The Palestinian view of the resent events

[Guest guest]

Sandy, I totally understand your feelings. I have been feeling the exact

same way. This is a time to pull together. When I first saw threads at

Mothering that appeared to be bashing the U.S., I was seeing RED, white and

blue. But I am having to now admit that such discussions have caused me

to think about what role the U.S. might have played in this. I don't

normally follow politics because I get so mad that the U.S. always insists on

giving our money away to other countries and often fighting their battles.

So since I am not knowledgeable, while I don't necessarily believe what I am

reading, I do read it with interest.

Kathleen

In a message dated 9/15/2001 1:57:14 PM Central Daylight Time,

sandym@... writes:

> If this list is going to be used for America and Israel bashing, I would

> like to be removed from this list. Sandy

>

>

> The Palestinian view of the resent events

>

>

> WE have to get the UN out of the USA and into ISRAEL where it belongings.

> This is the fight of the ISRAELIs and the PALESTINIANS. This is not our

> BABY.. This is not our fight...

> From: Vic <angelman@...>

>

> > Forwarded from Alternet.org

> >

> > An Ode to Terror

> >

> > You ask why we cheer.

> > You say we are barbarians for cheering.

> > What you see as terrorism,

> > We see as holding a mirror to your eyes.

> >

> > Your neo-colonialist country and its bloodthirsty ally Israel

> > Have terrorized us for decades.

> > Thousands of us have died,

> > Tens of thousands of innocents,

> > But we see no mobilization of sympathy on your part,

> > No rush to punish those who occupy our lands,

> > Kill our children who throw rocks,

> > Kill those who huddle behind their parents.

> > No giant move to help us win justice.

> > (True, Clinton did some, but ultimately got distracted elsewhere,

> > And your president Bush has simply walked away from the problem

> > of peace, preferring the more simple solution of war.)

> >

>

[Guest guest]

If this list is going to be used for America and Israel bashing, I would

like to be removed from this list. Sandy

The Palestinian view of the resent events

WE have to get the UN out of the USA and into ISRAEL where it belongings.

This is the fight of the ISRAELIs and the PALESTINIANS. This is not our

BABY.. This is not our fight...

From: Vic <angelman@...>

> Forwarded from Alternet.org

>

> An Ode to Terror

>

> You ask why we cheer.

> You say we are barbarians for cheering.

> What you see as terrorism,

> We see as holding a mirror to your eyes.

>

> Your neo-colonialist country and its bloodthirsty ally Israel

> Have terrorized us for decades.

> Thousands of us have died,

> Tens of thousands of innocents,

> But we see no mobilization of sympathy on your part,

> No rush to punish those who occupy our lands,

> Kill our children who throw rocks,

> Kill those who huddle behind their parents.

> No giant move to help us win justice.

> (True, Clinton did some, but ultimately got distracted elsewhere,

> And your president Bush has simply walked away from the problem

> of peace, preferring the more simple solution of war.)

>

> Israel, in the name of its security, has become

> Even more of a vicious, dangerous bully.

> It has the big weapons and tanks and artillery and jets

> (And maybe even an atom bomb).

> And we have a few rifles and lots of stones.

> And so we die, have our homes bulldozed,

> Our villages razed,

> Our economies devastated,

> Our buildings attacked by missiles and set afire,

> Our children slaughtered.

> But your country does little if anything

> Except to politely urge restraint.

>

> Both sides have gone way past restraint.

> As your own State Department has said,

> By " humiliating " us weak Palestinians,

> Israel courts disaster.

> (And, your country, being the puppetmaster,

> Guarantees that the war will come to your homeland.)

>

> That is why we are cheering.

> We can't take any more humiliation.

> We have no big weapons.

> So we will borrow your commercial jetliners

> As our air force.

> We have no bomber planes,

> So we choose the kamikaze route,

> Dive-bombing into your precious buildings,

> Into your minds,

> Into your hearts.

>

> Do you get it now?

>

> There is no sanctuary.

> The Atlantic and Pacific cannot save you.

> We are everywhere and nowhere.

> We have untold martyrs in training, willing

> To sacrifice their lives for the just cause.

> Allah protects the weak,

> And we are weak in the conventional sense.

> But we are strong in faith.

>

> Faith that ultimately your citizens and government

> Will decide that, no matter how much you dislike us,

> You will fear our craziness more,

> Will fear our willingness to take the war

> And chaos,

> To your shores.

> Then, you will demand a change in policy.

>

> We would prefer to have all of our historic Palestine back,

> But even we can see that will probably never happen.

