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Saul,

The guy that makes the Aranizer claims that it produces O4, O5, O6, etc. and

that those molecules are more powerful than O3. What's your take on this. I read

the info and it sounds like smoke and mirrors.

Thanks,

Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote:

Dear Nena,

Aran is ozone.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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Subject: Re: Aranizer

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:45:30 -0500

Aranizer

> Nenah I have a question for you regarding the aranizer. I also run one

24/7

> in my bedroom. I lost the elastic in everything from fitted sheets to

pants to

> pantyhose.

> Have you experienced this problem in your home?

> Thanks in advance.

> Christel

I've not experienced this...but if there's rubber and similar products

exposed

to the Aran, it would act similarly to ozone.

Nenah

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alternative self-help subjects.

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Saul,

The guy that makes the Aranizer claims that it produces O4, O5, O6, etc. and

that those molecules are more powerful than O3. What's your take on this. I read

the info and it sounds like smoke and mirrors.

Thanks,

Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote:

Dear Nena,

Aran is ozone.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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Subject: Re: Aranizer

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:45:30 -0500

Aranizer

> Nenah I have a question for you regarding the aranizer. I also run one

24/7

> in my bedroom. I lost the elastic in everything from fitted sheets to

pants to

> pantyhose.

> Have you experienced this problem in your home?

> Thanks in advance.

> Christel

I've not experienced this...but if there's rubber and similar products

exposed

to the Aran, it would act similarly to ozone.

Nenah

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

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Yes it will have effects in this sequence and magnitude. First rubber, second

corrode surface of copper and alumium. There is a history of shorts and fire

from alumium contacts in fuse boxes from using alumium 240 wiring coming in to

the household. It will accelerate the breakdown of wood and other fiberous

materials. last it will slowly break down the insulation, new type, on the

electrical wiring. Anything from anybody else?

Dwight Munson

Aranizer

>

>

> >

> >

> > << I put an Aranizer (SS-8) under

> > the house (there's a crawl space, no basement) and it's working nicely.

I

> > also

> > run Aranizers inside the house itself. >>

> > -----

> > Nenah I have a question for you regarding the aranizer. I also run one

> 24/7

> > in my bedroom. I lost the elastic in everything from fitted sheets to

> pants to

> > pantyhose.

> > Have you experienced this problem in your home?

> > Thanks in advance.

> > Christel

> >

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

> other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

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Yes it will have effects in this sequence and magnitude. First rubber, second

corrode surface of copper and alumium. There is a history of shorts and fire

from alumium contacts in fuse boxes from using alumium 240 wiring coming in to

the household. It will accelerate the breakdown of wood and other fiberous

materials. last it will slowly break down the insulation, new type, on the

electrical wiring. Anything from anybody else?

Dwight Munson

Aranizer

>

>

> >

> >

> > << I put an Aranizer (SS-8) under

> > the house (there's a crawl space, no basement) and it's working nicely.

I

> > also

> > run Aranizers inside the house itself. >>

> > -----

> > Nenah I have a question for you regarding the aranizer. I also run one

> 24/7

> > in my bedroom. I lost the elastic in everything from fitted sheets to

> pants to

> > pantyhose.

> > Have you experienced this problem in your home?

> > Thanks in advance.

> > Christel

> >

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

> other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >

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I put mine in the basement. Does anyone think that it can destroy wiring or

the heater etc. Thanks.

Aranizer

>

>

> >

> >

> > << I put an Aranizer (SS-8) under

> > the house (there's a crawl space, no basement) and it's working nicely.

I

> > also

> > run Aranizers inside the house itself. >>

> > -----

> > Nenah I have a question for you regarding the aranizer. I also run one

> 24/7

> > in my bedroom. I lost the elastic in everything from fitted sheets to

> pants to

> > pantyhose.

> > Have you experienced this problem in your home?

> > Thanks in advance.

> > Christel

> >

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

> other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >

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> own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability

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I put mine in the basement. Does anyone think that it can destroy wiring or

the heater etc. Thanks.

