Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 In a message dated 7/22/2003 3:42:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Randyroadkill@... writes: I'm looking for some help. I was frightened by my doctor into starting AZT therapy about one year ago. I'm regretting it and want to get off the drugs. Does anyone out there know if I can just stop or do I have to " wean " myself? I've never been sick with the HIV and after reading many things in this group, I'm wondering if I really was " infected. " I can't give you medical advice, but I can tell you what I've observed in the 15 years or so that I've been aware of this gross medical fraud. When people stop the AIDS meds, most start feeling better immediately. Within 24 to 48 hours after stopping them, many report being able to think more clearly, and even not realizing what a fog they were in until it lifted. But beware, your doctor has been poisoning you for a year. Unless you had heavy side-effects (sweats, diarrhea, vomiting, etc.), your body has been absorbing the toxins. Once your body gets the message that it isn't being poisoned anymore, and assuming your vital organs haven't been totally destroyed, you will probably go into a detoxification and any eliminative symptoms (flu, herpes, yeast, etc.) you had before (and treated medically) will probably come back. If you go to the doctor with them you will never recover your health and can start planning your funeral. If you let your body do it's thing and just keep out of it's way, eventually all the toxins will be gone and you can live a long, healthy life. If you're afraid to do it on your own, there are holistic facilities you can go to -- a much better investment of money than so-called " health " insurance, which pretty well guarantees that you will undergo hundreds of thousands of dollars of medical treatments before you die, and probably 20 years or more before you should. See if you can find a holistic support group. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 People go on " drug holidays " all the time...they just stop. You could do the same. And never start again. After being " infected with the virus that causes AIDS " ( yeah, uh hun, sure...)for ten years, I question everything in the conventional wisdom. Have you read the introduction at http://curezone.com/diseases/aids/ ? I'll display it below. About AIDS AIDS... The government takes your rights. The doctors take your money. The medicine takes your life. A virus takes blame. WHAT THE EXPERTS SAY about AIDS … " AIDS is truly an iatrogenic disaster of the primary magnitude. By ‘iatrogenic’, we mean that clinical AIDS is a syndrome that is primarily being caused in the Western World now by doctors and their medicine. I’m not sure what’s more terrifying: that this state of affairs continues to exist at all in spite of all the obvious evidence, or that the English language actually has a word for it. " - - Newly Abbott, political researcher " Such evidence up till now has never been produced for HIV. No photograph of an isolated HIV particle has ever been published... No control experiments as mentioned have been published to date. What has been shown are photographs of virus-like particles in cell cultures, but none of isolated viruses, let alone a structure within the human body having the shape ascribed to HIV. " - Dr Stefan Lanka in HIV: Reality or Artefact " In truth, AZT makes you feel like you’re dying. That’s because on AZT you are. How can a deadly cell toxin conceivably make you feel better as it finishes you, by stopping your cells from dividing, by ending this vital process that distinguishes living things from dead things? Not for nothing does AZT come with a skull and cross-bones label when packaged for laboratory use. " - Brink, AIDS researcher " It’s not even probable, let alone scientifically proven, that HIV causes AIDS. If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific documents which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact.… There are no such documents. " - Dr Kary Mullis, Nobel Laureate for Chemistry " But there was never really to my mind, and I have looked at this very closely now, evidence of a new virus actually being isolated…. I think, like myself, in that second half of the 1980s, it was a great story and we took it on board as a kind of public health emergency too. And that’s a danger with any group of professionals, whether they are media workers or scientists, to get too close to the sort of propagandising that happened with AIDS. We lost our sense of judgement, I’m afraid on this issue, because we felt that sense of fear and urgency. It was like a war and in those circumstances the critical judgement went out of the window for too many of us. " - Neville Hodgkinson, former science and medical correspondent for the London Times " If you think a virus is the cause of AIDS, do a control without it. To do a control is the first thing you teach undergraduates. But it hasn’t been done. The epidemiology of AIDS is a pile of anecdotal stories selected to fit the virus-AIDS hypothesis. People don’t bother to check the details of popular dogma or consensus views. " - Professor H Duesberg, University of California, Berkeley " The [HIV] hypothesis has become all things to all people. It violates everything we previously knew about virus disease, and allows any kind of therapy, any kind of research, to generate research bucks. What kind of science continues to place all its marbles, all its faith, all its research dollars, in such a theory? The answer I keep coming back to is that it has nothing to do with science; the reasons are all unscientific. We have taken sex and equated it with death, and into that mixture we have thrown money. What an ugly stew. " – Dr Harvey Bialy, editor Bio/Technology " HIV imprinting has become subconsciously internalised on such a global scale that people will not be able to accept the brute reality that HIV does not exist. " - , assistant editor Continuum Magazine " With public health officials and politicians thrashing out who should be tested for HIV, the accuracy of the test itself has been nearly ignored. A study last month by Congress’s Office of Technology Assessment found that HIV tests can be very inaccurate indeed. For groups at very low risk - people who don’t use IV drugs or have sex with gay or bisexual men - 9 in 10 positive findings are called false positives, indicating infection where none exists. " - US News & World Report, 23rd November 1987 " In the September 4th issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association [JAMA], the CDC announced that a diagnosis of AIDS no longer requires an AIDS test. The government now considers you are an AIDS carrier if you suffer from any of the maladies on its new list of diseases indicative of AIDS, including such relatively common infections as herpes simplex, tuberculosis, Salmonellosis and a shockingly broad ‘other bacterial infections’. This broad definition will lead to countless new AIDS diagnoses - whether or not the person actually has AIDS. " - Los Angeles Weekly, 18th December 1987 " It is beyond belief. I don’t know what to do. I’m ashamed of my colleagues. I’m embarrassed. This is such shoddy science. It’s hard to believe nobody’s protesting. Damned cowards! The name of the game is to protect your grants. Don’t open your mouth. It’s all about money. It’s grounds for just following the party line and not being critical when there are obvious financial and political forces that are driving this. " – Dr ph Sonnabend, AIDS researcher " In pregnant women treated with AZT at a hospital in India, Kumar et al. report a shocking number of therapeutic and spontaneous abortions, and of the live births, a number of grotesque birth defects included holes in the chest, abnormal indentations at the base of the spine, misplaced ears, mis-shapen faces, heart defects, extra digits and albinism. " - Kumar et al., Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndromes, 7:1034-9, 1994 " I have worked as a medical science reporter for 30 years. I began this career at age 22. I’ve interviewed thousands of scientists for newspaper and magazine stories, radio and television productions, and books. I’ve met many scientists who at least try to keep an open and fair mind on scientific issues. I have also met many propagandists who think they’re scientists. In all the time I’ve worked as a journalist, I’ve never come across a nastier group of people to interview than those propagandists who work in HIV research. " - Regush, " Second Opinion " , ABC News " Families just bring [children] as orphans, and if you ask how the parents died they will say AIDS. It is fashionable nowadays to say that, because it brings money and support. If you say your father has died in a car accident it is bad luck, but if he has died from AIDS there is an agency to help you. The local people have seen so many agencies coming, called AIDS support programs, that they want to join this group of victims. Everybody claims to be a victim of AIDS nowadays. And local people working for AIDS agencies have become rich. They have built homes in Dar es Salaam, they have their motorbikes; they have benefited a lot... We have everybody coming here now, the World Bank, the churches, the Red Cross, the UN Development Program, the African Medical Research Foundation, about 17 organizations reportedly doing something for AIDS in Kagera. It brings jobs, cars; the day there is no more AIDS, a lot development is going to go away.... You don't need AIDS patients to have an AIDS epidemic nowadays, because what is wrong doesn't need to be proved. Nobody checks; AIDS exists by itself. " – Philippe Krynen, director of ‘Partage’, an organisation dedicated to supporting sick and displaced families (and especially children) in Tanzania More at: http://curezone.com/diseases/aids/ And More at: http://www.virusmyth.org/aids Click on the 'TOUR' link near the end of the page. - chuiandkatie <Randyroadkill@...> wrote: I'm looking for some help. I was frightened by my doctor into starting AZT therapy about one year ago. I'm regretting it and want to get off the drugs. Does anyone out there know if I can just stop or do I have to " wean " myself? I've never been sick with the HIV and after reading many things in this group, I'm wondering if I really was " infected. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Ed, When you say body organs totally destroyed ... I think it right to mention regeneration and repair of damaged body organs. With today's technology and knowledge there are claims that those who had no body organ (ie had it removed) regenerate and regrow them which of course comes from the fact that all of us were born from a single cell where each cell has an entire blueprint of our body. Some very interesting issues are regrowing amputated limbs and generating a third set of teeth. This goes well beyond repairing damaged body organs. If anyone wants to research these issues simply dig into the information on the internet and follow the information until you start finding individuals who know something about these subjects. I personally have covered the subjects from a variety of different approaches. When stopping medications I see a lot of information on viral load rebounds. However, I also see protocols that spike viral loads levels that then reduce over time and are associated with definite AIDS remissions so one would have to question the role of viral load levels as prognostic of developing AIDS. For Example the Bob Beck protocol is claimed to spike viral load levels in 