Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 In a message dated 8/30/2001 5:45:36 PM Central Daylight Time, xtina@... writes: > ...thank you to those who sent me information about vit k. I have > another question....i was inquiring about the oral form of vit > k....they told me that the vit k given orally is the same stuff that > they inject...is this true? They said that it is just opened up and > given orally rather than injected....this makes no sense to me. Im > still looking into it. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 , that is interesting. I have never heard that before. And you're right it doesn't make sense, does it? It left me wondering if the person telling you this is perhaps trying to convince you to have the injection. You know, by making the argument that it's all the same stuff so you might as well have the injection. By the way, who gave you this " it's all the same " information? Kathleen In a message dated 8/30/2001 5:45:36 PM Central Daylight Time, xtina@... writes: > ...thank you to those who sent me information about vit k. I have > another question....i was inquiring about the oral form of vit > k....they told me that the vit k given orally is the same stuff that > they inject...is this true? They said that it is just opened up and > given orally rather than injected....this makes no sense to me. Im > still looking into it. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 ....thank you to those who sent me information about vit k. I have another question....i was inquiring about the oral form of vit k....they told me that the vit k given orally is the same stuff that they inject...is this true? They said that it is just opened up and given orally rather than injected....this makes no sense to me. Im still looking into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 I asked the charge nurse at the hospital today..and she discussed it with pharmacy....i actually dont think that they are lieing...i think if anything it is misinformation on their part...ignorance if you will since mine is the first request that they have encountered. They may not really know if anything else is availlable. She gave me some other crap from the pharmacist that makes me think this...and yes some of that information i think was to " convince " me to agree to the shot. Im wondering if it is even availlable in canada.... christina > , that is interesting. I have never heard that before. And you're > right it doesn't make sense, does it? It left me wondering if the person > telling you this is perhaps trying to convince you to have the injection. > You know, by making the argument that it's all the same stuff so you might as > well have the injection. By the way, who gave you this " it's all the same " > information? > > Kathleen > > In a message dated 8/30/2001 5:45:36 PM Central Daylight Time, xtina@h... > writes: > > > > ...thank you to those who sent me information about vit k. I have > > another question....i was inquiring about the oral form of vit > > k....they told me that the vit k given orally is the same stuff that > > they inject...is this true? They said that it is just opened up and > > given orally rather than injected....this makes no sense to me. Im > > still looking into it. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 That is the only thing I have ever read, that's it's the same stuff. I have never been able to locate an actual oral vit K. S. HolisticMomma@... wrote: > , that is interesting. I have never heard that before. And > you're > right it doesn't make sense, does it? It left me wondering if the > person > telling you this is perhaps trying to convince you to have the > injection. > You know, by making the argument that it's all the same stuff so you > might as > well have the injection. By the way, who gave you this " it's all the > same " > information? > > Kathleen > > In a message dated 8/30/2001 5:45:36 PM Central Daylight Time, > xtina@... > writes: > > > > ...thank you to those who sent me information about vit k. I have > > another question....i was inquiring about the oral form of vit > > k....they told me that the vit k given orally is the same stuff that > > > they inject...is this true? They said that it is just opened up and > > > given orally rather than injected....this makes no sense to me. Im > > still looking into it. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 The following is a Question and Answer column regarding Vitamin K that Randy Neustaedter wrote for Healthy Child newsletter. He tells where to get oral vitamin K at the end. Ask Dr. Neustaedter Randall Neustaedter, OMD, LAc. I am pregnant and my pediatrician says my new baby will need a vitamin K shot. Is this necessary? Vitamin K An injection of vitamin K (1.0 mg) is routinely administered to all newborns to prevent unexpected bleeding caused by low levels of vitamin K-dependent blood clotting factors. Vitamin K is present in green vegetables, vegetable oils, and dairy products, but intake or supplementation during pregnancy does not ensure prevention of vitamin K deficiency in newborns. The syndrome of vitamin K deficiency bleeding occurs in approximately 1 in 10,000 babies. Hemorrhagic disease that occurs from week 2-12 of life is the most dangerous form. Half of these affected babies suffer sudden bleeding into the brain, and 20 percent of affected babies die. Studies have shown that a single injection or oral dose of vitamin K at birth results in adequate coagulation status and vitamin K levels for up to three months following birth. Injected vitamin K ran into a problem when researchers in 1990 noted an increased incidence of childhood cancer in children given vitamin K injections at birth. Specifically, they found that injected vitamin K doubled the incidence of leukemia in children less than ten years of age. A subsequent study in 1992 revealed the same association between injected vitamin K and cancer, but no such association with oral vitamin K. These researchers recommended exclusive use of oral vitamin K. Since vitamin K given within 12 hours of birth can reduce the risk of vitamin K deficiency bleeding, it seems prudent to give an oral dose of 1-2 mg. Injections of vitamin K are painful and can cause bruising at