> But a just peace must be between two equals.

> The current Israeli government is awash in blood

> And will never have the courage (or the sense) to make peace.

> But through our tactics and will,

> We can change the political situation

> To force a just solution,

> With a large Palestinian homeland,

> And a somewhat smaller Israel than currently exists

> To brutalize us.

>

> Do you get it now?

>

> You and your president pretend you can ignore us.

> By not engaging,

> You put your heads in the desert sands

> And hope we'll just blow away.

>

> But it is you who will be blown away.

> Airplane by airplane.

> Building by building.

>

> Do you get it now?

> Do we have your attention?

[Guest guest]

WE have to get the UN out of the USA and into ISRAEL where it belongings.

This is the fight of the ISRAELIs and the PALESTINIANS. This is not our

BABY.. This is not our fight...

From: Vic <angelman@...>

> Forwarded from Alternet.org

>

> An Ode to Terror

>

> You ask why we cheer.

> You say we are barbarians for cheering.

> What you see as terrorism,

> We see as holding a mirror to your eyes.

>

> Your neo-colonialist country and its bloodthirsty ally Israel

> Have terrorized us for decades.

> Thousands of us have died,

> Tens of thousands of innocents,

> But we see no mobilization of sympathy on your part,

> No rush to punish those who occupy our lands,

> Kill our children who throw rocks,

> Kill those who huddle behind their parents.

> No giant move to help us win justice.

> (True, Clinton did some, but ultimately got distracted elsewhere,

> And your president Bush has simply walked away from the problem

> of peace, preferring the more simple solution of war.)

>

> Israel, in the name of its security, has become

> Even more of a vicious, dangerous bully.

> It has the big weapons and tanks and artillery and jets

> (And maybe even an atom bomb).

> And we have a few rifles and lots of stones.

> And so we die, have our homes bulldozed,

> Our villages razed,

> Our economies devastated,

> Our buildings attacked by missiles and set afire,

> Our children slaughtered.

> But your country does little if anything

> Except to politely urge restraint.

>

> Both sides have gone way past restraint.

> As your own State Department has said,

> By " humiliating " us weak Palestinians,

> Israel courts disaster.

> (And, your country, being the puppetmaster,

> Guarantees that the war will come to your homeland.)

>

> That is why we are cheering.

> We can't take any more humiliation.

> We have no big weapons.

> So we will borrow your commercial jetliners

> As our air force.

> We have no bomber planes,

> So we choose the kamikaze route,

> Dive-bombing into your precious buildings,

> Into your minds,

> Into your hearts.

>

> Do you get it now?

>

> There is no sanctuary.

> The Atlantic and Pacific cannot save you.

> We are everywhere and nowhere.

> We have untold martyrs in training, willing

> To sacrifice their lives for the just cause.

> Allah protects the weak,

> And we are weak in the conventional sense.

> But we are strong in faith.

>

> Faith that ultimately your citizens and government

> Will decide that, no matter how much you dislike us,

> You will fear our craziness more,

> Will fear our willingness to take the war

> And chaos,

> To your shores.

> Then, you will demand a change in policy.

>

> We would prefer to have all of our historic Palestine back,

> But even we can see that will probably never happen.

> But a just peace must be between two equals.

> The current Israeli government is awash in blood

> And will never have the courage (or the sense) to make peace.

> But through our tactics and will,

> We can change the political situation

> To force a just solution,

> With a large Palestinian homeland,

> And a somewhat smaller Israel than currently exists

> To brutalize us.

>

> Do you get it now?

>

> You and your president pretend you can ignore us.

> By not engaging,

> You put your heads in the desert sands

> And hope we'll just blow away.

>

> But it is you who will be blown away.

> Airplane by airplane.

> Building by building.

>

> Do you get it now?

> Do we have your attention?

[Guest guest]

I second that. This is ridiculous and has NOTHING to do with vaccinations.

Goldmeer

The Palestinian view of the resent events

WE have to get the UN out of the USA and into ISRAEL where it belongings.

This is the fight of the ISRAELIs and the PALESTINIANS. This is not our

BABY.. This is not our fight...

