children's vitamins---Please none....!!!!

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I've heard the same thing about the nutrients in the plants being depleted.

However, my brother, who switched to a mostly raw fruit & vegetable diet within

the last several months, gets all of his produce at the grocery store and swears

he will never go back to eating the way he was before.

He was having bad pains in is back and side at night and couldn't hardly sleep,

these are gone and he now sleeps like a baby. He had regular back problems, now

gone. His knees would hurt so bad that if he got down he found it hard to get

back up (he's only 32, and owns an autobody shop so he stands on cement floors

all day) he has NO pains in his knees at all now. He has had a " stuffy nose "

ever since I can remember and couldn't mow the grass without being miserable for

a week, he is now totally clear of all allergies and mows for the first time in

his life without so much as a sniffle. And he swears he has more energy now than

he's ever had in his life. Our whole family and extended family is convinced

because we have seen his improvements ourselves. So I know that if we at least

try to eat better (more raw fruits, veggies, and juices - especially carrot

juice) we can improve our health drastically.

We have our baby on a mostly raw diet at 14 months and he is doing great. We are

also slowly switching to the diet and want the whole family to enjoy healthful

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Re: children's vitamins---Please none....!!!!

And actually, over the years I have read from multiple sources that our

agricultural products are not as health-giving as they were in years ago.

Something about the ground being depleted and the pesticides that are used

can also bind up certain nutrients which supposedly makes them unavailable to

the body. Bummer. So tis the plants themselves that need a vitamin

supplement (i.e. REAL fertilizer, not that chemical crapola and better

farming practices).

Kathleen for President. I'll outlaw all pesticide use in farming!

Kathleen

So anyway, my point was that even when we eat healthy foods, we may not be

getting all the nutrients that we think we are. Bummer.

In a message dated 7/14/2001 8:40:50 PM Central Daylight Time,

helminger@... writes:

> In theory this is true.... but I have a very picky, minimal veggie

> eating almost 3 year old who used to eat them like a champ. He won't

> touch many of the things he used to very happily eat. He'll get a multi

> and a green food supplement until his diet improves - I'm not gonna

> force feed him.

> S.

>

> Chevy974@... wrote:

>

> > the idea is to start them young if you start them on it they no know

> > no

> > different. i am looking for a good pancake recipe not from the box of

> > aunt

> > jemima. he is picky and loves pancakes and PB and J lol.

> > any ideas

> > Amy

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

A parent and child relationship is different. Children must have respect

for their parents. They should be able to do things simply becasue you tell

them too. They should trust that your knowledge and wisdom is good enough

to make a decision that will benefit them. A lot of the things we do with

our children doesn't manifest until they are older and than we start to see

the why's. When you are doing things for prizes instead of true emotional

and gratifying awards such as good health, you miss the point. The child is

not learning the real meaning behind their actions. I know of kids who were

raised this way and it eventually backfires. As they get old enough to

manipulate their enviornment without your help, than what do they need your

rewards for? If they know the real reason, they are more likely to do the

right thing. There are times where your kids will need to just

unquestioninly do what you say, and if they are used to talking back and

expecting something, they will not do it. It is easier to coax them with

rewards, but the long term results are beter if you do not.

My mother never ever did that. Me and my husband were talking about the

whole picky eating thing. He said that his mother did not give him a

choice. She actually made him sit there until he ate it. I believe he said

he actually fell asleep at the table one time. But of course you cannot do

that with really little ones!

>From: " LM K " <lkeva@...>

>Reply-Vaccinations

>Vaccinations

>Subject: Re: Re: children's vitamins---Please none....!!!!

>Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 13:38:01 -0400

>

>But it work for adults = you get paid if you show up for work and do your

>job....I see nothing wrong with a system of rewards....be it a pat on the

>back, a " good job kiddo " or what have you.

>

>

> >From: " Lashanna Small " <lashannasmall@...>

> >Reply-Vaccinations

> >Vaccinations

> >Subject: Re: Re: children's vitamins---Please none....!!!!

> >Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:55:21 -0000

> >

> >

> >Coaxing your kids to do something by using rewards is really

>controversial.

> >Most people say not to do that.

> >

> > >From: " LM K " <lkeva@...>

> > >Reply-Vaccinations

> > >Vaccinations

> > >Subject: Re: Re: children's vitamins---Please

>none....!!!!

> > >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:44:41 -0400

> > >

> > >I can vouch for the " give no other options " method. Tonight, after

> >months

> > >and months of trying, (2 1/2 yrs) finally ate his peas. I told

>him

> > >that we had peaches for dessert, but he had to eat his peas

>first...and,

> >he

> > >actually ate them!!! Yeah!!!

> > >

> > >-, OH

> > >

> > >

> > > >From: " CareerPlan, Inc. " <Resume@...>

> > > >Reply-Vaccinations

> > > ><Vaccinations >

> > > >Subject: Re: Re: children's vitamins---Please

> >none....!!!!

