proof of transmission....can u provide?

[Guest guest]

,

We've discussed this question here before. Its one of personal choice and

ethic. If one tested 'poz' and does not believe hiv exists(as

specifically claimed) or that it is only a harmless retrovirus....then

their attitude would be more careless about. Many claim there is no

absolute proof that hiv is the primary or only causitive agent in giving

one 'aids' - only a correlative, relative connection whose specific

dynamics is unknown. So....not much to go on eh ..or too much to

overwhelm one. One could only research, take in all the knowledge he can

process and then make up his own mind as to his sexual practice and

'safety' issues. Again a personal choice if one is to engage in sex with

others with them knowing their poz status or without them knowing it. We

could question whether divulging ones hiv status before sex matters - it

may only apply in a moral, ethical sense with those involved and then

still there is the question of scientific, documented proof that hiv

causes aids ....which many say is only correlative speculation with no

bona fide proof.

In a multi-factoral paradigm,...one may be more liberal with this

'transmission' issue. I am sure there are many persons of the dissident

mindset who see a 'poz' test result as rubbish or junk science - such

probably does not deter them from having occasional anonymous sex with

others. To him he has his justifications as there really is no harm in

it. (although other std may be contacted - is there just as much evidence

that hiv is sexually transmitted as there is say...ghonneria(sp?) or

syphillus?, etc. ) Others may judge this one if they knew his actions and

call such criminal - but they are under the belief that hiv is absolutely

the cause of aids and is sexually transmitted as primary way of

infection. So how does one really know???

I'm not sure if enough general, collective evidence exists...except for

hiv having a correlative connection with aids that hiv is surely sexually

transmitted and is the sole, primary direct cause of classical aids.

(this may be a very stupid speculation to mainstream doctors, scientists,

etc. since they insist tons of collective, objective, even scientific

evidence exists that hiv causes aids! - no doubt about it).Of course even

if it was....still the progression of the disease will be affecting by

multiple factors. So....according to many dissidents....the jury is still

out (so it seems from this little entity bobbing along the sea of the

information highway). But what the hell do I know? Do you have any

knowledge that can enlighten us?

Oh,....also....I know some people who have been having sex with anonymous

partners for many years....and they swallow semen and take loads of it in

their rectum quite willingly and joyously. Why are they still hiv neg?

Luck eh.

paul

On Sun, 22 May 2005 08:43:43 -0700 " Jovan "

<humansafe@...> writes:

> :

>

> I Would think that would apply to those that believe that

> transmission to

> another not being possible, would you or do you have sex with other

> people?

> This is actually something that I have been thinking of asking this

> group. I

> think it is a good topic for discussion. All belief aside, what

> would be the

> responsibility to others, I do not believe that this sort of virus,

> if it is

> that, can be transmitted any other way, or have not seen that

> occurrence.

> However what would it take for a person to safely think that they

> are free

> of any transmission to another?

>

>

> May God Bless You And Keep You Well

>

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