Aranizer

>

>

> >

> >

> > << I put an Aranizer (SS-8) under

> > the house (there's a crawl space, no basement) and it's working nicely.

I

> > also

> > run Aranizers inside the house itself. >>

> > -----

> > Nenah I have a question for you regarding the aranizer. I also run one

> 24/7

> > in my bedroom. I lost the elastic in everything from fitted sheets to

> pants to

> > pantyhose.

> > Have you experienced this problem in your home?

> > Thanks in advance.

> > Christel

> >

> >

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

> other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

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Dear ,

Smoke and mirrors and hype...

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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Subject: Re: Aranizer

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 21:48:35 -0800 (PST)

Saul,

The guy that makes the Aranizer claims that it produces O4, O5, O6, etc. and

that those molecules are more powerful than O3. What's your take on this. I

read the info and it sounds like smoke and mirrors.

Thanks,

Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote:

Dear Nena,

Aran is ozone.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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From: " Nenah Sylver " <nenah@...>

Reply-oxyplus

<oxyplus >

Subject: Re: Aranizer

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:45:30 -0500

Aranizer

> Nenah I have a question for you regarding the aranizer. I also run one

24/7

> in my bedroom. I lost the elastic in everything from fitted sheets to

pants to

> pantyhose.

> Have you experienced this problem in your home?

> Thanks in advance.

> Christel

I've not experienced this...but if there's rubber and similar products

exposed

to the Aran, it would act similarly to ozone.

Nenah

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to

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Dear ,

Smoke and mirrors and hype...

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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Subject: Re: Aranizer

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 21:48:35 -0800 (PST)

Saul,

The guy that makes the Aranizer claims that it produces O4, O5, O6, etc. and

that those molecules are more powerful than O3. What's your take on this. I

read the info and it sounds like smoke and mirrors.

Thanks,

Saul Pressman <spressman@...> wrote:

Dear Nena,

Aran is ozone.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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From: " Nenah Sylver " <nenah@...>

Reply-oxyplus

<oxyplus >

Subject: Re: Aranizer

Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 19:45:30 -0500

Aranizer

> Nenah I have a question for you regarding the aranizer. I also run one

24/7

> in my bedroom. I lost the elastic in everything from fitted sheets to

pants to

> pantyhose.

> Have you experienced this problem in your home?

> Thanks in advance.

> Christel

I've not experienced this...but if there's rubber and similar products

exposed

to the Aran, it would act similarly to ozone.

Nenah

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

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Please do not take this the wrong way, but I had difficulty understanding

your response to a certain degree. Could you please respond with a little

better english that speaks directly to the question asked. For instance,

are you insinuating that it could be a fire hazard because it affects

aluminum and cooper ( you said something about a history which I did not

understand). Thanks again for the response and please respond again.

Aranizer

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > << I put an Aranizer (SS-8) under

> > > the house (there's a crawl space, no basement) and it's working

nicely.

> I

> > > also

> > > run Aranizers inside the house itself. >>

> > > -----

> > > Nenah I have a question for you regarding the aranizer. I also run

one

> > 24/7

> > > in my bedroom. I lost the elastic in everything from fitted sheets

to

> > pants to

> > > pantyhose.

> > > Have you experienced this problem in your home?

> > > Thanks in advance.

> > > Christel

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies,

and

> > other alternative self-help subjects.

> > >

> > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> > >

> > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find

here

> > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

> > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so

at

> your

> > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the

ability

> to

> > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you

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Please do not take this the wrong way, but I had difficulty understanding

your response to a certain degree. Could you please respond with a little

better english that speaks directly to the question asked. For instance,

are you insinuating that it could be a fire hazard because it affects

aluminum and cooper ( you said something about a history which I did not

understand). Thanks again for the response and please respond again.

Aranizer

> >

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > << I put an Aranizer (SS-8) under

> > > the house (there's a crawl space, no basement) and it's working

nicely.

