just want to feel comfortable; because everybody has

>> told

>> them, including all o)f their friends, that they are dead.

>>

>> SCHULZE: They were not trying, but he was. I thought that he was a pretty

>> healthy guy He wasn't one o)f these wasted-away ones

>>

>> BISER: So you helped this guy right?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yea, but he did have the Karposi's sarcoma cancer which is

>> considered a malignant cancer. He had some meat on his bones. He was also

>> in

>> a monogamous relationship.

>>

>> I'm not so sure if he contracted AIDS because of his homosexual activity

>> on

>> the sidle, o)r maybe he did some intravenous drugs. I wasn't so sure

about

>> how; maybe an occasional weekend in a bath ho)use --- but he did

something

>> that dropped his immune system.

>>

>> BISER: Did this guy get rid of this Karposi's sarcoma?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely A complete turnaround. I'm going to say it was about

>> eight months before he didn't have a blotch on his body And, of course,

we

>> also) treated that externally. We did a few kind of odd things with him.

>> Red

>> clover. I'm a big fan of red clover, topically, when you are talking

about

>> skin cancers.

>>

>> BISER: Red clover what? Like a paste?

>>

>> SCHULZE: You can make it into a paste in a blender with the poke root you

>> can take the red clover blossoms, just fresh or dried, and put them right

>> in

>> your blender with anything else you'd want to put on it.

>> Also, I'm sure it would have been slippery elm, a little bit of garlic;

>> because I didn't want to burn his skin, but I wanted some garlic in

there,

>> and apple cider vinegar, charcoal and bloodroot.

>>

>> BISER: Not even poke root?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Oh yes, poke root. And poke root, if it's fresh, will burn

>> through

>> the skin similar to garlic. Dried poke root won't do that. It's a lot

less

>> volatile. I didn't want to burn this off, because it's just like purple

>> bruises. It's not like there is something there like a wart. But I wanted

>> some garlic and I used dried poke root. The red clover is so brilliant

for

>> skin cancers.

>>

>> BISER: You mean sometimes you will use it by itself?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Oh yea, in Dr. 's boo)k, School of Natural Healing,

>> there are cancer plasters.

>>

>> BISER: What does plaster mean, just a concentrate?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yea, I think he talks about simmering down red clover blossom

>> heads

>> similar to the hawthorn berry tonic. We end up with a syrup of red clover

>> and you spread that on the skin.

>>

>> Nowadays, what we might do instead are cold extracts like tinctures where

>> you are concentrating by extracting. But what I usually do rather have

>> someone use something over a long period of time. So, you can just take

>> fresh red clover heads, put them in a blender, add a little bit of

>> vinegar,

>> a little bit of slippery elm or if you want to draw, use clay And just a

>> little bit of garlic, like a clove of garlic.

>>

>> I know I am not giving you a total recipe here, but it's one of those

>> things...

>>

>> BISER: Yea, I know, you mix it up on the fly

>>

>> SCHULZE: You blend that up, and you have yourself a paste, and it's like

a

>> reddish-brown because of the red clover. It adheres right to the skin

>> because you put the slippery elm in there to hold it together.

>> We would pack his feet in that at night, and just get it right over that

>> cancer. Although cancer is systemic, when you have cancer that you can

see

>> on the body, why not treat it right on top?

>>

>> We packed his feet in that at night. He did the whole incurables routine.

>> He

>> got better, he got stronger, his T-cell count kept going up and up. One

>> thing that people need to know here, too, is: T- cell counts don't go

from

>> 150 to 1500 on a steady line.

>> I mean, sometimes he tested, and it would be like 275 and the next time

>> 230.

>> He'd get depressed, and I'd have to tell these people. " Come on, this is

>> ridiculous. You're heading uphill. "

>>

>> There are bumps. It's like a jagged line, but your direction overall is

>> uphill. I have to remind a lot of people with degenerative disease of

that

>> one. I have to kick their butts. He'd have like a (~ne or two degree slip

>> in

>> his T-cell and he thought that was meaningful or he was getting worse or

>> whatever.

>>

>> His T-cell count started going up and up. He wanted to give up on his

>> feet,

>> because they weren't changing that much. But then sure enough, slowly he

>> got

>> better and better. His T-cell count kind of normalized at about 1200,

>> which

>> isn't necessarily optimum.