7-14 days and the LifeStar.com CD4 restoration AIDS remission protocol is claimed to spike viral load levels off the charts (1.5 million) in 48 hours. The lifestar program is very captivating as it changes one's aura .... very interesting to me. I don't like the price however and I straight up told Joe he is charging to much for it. An additional opinion of mine is viral resistance as measuring the degree of body organ damage. Interesting that viral resistance is claimed to immediately goes away once one goes of the meds. Kev Re: AZT cocktail > In a message dated 7/22/2003 3:42:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Randyroadkill@... writes: > I'm looking for some help. I was frightened by my doctor into > starting AZT therapy about one year ago. I'm regretting it and want > to get off the drugs. Does anyone out there know if I can just stop > or do I have to " wean " myself? I've never been sick with the HIV and > after reading many things in this group, I'm wondering if I really > was " infected. " > I can't give you medical advice, but I can tell you what I've observed in the > 15 years or so that I've been aware of this gross medical fraud. When people > stop the AIDS meds, most start feeling better immediately. Within 24 to 48 > hours after stopping them, many report being able to think more clearly, and > even not realizing what a fog they were in until it lifted. > > But beware, your doctor has been poisoning you for a year. Unless you had > heavy side-effects (sweats, diarrhea, vomiting, etc.), your body has been > absorbing the toxins. Once your body gets the message that it isn't being poisoned > anymore, and assuming your vital organs haven't been totally destroyed, you > will probably go into a detoxification and any eliminative symptoms (flu, > herpes, yeast, etc.) you had before (and treated medically) will probably come back. > If you go to the doctor with them you will never recover your health and can > start planning your funeral. If you let your body do it's thing and just > keep out of it's way, eventually all the toxins will be gone and you can live a > long, healthy life. > > If you're afraid to do it on your own, there are holistic facilities you can > go to -- a much better investment of money than so-called " health " insurance, > which pretty well guarantees that you will undergo hundreds of thousands of > dollars of medical treatments before you die, and probably 20 years or more > before you should. > > See if you can find a holistic support group. > > Ed > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2003 Report Share Posted July 22, 2003 Kev, I've heard about people getting a third set of teeth (I'd could use some of those) from experts on Natural Hygiene, but I've never seen it happen, although I wonder about the 4 wisdom teeth that were removed when I was a teenager, and the others that the last dentist I went to wanted to remove. I'd be interested in any links you might have to this and regeneration of surgically removed organs and/or limbs. One of the first people I knew who recovered from full-blown (six weeks to death) AIDS was also told by the doctors that his liver was shot and his only hope was for a transplant -- which he probably couldn't get because of his hiv status. Well, a biopsy performed about 4 years after his recovery from AIDS showed he had a perfectly normal and healthy liver. Of course, by that time he had been on a 100% raw vegan diet and rebounding daily for more than 7 years. He, and other people I've met on the same diet have actually had dental cavities repair on their own! As to viral load, it is a load of crap and a waste of time, money and blood. Anyone who continues to see AIDS mediquack doctors once they decide to stop the medical poisoning is asking for trouble. It is a toxic environment to put yourself in. Look at what is happening with , for example. So-called " viral resistance, " to the best of my knowledge, has never been demonstrated. It's just another theory. When the drugs damage the immune system to the point that it can no longer manufacture t-cells to keep pace with the toxic load, they claim the virus is resistant. It's total medical madness. I'm surprised more people aren't pumping bullets into doctors. Maybe they are and the press is keeping it quiet for fear of spawning an epidemic. I know when such a case happened here in Florida a couple of years ago, the story got minimal local coverage and no national coverage to my knowledge. Ed In a message dated 7/22/2003 11:19:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kevin@... writes: When you say body organs totally destroyed ... I think it right to mention regeneration and repair of damaged body organs. With today's technology and knowledge there are claims that those who had no body organ (ie had it removed) regenerate and regrow them which of course comes from the fact that all of us were born from a single cell where each cell has an entire blueprint of our body. Some very interesting issues are regrowing amputated limbs and generating a third set of teeth. This goes well beyond repairing damaged body organs. If anyone wants to research these issues simply dig into the information on the internet and follow the information until you start finding individuals who know something about these subjects. I personally have covered the subjects from a variety of different approaches. When stopping medications I see a lot of information on viral load rebounds. However, I also see protocols that spike viral loads levels that then reduce over time and are associated with definite AIDS remissions so one would have to question the role of viral load levels as prognostic of developing AIDS. For Example the Bob Beck protocol is claimed to spike viral load levels in 7-14 days and the LifeStar.com CD4 restoration AIDS remission protocol is claimed to spike viral load levels off the charts (1.5 million) in 48 hours. The lifestar program is very captivating as it changes one's aura .... very interesting to me. I don't like the price however and I straight up told Joe he is charging to much for it. An additional opinion of mine is viral resistance as measuring the degree of body organ damage. Interesting that viral resistance is claimed to immediately goes away once one goes of the meds. Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 In a message dated 7/23/2003 11:21:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, monica.alexander@... writes: Well, it's been over 3 years and me and my husband are alive and well. I immediately stopped taking my pills and noticed I was able to sleep better, my dizzy spells stopped and I was having heart palpitations - no longer have those. My husband was on all types of cocktails and he was a mess, constant diaherra, drastic weight loss and darkening of skin, cramps just to name a few. It took about a year before he appeared to be his old self. As for my 2 1/2 year old, he seems to be normal & healthy as any other toddler his age, he sure keeps us BUSY and worn out!!!!! , That w2s a great reply to Randyroadkill. I forwarded it to a guy I've been " working on " for over a year. He's been questioning his social workers and doctors about these things and finds it " funny " that they can't answer his questions. Maybe this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I'm a little confused on timing here. It sounds like you stopped the medications during your pregnancy. ANd, if so, why did you allow them to medicate the baby? I'm glad your son is doing well. The earlier AZT babies weren't so lucky. I imagine they've lowered the dosages from the earliest studies. My theory: They are experimenting on pregnant American women to find the dosage that would not kill the babies, but would leave them sterile. I believe the $16 billion dollars Bush is giving to the multi-national pharmaceutical companies is designed to sterilize an entire generation of Africans. It's a similar tactic to some of the more successful methods of controlling insect population. I wonder if any AZT babies have reached puberty yet. If anyone knows of any, this should be looked into. I fear it will be a decade before this becomes obvious and it will be too late to do anything about it by then. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 In a message dated 7/22/2003 3:42:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Randyroadkill@... writes: I'm looking for some help. I was frightened by my doctor into starting AZT therapy about one year ago. I'm regretting it and want to get off the drugs. Does anyone out there know if I can just stop or do I have to " wean " myself? I've never been sick with the HIV and after reading many things in this group, I'm wondering if I really was " infected. " ************************************************************************* Hi, My husband and I took cocktails for about 3 years and I was given AZT during labor also my 5lb infant son was given AZT for 6weeks (he is -). After seeing the light, there was no way I could continue to put that crap in my body. If what I read was not true, after learning what these drugs can do I'd rather die a " natural " death. Well, it's been over 3 years and me and my husband are alive and well. I immediately stopped taking my pills and noticed I was able to sleep better, my dizzy spells stopped and I was having heart palpitations - no longer have those. My husband was on all types of cocktails and he was a mess, constant diaherra, drastic weight loss and darkening of skin, cramps just to name a few. It took about a year before he appeared to be his old self. As for my 2 1/2 year old, he seems to be normal & healthy as any other toddler his age, he sure keeps us BUSY and worn out!!!!! Please continue to read the material on AZT. Yes, your drs will try to scare the hell outta you, telling you that you will die, the virus will duplicate ...or is it mutate, one of those words she used. They'll tell you that you will get sick and beyond help. ALL LIES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 SORRY...............HIT SEND BY MISTAKE.... In a message dated 7/22/2003 3:42:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Randyroadkill@... writes: I'm looking for some help. I was frightened by my doctor into starting AZT therapy about one year ago. I'm regretting it and want to get off the drugs. Does anyone out there know if I can just stop or do I have to " wean " myself? I've never been sick with the HIV and after reading many things in this group, I'm wondering if I really was " infected. " ************************************************************************* Hi, My husband and I took cocktails for about 3 years and I was given AZT during labor also my 5lb infant son was given AZT for 6weeks (he is -). After seeing the light, there was no way I could continue to put that crap in my body. If what I read was not true, after learning what these drugs can do I'd rather die a " natural " death. Well, it's been over 3 years and me and my husband are alive and well. I immediately stopped taking my pills and noticed I was able to sleep better, my dizzy spells stopped and I was having heart palpitations - no longer have those. My husband was on all types of cocktails and he was a mess, constant diaherra, drastic weight loss and darkening of skin, cramps just to name a few. It took about a year before he appeared to be his old self. As for my 2 1/2 year old, he seems to be normal & healthy as any other toddler his age, he sure keeps us BUSY and worn out!!!!! Please continue to read the material on AZT. Yes, your drs will try to scare the hell outta you, telling you that you will die, the virus will duplicate ...or is it mutate, one of those words she used. They'll tell you that you will get sick and beyond help. ALL LIES There are many people who got off the meds, improved their lifestyle, corrected any former health issues and are alive and well. I'm one of them. I admire you for searching for the truth and standing up for your health. Don't back down on what you know is true, I don't care who it is. You're dr is just a person, you know more that he/she does. AZT is deadly and there is no other way to sugarcoat it. You take it long enough and it will produce FATAL results. The next time your dr tries to MANIPULATE you by using the FEAR tactic, take out all this info you have on AZT. Look him in the eye and ask, " After hearing this,why do you want me to take this if I'm as sick as you claim I am " ? Go to this link: http://www.aliveandwell.org/index.php?page=cert1 By asking physicians to stand behind their recommendations for tests and treatments, the documents reveal their confidence in these procedures as well as their knowledge of the serious potential consequences of administering non-specific HIV tests and toxic, experimental AIDS drugs. They also alert doctors to your understanding of the faults and risks of tests and treatments. If your doctor is certain that HIV tests are accurate, reliable, and able to diagnose actual infection with HIV, s/he should agree to sign the certificates without hesitation, and acknowledge, in writing, their professional endorsement of these procedures. If your doctor is confident that the AIDS drug treatments s/he recommends will prevent illnesses associated with AIDS and prolong your life, they should be willing to confirm this in writing. Let us know after doing this how your next visit (do your really want to go back????)went. AZT http://www.whatisaids.com/azt.jpeg Ironically, the easiest way to stop cells from multiplying is to stop them from dividing -- from creating new cells. Burroughs Wellcome discovered a way to interfere with the normal DNA reproduction of a cell, called a DNA-inhibitor -- AZT. Unfortunately, there is no way for a DNA-inhibitor to tell the difference between a useful, healthy cell and a diseased cell. It simply interferes with them all. A cell will die trying to reproduce itself (as virtually all cells want to do), stopped by the DNA-inhibitor. (This is how most chemotherapy works for cancer patients today. The drugs stop cells from dividing, and the cells die. All the cells. The death of those cells that normally divide most frequently -- like hair cells -- is noticed first; therefore, hair loss. What isn't so noticeable are the normal, healthy cells that are killed in the process, including the T-cells of the immune system. Most cancer patients die of the opportunistic diseases that result from immune suppression rather than from the cancer tumors themselves.) However, Burroughs Wellcome didn't even try to get AZT approved for manufacture or use. Standard testing of the drug found that it was so powerful in destroying cells -- so toxic -- that it would kill the patient faster than the disease would. When Jerome Horwitz, head of a lab at the Detroit Cancer Foundation in 1964, tested AZT on cancer-ridden mice, it failed to cure the cancer. The mice died all right, but from the extreme toxicity of the drug itself and not from the cancer. AZT was quickly put on the shelf. Well, if a virus that causes cancer is causing AIDS, then a drug that cures cancer should cure AIDS. Burroughs Wellcome pulled AZT off the shelf in 1985 and submitted it to the Food and Drug Administration of the United States (the FDA) for approval, claiming it would specifically kill only HIV-infected T-cells. Normally, for a drug to be approved by the FDA, it takes about a year of research and testing -- including carefully monitored double-blind studies -- and then another year of FDA red tape. And while waiting for an FDA approval, the pharmaceutical company usually cannot manufacture or sell the drug. But AZT was a very special drug for a very special disease, backed by very special people. So it got very special attention. (It also helped to have Burroughs Wellcome paying $10,000 per study patient to each clinic involved.) The short story is that the double-blind studies broke down within weeks. " A move to stop the trial began immediately. The toxicity of AZT was proving to be extremely high, " says Bruce Nussbaum in his 1990 book, Good Intentions. " The FDA inspector found multiple deviations from standard protocol procedure, " an official later commented. Another FDA official admitted, " Whatever the 'real' data may be, clearly patients in this study...reported many disease symptoms from possible adverse drug experiences. " Delaney, founder of Project Inform, added, " The multi-center trials of AZT are perhaps the sloppiest and most poorly conducted trials ever to serve as the basis for an FDA drug licensing approval. " No matter. Burroughs Wellcome responded by requesting special permission to go ahead and sell AZT while the FDA decided whether or not to approve it. Five days later, thanks to some highly-placed political pressure, that permission was granted. The FDA also dropped the normal requirements that AZT be tested on mice. Six months later, AZT had full approval by the FDA. It could now be sold as a treatment for AIDS. Want to know how all this could happen? SHOW ME THE MONEY! Cumulative sales (July '96): $ 2.5 BILLION Of course, Burroughs Wellcome (and other manufacturers, like Sigma) still have to put the correct warnings on the drug labels. Here's what it says for AZT.... Yes, be careful. Be sure to wear suitable protective clothing while swallowing AZT that is toxic when swallowed. The skull and