the injection site. There may also be an increased risk of cancer associated with vitamin K injections. Mothers should eat foods with high vitamin K content during pregnancy (green vegetables and dairy products) because vitamin K is transferred to the fetus across the placenta. Pregnant women can also take alfalfa tablets during pregnancy, a good source of vitamin K. It is also advisable to give 1-2 mg. of vitamin K to breastfed infants at ages one to two weeks and at four weeks. Formulas are already supplemented with vitamin K. Alternatively, nursing mothers can take a daily dose of vitamin K during the first three months following birth. If nursing mothers take a daily 5 mg. vitamin K supplement their babies’ vitamin K status improves through the first 12 weeks of life. Although oral vitamin K is not licensed for use as a drug by the FDA, drops for oral administration are available. Typically, one drop contains 2 mg. of vitamin K. Contact a midwife in your area, or a birthing supply company (such as birthwithlove.com), or Scientific Botanicals (206 527-5521) where your health care provider can order liquid vitamin K directly. The information provided here is intended for educational purposes only and is not intended to be prescriptive, or to replace the care of a qualified health care professional in the diagnosis and treatment of illness. To subscribe to this free e-mail newsletter: http://www.healthychild.com/subscribe.htm Copyright 2001 Future Generations. All rights reserved. This newsletter may be copied in full for non-profit use. Copyright and subscription information must be included. Please feel free to forward this newsletter to your friends and family. Personal endorsements of the newsletter are greatly appreciated. If any other use is desired, written permission is required. Jane Sheppard Future Generations Publisher of Healthy Child Newsletter Vital Information to Protect Your Children's Health http://www.healthychild.com > Message: 15 > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:57:07 -0000 > From: " " <xtina@...> > Subject: Re: ...more vit k > > I asked the charge nurse at the hospital today..and she discussed it > with pharmacy....i actually dont think that they are lieing...i think > if anything it is misinformation on their part...ignorance if you will > since mine is the first request that they have encountered. They may > not really know if anything else is availlable. She gave me some > other crap from the pharmacist that makes me think this...and yes some > of that information i think was to " convince " me to agree to the shot. > Im wondering if it is even availlable in canada.... > christina > > > > > , that is interesting. I have never heard that before. > And you're > > right it doesn't make sense, does it? It left me wondering if the > person > > telling you this is perhaps trying to convince you to have the > injection. > > You know, by making the argument that it's all the same stuff so you > might as > > well have the injection. By the way, who gave you this " it's all > the same " > > information? > > > > Kathleen > > > > In a message dated 8/30/2001 5:45:36 PM Central Daylight Time, > xtina@h... > > writes: > > > > > > > ...thank you to those who sent me information about vit k. I have > > > another question....i was inquiring about the oral form of vit > > > k....they told me that the vit k given orally is the same stuff > that > > > they inject...is this true? They said that it is just opened up > and > > > given orally rather than injected....this makes no sense to me. > Im > > > still looking into it. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2001 Report Share Posted August 31, 2001 I am definitely not advocating the use of this medication, either way. But, I can add a bit on injectable medication being also used as oral doses. I am not totally sure about the vit K specifically, however, I can certainly say for example that the drug propanolol is an injectable cardiac drug that is used as an oral dose. I have seen it given to children with cardiac problems orally. So, the idea of using the injectable vit K is not too far fetched. On the job I have access to my hospitals pharmacy. I will try to pull a package insert to see if I can verify this. Robin, RN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2001 Report Share Posted September 1, 2001 Robin, thanks for your info. I think what bothers me about the Vitamin K thing is the fact that there are other ingredients besides Vitamin K in the injection. I know I've seen an ingredient list in a couple different places and it ain't pretty. So to my way of thinking, it is a complete fabrication to say that they are the same thing. Kathleen In a message dated 9/1/2001 1:18:31 AM Central Daylight Time, MeggyEm@... writes: > I am definitely not advocating the use of this medication, either way. But, > I can add a bit on injectable medication being also used as oral doses. I > am > not totally sure about the vit K specifically, however, I can certainly say > for example that the drug propanolol is an injectable cardiac drug that is > used as an oral dose. I have seen it given to children with cardiac > problems > orally. So, the idea of using the injectable vit K is not too far fetched. > > On the job I have access to my hospitals pharmacy. I will try to pull a > package insert to see if I can verify this. > Robin, RN > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2001 Report Share Posted September 2, 2001 Ohh..thanks christina - In Vaccinations@y..., MeggyEm@A... wrote: > I am definitely not advocating the use of this medication, either way. But, > I can add a bit on injectable medication being also used as oral doses. I am > not totally sure about the vit K specifically, however, I can certainly say > for example that the drug propanolol is an injectable cardiac drug that is > used as an oral dose. I have seen it given to children with cardiac problems > orally. So, the idea of using the injectable vit K is not too far fetched. > On the job I have access to my hospitals pharmacy. I will try to pull a > package insert to see if I can verify this. > Robin, RN > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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