>>

>> He didn't know what his was before he got sick, anyway. That could have

>> been

>> normal for him. I feel that anybody who gets AIDS unless they have had a

>> horrendous life-style, probably has a weak immune-type body.

>>

>> Immune types will walk out in public, someone will sneeze and they are

>> HIV-positive. I really believe that. They are susceptible to everything.

>> Because their weakness is in their immune system, in their lymphatic

>> system.

>>

>> All cancer blotches went away and they said it's gone into remission. He

>> was

>> as cured as long as he follows the program.

>> " These methods have saved people who looked like they could have been a

>> dead

>> corpse in a wheelbarrow at a concentration camp. "

>>

>> BISER: have you had many people who were skin and bones?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely I think probably half my patients have been skin and

>> bones types. They took off their shirts to show me a spot, and it was

>> like,

>> " Put your shirt back on. " They had depressions between the ribs. You

could

>> put your fingers in the ruts between the ribs.

>>

>> BISER: Tcell counts of what?

>>

>> SCHULZE: My lowest, I think I told you was 2 and 1; it fluctuated. They

>> said

>> they saw a court o 1. I've had numerous cases down in the 25-30 range.

And

>> I've had them where they looked like... have you ever seen the pictures

>> right after the Americans went into the concentration camps, where they

>> would pick up the dead bodies? They put them in wheelbarrows. Well, a lot

>> of

>> my patients looked like they put A' vacuum inside them and it sucked

>> everything in.

>>

>> BISER: And you pulled them out of that?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely. One problem is that they are not assimilating. They

>> are

>> so ill. How do you cope with their problems? The first thing is a juicer.

>> They have got to get a juicer.

>>

>> BISER: And they are not doing that already when they come to you?

SCHULZE:

>> Oh, God no.

>>

>> BISER: You mean, all this holistic information is floating around the

>> underground and they are not doing that?

>>

>> SCHULZE: I know it's shocking. It really is. Our rules at the clinic have

>> always been, if you are called an incurable and if you don't buy a

juicer,

>> we won't even see you again. I won't work with them, period. That is one

>> of

>> our basic criteria.

>> You look at a person like these Jews from the concentration camps. You

>> think, " Well, if I tell them to eat fatty foods, it will fatten them up. "

>> But they can't assimilate it.

>>

>> The only thing they are going to assimilate is the most basic food and

>> that's juices and herbal drinks.

>>

>> BISER: Have you seen some of those skin and bones come back all the way?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Absolutely But these people usually have diarrhea.

>>

>> BISER: How do you stop the diarrhea?

>>

>> SCHULZE: Getting healthy Sometimes we use the intestinal formula number

>> two

>> to solidify it just to make them feel a little bit better, and to soothe

>> and

>> detoxify the bowel. Basically getting their immune system working again

>> will

>> fix the diarrhea.

>>

>> A lot of people think, " I don't want to drink juices; I have diarrhea,

and

>> I

>> need fat in my diet. " They are eating hamburgers o~r something. What we

>> have

>> to tell them is, " Look, you are not assimilating anything. "

>>

>> BISER: You can eat it, but you can't assimilate it!

>>

>> SCHULZE: But you will assimilate these juices. Boy, do they brighten up

on

>> the juices. And then, once they are clean, and they do some bowel

>> cleansing

>> or whatever, they start assimilating, and then you get them on high-fat

>> foods like avocados, sesame tahini, nut butters, whole grain bread, and

>> olive oil.

>>

>> BISER: But that's a long way off

>>

>> SCHULZE: Yea, it is. The juices come first.

>>

>> The cold sheet treatment must be done by AIDS victims.

>>

>> SCHULZE: All AIDS victims need this hydrotherapy. It is mandatory not

>> optional.

>>

>> My wife, who was not ill, still claims that it was the turning point in

>> her

>> life because she had volunteered in class to do it. The treatment

>> was metamorphosis for her. It was like coming out of the cocoon for her

>> physically But it does a lot more than that.

>> Everybody today has some psychological problems, maybe from their

>> childhood,

>> and the cold sheet treatment can release these. Emotional healing is part

>> of

>> the program, especially for people with AIDS. We need t do anything to

>> liberate the immune system. So, don't underestimate what goes on during

>> this

>> cold sheet treatment. It's physical, emotional, spiritual, psychic, and

>> It's

>> powerful.

>>

>> 'A common denominator of AIDS is they hate their lives. "

>>

>> SCHULZE: The common denominator I found in most people with AIDS, now,

I'm

>> not talking about the rare case of the hemophiliac they're at a blood

risk

>> is that they hated themselves.