crossbones signify an unusual chemical hazard. This label must appear on bottles containing 25 milligrams of AZT -- a small fraction of a patient's recommended daily dose. What does AZT do that makes it so dangerous? AZT kills dividing cells anywhere in the body, but especially (as the warning label says) in the bone marrow where new red blood cells and white blood cells are made. (Remember that T-cells are white blood cells that form the backbone of the body's immune system.) And it does the best job at killing these cells than any other drug discovered to date. Apparently at Burroughs Wellcome, the thinking was that AZT would kill HIV-infected T-cells and thus be a cure for AIDS. It does do that. It kills T-cells extremely well, but all T-cells, whether or not they are HIV-infected -- healthy cells as well as sick cells. Repeat: AZT is dramatically effective in killing virus-infected and uninfected T-cells alike. And since only 1 in about 1000 T-cells of an HIV Positive person is ever " infected " , AZT must kill 999 good T-cells in the process. Let's think about this for a moment. We've got a patient with AIDS -- a patient with a T-cell deficiency, suffering from an opportunistic disease. The immune system is already shot. So we're going to cure them by giving them a drug (AZT) that kills all their remaining T-cells faster than anything else in the world. Are we nuts? Giving AZT to an AIDS patient is the kiss of death. If they don't die from the opportunistic disease they started with, they'll surely die from the other diseases that appear as their immune system is destroyed even further by the drug. NOTE: ALL AIDS & HIV drugs contains some form of AZT in them. AZT Chemical Name: Azidothymidine Generic Name: Zidovudine AZT Brand Name: Retrovir, Combivir Manufacturer: Glaxo-Wellcome , Burroughs Wellcome http://aliveandwell-eugene.dreamhost.com/aidsgate/text9.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Ok Ed, You are looking at two different things here .... regenerating tooth enamel and regrowing lost teeth. For the first Oak galls are claimed to be the most important followed by fresh inner bark oak strips (vertical strips not to kill the tree). A good place to look are the ingredients for Dr. Schulze's tooth and gum formula. For regenerating a third set of teeth and/or regenerating lost teeth from what I am looking at it takes a very very clean energized body to do this then add in Xenon. Here are a couple of links one to a man who says he has had success with getting people to develop a third set of teeth. It of course is well know to get struck by lightening is associated with a new set of teeth. What is being said that it is much more common to regrow enamel then to generate new teeth. These links will take you to a lot of considerations some of which are the importance of visualization, and cellular energy levels and a very clean, clear body. Dental Stories http://www20.brinkster.com/kindred2001/healteeth/morestories.html http://www.mysticgateway.org/wwwboard/messages/348.html healing or regrowing teeth http://hilarion.com/igd.html Teeth site experienced teeth regrowing As far as I understand Bob Beck's Magnetic Pulser provides incredible results for dental infections: cavities, root canals and the like. Be aware that when one starts regenerating their tooth enamel that their fillings start popping off and apparently once this starts it's a very fast process! As far as regrowing body limbs as far as I can see this is associated with electrotherapy: electric, magnetic and electromagnetic fields. The Secret of Life by s Lakhovsky the new 2000 version of the book has a specific section on this. Sam Bisers " Save Your Life Video Collection " that primarily features Dr. Schulze has information on regrowing non-existent body organs and regenerating and repairing body organs via aggressive natural healing. Regenerating and repairing body organs appears to be the easier than the others given one gets in control of their thoughts, feelings, attitudes about things and develop great control over their actions. Certainly as one progresses into researching these topics doctors of the future appear to be like Star Track. I could think of more things, but this is what comes to mind at the moment as one thing I have totally left out is the oxygen medicinal platform of the 21st century. Go ahead Ed and get yourself a third set of teeth so you can tell me about how you did it! And I'm not saying it's going to be easy and I'm also not saying it would be hard either, one certainly would likely have to effectively exercise their healing options to get a third set of teeth. Kev Re: AZT cocktail > Kev, > > I've heard about people getting a third set of teeth (I'd could use some of > those) from experts on Natural Hygiene, but I've never seen it happen, although > I wonder about the 4 wisdom teeth that were removed when I was a teenager, > and the others that the last dentist I went to wanted to remove. I'd be > interested in any links you might have to this and regeneration of surgically removed > organs and/or limbs. > > One of the first people I knew who recovered from full-blown (six weeks to > death) AIDS was also told by the doctors that his liver was shot and his only > hope was for a transplant -- which he probably couldn't get because of his hiv > status. Well, a biopsy performed about 4 years after his recovery from AIDS > showed he had a perfectly normal and healthy liver. Of course, by that time he > had been on a 100% raw vegan diet and rebounding daily for more than 7 years. > He, and other people I've met on the same diet have actually had dental > cavities repair on their own! > > As to viral load, it is a load of crap and a waste of time, money and blood. > Anyone who continues to see AIDS mediquack doctors once they decide