From: Vic <angelman@...>

> Forwarded from Alternet.org

>

> An Ode to Terror

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't consider it bashing...I thot it was another viewpoint. As Americans we

are bashing another country and don't we bash all who disagree with our way of

thinking in all areas to some extent? I do think it would appropriate to use

links instead of posting the whole info so those who wish may view and those who

don't can delete...this option is available always and I do agree any type of

this info, not directly related to health , should be designated OT and links

used...I don't know how links can be used for forwarding personal emails with a

different perspective,tho. I am an American and must not remain blind to the

atrocoties we have committed and refuse to take responsibility for...I still

wouldn't want to live anywhere else...Laurie

Subject: RE: The Palestinian view of the recent events

[Guest guest]

You don't consider

> Israel, in the name of its security, has become

> Even more of a vicious, dangerous bully.

> It has the big weapons and tanks and artillery and jets

> (And maybe even an atom bomb).

to be bashing??????

ly, the idea that the Palestinians are innocent while the big bad

Israelies are victimizing them is the only viewpoint that the major media

has allowed to be seen for quite some time, so I hardly believe it needs

further airing on a vaccination list.

Goldmeer

RE: The Palestinian view of the recent events

[Guest guest]

PHYLLIS said -

" An Ode to Terror " ............

Woah.................

Sue

Ruby-2

[Guest guest]

I hope we aren't all forced into the anthrax vaccine to " protect " us when

the war comes!!!

Phyllis wrote:

>WE have to get the UN out of the USA and into ISRAEL where it belongings.

>This is the fight of the ISRAELIs and the PALESTINIANS. This is not our

>BABY.. This is not our fight...

>From: Vic <angelman@...>

>

>> Forwarded from Alternet.org

>>

>> An Ode to Terror

>>

>> You ask why we cheer.

>> You say we are barbarians for cheering.

>> What you see as terrorism,

>> We see as holding a mirror to your eyes.

>>

>> Your neo-colonialist country and its bloodthirsty ally Israel

>> Have terrorized us for decades.

>> Thousands of us have died,

>> Tens of thousands of innocents,

>> But we see no mobilization of sympathy on your part,

>> No rush to punish those who occupy our lands,

>> Kill our children who throw rocks,

>> Kill those who huddle behind their parents.

>> No giant move to help us win justice.

>> (True, Clinton did some, but ultimately got distracted elsewhere,

>> And your president Bush has simply walked away from the problem

>> of peace, preferring the more simple solution of war.)

>>

>> Israel, in the name of its security, has become

>> Even more of a vicious, dangerous bully.

>> It has the big weapons and tanks and artillery and jets

>> (And maybe even an atom bomb).

>> And we have a few rifles and lots of stones.

>> And so we die, have our homes bulldozed,

>> Our villages razed,

>> Our economies devastated,

>> Our buildings attacked by missiles and set afire,

>> Our children slaughtered.

>> But your country does little if anything

>> Except to politely urge restraint.

>>

>> Both sides have gone way past restraint.

>> As your own State Department has said,

>> By " humiliating " us weak Palestinians,

>> Israel courts disaster.

>> (And, your country, being the puppetmaster,

>> Guarantees that the war will come to your homeland.)

>>

>> That is why we are cheering.

>> We can't take any more humiliation.

>> We have no big weapons.

>> So we will borrow your commercial jetliners

>> As our air force.

>> We have no bomber planes,

>> So we choose the kamikaze route,

>> Dive-bombing into your precious buildings,

>> Into your minds,

>> Into your hearts.

>>

>> Do you get it now?

>>

>> There is no sanctuary.

>> The Atlantic and Pacific cannot save you.

>> We are everywhere and nowhere.

>> We have untold martyrs in training, willing

>> To sacrifice their lives for the just cause.

>> Allah protects the weak,

>> And we are weak in the conventional sense.

>> But we are strong in faith.

>>

>> Faith that ultimately your citizens and government

>> Will decide that, no matter how much you dislike us,

>> You will fear our craziness more,

>> Will fear our willingness to take the war

>> And chaos,

>> To your shores.

>> Then, you will demand a change in policy.

>>

>> We would prefer to have all of our historic Palestine back,

>> But even we can see that will probably never happen.

>> But a just peace must be between two equals.

>> The current Israeli government is awash in blood

>> And will never have the courage (or the sense) to make peace.

>> But through our tactics and will,

>> We can change the political situation

>> To force a just solution,

>> With a large Palestinian homeland,

>> And a somewhat smaller Israel than currently exists

>> To brutalize us.

>>

>> Do you get it now?

>>

>> You and your president pretend you can ignore us.

>> By not engaging,

>> You put your heads in the desert sands

>> And hope we'll just blow away.

>>

>> But it is you who will be blown away.

>> Airplane by airplane.

>> Building by building.

>>

>> Do you get it now?

>> Do we have your attention?

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