>>

>> They hated their lives. They thought because they were homosexual, they

>> were

>> going to hell and burn for eternity I mean, you can imagine what went on

>> in

>> their minds. They were immune risks.

>>

>> I had on file patient ---- a man who used to go to the bath houses and

>> have

>> oral sex with 12-15 men in a night--- swallow a pint of semen.

>>

>> Let me put it this way: I have never ever seen anybody get AIDS who

didn't

>> tell me a story of their past that didn't make me just about want to

>> vomit.

>> Okay? I thought I was a pretty hip dude. I mean, I'm from the Woodstock

>> generation. I thought I'd been around a little bit, and when these people

>> come.. well, it's just too much.

>>

>> Most people who get AIDS have the worst life styles. They stay up all

>> night

>> long, they use massive amounts of drugs. You know, when you have multiple

>> sexual partners, it's an immune risk because, you know, when you have sex

>> with someone, whatever that someone is, you're sharing bodily fluids, and

>> our immune system has to eat that.

>>

>> And so, if you're having 12 different partners in a night, your immune

>> system's blowing out. And I you know what the bottom line is, healthy

>> people

>> don't get AIDS. They get sick, but they don't get AIDS.

>>

>> SHULZE http://www.healthfree.com/schulze/

>>

>>

>>

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Sylvain,

I haven't discussed my theories here. We've only been talking science. I

don't know where you did your research, but it sounds like it was based on a

medical source that examines mostly sick people. The source traditionally

used by most medical schools listed the normal range as 200 to 2000 when I last

looked. I know very healthy people who test well below the normal range. I

think this says more about the dangers of medical testing than anything else.

If you want to test for something, get some litmus paper and test for your

pH. I'll bet you're an acidic 6.0 or lower. An acid pH creates an

environment friendly to bacteria and cancer.

You obviously are a believer in the virus and the MDs (Merchants of Doom).

Watching you CD4s drop had to be stressful for you -- especially below the

magic number of 200. All disease is multifactorial and everyone I have ever

spoken to believes that stress is a major, or maybe the major, factor in

shingles. I had it once. It isn't fun. It was very painful and kept me out

of

commission for about a month, and then it was over.

I don't understand the logic to your statement that you can't take a chance

that HIV exists. You are taking a tremendous chance with your life by going

to anyone who treats it.

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as much as I would like to believe in your theory, the fact is that I

started to have shingles when my CD4 dropped below 200 and I also had

a 3 weeks long herpes outbreak, my longest ever. With the help of

chinese medicine, I got rid of it, hopefully it won't come back.

I did some research and all I could find is that the normal CD4 count

is 600-1200.

I can't take the chance that HIV exists and leads to AIDS. Even if it

doesn't, I would like to become HIV negative for social reason. In

China, an HIV positive foreigner can not marry a Chinese local so for

my chinese gf, it is another worthy reason to pursue my quest.

Sylvain

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Sylvain,

I haven't discussed my theories here. We've only been talking science. I

don't know where you did your research, but it sounds like it was based on a

medical source that examines mostly sick people. The source traditionally

used by most medical schools listed the normal range as 200 to 2000 when I last

looked. I know very healthy people who test well below the normal range. I

think this says more about the dangers of medical testing than anything else.

If you want to test for something, get some litmus paper and test for your

pH. I'll bet you're an acidic 6.0 or lower. An acid pH creates an

environment friendly to bacteria and cancer.

You obviously are a believer in the virus and the MDs (Merchants of Doom).

Watching you CD4s drop had to be stressful for you -- especially below the

magic number of 200. All disease is multifactorial and everyone I have ever

spoken to believes that stress is a major, or maybe the major, factor in

shingles. I had it once. It isn't fun. It was very painful and kept me out

of

commission for about a month, and then it was over.

I don't understand the logic to your statement that you can't take a chance

that HIV exists. You are taking a tremendous chance with your life by going

to anyone who treats it.

In a message dated 5/6/2007 12:35:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

happytype@... writes:

,

as much as I would like to believe in your theory, the fact is that I

started to have shingles when my CD4 dropped below 200 and I also had

a 3 weeks long herpes outbreak, my longest ever. With the help of

chinese medicine, I got rid of it, hopefully it won't come back.

I did some research and all I could find is that the normal CD4 count

is 600-1200.

I can't take the chance that HIV exists and leads to AIDS. Even if it

doesn't, I would like to become HIV negative for social reason. In

China, an HIV positive foreigner can not marry a Chinese local so for

my chinese gf, it is another worthy reason to pursue my quest.

Sylvain

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That was funny .....! We can only pray and hope....!

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I hope your cure, an already available drug, is a truth serum, because AIDS

is a fraud. It is a collection of lies. The only cure for a lie is the

truth. We don't need a drug. We don't need more research. We don't need to

raise more money. And we don't need doctors who practice " HIV medicine. " We

need

the truth -- pure and simple. Is your plan to administer truth serum to the

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That was funny .....! We can only pray and hope....!

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

(Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

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www.medicalozone.info

www.bloodozonation.com

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Sent: May-06-07 8:35 AM

cures for AIDS

Subject: Re: AIDS CURE

Saafan,

I hope your cure, an already available drug, is a truth serum, because AIDS

is a fraud. It is a collection of lies. The only cure for a lie is the

truth. We don't need a drug. We don't need more research. We don't need to

raise more money. And we don't need doctors who practice " HIV medicine. " We

need

the truth -- pure and simple. Is your plan to administer truth serum to the

doctors and politicians?

My story is here: _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

and here: _Diary of an AIDS Dissident_

(http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident)

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,

as much as I would like to believe in your theory, the fact is that I

started to have shingles when my CD4 dropped below 200 and I also had

a 3 weeks long herpes outbreak, my longest ever. With the help of

chinese medicine, I got rid of it, hopefully it won't come back.

I did some research and all I could find is that the normal CD4 count

is 600-1200.

I can't take the chance that HIV exists and leads to AIDS. Even if it

doesn't, I would like to become HIV negative for social reason. In

China, an HIV positive foreigner can not marry a Chinese local so for

my chinese gf, it is another worthy reason to pursue my quest.

Sylvain

>

>

>

> Saafan,

> I hope your cure, an already available drug, is a truth serum,

because AIDS

> is a fraud. It is a collection of lies. The only cure for a lie is

the

> truth. We don't need a drug. We don't need more research. We

don't need to

> raise more money. And we don't need doctors who practice " HIV

medicine. " We need

> the truth -- pure and simple. Is your plan to administer truth

serum to the

> doctors and politicians?

>

> My story is here: _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

> and here: _Diary of an AIDS Dissident_

> (http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident)

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/6/2007 3:18:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> alsafi52@... writes:

>

> My story is on the following site:

> _http://saafan-http://sahttp://sahttp_

(http://saafan-aidscure.blogspot.com/)

> Saafan

>

>

>

>

>

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> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They

may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

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,

as much as I would like to believe in your theory, the fact is that I

started to have shingles when my CD4 dropped below 200 and I also had

a 3 weeks long herpes outbreak, my longest ever. With the help of

chinese medicine, I got rid of it, hopefully it won't come back.

I did some research and all I could find is that the normal CD4 count

is 600-1200.

I can't take the chance that HIV exists and leads to AIDS. Even if it

doesn't, I would like to become HIV negative for social reason. In

China, an HIV positive foreigner can not marry a Chinese local so for

my chinese gf, it is another worthy reason to pursue my quest.

Sylvain

>

>

>

> Saafan,

> I hope your cure, an already available drug, is a truth serum,

because AIDS

> is a fraud. It is a collection of lies. The only cure for a lie is

the

> truth. We don't need a drug. We don't need more research. We

don't need to

> raise more money. And we don't need doctors who practice " HIV

medicine. " We need

> the truth -- pure and simple. Is your plan to administer truth

serum to the

> doctors and politicians?

>

> My story is here: _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

> and here: _Diary of an AIDS Dissident_

> (http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident)

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/6/2007 3:18:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> alsafi52@... writes:

>

> My story is on the following site:

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> Saafan

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Saafan

aidsisover@... wrote:

Sylvain,

I haven't discussed my theories here. We've only been talking science. I

don't know where you did your research, but it sounds like it was based on a

medical source that examines mostly sick people. The source traditionally

used by most medical schools listed the normal range as 200 to 2000 when I last

looked. I know very healthy people who test well below the normal range. I

think this says more about the dangers of medical testing than anything else.

If you want to test for something, get some litmus paper and test for your

pH. I'll bet you're an acidic 6.0 or lower. An acid pH creates an

environment friendly to bacteria and cancer.