to stop > the medical poisoning is asking for trouble. It is a toxic environment to put > yourself in. Look at what is happening with , for example. > > So-called " viral resistance, " to the best of my knowledge, has never been > demonstrated. It's just another theory. When the drugs damage the immune system > to the point that it can no longer manufacture t-cells to keep pace with the > toxic load, they claim the virus is resistant. It's total medical madness. > I'm surprised more people aren't pumping bullets into doctors. Maybe they are > and the press is keeping it quiet for fear of spawning an epidemic. I know > when such a case happened here in Florida a couple of years ago, the story got > minimal local coverage and no national coverage to my knowledge. > > Ed > > > In a message dated 7/22/2003 11:19:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > kevin@... writes: > When you say body organs totally destroyed ... I think it right to mention > regeneration and repair of damaged body organs. With today's technology and > knowledge there are claims that those who had no body organ (ie had it > removed) regenerate and regrow them which of course comes from the fact > that all of us were born from a single cell where each cell has an entire > blueprint of our body. Some very interesting issues are regrowing amputated > limbs and generating a third set of teeth. This goes well beyond repairing > damaged body organs. If anyone wants to research these issues simply dig > into the information on the internet and follow the information until you > start finding individuals who know something about these subjects. I > personally have covered the subjects from a variety of different approaches. > > When stopping medications I see a lot of information on viral load rebounds. > However, I also see protocols that spike viral loads levels that then reduce > over time and are associated with definite AIDS remissions so one would have > to question the role of viral load levels as prognostic of developing AIDS. > For Example the Bob Beck protocol is claimed to spike viral load levels in > 7-14 days and the LifeStar.com CD4 restoration AIDS remission protocol is > claimed to spike viral load levels off the charts (1.5 million) in 48 hours. > The lifestar program is very captivating as it changes one's aura .... very > interesting to me. I don't like the price however and I straight up told > Joe he is charging to much for it. > > An additional opinion of mine is viral resistance as measuring the degree of > body organ damage. Interesting that viral resistance is claimed to > immediately goes away once one goes of the meds. > > Kev > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Thanks Ed, I aologize for any confusion, I can write long notes and I'm trying to work on that. Unfortunately, I didn't understand the HIV drama until my son was almost a year old. As I think back, there are so many " funny " things that I can't belive I " Ms. Many Questions " , never bothered to ask. I'm trying to get over that guilt I feel concerning my son. The dr wanted me to have him participate in a study, even though he was - until he was 21. At 1st I agreed, thinking whatever I could do to help another child I would. It wasn't until I went to the first " trial " , they REALLY explained the purpose of the study. Most children who were positive and took AZT,( which is the only meds they give them, to cocktails at that time and to my knowledge still aren't designed for small children) died before they could study any adverse effects of the AZT and since children of parents who are Poz must take it for 6 weeks they want to study them. When the nurse explained this to me, I felt numb, I ASKED THAT DR IF THE AZT COULD HARM MY BABY, now they want to " study " him until he's 21 for adverse effects!!!! I find this out after I gave him the medicine. Then I asked her what was the findings of the study so far, her reply, they're just getting this off the ground at this time. I decided never to bring my baby back to that clinic again. They insisted on doing his immunization shots or any shots he needed, only those. When he was really sick, (one day vomited and bad loose stools , he was a few weeks old) these " concerned " drs told me to take him to emergency. When I called his peds dr, they had me come right over and we found out it was his milk that made him sick. I stopped the trial and the nurse harassed me to get him back in. She even contacted the Health Dept and they sent 3 letters to my home. The Health Dept was under the impression I didn't have health insurance to continue taking him to the clinic, I did have insurance already. When the last letter's language was a little strong I called them and told them my son isn't pos and I have insurance and I can send him where I like. I just pray to God that He will give me the knowledge to keep us healthy and strong as He has done. My heart goes out to the mothers and infants, especially those in Africa that are being taking Nevirapine. The WHO is still saying after all the data it's ok to give this poision to women and their babies. It makes one wonder the intent to " help " the Africans after so much information has been shown that this drugs destroys and the target is mothers and infants. I don't try to get into " conspiracy theories " but since many aren't tested (HA ), based on the symptoms they conclude whether or not your positive and instead of improving these people living conditions and providing food and health care really makes you wonder....... Take it easy.. oh I tried the rebounder and it's it no joke, I thought I could get on it and do it for at least 15 minutes.. my FIRST TRY, (LOL) but after barely 2 minutes, I must say I have a new respect for just " jumping up and down " . Maybe by the