> > > >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:43:40 -0700

> > > >

> > > >I don't know how old he is, but if you start making changes for the

> > >better,

> > > >you need to stick to it. He may have to go hungry for a meal, but he

> > >won't

> > > >dry up and blow away. I'd stick with it until he decides to give it a

> >try

> > > >(give no other options). Believe me, he will try it if he's hungry.

> > > >

> > > >I have three step children that come over every other weekend and we

> >get

> > > >out a big tray and put all kinds of fresh raw veggies and dip on it

>for

> > > >them. They love it! We use the baby carrots, broccoli, zucchini, etc.

> >and

> > > >they can't seem to get enough and they range in age from 14 to 7. We

> >also

> > > >fix all healthy meals while they are visiting. Sometimes we make

> > >haystacks

> > > >or burritos like this:

> > > >

> > > >HAYSTACKS:

> > > >Put a layer of chips (Doritos, plain tortillas, or fritos) on a

>plate.

> > > >Open a can of Vegetarian Baked Beans and spread it on the chips

> > > >Spread some shredded mozzarella or cheddar cheese on the beans

> > > >Put it in the microwave to melt the cheese (about 1 to 1.5 minutes)

> > > >Top with fresh veggies - raw spinach, tomatoes, onions, green

>peppers,

> > > >zucchini

> > > >You can even top that off with ranch dressing or cottage cheese on

>top.

> > > >This is an all time favorite that is quick, healthy, and delicious at

> >our

> > > >house.

> > > >

> > > >BURRITOS:

> > > >Buy soft shells

> > > >Open a can of Vegetarian Baked Beans and drain the juice

> > > >Cook the beans in a bowl in the microwave for a couple of minutes

> > > >Take a fork and mash the beans

> > > >Use the beans on the shells and also fill with cheese and veggies

>(like

> > > >those listed above) also use ranch dressing inside.

> > > >This one is even a bigger smash at our house.

> > > >

> > > >Learn to be creative and stick to your guns. Your kids will be much

> > >better

> > > >off if you are the boss and decide that they eat what is best for

>them.

> > > >Don't let them get picky, and certainly don't fix special foods just

> >for

> > > >them. My nephew was raised just eating what he liked. His mom didn't

> >like

> > >a

> > > >lot of things growing up and wouldn't feed them to her son. He

> > >practically

> > > >lives on cheese, summer sausage, and pizza. Needless to say he is

>huge,

> > > >he's 14 and is having chest pains. I've heard that a lot of young

>kids

> > >are

> > > >having heart attacks and strokes. I'd rather fight them at the table

> >than

> > > >have to bury them later. Sorry to sound so morbid, but I am a big

> > >believer

> > > >in eating to live, not living to eat.

> > > >

> > > >Don't forget to join our e-list on discussions for both babies and

> > > >children's diets at: rawfoodbabies

> > > >

> > > > Parish

> > > > Re: children's vitamins---Please

> >none....!!!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ...for me the problem is convincing my child to eat any veggies or

> > > > fruit. I can sometimes get broccali into him and watermelon...but

> > > > nothing else. He is pretty persistent and wont really eat " green "

> > > > foods....nor " green " drinks. I have been thinking about vitamins

> >also

> > > > out of desperation.

> > > > christina

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > - In Vaccinations@y..., " Phyllis " <georgic@s...> wrote:

> > > > > Please do not feed your children multi-vitamin supplements

> > > > especially

> > > > > Poly-vi-sol. Feed your children Food, wholesome, organic

>fruits

> > > > and veg or

> > > > > all sorts. Stop feeding them dairy and cheese and yogurt. Feed

> > > > them green

> > > > > beans and peas, carrots, broccoli, kale, asparagus, salads and

> >whole

> > > > grain

> > > > > brown rices and amaranth cereals and flour to make muffins and

> > > > pancakes,

> > > > > Flax seed oil and powders in their green drinks... Get a JUICER

> >and

> > > > make

> > > > > whole fresh juices. Spend your $$$$$$ on things that will last

> >to

> > > > keep

> > > > > yourselves healthy and strong for over 120 years...

> > > > >

> > > > > Vitamin supplements are components of food without the other

> > > > portions of the

> > > > > food the balances the nutrients in the foods... There are too

> >many

> > > > > indigestible and not vegetable sources of pills out there...

> >Don't

> > > > get your

> > > > > kids started on believing that pills are the way to feed their

> > > > bodies...

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > From: LM K <lkeva@h...>

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > >

> > > > > need a recommendation for a multi-vitamin for my 2 1/2 year

>old.

> > > > I'm

> > > > > > presently using Poly-vi-sol and know there must be something

> > > > better.

> > > > > > Anyone???

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -OH

> > > > > >

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I was buying them at Publix Supermarkets for $5.99, but the price just bumped up

to $6.99. The price seems to bounce back and forth every few months.

I don't know why they are cheaper at a regular supermarket. The health food

stores here carry them for $11-$13 for the same size box.

Re: children's vitamins---Please none....!!!!

where do you get them for that price? they cost alot more here...Kathy

: Are you talking about Yummi Bears? We buy the whole foods variety, not

the multivitamin variety. It sounded good and my kids love them but I've

wondered if they are a waste of money. A box of 60 is $6.

: