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O.K.

After countless hours of research, digging, e-mails, and phone calls, it seems

to be that Tetrasil as patented as a cure for HIV/AIDS. While the obvious red

tape and blackage by our friendly government, the potion, made mostly of

molecular silver crystal ions and the like, is actually quite easy to formulate.

There are pages with the 4-5 main ingrediants and how to make this. Of course a

basic knowledge of chemistry and a minimal setup is required to produce this,

yet the main fact is that all the pieces necessary to formulate this are readily

available. It is recommended that this be injected by I.V. at least twice. My

question is whether you guys are aware of this and whether anyone as actually

pursued this.

P.S. Boyd Graves, an attorney suing the government over the fact that he has

proof that our government created this virus, has actually recieved this

injection/I.V. and is doing extremely well after 14 years now.

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Then again, there are countles 'HIV' Positives who have been positive for

fourteen years who are also doing quite well, without the use of tetrasil,

AIDS meds or anything else. I looked and couldn't find a single

scientific study that proved that tetrasil is even good for sick people,

let alone that it " cures AIDS. "

Kinda hard to prove that something cures a disease that has never been

proven to exist. I'm not denying that it helps sick people (although I've

found no real proof for it yet), however, AZT does too, at first. So

would a good dose of draino probably.

But for only dollars a day, you too can get the cure that the government

hides, but has been used by the stars! Patients who were dying were doing

one handed pushups just three days after our LOW COST treatment! Just

send your money!

In the meantime, would anyone like to buy a bridge? I'm in the

bridge-selling pyramid scheme. They cure AIDS! It's a brand new

breakthrough! You get under them, and hide from the medical industry,

doctors and snake oil dealers! And you don't get AIDS! Incredible! Sell

a bridge to your friends. It's good for what ails ya... from cancer to

ingrown toenails!

Just call!

Caer

> O.K.

> After countless hours of research, digging, e-mails, and phone calls, it

> seems to be that Tetrasil as patented as a cure for HIV/AIDS. While the

> obvious red tape and blackage by our friendly government, the potion,

> made mostly of molecular silver crystal ions and the like, is actually

> quite easy to formulate. There are pages with the 4-5 main ingrediants

> and how to make this. Of course a basic knowledge of chemistry and a

> minimal setup is required to produce this, yet the main fact is that all

> the pieces necessary to formulate this are readily available. It is

> recommended that this be injected by I.V. at least twice. My question is

> whether you guys are aware of this and whether anyone as actually pursued

> this.

>

> P.S. Boyd Graves, an attorney suing the government over the fact that he

> has proof that our government created this virus, has actually recieved

> this injection/I.V. and is doing extremely well after 14 years now.

>

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Caer,

Testrasil is AG404, that is to say four silver molecules and four oxygen

molecules. If you are

going to research this as a cure for aids or an aids remission look into silver

and look into

oxygen therapies, there you will find some related studies you are looking for.

I did read once

that AG404 is sold as a pool cleaner in the US and I have also read that any

chemist can make

it.

Kev

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:34:42 -0600 (MDT), caerfree wrote

> Then again, there are countles 'HIV' Positives who have been positive for

> fourteen years who are also doing quite well, without the use of tetrasil,

> AIDS meds or anything else. I looked and couldn't find a single

> scientific study that proved that tetrasil is even good for sick people,

> let alone that it " cures AIDS. "

>

> Kinda hard to prove that something cures a disease that has never been

> proven to exist. I'm not denying that it helps sick people (although I've

> found no real proof for it yet), however, AZT does too, at first. So

> would a good dose of draino probably.

>

> But for only dollars a day, you too can get the cure that the government

> hides, but has been used by the stars! Patients who were dying were doing

> one handed pushups just three days after our LOW COST treatment! Just

> send your money!

>

> In the meantime, would anyone like to buy a bridge? I'm in the

> bridge-selling pyramid scheme. They cure AIDS! It's a brand new

> breakthrough! You get under them, and hide from the medical industry,

> doctors and snake oil dealers! And you don't get AIDS! Incredible! Sell

> a bridge to your friends. It's good for what ails ya... from cancer to

> ingrown toenails!

>

> Just call!

>

> Caer

>

> > O.K.

> > After countless hours of research, digging, e-mails, and phone calls, it

> > seems to be that Tetrasil as patented as a cure for HIV/AIDS. While the

> > obvious red tape and blackage by our friendly government, the potion,

> > made mostly of molecular silver crystal ions and the like, is actually

> > quite easy to formulate. There are pages with the 4-5 main ingrediants

> > and how to make this. Of course a basic knowledge of chemistry and a

> > minimal setup is required to produce this, yet the main fact is that all

> > the pieces necessary to formulate this are readily available. It is

> > recommended that this be injected by I.V. at least twice. My question is

> > whether you guys are aware of this and whether anyone as actually pursued

> > this.

> >

> > P.S. Boyd Graves, an attorney suing the government over the fact that he

> > has proof that our government created this virus, has actually recieved

> > this injection/I.V. and is doing extremely well after 14 years now.

> >

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Before Mr Graves " proves " that the " government "

created " this virus " , perhaps someone could ask Mr

Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared as a

topic in this group. When you cite to him, you are

stating to me that you have no credibility of any

kind.

--- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> O.K.

> After countless hours of research, digging, e-mails,

> and phone calls, it seems to be that Tetrasil as

> patented as a cure for HIV/AIDS. While the obvious

> red tape and blackage by our friendly government,

> the potion, made mostly of molecular silver crystal

> ions and the like, is actually quite easy to

> formulate. There are pages with the 4-5 main

> ingrediants and how to make this. Of course a basic

> knowledge of chemistry and a minimal setup is

> required to produce this, yet the main fact is that

> all the pieces necessary to formulate this are

> readily available. It is recommended that this be

> injected by I.V. at least twice. My question is

> whether you guys are aware of this and whether

> anyone as actually pursued this.

>

> P.S. Boyd Graves, an attorney suing the government

> over the fact that he has proof that our government

> created this virus, has actually recieved this

> injection/I.V. and is doing extremely well after 14

> years now.

>

>

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This is exactly why I never post here. You people with your selling bridges and

credability. Who has credability over anything. Even if I was a PHd or Biologist

and stated something on here, I would still get the " so if your so right where's

the proof or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually quite amusing how I can

tell that you got angry at me posting a simple message inquiring about this. I

bet your credability over everything you know is through the roof. No, don't

worry I don't need to see any credentials. Being the supremely intelligent

individual that I am, I'll just " assume " that you have no credability and that

you citing Mr. Graves is at this point unequivical. Genuises, lol

Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before Mr Graves " proves " that the

" government "

created " this virus " , perhaps someone could ask Mr

Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared as a

topic in this group. When you cite to him, you are

stating to me that you have no credibility of any

kind.

--- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> O.K.

> After countless hours of research, digging, e-mails,

> and phone calls, it seems to be that Tetrasil as

> patented as a cure for HIV/AIDS. While the obvious

> red tape and blackage by our friendly government,

> the potion, made mostly of molecular silver crystal

> ions and the like, is actually quite easy to

> formulate. There are pages with the 4-5 main

> ingrediants and how to make this. Of course a basic

> knowledge of chemistry and a minimal setup is

> required to produce this, yet the main fact is that

> all the pieces necessary to formulate this are

> readily available. It is recommended that this be

> injected by I.V. at least twice. My question is

> whether you guys are aware of this and whether

> anyone as actually pursued this.

>

> P.S. Boyd Graves, an attorney suing the government

> over the fact that he has proof that our government

> created this virus, has actually recieved this

> injection/I.V. and is doing extremely well after 14

> years now.

>

>

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I'm very curious as to your research as to the other ingredients in tetrasilver

......

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:59:10 -0700 (PDT), D. Filips wrote

> This is exactly why I never post here. You people with your selling bridges

and

> credability. Who has credability over anything. Even if I was a PHd or

Biologist and

> stated something on here, I would still get the " so if your so right where's

the proof or

> the FDA approval " theory. It's actually quite amusing how I can tell that you

got angry at

> me posting a simple message inquiring about this. I bet your credability over

everything

> you know is through the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to see any

credentials. Being

> the supremely intelligent individual that I am, I'll just " assume " that you

have no

> credability and that you citing Mr. Graves is at this point unequivical.

Genuises, lol

>

> Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before Mr Graves " proves " that the

" government "

> created " this virus " , perhaps someone could ask Mr

> Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

>

> By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared as a

> topic in this group. When you cite to him, you are

> stating to me that you have no credibility of any

> kind.

>

> --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

>

> > O.K.

> > After countless hours of research, digging, e-mails,

> > and phone calls, it seems to be that Tetrasil as

> > patented as a cure for HIV/AIDS. While the obvious

> > red tape and blackage by our friendly government,

> > the potion, made mostly of molecular silver crystal

> > ions and the like, is actually quite easy to

> > formulate. There are pages with the 4-5 main

> > ingrediants and how to make this. Of course a basic

> > knowledge of chemistry and a minimal setup is

> > required to produce this, yet the main fact is that

> > all the pieces necessary to formulate this are

> > readily available. It is recommended that this be

> > injected by I.V. at least twice. My question is

> > whether you guys are aware of this and whether

> > anyone as actually pursued this.

> >

> > P.S. Boyd Graves, an attorney suing the government

> > over the fact that he has proof that our government

> > created this virus, has actually recieved this

> > injection/I.V. and is doing extremely well after 14

> > years now.

> >

> >

>

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And yet, after your 'hours of research and tons of phonecalls' and

all, you haven't provided us with links to studies we can sink our

teeth into. It's really wonderful that Tetrasil/Imusil might

improve health for sick people. But the way it's hyped, I have some

very serious doubts as to its efficacy. If you've studied up on it,

help us out. Give us some scientific studies.

That doesn't help with the whole " HIV " thing either. Are we talking

about stupid viral load markers? Like that ever meant anything.

Plus, you can't have proven that something kills something that has

never been proven. I'm sorry but you can't. If it improves health,

that's shibby. When I'm on my deathbed and about to croak, I'll be a

hell of a lot more likely to take a supposedly non-toxic " cure " than I

will be to take HAART ().

However, that hasn't happened, and most likely won't. If we go by the

statistics of dissidents who have actually gotten sick and died, I'm

probably more likely to be eaten by a shark... and I live in Colorado.

^__^

But if you have articles, by all means, share them. For god's sake,

save us from ourselves!

Caer

> This is exactly why I never post here. You people with your selling

bridges and credability. Who has credability over anything. Even if I

was a PHd or Biologist and stated something on here, I would still get

the " so if your so right where's the proof or the FDA approval "

theory. It's actually quite amusing how I can tell that you got angry

at me posting a simple message inquiring about this. I bet your

credability over everything you know is through the roof. No, don't

worry I don't need to see any credentials. Being the supremely

intelligent individual that I am, I'll just " assume " that you have no

credability and that you citing Mr. Graves is at this point

unequivical. Genuises, lol

>

> Sara Elbrai <selbrai@y...> wrote:Before Mr Graves " proves " that the

" government "

> created " this virus " , perhaps someone could ask Mr

> Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

>

> By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared as a

> topic in this group. When you cite to him, you are

> stating to me that you have no credibility of any

> kind.

>

> --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@y...> wrote:

>

> > O.K.

> > After countless hours of research, digging, e-mails,

> > and phone calls, it seems to be that Tetrasil as

> > patented as a cure for HIV/AIDS. While the obvious

> > red tape and blackage by our friendly government,

> > the potion, made mostly of molecular silver crystal

> > ions and the like, is actually quite easy to

> > formulate. There are pages with the 4-5 main

> > ingrediants and how to make this. Of course a basic

> > knowledge of chemistry and a minimal setup is

> > required to produce this, yet the main fact is that

> > all the pieces necessary to formulate this are

> > readily available. It is recommended that this be

> > injected by I.V. at least twice. My question is

> > whether you guys are aware of this and whether

> > anyone as actually pursued this.

> >

> > P.S. Boyd Graves, an attorney suing the government

> > over the fact that he has proof that our government

> > created this virus, has actually recieved this

> > injection/I.V. and is doing extremely well after 14

> > years now.

> >

> >

>

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HI D.Filips

I mentioned Boyd Graves on here before and was told that I must have " Dementia "

because I stated " If you can't trust the government, who can you trust " . So

don't let anything get to you. And keep on posting. If anyone else doesn't

appreciate it (not saying that no one appreciates it) I for 1 sure do. So don't

let certain what nots stop you from posting. God Bless ita

" D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

This is exactly why I never post here. You people with your selling bridges and

credability. Who has credability over anything. Even if I was a PHd or Biologist

and stated something on here, I would still get the " so if your so right where's

the proof or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually quite amusing how I can

tell that you got angry at me posting a simple message inquiring about this. I

bet your credability over everything you know is through the roof. No, don't

worry I don't need to see any credentials. Being the supremely intelligent

individual that I am, I'll just " assume " that you have no credability and that

you citing Mr. Graves is at this point unequivical. Genuises, lol

Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before Mr Graves " proves " that the

" government "

created " this virus " , perhaps someone could ask Mr

Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared as a

topic in this group. When you cite to him, you are

stating to me that you have no credibility of any

kind.

--- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> O.K.

> After countless hours of research, digging, e-mails,

> and phone calls, it seems to be that Tetrasil as

> patented as a cure for HIV/AIDS. While the obvious

> red tape and blackage by our friendly government,

> the potion, made mostly of molecular silver crystal

> ions and the like, is actually quite easy to

> formulate. There are pages with the 4-5 main

> ingrediants and how to make this. Of course a basic

> knowledge of chemistry and a minimal setup is

> required to produce this, yet the main fact is that

> all the pieces necessary to formulate this are

> readily available. It is recommended that this be

> injected by I.V. at least twice. My question is

> whether you guys are aware of this and whether

> anyone as actually pursued this.

>

> P.S. Boyd Graves, an attorney suing the government

> over the fact that he has proof that our government

> created this virus, has actually recieved this

> injection/I.V. and is doing extremely well after 14

> years now.

>

>

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When you cite someone who has no credibility of any

kind, you have no credibility of any kind. It's really

that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

difficulty understanding that.

--- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> This is exactly why I never post here. You people

> with your selling bridges and credability. Who has

> credability over anything. Even if I was a PHd or

> Biologist and stated something on here, I would

> still get the " so if your so right where's the proof

> or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually quite

> amusing how I can tell that you got angry at me

> posting a simple message inquiring about this. I bet

> your credability over everything you know is through

> the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to see any

> credentials. Being the supremely intelligent

> individual that I am, I'll just " assume " that you

> have no credability and that you citing Mr. Graves

> is at this point unequivical. Genuises, lol

>

> Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before Mr

> Graves " proves " that the " government "

> created " this virus " , perhaps someone could ask Mr

> Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

>

> By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared as a

> topic in this group. When you cite to him, you are

> stating to me that you have no credibility of any

> kind.

>

>

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As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there is a patent actually issued,

there is some

serious credibility.

Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue: as far as I know it's whether or

not HIV was

deliberately created in a governmental laboratory tested in the form of a

vaccine. People

keep saying give me proof of the existence of HIV! Certainly Mr. Graves is

attempting to

provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging war in the courtroom. I believe he

has filed his

case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as we speak, so it would be

interesting to see

what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr. Graves as incredible as I'm certain

he has a lot

more vested in this specific issue than we all know ...

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara Elbrai wrote

> When you cite someone who has no credibility of any

> kind, you have no credibility of any kind. It's really

> that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> difficulty understanding that.

>

> --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

>

> > This is exactly why I never post here. You people

> > with your selling bridges and credability. Who has

> > credability over anything. Even if I was a PHd or

> > Biologist and stated something on here, I would

> > still get the " so if your so right where's the proof

> > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually quite

> > amusing how I can tell that you got angry at me

> > posting a simple message inquiring about this. I bet

> > your credability over everything you know is through

> > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to see any

> > credentials. Being the supremely intelligent

> > individual that I am, I'll just " assume " that you

> > have no credability and that you citing Mr. Graves

> > is at this point unequivical. Genuises, lol

> >

> > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before Mr

> > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > created " this virus " , perhaps someone could ask Mr

> > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> >

> > By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared as a

> > topic in this group. When you cite to him, you are

> > stating to me that you have no credibility of any

> > kind.

> >

> >

>

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Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously I posted the tetrasil question to bring about a discussion, as this is

a mail group, and yet was blasted with your funny credability post. If you would

have done a little bit of research, you would have learned that it is " PATENTED "

as a cure and patents require scientific proof to become patents. Also, Mr.

Graves has the law suit going on as stated. Since he practices law, and

through subpeonas, he's had access to documents that we can only dream of

seeing, not mention injections of tetrasil. Since you like credability so much,

do some research before you speak. Actually what you should do is think before

you speak. Comedians, they're great!!!!!!!!!!!!

kevin <kevin@...> wrote:

As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there is a patent actually issued,

there is some

serious credibility.

Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue: as far as I know it's whether or

not HIV was

deliberately created in a governmental laboratory tested in the form of a

vaccine. People

keep saying give me proof of the existence of HIV! Certainly Mr. Graves is

attempting to

provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging war in the courtroom. I believe he

has filed his

case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as we speak, so it would be

interesting to see

what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr. Graves as incredible as I'm certain

he has a lot

more vested in this specific issue than we all know ...

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara Elbrai wrote

> When you cite someone who has no credibility of any

> kind, you have no credibility of any kind. It's really

> that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> difficulty understanding that.

>

> --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

>

> > This is exactly why I never post here. You people

> > with your selling bridges and credability. Who has

> > credability over anything. Even if I was a PHd or

> > Biologist and stated something on here, I would

> > still get the " so if your so right where's the proof

> > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually quite

> > amusing how I can tell that you got angry at me

> > posting a simple message inquiring about this. I bet

> > your credability over everything you know is through

> > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to see any

> > credentials. Being the supremely intelligent

> > individual that I am, I'll just " assume " that you

> > have no credability and that you citing Mr. Graves

> > is at this point unequivical. Genuises, lol

> >

> > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before Mr

> > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > created " this virus " , perhaps someone could ask Mr

> > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> >

> > By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared as a

> > topic in this group. When you cite to him, you are

> > stating to me that you have no credibility of any

> > kind.

> >

> >

>

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ok, soooooooooooo people. does anyone want to go on a

quest with me to find a doctor that can admister the

Tetrasil in the states, mexico, israel, anywhere? is

anyone brave enough?

M

--- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

> Obviously I posted the tetrasil question to bring

> about a discussion, as this is a mail group, and yet

> was blasted with your funny credability post. If you

> would have done a little bit of research, you would

> have learned that it is " PATENTED " as a cure and

> patents require scientific proof to become patents.

> Also, Mr. Graves has the law suit going on as

> stated. Since he practices law, and through

> subpeonas, he's had access to documents that we can

> only dream of seeing, not mention injections of

> tetrasil. Since you like credability so much, do

> some research before you speak. Actually what you

> should do is think before you speak. Comedians,

> they're great!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> kevin <kevin@...> wrote:

> As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there is a

> patent actually issued, there is some

> serious credibility.

>

> Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue: as far

> as I know it's whether or not HIV was

> deliberately created in a governmental laboratory

> tested in the form of a vaccine. People

> keep saying give me proof of the existence of HIV!

> Certainly Mr. Graves is attempting to

> provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging war in

> the courtroom. I believe he has filed his

> case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as we

> speak, so it would be interesting to see

> what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr. Graves

> as incredible as I'm certain he has a lot

> more vested in this specific issue than we all know

> ...

>

>

>

> On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara

> Elbrai wrote

> > When you cite someone who has no credibility of

> any

> > kind, you have no credibility of any kind. It's

> really

> > that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> > difficulty understanding that.

> >

> > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> >

> > > This is exactly why I never post here. You

> people

> > > with your selling bridges and credability. Who

> has

> > > credability over anything. Even if I was a PHd

> or

> > > Biologist and stated something on here, I would

> > > still get the " so if your so right where's the

> proof

> > > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually quite

> > > amusing how I can tell that you got angry at me

> > > posting a simple message inquiring about this. I

> bet

> > > your credability over everything you know is

> through

> > > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to see

> any

> > > credentials. Being the supremely intelligent

> > > individual that I am, I'll just " assume " that

> you

> > > have no credability and that you citing Mr.

> Graves

> > > is at this point unequivical. Genuises, lol

> > >

> > > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before Mr

> > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone could ask

> Mr

> > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > >

> > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared as

> a

> > > topic in this group. When you cite to him, you

> are

> > > stating to me that you have no credibility of

> any

> > > kind.

> > >

> > >

> >

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When I talked to Mr. Graves personally, I found him to be obsessed with this

issue of a

government created pathogen. The way Graves put it about the tetrasil, he had

an injection

of it and said he never had a problem since. I don't know if that meant that

he, had had

some problems with HIV prior that injection. At the time, I believe tetrasil

injections were sort

of an underground thing ... at least that was the impression I got from Graves.

I also spoke

with the patent holder of tetrasil about a year ago, and he said he was looking

to add a

person on his team to bring tetrasil fourth, and as he stated, such persons

don't come cheap.

Someone along the way stated that any chemist can make it.

On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:02:48 -0700 (PDT), D. Filips wrote

> Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

> Obviously I posted the tetrasil question to bring about a discussion, as this

is a mail

> group, and yet was blasted with your funny credability post. If you would have

done a

> little bit of research, you would have learned that it is " PATENTED " as a cure

and patents

> require scientific proof to become patents. Also, Mr. Graves has the law suit

going on as

> stated. Since he practices law, and through subpeonas, he's had access

to

documents

> that we can only dream of seeing, not mention injections of tetrasil. Since

you like

> credability so much, do some research before you speak. Actually what you

should do is

> think before you speak. Comedians, they're great!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> kevin <kevin@...> wrote:

> As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there is a patent actually issued,

there is some

> serious credibility.

>

> Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue: as far as I know it's whether or

not HIV was

> deliberately created in a governmental laboratory tested in the form of a

vaccine. People

> keep saying give me proof of the existence of HIV! Certainly Mr. Graves is

attempting to

> provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging war in the courtroom. I believe

he has filed

> his case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as we speak, so it would be

interesting to

> see what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr. Graves as incredible as I'm

certain he

> has a lot more vested in this specific issue than we all know ...

>

>

>

> On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara Elbrai wrote

> > When you cite someone who has no credibility of any

> > kind, you have no credibility of any kind. It's really

> > that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> > difficulty understanding that.

> >

> > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> >

> > > This is exactly why I never post here. You people

> > > with your selling bridges and credability. Who has

> > > credability over anything. Even if I was a PHd or

> > > Biologist and stated something on here, I would

> > > still get the " so if your so right where's the proof

> > > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually quite

> > > amusing how I can tell that you got angry at me

> > > posting a simple message inquiring about this. I bet

> > > your credability over everything you know is through

> > > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to see any

> > > credentials. Being the supremely intelligent

> > > individual that I am, I'll just " assume " that you

> > > have no credability and that you citing Mr. Graves

> > > is at this point unequivical. Genuises, lol

> > >

> > > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before Mr

> > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone could ask Mr

> > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > >

> > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared as a

> > > topic in this group. When you cite to him, you are

> > > stating to me that you have no credibility of any

> > > kind.