You obviously are a believer in the virus and the MDs (Merchants of Doom).

Watching you CD4s drop had to be stressful for you -- especially below the

magic number of 200. All disease is multifactorial and everyone I have ever

spoken to believes that stress is a major, or maybe the major, factor in

shingles. I had it once. It isn't fun. It was very painful and kept me out of

commission for about a month, and then it was over.

I don't understand the logic to your statement that you can't take a chance

that HIV exists. You are taking a tremendous chance with your life by going

to anyone who treats it.

In a message dated 5/6/2007 12:35:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

happytype@... writes:

,

as much as I would like to believe in your theory, the fact is that I

started to have shingles when my CD4 dropped below 200 and I also had

a 3 weeks long herpes outbreak, my longest ever. With the help of

chinese medicine, I got rid of it, hopefully it won't come back.

I did some research and all I could find is that the normal CD4 count

is 600-1200.

I can't take the chance that HIV exists and leads to AIDS. Even if it

doesn't, I would like to become HIV negative for social reason. In

China, an HIV positive foreigner can not marry a Chinese local so for

my chinese gf, it is another worthy reason to pursue my quest.

Sylvain

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Saafan

aidsisover@... wrote:

Sylvain,

I haven't discussed my theories here. We've only been talking science. I

don't know where you did your research, but it sounds like it was based on a

medical source that examines mostly sick people. The source traditionally

used by most medical schools listed the normal range as 200 to 2000 when I last

looked. I know very healthy people who test well below the normal range. I

think this says more about the dangers of medical testing than anything else.

If you want to test for something, get some litmus paper and test for your

pH. I'll bet you're an acidic 6.0 or lower. An acid pH creates an

environment friendly to bacteria and cancer.

You obviously are a believer in the virus and the MDs (Merchants of Doom).

Watching you CD4s drop had to be stressful for you -- especially below the

magic number of 200. All disease is multifactorial and everyone I have ever

spoken to believes that stress is a major, or maybe the major, factor in

shingles. I had it once. It isn't fun. It was very painful and kept me out of

commission for about a month, and then it was over.

I don't understand the logic to your statement that you can't take a chance

that HIV exists. You are taking a tremendous chance with your life by going

to anyone who treats it.

In a message dated 5/6/2007 12:35:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

happytype@... writes:

,

as much as I would like to believe in your theory, the fact is that I

started to have shingles when my CD4 dropped below 200 and I also had

a 3 weeks long herpes outbreak, my longest ever. With the help of

chinese medicine, I got rid of it, hopefully it won't come back.

I did some research and all I could find is that the normal CD4 count

is 600-1200.

I can't take the chance that HIV exists and leads to AIDS. Even if it

doesn't, I would like to become HIV negative for social reason. In

China, an HIV positive foreigner can not marry a Chinese local so for

my chinese gf, it is another worthy reason to pursue my quest.

Sylvain

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My friend

I am not interested in money!!!!!!! You can access my publications at

Pubmed!!!!!!! We cannot guarnatee that a drug is effective unless we try it on

patients!!!!!! I am confident that my drug is safe 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I

am a Pharmacologist not a Herbalist!!!!!!

I got my Ph.D. from the United Kingdom in 1985!!!!!

Drug companies are not interested in Curing AIDS because they will not be able

to continue producing new drugs to alleviate the symptoms and complications of

AIDS!!!!! That's why they refuse any proposal on Cure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Best wishes.

Saafan

aidsisover@... wrote:

Saafan,

I hope your cure, an already available drug, is a truth serum, because AIDS

is a fraud. It is a collection of lies. The only cure for a lie is the

truth. We don't need a drug. We don't need more research. We don't need to

raise more money. And we don't need doctors who practice " HIV medicine. " We need

the truth -- pure and simple. Is your plan to administer truth serum to the

doctors and politicians?

My story is here: _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

and here: _Diary of an AIDS Dissident_

(http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident)

In a message dated 5/6/2007 3:18:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

alsafi52@... writes:

My story is on the following site:

_http://saafan-http://sahttp://sahttp_ (http://saafan-aidscure.blogspot.com/)

Saafan

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My friend

I am not interested in money!!!!!!! You can access my publications at

Pubmed!!!!!!! We cannot guarnatee that a drug is effective unless we try it on

patients!!!!!! I am confident that my drug is safe 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I

am a Pharmacologist not a Herbalist!!!!!!