> I

> > > also

> > > run Aranizers inside the house itself. >>

> > > -----

> > > Nenah I have a question for you regarding the aranizer. I also run

one

> > 24/7

> > > in my bedroom. I lost the elastic in everything from fitted sheets

to

> > pants to

> > > pantyhose.

> > > Have you experienced this problem in your home?

> > > Thanks in advance.

> > > Christel

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies,

and

> > other alternative self-help subjects.

> > >

> > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

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I've asked that question twice, but I guess no one has reviewed them

or tried them.

Barth

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---

k> Has anyone used one of these Aranizer air cleaners?

k> My doc recommended for our basement to kill any residual mold.

k> FAIR USE NOTICE:

k>

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According to their Web site www.Aranizer.com this is an ozone

generator. But they claim their ozone, which they call Aranâ„¢, is a

special high level form of ozone and doesn't act like ordinary ozone.

Maybe I'm wrong but the last I checked O3 is O3 is O3, a rose is a

rose is a rose and ducks still look and walk like ducks. Quack!

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

---

> I've asked that question twice, but I guess no one has reviewed them

> or tried them.

>

> Barth

>

> TOXIC MOLD SURVEY: www.presenting.net/sbs/sbssurvey.html

>

> ---

>

> k> Has anyone used one of these Aranizer air cleaners?

>

> k> My doc recommended for our basement to kill any residual mold.

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The smallest SS series would do it for you.

I bought mine several years ago and Aranizer was the best technically

for the most reasonable price.

The lookout is , you don't want a machine that produces nitric oxides.

There is NO chance with the Aranizer.

Price is somwhere around $250 as I recall, and they are exceptionally

well made.

Google for dealers, or I think the site I gave you has a dealer

locater.

Chuck

Bugs don't happen because you do something. Bugs just are.

On 12/21/2007 11:12:49 PM, Ostoich (jostoich@...) wrote:

> Chuck,

> The mold contaminated room isn't very large...maybe 15x20'. How much

> would an Aranizer (which model?) cost to treat a room this size? The

> website link

> didn't list prices.

> thanks.

>

>

> You need a device powerful enough and designed for a room.

> A water ozonater won't

> do it.

> http://www.aranizer.com/index.asp

>

> The SS-Series AranizersTM are ideally suited to use in small to large

> size rooms with mild to strong pollution problems. Perfect for Attics,

> Basements, Bars, Beauty Salons

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> The smallest SS series would do it for you.

> I bought mine several years ago and Aranizer was the best technically

> for the most reasonable price.

> The lookout is , you don't want a machine that produces nitric oxides.

> There is NO chance with the Aranizer.

>

> Price is somwhere around $250 as I recall, and they are exceptionally

> well made.

>

> Google for dealers, or I think the site I gave you has a dealer

> locater.

> Chuck

If Tom Harrelsen is still selling them, then I'd buy from him (can't think of

the name of his site).

I bought my SS8 from him in '99 and I love it. If I'm not treating anything in

particular, then it runs every night in this small room with my computer.

If we get a heavy, prolonged rainstorm with water seepage in the basement, then

down it goes-----just to make sure no mold forms.

Sharon/starshar

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At 03:12 PM 22/12/2007, you wrote:

> > The smallest SS series would do it for you.

> > I bought mine several years ago and Aranizer was the best technically

> > for the most reasonable price.

> > The lookout is , you don't want a machine that produces nitric oxides.

> > There is NO chance with the Aranizer.

> >

> > Price is somwhere around $250 as I recall, and they are exceptionally

> > well made.

> >

> > Google for dealers, or I think the site I gave you has a dealer

> > locater.

> > Chuck

>If Tom Harrelsen is still selling them, then I'd buy from him (can't

>think of the name of his site).

>I bought my SS8 from him in '99 and I love it. If I'm not treating

>anything in particular, then it runs every night in this small room

>with my computer.

>If we get a heavy, prolonged rainstorm with water seepage in the

>basement, then down it goes-----just to make sure no mold forms.

>

>Sharon/starshar

>

>

>

>

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