> > >

> > >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

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I was wondering if you ever found someone to give you

or how to have an injection of Tetrasil done.

I am about to go to India to a clinic that claims to

have thousands turned to hiv negative along with an

increase in health. I will see for myself and report

here.

I have been a member of this group for about 9 months

now and I have witnessed heated debate about the

inexistance of HIV versus people who are diagnosed

with HIV who become life treatening sick that are told

to only treat their infections.

I have talked to many health professionals, in and out

of the western medical system and they all agree that

there is a colloration between CD4, viral count and

general health, despite what the dissidents claim.

One thing is for sure. It's that people get sick,

either if they test HIV positive or not, and more

efficient and natural ways to maintain an overall

health and long life are needed. This is my quest.

Humbly,

Sylvain

--- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

> ok, soooooooooooo people. does anyone want to go on

> a

> quest with me to find a doctor that can admister the

> Tetrasil in the states, mexico, israel, anywhere?

> is

> anyone brave enough?

>

> M

>

> --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

>

> > Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

> > Obviously I posted the tetrasil question to bring

> > about a discussion, as this is a mail group, and

> yet

> > was blasted with your funny credability post. If

> you

> > would have done a little bit of research, you

> would

> > have learned that it is " PATENTED " as a cure and

> > patents require scientific proof to become

> patents.

> > Also, Mr. Graves has the law suit going on as

>

> > stated. Since he practices law, and through

> > subpeonas, he's had access to documents that we

> can

> > only dream of seeing, not mention injections of

> > tetrasil. Since you like credability so much, do

> > some research before you speak. Actually what you

> > should do is think before you speak. Comedians,

> > they're great!!!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > kevin <kevin@...> wrote:

> > As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there is

> a

> > patent actually issued, there is some

> > serious credibility.

> >

> > Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue: as

> far

> > as I know it's whether or not HIV was

> > deliberately created in a governmental laboratory

> > tested in the form of a vaccine. People

> > keep saying give me proof of the existence of HIV!

>

> > Certainly Mr. Graves is attempting to

> > provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging war

> in

> > the courtroom. I believe he has filed his

> > case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as we

> > speak, so it would be interesting to see

> > what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr.

> Graves

> > as incredible as I'm certain he has a lot

> > more vested in this specific issue than we all

> know

> > ...

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara

> > Elbrai wrote

> > > When you cite someone who has no credibility of

> > any

> > > kind, you have no credibility of any kind. It's

> > really

> > > that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> > > difficulty understanding that.

> > >

> > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > This is exactly why I never post here. You

> > people

> > > > with your selling bridges and credability. Who

> > has

> > > > credability over anything. Even if I was a PHd

> > or

> > > > Biologist and stated something on here, I

> would

> > > > still get the " so if your so right where's the

> > proof

> > > > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually

> quite

> > > > amusing how I can tell that you got angry at

> me

> > > > posting a simple message inquiring about this.

> I

> > bet

> > > > your credability over everything you know is

> > through

> > > > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to see

> > any

> > > > credentials. Being the supremely intelligent

> > > > individual that I am, I'll just " assume " that

> > you

> > > > have no credability and that you citing Mr.

> > Graves

> > > > is at this point unequivical. Genuises, lol

> > > >

> > > > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before

> Mr

> > > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone could

> ask

> > Mr

> > > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > > >

> > > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared

> as

> > a

> > > > topic in this group. When you cite to him, you

> > are

> > > > stating to me that you have no credibility of

> > any

> > > > kind.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >

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I was wondering if you ever found someone to give you

or how to have an injection of Tetrasil done.

I am about to go to India to a clinic that claims to

have thousands turned to hiv negative along with an

increase in health. I will see for myself and report

here.

I have been a member of this group for about 9 months

now and I have witnessed heated debate about the

inexistance of HIV versus people who are diagnosed

with HIV who become life treatening sick that are told

to only treat their infections.

I have talked to many health professionals, in and out

of the western medical system and they all agree that

there is a colloration between CD4, viral count and

general health, despite what the dissidents claim.

One thing is for sure. It's that people get sick,

either if they test HIV positive or not, and more

efficient and natural ways to maintain an overall

health and long life are needed. This is my quest.

Humbly,

Sylvain

--- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

> ok, soooooooooooo people. does anyone want to go on

> a

> quest with me to find a doctor that can admister the

> Tetrasil in the states, mexico, israel, anywhere?

> is

> anyone brave enough?

>

> M

>

> --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

>

> > Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

> > Obviously I posted the tetrasil question to bring

> > about a discussion, as this is a mail group, and

> yet

> > was blasted with your funny credability post. If

> you

> > would have done a little bit of research, you

> would

> > have learned that it is " PATENTED " as a cure and

> > patents require scientific proof to become

> patents.

> > Also, Mr. Graves has the law suit going on as

>

> > stated. Since he practices law, and through

> > subpeonas, he's had access to documents that we

> can

> > only dream of seeing, not mention injections of

> > tetrasil. Since you like credability so much, do

> > some research before you speak. Actually what you

> > should do is think before you speak. Comedians,

> > they're great!!!!!!!!!!!!

> >

> > kevin <kevin@...> wrote:

> > As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there is

> a

> > patent actually issued, there is some

> > serious credibility.

> >

> > Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue: as

> far

> > as I know it's whether or not HIV was

> > deliberately created in a governmental laboratory

> > tested in the form of a vaccine. People

> > keep saying give me proof of the existence of HIV!

>

> > Certainly Mr. Graves is attempting to

> > provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging war

> in

> > the courtroom. I believe he has filed his

> > case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as we

> > speak, so it would be interesting to see

> > what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr.

> Graves

> > as incredible as I'm certain he has a lot

> > more vested in this specific issue than we all

> know

> > ...

> >

> >

> >

> > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara

> > Elbrai wrote

> > > When you cite someone who has no credibility of

> > any

> > > kind, you have no credibility of any kind. It's

> > really

> > > that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> > > difficulty understanding that.

> > >

> > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > This is exactly why I never post here. You

> > people

> > > > with your selling bridges and credability. Who

> > has

> > > > credability over anything. Even if I was a PHd

> > or

> > > > Biologist and stated something on here, I

> would

> > > > still get the " so if your so right where's the

> > proof

> > > > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually

> quite

> > > > amusing how I can tell that you got angry at

> me

> > > > posting a simple message inquiring about this.

> I

> > bet

> > > > your credability over everything you know is

> > through

> > > > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to see

> > any

> > > > credentials. Being the supremely intelligent

> > > > individual that I am, I'll just " assume " that

> > you

> > > > have no credability and that you citing Mr.

> > Graves

> > > > is at this point unequivical. Genuises, lol

> > > >

> > > > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before

> Mr

> > > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone could

> ask

> > Mr

> > > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > > >

> > > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously appeared

> as

> > a

> > > > topic in this group. When you cite to him, you

> > are

> > > > stating to me that you have no credibility of

> > any

> > > > kind.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> __________________________________________________

> > >

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Sylvain,

I am sorry but did i spread with you before? or is

thsi a responce to the group?

I have spoken/writen to someone here, but it seems

hard to have a conversation with people about this. i

suppose it is all about the unity of the group or

trust that we can do it. but i please let me know

where in India you are going. I have no heard of no

clinics there, I am hoping to be in Europe to do

extensive ozone therapy there. The is/are paper/s on

interperiotenial ozone therapy and the dimishing

effect of HIV and or HIV itself.

Malik

--- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote:

> I was wondering if you ever found someone to give

> you

> or how to have an injection of Tetrasil done.

> I am about to go to India to a clinic that claims to

> have thousands turned to hiv negative along with an

> increase in health. I will see for myself and report

> here.

> I have been a member of this group for about 9

> months

> now and I have witnessed heated debate about the

> inexistance of HIV versus people who are diagnosed

> with HIV who become life treatening sick that are

> told

> to only treat their infections.

> I have talked to many health professionals, in and

> out

> of the western medical system and they all agree

> that

> there is a colloration between CD4, viral count and

> general health, despite what the dissidents claim.

>

> One thing is for sure. It's that people get sick,

> either if they test HIV positive or not, and more

> efficient and natural ways to maintain an overall

> health and long life are needed. This is my quest.

>

> Humbly,

> Sylvain

>

> --- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

>

> > ok, soooooooooooo people. does anyone want to go

> on

> > a

> > quest with me to find a doctor that can admister

> the

> > Tetrasil in the states, mexico, israel, anywhere?

> > is

> > anyone brave enough?

> >

> > M

> >

> > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

> > > Obviously I posted the tetrasil question to

> bring

> > > about a discussion, as this is a mail group, and

> > yet

> > > was blasted with your funny credability post. If

> > you

> > > would have done a little bit of research, you

> > would

> > > have learned that it is " PATENTED " as a cure and

> > > patents require scientific proof to become

> > patents.

> > > Also, Mr. Graves has the law suit going on as

> >

> > > stated. Since he practices law, and through

> > > subpeonas, he's had access to documents that we

> > can

> > > only dream of seeing, not mention injections of

> > > tetrasil. Since you like credability so much, do

> > > some research before you speak. Actually what

> you

> > > should do is think before you speak. Comedians,

> > > they're great!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > kevin <kevin@...> wrote:

> > > As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there

> is

> > a

> > > patent actually issued, there is some

> > > serious credibility.

> > >

> > > Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue: as

> > far

> > > as I know it's whether or not HIV was

> > > deliberately created in a governmental

> laboratory

> > > tested in the form of a vaccine. People

> > > keep saying give me proof of the existence of

> HIV!

> >

> > > Certainly Mr. Graves is attempting to

> > > provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging war

> > in

> > > the courtroom. I believe he has filed his

> > > case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as

> we

> > > speak, so it would be interesting to see

> > > what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr.

> > Graves

> > > as incredible as I'm certain he has a lot

> > > more vested in this specific issue than we all

> > know

> > > ...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara

> > > Elbrai wrote

> > > > When you cite someone who has no credibility

> of

> > > any

> > > > kind, you have no credibility of any kind.

> It's

> > > really

> > > > that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> > > > difficulty understanding that.

> > > >

> > > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > This is exactly why I never post here. You

> > > people

> > > > > with your selling bridges and credability.

> Who

> > > has

> > > > > credability over anything. Even if I was a

> PHd

> > > or

> > > > > Biologist and stated something on here, I

> > would

> > > > > still get the " so if your so right where's

> the

> > > proof

> > > > > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually

> > quite

> > > > > amusing how I can tell that you got angry at

> > me

> > > > > posting a simple message inquiring about

> this.

> > I

> > > bet

> > > > > your credability over everything you know is

> > > through

> > > > > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to

> see

> > > any

> > > > > credentials. Being the supremely intelligent

> > > > > individual that I am, I'll just " assume "

> that

> > > you

> > > > > have no credability and that you citing Mr.

> > > Graves

> > > > > is at this point unequivical. Genuises, lol

> > > > >

> > > > > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before

> > Mr

> > > > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone could

> > ask

> > > Mr

> > > > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously

> appeared

> > as

> > > a

> > > > > topic in this group. When you cite to him,

> you

> > > are

> > > > > stating to me that you have no credibility

> of

> > > any

> > > > > kind.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > >

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Sylvain,

I am sorry but did i spread with you before? or is

thsi a responce to the group?

I have spoken/writen to someone here, but it seems

hard to have a conversation with people about this. i

suppose it is all about the unity of the group or

trust that we can do it. but i please let me know

where in India you are going. I have no heard of no

clinics there, I am hoping to be in Europe to do

extensive ozone therapy there. The is/are paper/s on

interperiotenial ozone therapy and the dimishing

effect of HIV and or HIV itself.

Malik

--- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote:

> I was wondering if you ever found someone to give

> you

> or how to have an injection of Tetrasil done.

> I am about to go to India to a clinic that claims to

> have thousands turned to hiv negative along with an

> increase in health. I will see for myself and report

> here.

> I have been a member of this group for about 9

> months

> now and I have witnessed heated debate about the

> inexistance of HIV versus people who are diagnosed

> with HIV who become life treatening sick that are

> told

> to only treat their infections.

> I have talked to many health professionals, in and

> out

> of the western medical system and they all agree

> that

> there is a colloration between CD4, viral count and

> general health, despite what the dissidents claim.

>

> One thing is for sure. It's that people get sick,

> either if they test HIV positive or not, and more

> efficient and natural ways to maintain an overall

> health and long life are needed. This is my quest.

>

> Humbly,

> Sylvain

>

> --- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

>

> > ok, soooooooooooo people. does anyone want to go

> on

> > a

> > quest with me to find a doctor that can admister

> the

> > Tetrasil in the states, mexico, israel, anywhere?

> > is

> > anyone brave enough?

> >

> > M

> >

> > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

> > > Obviously I posted the tetrasil question to

> bring

> > > about a discussion, as this is a mail group, and

> > yet

> > > was blasted with your funny credability post. If

> > you

> > > would have done a little bit of research, you

> > would

> > > have learned that it is " PATENTED " as a cure and

> > > patents require scientific proof to become

> > patents.

> > > Also, Mr. Graves has the law suit going on as

> >

> > > stated. Since he practices law, and through

> > > subpeonas, he's had access to documents that we

> > can

> > > only dream of seeing, not mention injections of

> > > tetrasil. Since you like credability so much, do

> > > some research before you speak. Actually what

> you

> > > should do is think before you speak. Comedians,

> > > they're great!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > >

> > > kevin <kevin@...> wrote:

> > > As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there

> is

> > a

> > > patent actually issued, there is some

> > > serious credibility.

> > >

> > > Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue: as

> > far

> > > as I know it's whether or not HIV was

> > > deliberately created in a governmental

> laboratory

> > > tested in the form of a vaccine. People

> > > keep saying give me proof of the existence of

> HIV!

> >

> > > Certainly Mr. Graves is attempting to

> > > provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging war

> > in

> > > the courtroom. I believe he has filed his

> > > case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as

> we

> > > speak, so it would be interesting to see

> > > what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr.

> > Graves

> > > as incredible as I'm certain he has a lot

> > > more vested in this specific issue than we all

> > know

> > > ...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara

> > > Elbrai wrote

> > > > When you cite someone who has no credibility

> of

> > > any

> > > > kind, you have no credibility of any kind.

> It's

> > > really

> > > > that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> > > > difficulty understanding that.

> > > >

> > > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > This is exactly why I never post here. You

> > > people

> > > > > with your selling bridges and credability.

> Who

> > > has

> > > > > credability over anything. Even if I was a

> PHd

> > > or

> > > > > Biologist and stated something on here, I

> > would

> > > > > still get the " so if your so right where's

> the

> > > proof

> > > > > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually

> > quite

> > > > > amusing how I can tell that you got angry at

> > me

> > > > > posting a simple message inquiring about

> this.

> > I

> > > bet

> > > > > your credability over everything you know is

> > > through

> > > > > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to

> see

> > > any

> > > > > credentials. Being the supremely intelligent

> > > > > individual that I am, I'll just " assume "

> that

> > > you

> > > > > have no credability and that you citing Mr.

> > > Graves

> > > > > is at this point unequivical. Genuises, lol

> > > > >

> > > > > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...> wrote:Before

> > Mr

> > > > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone could

> > ask

> > > Mr

> > > > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > > > >

> > > > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously

> appeared

> > as

> > > a

> > > > > topic in this group. When you cite to him,

> you

> > > are

> > > > > stating to me that you have no credibility

> of

> > > any

> > > > > kind.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > __________________________________________________

> > > >

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Dear Malik,

that was the first time that I answered you but as I

was going through old unread emails, I saw yours. I

tried Tetrasil on herpes and it is pretty efficient

but I must say that so far, DMSO was the most

efficient. I did not put anything on my groin area for

2 weeks and no more itchiness on my 4 years old rashes

that have disapeared.

The clinic where I am going to India is this one:

but I also have been in contact with this one

http://gpinstitute.com/ .

They both claim to have cured many of HIV and cancer.

I suspect that their herb treatments are Neem plant

based but will soon find out. In villages in India,

Neem is considered to be the pharmacy as it has so

many good effects such as antiviral, immune system

booster, blood cleaner.

Are you going to Germany for ozone therapy? They have

been using it since the first world war and apparently

their ambulance have ozonators in them as if someone

has a stroke and get an ozone treatment within 24

hours, they will not suffer from paralysis nor brain

dammage.

Are you in Mexico? I thought there would have been a

few ozone clinics in Tijuana since there is more

freedom there than in the USA (land of the not free,

haha).

Good luck to you.

Sylvain

--- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

> Sylvain,

> I am sorry but did i spread with you before? or is

> thsi a responce to the group?

> I have spoken/writen to someone here, but it seems

> hard to have a conversation with people about this.

> i

> suppose it is all about the unity of the group or

> trust that we can do it. but i please let me know

> where in India you are going. I have no heard of no

> clinics there, I am hoping to be in Europe to do

> extensive ozone therapy there. The is/are paper/s

> on

> interperiotenial ozone therapy and the dimishing

> effect of HIV and or HIV itself.

>

> Malik

>

> --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote:

>

> > I was wondering if you ever found someone to give

> > you

> > or how to have an injection of Tetrasil done.

> > I am about to go to India to a clinic that claims

> to

> > have thousands turned to hiv negative along with

> an

> > increase in health. I will see for myself and

> report

> > here.

> > I have been a member of this group for about 9

> > months

> > now and I have witnessed heated debate about the

> > inexistance of HIV versus people who are diagnosed

> > with HIV who become life treatening sick that are

> > told

> > to only treat their infections.

> > I have talked to many health professionals, in and

> > out

> > of the western medical system and they all agree

> > that

> > there is a colloration between CD4, viral count

> and

> > general health, despite what the dissidents claim.

> >

> > One thing is for sure. It's that people get sick,

> > either if they test HIV positive or not, and more

> > efficient and natural ways to maintain an overall

> > health and long life are needed. This is my quest.

> >

> > Humbly,

> > Sylvain

> >

> > --- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

> >

> > > ok, soooooooooooo people. does anyone want to

> go

> > on

> > > a

> > > quest with me to find a doctor that can admister

> > the

> > > Tetrasil in the states, mexico, israel,

> anywhere?

> > > is

> > > anyone brave enough?

> > >

> > > M

> > >

> > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > Obviously I posted the tetrasil question to

> > bring

> > > > about a discussion, as this is a mail group,

> and

> > > yet

> > > > was blasted with your funny credability post.

> If

> > > you

> > > > would have done a little bit of research, you

> > > would

> > > > have learned that it is " PATENTED " as a cure

> and

> > > > patents require scientific proof to become

> > > patents.

> > > > Also, Mr. Graves has the law suit going on as

> > >

> > > > stated. Since he practices law, and through

> > > > subpeonas, he's had access to documents that

> we

> > > can

> > > > only dream of seeing, not mention injections

> of

> > > > tetrasil. Since you like credability so much,

> do

> > > > some research before you speak. Actually what

> > you

> > > > should do is think before you speak.

> Comedians,

> > > > they're great!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > kevin <kevin@...> wrote:

> > > > As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there

> > is

> > > a

> > > > patent actually issued, there is some

> > > > serious credibility.

> > > >

> > > > Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue:

> as

> > > far

> > > > as I know it's whether or not HIV was

> > > > deliberately created in a governmental

> > laboratory

> > > > tested in the form of a vaccine. People

> > > > keep saying give me proof of the existence of

> > HIV!

> > >

> > > > Certainly Mr. Graves is attempting to

> > > > provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging

> war

> > > in

> > > > the courtroom. I believe he has filed his

> > > > case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as

> > we

> > > > speak, so it would be interesting to see

> > > > what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr.

> > > Graves

> > > > as incredible as I'm certain he has a lot

> > > > more vested in this specific issue than we all

> > > know

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara

> > > > Elbrai wrote

> > > > > When you cite someone who has no credibility

> > of

> > > > any

> > > > > kind, you have no credibility of any kind.

> > It's

> > > > really

> > > > > that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> > > > > difficulty understanding that.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > This is exactly why I never post here. You

> > > > people

> > > > > > with your selling bridges and credability.

> > Who

> > > > has

> > > > > > credability over anything. Even if I was a

> > PHd

> > > > or

> > > > > > Biologist and stated something on here, I

> > > would

> > > > > > still get the " so if your so right where's

> > the

> > > > proof

> > > > > > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually

> > > quite

> > > > > > amusing how I can tell that you got angry

> at

> > > me

> > > > > > posting a simple message inquiring about

> > this.

> > > I

> > > > bet

> > > > > > your credability over everything you know

> is

> > > > through

> > > > > > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to

> > see

> > > > any

> > > > > > credentials. Being the supremely

> intelligent

> > > > > > individual that I am, I'll just " assume "

> > that

> > > > you

> > > > > > have no credability and that you citing

> Mr.

> > > > Graves

> > > > > > is at this point unequivical. Genuises,

> lol

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...>

> wrote:Before

> > > Mr

> > > > > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > > > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone

> could

> > > ask

> > > > Mr

> > > > > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously

> > appeared

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > > topic in this group. When you cite to him,

>

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Dear Malik,

that was the first time that I answered you but as I

was going through old unread emails, I saw yours. I

tried Tetrasil on herpes and it is pretty efficient

but I must say that so far, DMSO was the most

efficient. I did not put anything on my groin area for

2 weeks and no more itchiness on my 4 years old rashes

that have disapeared.

The clinic where I am going to India is this one:

but I also have been in contact with this one

http://gpinstitute.com/ .

They both claim to have cured many of HIV and cancer.

I suspect that their herb treatments are Neem plant

based but will soon find out. In villages in India,

Neem is considered to be the pharmacy as it has so

many good effects such as antiviral, immune system

booster, blood cleaner.

Are you going to Germany for ozone therapy? They have

been using it since the first world war and apparently

their ambulance have ozonators in them as if someone

has a stroke and get an ozone treatment within 24

hours, they will not suffer from paralysis nor brain

dammage.

Are you in Mexico? I thought there would have been a

few ozone clinics in Tijuana since there is more

freedom there than in the USA (land of the not free,

haha).

Good luck to you.

Sylvain

--- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

> Sylvain,

> I am sorry but did i spread with you before? or is

> thsi a responce to the group?

> I have spoken/writen to someone here, but it seems

> hard to have a conversation with people about this.

> i

> suppose it is all about the unity of the group or

> trust that we can do it. but i please let me know

> where in India you are going. I have no heard of no

> clinics there, I am hoping to be in Europe to do

> extensive ozone therapy there. The is/are paper/s

> on

> interperiotenial ozone therapy and the dimishing

> effect of HIV and or HIV itself.

>

> Malik

>

> --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote:

>

> > I was wondering if you ever found someone to give

> > you

> > or how to have an injection of Tetrasil done.