I got my Ph.D. from the United Kingdom in 1985!!!!!

Drug companies are not interested in Curing AIDS because they will not be able

to continue producing new drugs to alleviate the symptoms and complications of

AIDS!!!!! That's why they refuse any proposal on Cure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Best wishes.

Saafan

aidsisover@... wrote:

Saafan,

I hope your cure, an already available drug, is a truth serum, because AIDS

is a fraud. It is a collection of lies. The only cure for a lie is the

truth. We don't need a drug. We don't need more research. We don't need to

raise more money. And we don't need doctors who practice " HIV medicine. " We need

the truth -- pure and simple. Is your plan to administer truth serum to the

doctors and politicians?

My story is here: _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

and here: _Diary of an AIDS Dissident_

(http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident)

In a message dated 5/6/2007 3:18:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

alsafi52@... writes:

My story is on the following site:

_http://saafan-http://sahttp://sahttp_ (http://saafan-aidscure.blogspot.com/)

Saafan

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,

Yes, it was funny, but so was the stem cell post and all these other

people curing AIDS with something fancy and expensive. I can cure it

with nothing more than common sense (which is not so common in the

age of medical madness) and maybe some vigorous vibration -- which is

really what rebounding produces.

Ed

http://sobehealthy.com

-

-- In cures for AIDS , " Ozoneuniversity " <peter@...> wrote:

>

> That was funny .....! We can only pray and hope....!

>

>

>

> May God Bless You And Keep You Well

>

>

>

> (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

>

> www.ozoneuniversity.com

>

> www.ozonehospital.com

>

> www.oxygentherapyexperts.com

>

> www.medicalozone.info

>

> www.bloodozonation.com

>

> Phone - +1-604-501-6051

>

> Fax - +1-604-501-6051 Call First

>

> Ozone Research Group

>

> Founder

>

> Skype ID - ozoneresearch

>

> ID - humansafe2001

>

> Group Owner - oxyzone

>

>

>

> Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this

> communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator

thereof.

> This communication contains information, which is confidential and

may also

> be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient

(s). If

> you have received this communication by error, please delete the

email and

> destroy any copies of it.

>

>

>

>

>

> From: cures for AIDS [mailto:cures for AIDS ]

On Behalf

> Of aidsisover@...

> Sent: May-06-07 8:35 AM

> cures for AIDS

> Subject: Re: AIDS CURE

>

>

>

>

>

> Saafan,

> I hope your cure, an already available drug, is a truth serum,

because AIDS

> is a fraud. It is a collection of lies. The only cure for a lie is

the

> truth. We don't need a drug. We don't need more research. We don't

need to

> raise more money. And we don't need doctors who practice " HIV

medicine. " We

> need

> the truth -- pure and simple. Is your plan to administer truth

serum to the

> doctors and politicians?

>

> My story is here: _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

> and here: _Diary of an AIDS Dissident_

> (http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident)

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/6/2007 3:18:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> alsafi52@... <mailto:alsafi52%40> writes:

>

> My story is on the following site:

> _http://saafan-http://sahttp://sahttp_ <http://saafan-

http:/sahttp:/sahttp_>

> (http://saafan-aidscure.blogspot.com/)

> Saafan

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security

Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They

may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

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,

Yes, it was funny, but so was the stem cell post and all these other

people curing AIDS with something fancy and expensive. I can cure it

with nothing more than common sense (which is not so common in the

age of medical madness) and maybe some vigorous vibration -- which is

really what rebounding produces.

Ed

http://sobehealthy.com

-

-- In cures for AIDS , " Ozoneuniversity " <peter@...> wrote:

>

> That was funny .....! We can only pray and hope....!

>

>

>

> May God Bless You And Keep You Well

>

>

>

> (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

>

> www.ozoneuniversity.com

>

> www.ozonehospital.com

>

> www.oxygentherapyexperts.com

>

> www.medicalozone.info

>

> www.bloodozonation.com

>

> Phone - +1-604-501-6051

>

> Fax - +1-604-501-6051 Call First

>

> Ozone Research Group

>

> Founder

>

> Skype ID - ozoneresearch

>

> ID - humansafe2001

>

> Group Owner - oxyzone

>

>

>

> Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this

> communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator

thereof.

> This communication contains information, which is confidential and

may also

> be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient

(s). If

> you have received this communication by error, please delete the

email and

> destroy any copies of it.

>

>

>

>

>

> From: cures for AIDS [mailto:cures for AIDS ]

On Behalf

> Of aidsisover@...

> Sent: May-06-07 8:35 AM

> cures for AIDS

> Subject: Re: AIDS CURE

>

>

>

>

>

> Saafan,

> I hope your cure, an already available drug, is a truth serum,

because AIDS

> is a fraud. It is a collection of lies. The only cure for a lie is

the

> truth. We don't need a drug. We don't need more research. We don't

need to

> raise more money. And we don't need doctors who practice " HIV

medicine. " We

> need

> the truth -- pure and simple. Is your plan to administer truth

serum to the

> doctors and politicians?

>

> My story is here: _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

> and here: _Diary of an AIDS Dissident_

> (http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident)

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/6/2007 3:18:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> alsafi52@... <mailto:alsafi52%40> writes:

>

> My story is on the following site:

> _http://saafan-http://sahttp://sahttp_ <http://saafan-

http:/sahttp:/sahttp_>

> (http://saafan-aidscure.blogspot.com/)

> Saafan

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security

Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They

may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

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Ed:

I do not doubt that what you have personally found for yourself and others

is working and after all the whole aspect of healing or promoting health is

so that one is able to live life as it should be lived, however there are

cases of others who either do not want it that way or have tried it and it

does not work or just because they want someone to care for them plus a

host of other reasons. Because of that and the choices we all have in a free

society (still, I think) there should be many flavours of ways to get

healthy.

So, keep up the good work, but consider others and let them voice their

opinion or fear, if they disagree with you, it is ok, because as they say,

the truth shall always prevail in the end......

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

(Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

www.ozoneuniversity.com

www.ozonehospital.com

www.oxygentherapyexperts.com

www.medicalozone.info

www.bloodozonation.com

Phone - +1-604-501-6051

Fax - +1-604-501-6051 Call First

Ozone Research Group

Founder

Skype ID - ozoneresearch

ID - humansafe2001

Group Owner - oxyzone

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communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof.

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From: cures for AIDS [mailto:cures for AIDS ] On Behalf

Of

Sent: May-09-07 5:22 PM

cures for AIDS

Subject: Re: AIDS CURE

,

Yes, it was funny, but so was the stem cell post and all these other

people curing AIDS with something fancy and expensive. I can cure it

with nothing more than common sense (which is not so common in the

age of medical madness) and maybe some vigorous vibration -- which is

really what rebounding produces.

Ed

http://sobehealthy.com

-

-- In cures for AIDS <mailto:cures for AIDS%40> ,

" Ozoneuniversity " <peter@...> wrote:

>

> That was funny .....! We can only pray and hope....!

>

>

>

> May God Bless You And Keep You Well

>

>

>

> (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

>

> www.ozoneuniversity.com

>

> www.ozonehospital.com

>

> www.oxygentherapyexperts.com

>

> www.medicalozone.info

>

> www.bloodozonation.com

>

> Phone - +1-604-501-6051

>

> Fax - +1-604-501-6051 Call First

>

> Ozone Research Group

>

> Founder

>

> Skype ID - ozoneresearch

>

> ID - humansafe2001

>

> Group Owner - oxyzone

>

>

>

> Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this

> communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator

thereof.

> This communication contains information, which is confidential and

may also

> be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient

(s). If

> you have received this communication by error, please delete the

email and

> destroy any copies of it.

>

>

>

>

>

> From: cures for AIDS <mailto:cures for AIDS%40>

[mailto:cures for AIDS <mailto:cures for AIDS%40> ]

On Behalf

> Of aidsisover@...

> Sent: May-06-07 8:35 AM

> cures for AIDS <mailto:cures for AIDS%40>

> Subject: Re: AIDS CURE

>

>

>

>

>

> Saafan,

> I hope your cure, an already available drug, is a truth serum,

because AIDS

> is a fraud. It is a collection of lies. The only cure for a lie is

the

> truth. We don't need a drug. We don't need more research. We don't

need to

> raise more money. And we don't need doctors who practice " HIV

medicine. " We

> need

> the truth -- pure and simple. Is your plan to administer truth

serum to the

> doctors and politicians?