end of the month I can get to 5????? M aidsisover@... m cures for AIDS cc: 07/23/2003 11:57 Subject: Re: AZT cocktail AM Please respond to cures for AIDS In a message dated 7/23/2003 11:21:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time, monica.alexander@... writes: Well, it's been over 3 years and me and my husband are alive and well. I immediately stopped taking my pills and noticed I was able to sleep better, my dizzy spells stopped and I was having heart palpitations - no longer have those. My husband was on all types of cocktails and he was a mess, constant diaherra, drastic weight loss and darkening of skin, cramps just to name a few. It took about a year before he appeared to be his old self. As for my 2 1/2 year old, he seems to be normal & healthy as any other toddler his age, he sure keeps us BUSY and worn out!!!!! , That w2s a great reply to Randyroadkill. I forwarded it to a guy I've been " working on " for over a year. He's been questioning his social workers and doctors about these things and finds it " funny " that they can't answer his questions. Maybe this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I'm a little confused on timing here. It sounds like you stopped the medications during your pregnancy. ANd, if so, why did you allow them to medicate the baby? I'm glad your son is doing well. The earlier AZT babies weren't so lucky. I imagine they've lowered the dosages from the earliest studies. My theory: They are experimenting on pregnant American women to find the dosage that would not kill the babies, but would leave them sterile. I believe the $16 billion dollars Bush is giving to the multi-national pharmaceutical companies is designed to sterilize an entire generation of Africans. It's a similar tactic to some of the more successful methods of controlling insect population. I wonder if any AZT babies have reached puberty yet. If anyone knows of any, this should be looked into. I fear it will be a decade before this becomes obvious and it will be too late to do anything about it by then. Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 I said it's my theory, but its pretty logical. Pregnant women are told not to smoke or drink alcohol and now we give them and their babies a failed chemotherapy drug, a DNA chain terminator, that was deemed too toxic to ever be tested on humans??? What other theories do you claim I talk about? Everything on my homepage is fact, with the exception of my prediction that a vaccine (at best useless, but probably harmful like most other vaccines) will be announced to explain and coverup the disappearance of AIDS in this country. Are we being told the truth about AIDS? Ed In a message dated 7/24/2003 1:37:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sey_mour2003@... writes: My theory: They are experimenting on pregnant American women to find the dosage that would not kill the babies, but would leave them sterile. I believe the $16 billion dollars Bush is giving to the multi-national pharmaceutical companies is designed to sterilize an entire generation of Africans. It's a similar tactic to some of the more successful methods of controlling insect population. I wonder if any AZT babies have reached puberty yet. If anyone knows of any, this should be looked into. I fear it will be a decade before this becomes obvious and it will be too late to do anything about it by then. Ed Do you have evidence of this or is it just a theory like so many hiv/aids theories that you talk about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 My theory: They are experimenting on pregnant American women to find the dosage that would not kill the babies, but would leave them sterile. I believe the $16 billion dollars Bush is giving to the multi-national pharmaceutical companies is designed to sterilize an entire generation of Africans. It's a similar tactic to some of the more successful methods of controlling insect population. I wonder if any AZT babies have reached puberty yet. If anyone knows of any, this should be looked into. I fear it will be a decade before this becomes obvious and it will be too late to do anything about it by then. Ed Do you have evidence of this or is it just a theory like so many hiv/aids theories that you talk about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 Tomy, What was said about AZT & pregant woman was as stated just a theory, but the majority of information provided from this postgroup regarding HIV/AIDS is NOT theory, it is PROVEN FACTS. Smart is believing only half of what you hear, brilliant is knowing which half to believe. " Most people are more comfortable with old problems than with new solutions. " All truth goes through three stages: First it is ridiculed. Then it is violently opposed. Finally it is accepted as self evident. " May God bless you and lead you in your journey, M tomy thomson <sey_mour2003@yah cures for AIDS oo.com.au> cc: Subject: Re: AZT cocktail 07/24/2003 01:35 AM Please respond to cures for AIDS My theory: They are experimenting on pregnant American women to find the dosage that would not kill the babies, but would leave them sterile. I believe the $16 billion dollars Bush is giving to the multi-national pharmaceutical companies is designed to sterilize an entire generation of Africans. It's a similar tactic to some of the more successful methods of controlling insect population. I wonder if any AZT babies have reached puberty yet. If anyone knows of any, this should be looked into. I fear it will be a decade before this becomes obvious and it will be too late to do anything about it by then. Ed Do you have evidence of this or is it just a theory like so many hiv/aids theories that you talk about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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