> > I am about to go to India to a clinic that claims

> to

> > have thousands turned to hiv negative along with

> an

> > increase in health. I will see for myself and

> report

> > here.

> > I have been a member of this group for about 9

> > months

> > now and I have witnessed heated debate about the

> > inexistance of HIV versus people who are diagnosed

> > with HIV who become life treatening sick that are

> > told

> > to only treat their infections.

> > I have talked to many health professionals, in and

> > out

> > of the western medical system and they all agree

> > that

> > there is a colloration between CD4, viral count

> and

> > general health, despite what the dissidents claim.

> >

> > One thing is for sure. It's that people get sick,

> > either if they test HIV positive or not, and more

> > efficient and natural ways to maintain an overall

> > health and long life are needed. This is my quest.

> >

> > Humbly,

> > Sylvain

> >

> > --- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

> >

> > > ok, soooooooooooo people. does anyone want to

> go

> > on

> > > a

> > > quest with me to find a doctor that can admister

> > the

> > > Tetrasil in the states, mexico, israel,

> anywhere?

> > > is

> > > anyone brave enough?

> > >

> > > M

> > >

> > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > Obviously I posted the tetrasil question to

> > bring

> > > > about a discussion, as this is a mail group,

> and

> > > yet

> > > > was blasted with your funny credability post.

> If

> > > you

> > > > would have done a little bit of research, you

> > > would

> > > > have learned that it is " PATENTED " as a cure

> and

> > > > patents require scientific proof to become

> > > patents.

> > > > Also, Mr. Graves has the law suit going on as

> > >

> > > > stated. Since he practices law, and through

> > > > subpeonas, he's had access to documents that

> we

> > > can

> > > > only dream of seeing, not mention injections

> of

> > > > tetrasil. Since you like credability so much,

> do

> > > > some research before you speak. Actually what

> > you

> > > > should do is think before you speak.

> Comedians,

> > > > they're great!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > kevin <kevin@...> wrote:

> > > > As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there

> > is

> > > a

> > > > patent actually issued, there is some

> > > > serious credibility.

> > > >

> > > > Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue:

> as

> > > far

> > > > as I know it's whether or not HIV was

> > > > deliberately created in a governmental

> > laboratory

> > > > tested in the form of a vaccine. People

> > > > keep saying give me proof of the existence of

> > HIV!

> > >

> > > > Certainly Mr. Graves is attempting to

> > > > provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging

> war

> > > in

> > > > the courtroom. I believe he has filed his

> > > > case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as

> > we

> > > > speak, so it would be interesting to see

> > > > what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr.

> > > Graves

> > > > as incredible as I'm certain he has a lot

> > > > more vested in this specific issue than we all

> > > know

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara

> > > > Elbrai wrote

> > > > > When you cite someone who has no credibility

> > of

> > > > any

> > > > > kind, you have no credibility of any kind.

> > It's

> > > > really

> > > > > that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> > > > > difficulty understanding that.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > This is exactly why I never post here. You

> > > > people

> > > > > > with your selling bridges and credability.

> > Who

> > > > has

> > > > > > credability over anything. Even if I was a

> > PHd

> > > > or

> > > > > > Biologist and stated something on here, I

> > > would

> > > > > > still get the " so if your so right where's

> > the

> > > > proof

> > > > > > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually

> > > quite

> > > > > > amusing how I can tell that you got angry

> at

> > > me

> > > > > > posting a simple message inquiring about

> > this.

> > > I

> > > > bet

> > > > > > your credability over everything you know

> is

> > > > through

> > > > > > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to

> > see

> > > > any

> > > > > > credentials. Being the supremely

> intelligent

> > > > > > individual that I am, I'll just " assume "

> > that

> > > > you

> > > > > > have no credability and that you citing

> Mr.

> > > > Graves

> > > > > > is at this point unequivical. Genuises,

> lol

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...>

> wrote:Before

> > > Mr

> > > > > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > > > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone

> could

> > > ask

> > > > Mr

> > > > > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously

> > appeared

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > > topic in this group. When you cite to him,

>

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sorry, I forgot to include the link of the clinic

where I am going, it is http://www.aids-siddharth.com/

Bye

--- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

> Sylvain,

> I am sorry but did i spread with you before? or is

> thsi a responce to the group?

> I have spoken/writen to someone here, but it seems

> hard to have a conversation with people about this.

> i

> suppose it is all about the unity of the group or

> trust that we can do it. but i please let me know

> where in India you are going. I have no heard of no

> clinics there, I am hoping to be in Europe to do

> extensive ozone therapy there. The is/are paper/s

> on

> interperiotenial ozone therapy and the dimishing

> effect of HIV and or HIV itself.

>

> Malik

>

> --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote:

>

> > I was wondering if you ever found someone to give

> > you

> > or how to have an injection of Tetrasil done.

> > I am about to go to India to a clinic that claims

> to

> > have thousands turned to hiv negative along with

> an

> > increase in health. I will see for myself and

> report

> > here.

> > I have been a member of this group for about 9

> > months

> > now and I have witnessed heated debate about the

> > inexistance of HIV versus people who are diagnosed

> > with HIV who become life treatening sick that are

> > told

> > to only treat their infections.

> > I have talked to many health professionals, in and

> > out

> > of the western medical system and they all agree

> > that

> > there is a colloration between CD4, viral count

> and

> > general health, despite what the dissidents claim.

> >

> > One thing is for sure. It's that people get sick,

> > either if they test HIV positive or not, and more

> > efficient and natural ways to maintain an overall

> > health and long life are needed. This is my quest.

> >

> > Humbly,

> > Sylvain

> >

> > --- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

> >

> > > ok, soooooooooooo people. does anyone want to

> go

> > on

> > > a

> > > quest with me to find a doctor that can admister

> > the

> > > Tetrasil in the states, mexico, israel,

> anywhere?

> > > is

> > > anyone brave enough?

> > >

> > > M

> > >

> > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > Obviously I posted the tetrasil question to

> > bring

> > > > about a discussion, as this is a mail group,

> and

> > > yet

> > > > was blasted with your funny credability post.

> If

> > > you

> > > > would have done a little bit of research, you

> > > would

> > > > have learned that it is " PATENTED " as a cure

> and

> > > > patents require scientific proof to become

> > > patents.

> > > > Also, Mr. Graves has the law suit going on as

> > >

> > > > stated. Since he practices law, and through

> > > > subpeonas, he's had access to documents that

> we

> > > can

> > > > only dream of seeing, not mention injections

> of

> > > > tetrasil. Since you like credability so much,

> do

> > > > some research before you speak. Actually what

> > you

> > > > should do is think before you speak.

> Comedians,

> > > > they're great!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > kevin <kevin@...> wrote:

> > > > As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there

> > is

> > > a

> > > > patent actually issued, there is some

> > > > serious credibility.

> > > >

> > > > Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue:

> as

> > > far

> > > > as I know it's whether or not HIV was

> > > > deliberately created in a governmental

> > laboratory

> > > > tested in the form of a vaccine. People

> > > > keep saying give me proof of the existence of

> > HIV!

> > >

> > > > Certainly Mr. Graves is attempting to

> > > > provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging

> war

> > > in

> > > > the courtroom. I believe he has filed his

> > > > case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as

> > we

> > > > speak, so it would be interesting to see

> > > > what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr.

> > > Graves

> > > > as incredible as I'm certain he has a lot

> > > > more vested in this specific issue than we all

> > > know

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara

> > > > Elbrai wrote

> > > > > When you cite someone who has no credibility

> > of

> > > > any

> > > > > kind, you have no credibility of any kind.

> > It's

> > > > really

> > > > > that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> > > > > difficulty understanding that.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > This is exactly why I never post here. You

> > > > people

> > > > > > with your selling bridges and credability.