>

> My story is here: _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

> and here: _Diary of an AIDS Dissident_

> (http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident)

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/6/2007 3:18:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> alsafi52@... <mailto:alsafi52%40> writes:

>

> My story is on the following site:

> _http://saafan-http://sahttp://sahttp_

<http://saafan-http:/sahttp:/sahttp_> <http://saafan-

http:/sahttp:/sahttp_>

> (http://saafan-aidscure.blogspot.com/)

> Saafan

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security

Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They

may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

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Ed:

I do not doubt that what you have personally found for yourself and others

is working and after all the whole aspect of healing or promoting health is

so that one is able to live life as it should be lived, however there are

cases of others who either do not want it that way or have tried it and it

does not work or just because they want someone to care for them plus a

host of other reasons. Because of that and the choices we all have in a free

society (still, I think) there should be many flavours of ways to get

healthy.

So, keep up the good work, but consider others and let them voice their

opinion or fear, if they disagree with you, it is ok, because as they say,

the truth shall always prevail in the end......

May God Bless You And Keep You Well

(Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

www.ozoneuniversity.com

www.ozonehospital.com

www.oxygentherapyexperts.com

www.medicalozone.info

www.bloodozonation.com

Phone - +1-604-501-6051

Fax - +1-604-501-6051 Call First

Ozone Research Group

Founder

Skype ID - ozoneresearch

ID - humansafe2001

Group Owner - oxyzone

Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this

communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator thereof.

This communication contains information, which is confidential and may also

be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If

you have received this communication by error, please delete the email and

destroy any copies of it.

From: cures for AIDS [mailto:cures for AIDS ] On Behalf

Of

Sent: May-09-07 5:22 PM

cures for AIDS

Subject: Re: AIDS CURE

,

Yes, it was funny, but so was the stem cell post and all these other

people curing AIDS with something fancy and expensive. I can cure it

with nothing more than common sense (which is not so common in the

age of medical madness) and maybe some vigorous vibration -- which is

really what rebounding produces.

Ed

http://sobehealthy.com

-

-- In cures for AIDS <mailto:cures for AIDS%40> ,

" Ozoneuniversity " <peter@...> wrote:

>

> That was funny .....! We can only pray and hope....!

>

>

>

> May God Bless You And Keep You Well

>

>

>

> (Professor Ozone) Jovanovic

>

> www.ozoneuniversity.com

>

> www.ozonehospital.com

>

> www.oxygentherapyexperts.com

>

> www.medicalozone.info

>

> www.bloodozonation.com

>

> Phone - +1-604-501-6051

>

> Fax - +1-604-501-6051 Call First

>

> Ozone Research Group

>

> Founder

>

> Skype ID - ozoneresearch

>

> ID - humansafe2001

>

> Group Owner - oxyzone

>

>

>

> Without prejudice to the generality of the contents herein, this

> communication does not attach any legal liability on the originator

thereof.

> This communication contains information, which is confidential and

may also

> be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient

(s). If

> you have received this communication by error, please delete the

email and

> destroy any copies of it.

>

>

>

>

>

> From: cures for AIDS <mailto:cures for AIDS%40>

[mailto:cures for AIDS <mailto:cures for AIDS%40> ]

On Behalf

> Of aidsisover@...

> Sent: May-06-07 8:35 AM

> cures for AIDS <mailto:cures for AIDS%40>

> Subject: Re: AIDS CURE

>

>

>

>

>

> Saafan,

> I hope your cure, an already available drug, is a truth serum,

because AIDS

> is a fraud. It is a collection of lies. The only cure for a lie is

the

> truth. We don't need a drug. We don't need more research. We don't

need to

> raise more money. And we don't need doctors who practice " HIV

medicine. " We

> need

> the truth -- pure and simple. Is your plan to administer truth

serum to the

> doctors and politicians?

>

> My story is here: _So... Be Healthy!_ (http://sobehealthy.com/)

> and here: _Diary of an AIDS Dissident_

> (http://journals.aol.com/aidsisover/DiaryofanAIDSDissident)

>

>

>

> In a message dated 5/6/2007 3:18:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> alsafi52@... <mailto:alsafi52%40> writes:

>

> My story is on the following site:

> _http://saafan-http://sahttp://sahttp_

<http://saafan-http:/sahttp:/sahttp_> <http://saafan-

http:/sahttp:/sahttp_>

> (http://saafan-aidscure.blogspot.com/)

> Saafan

>

> NOTICE: Due to Presidential Executive Orders, the National Security

Agency

> may have read this e-mail without warning, warrant, or notice. They

may do

> this without any judicial or legislative oversight. You have no

recourse

> nor protection save to call for the impeachment of the current

> administration.

>

>

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