> > Who

> > > > has

> > > > > > credability over anything. Even if I was a

> > PHd

> > > > or

> > > > > > Biologist and stated something on here, I

> > > would

> > > > > > still get the " so if your so right where's

> > the

> > > > proof

> > > > > > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually

> > > quite

> > > > > > amusing how I can tell that you got angry

> at

> > > me

> > > > > > posting a simple message inquiring about

> > this.

> > > I

> > > > bet

> > > > > > your credability over everything you know

> is

> > > > through

> > > > > > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to

> > see

> > > > any

> > > > > > credentials. Being the supremely

> intelligent

> > > > > > individual that I am, I'll just " assume "

> > that

> > > > you

> > > > > > have no credability and that you citing

> Mr.

> > > > Graves

> > > > > > is at this point unequivical. Genuises,

> lol

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...>

> wrote:Before

> > > Mr

> > > > > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > > > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone

> could

> > > ask

> > > > Mr

> > > > > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously

> > appeared

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > > topic in this group. When you cite to him,

>

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sorry, I forgot to include the link of the clinic

where I am going, it is http://www.aids-siddharth.com/

Bye

--- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

> Sylvain,

> I am sorry but did i spread with you before? or is

> thsi a responce to the group?

> I have spoken/writen to someone here, but it seems

> hard to have a conversation with people about this.

> i

> suppose it is all about the unity of the group or

> trust that we can do it. but i please let me know

> where in India you are going. I have no heard of no

> clinics there, I am hoping to be in Europe to do

> extensive ozone therapy there. The is/are paper/s

> on

> interperiotenial ozone therapy and the dimishing

> effect of HIV and or HIV itself.

>

> Malik

>

> --- Sylvain Gagnon <happytype@...> wrote:

>

> > I was wondering if you ever found someone to give

> > you

> > or how to have an injection of Tetrasil done.

> > I am about to go to India to a clinic that claims

> to

> > have thousands turned to hiv negative along with

> an

> > increase in health. I will see for myself and

> report

> > here.

> > I have been a member of this group for about 9

> > months

> > now and I have witnessed heated debate about the

> > inexistance of HIV versus people who are diagnosed

> > with HIV who become life treatening sick that are

> > told

> > to only treat their infections.

> > I have talked to many health professionals, in and

> > out

> > of the western medical system and they all agree

> > that

> > there is a colloration between CD4, viral count

> and

> > general health, despite what the dissidents claim.

> >

> > One thing is for sure. It's that people get sick,

> > either if they test HIV positive or not, and more

> > efficient and natural ways to maintain an overall

> > health and long life are needed. This is my quest.

> >

> > Humbly,

> > Sylvain

> >

> > --- Sun Radiant <que_tzalcoatl@...> wrote:

> >

> > > ok, soooooooooooo people. does anyone want to

> go

> > on

> > > a

> > > quest with me to find a doctor that can admister

> > the

> > > Tetrasil in the states, mexico, israel,

> anywhere?

> > > is

> > > anyone brave enough?

> > >

> > > M

> > >

> > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Thank you !!!!!!!!!!!

> > > > Obviously I posted the tetrasil question to

> > bring

> > > > about a discussion, as this is a mail group,

> and

> > > yet

> > > > was blasted with your funny credability post.

> If

> > > you

> > > > would have done a little bit of research, you

> > > would

> > > > have learned that it is " PATENTED " as a cure

> and

> > > > patents require scientific proof to become

> > > patents.

> > > > Also, Mr. Graves has the law suit going on as

> > >

> > > > stated. Since he practices law, and through

> > > > subpeonas, he's had access to documents that

> we

> > > can

> > > > only dream of seeing, not mention injections

> of

> > > > tetrasil. Since you like credability so much,

> do

> > > > some research before you speak. Actually what

> > you

> > > > should do is think before you speak.

> Comedians,

> > > > they're great!!!!!!!!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > kevin <kevin@...> wrote:

> > > > As far as tetrasil is concerned whenever there

> > is

> > > a

> > > > patent actually issued, there is some

> > > > serious credibility.

> > > >

> > > > Now Mr. Graves wages a very important issue:

> as

> > > far

> > > > as I know it's whether or not HIV was

> > > > deliberately created in a governmental

> > laboratory

> > > > tested in the form of a vaccine. People

> > > > keep saying give me proof of the existence of

> > HIV!

> > >

> > > > Certainly Mr. Graves is attempting to

> > > > provide proof of his theory of HIV by waging

> war

> > > in

> > > > the courtroom. I believe he has filed his

> > > > case and it's open in a San Diego courtroom as

> > we

> > > > speak, so it would be interesting to see

> > > > what becomes of it. I would not dismiss Mr.

> > > Graves

> > > > as incredible as I'm certain he has a lot

> > > > more vested in this specific issue than we all

> > > know

> > > > ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:41:25 -0700 (PDT), Sara

> > > > Elbrai wrote

> > > > > When you cite someone who has no credibility

> > of

> > > > any

> > > > > kind, you have no credibility of any kind.

> > It's

> > > > really

> > > > > that simple. It is unfortunate that you have

> > > > > difficulty understanding that.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- " D. Filips " <beetsmyth@...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > This is exactly why I never post here. You

> > > > people

> > > > > > with your selling bridges and credability.

> > Who

> > > > has

> > > > > > credability over anything. Even if I was a

> > PHd

> > > > or

> > > > > > Biologist and stated something on here, I

> > > would

> > > > > > still get the " so if your so right where's

> > the

> > > > proof

> > > > > > or the FDA approval " theory. It's actually

> > > quite

> > > > > > amusing how I can tell that you got angry

> at

> > > me

> > > > > > posting a simple message inquiring about

> > this.

> > > I

> > > > bet

> > > > > > your credability over everything you know

> is

> > > > through

> > > > > > the roof. No, don't worry I don't need to

> > see

> > > > any

> > > > > > credentials. Being the supremely

> intelligent

> > > > > > individual that I am, I'll just " assume "

> > that

> > > > you

> > > > > > have no credability and that you citing

> Mr.

> > > > Graves

> > > > > > is at this point unequivical. Genuises,

> lol

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sara Elbrai <selbrai@...>

> wrote:Before

> > > Mr

> > > > > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > > > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone

> could

> > > ask

> > > > Mr

> > > > > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously

> > appeared

> > > as

> > > > a

> > > > > > topic in this group. When you cite to him,

>

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Sylvain Gagnon

www.sylvaingagnon.net

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Hi,

Well, now that I figured out how to post, I'm trying it out.

Re: Tetrasil aka Imusil, the doctor who invented it (Dr. Marvin S.

Antelman)is here in the US (Rhode Island). More info can be found at

http://www.compassion-response.net/08Treatments/05Imusil.htm

including a link to his own company's website.

Dave

Before

> > > > Mr

> > > > > > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > > > > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone

> > could

> > > > ask

> > > > > Mr

> > > > > > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously

> > > appeared

> > > > as

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > topic in this group. When you cite to him,

> >

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> Musically yours,

> Sylvain Gagnon

> www.sylvaingagnon.net

> info@...

>

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Hi,

Well, now that I figured out how to post, I'm trying it out.

Re: Tetrasil aka Imusil, the doctor who invented it (Dr. Marvin S.

Antelman)is here in the US (Rhode Island). More info can be found at

http://www.compassion-response.net/08Treatments/05Imusil.htm

including a link to his own company's website.

Dave

Before

> > > > Mr

> > > > > > > Graves " proves " that the " government "

> > > > > > > created " this virus " , perhaps someone

> > could

> > > > ask

> > > > > Mr

> > > > > > > Graves to prove that " this virus " exists.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > By the way, Mr Graves has previously

> > > appeared

> > > > as

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > topic in this group. When you cite to him,

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

> Musically yours,

> Sylvain Gagnon

> www.sylvaingagnon.net

> info@...

>

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