Subject: Re: Makes you think......(Elaine)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/14/2001 5:56:16 AM Central Standard Time,

breedeveld@... writes:

> And sorry if there are mistakes in this message.

>

> Rob

>

>

Hey Rob,

My native language is English and I can't spell and my typos are awful. (and

I could name someone else to but she'll ahve to volenteer her own name for

the list of awful spelling and large numbers of typos, hehehe)

While Elaine may like tips on Dutch I'll pass I think, I once looked at my

Dad's college Norwegian book, ugh. I think he took that because his Dad and

Grandparents actually spoke it some when he was growing up so he figured it

was maybe easier, who knows? Looked really hard to me.

Joy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/14/01 11:34:32 AM Central Standard Time,

JTesmer799@... writes:

> Hey Rob,

> My native language is English and I can't spell and my typos are awful. (

> and

> I could name someone else to but she'll ahve to volenteer her own name for

> the list of awful spelling and large numbers of typos, hehehe)

OK Joy now I know you are talking about me lololol yep I'm " typing impaired "

moms says I'm a bit dyslexic on the puter lolol But like Susie mentioned in

Chat .......I type like a DR writes Heehee so just call me DR on the

Keyboard

Kathy mom to Sara 9..........oooh my cursive is worse than my typing too

lololol

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/14/2001 11:50:40 AM Central Standard Time, B4alltoday

writes:

> OK Joy now I know you are talking about me lololol yep I'm " typing impaired "

> moms says I'm a bit dyslexic on the puter lolol But like Susie mentioned in

> Chat .......I type like a DR writes Heehee so just call me DR on the

> Keyboard

>

> Kathy mom to Sara 9..........oooh my cursive is worse than my typing too

>

LOL, yes Dr. , hehe well I didn't name you.:-)

I see kent isn't the only one getting multiple posts sent to the list. I

know I only sent it once. I guess I shouldn't have teased him about getting

his post 3 times. :-o So maybe it's not his email program but or

something. LOL.

Joy

[Guest guest]

Hey Joy,

thanks, your a sweetheart.;-))

I almost didn't dare to write anymore. You ware just in time. I

already was planning to get my schoolfunds back. I was ready to trash

all those English lessons from 9 years till 18 years old.

Are you sure you dont want to learn Dutch?

I'll teach Tina, she wants to come to Amsterdam anyway

yours forever :0))

Rob

> Hey Rob,

> My native language is English and I can't spell and my typos are

awful. (and

> I could name someone else to but she'll ahve to volenteer her own

name for

> the list of awful spelling and large numbers of typos, hehehe)

>

> While Elaine may like tips on Dutch I'll pass I think, I once

looked at my

> Dad's college Norwegian book, ugh. I think he took that because

his Dad and

> Grandparents actually spoke it some when he was growing up so he

figured it

> was maybe easier, who knows? Looked really hard to me.

>

> Joy

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I always say I can spell, l just can't type worth a darn. Had to

cheat to pass it in high school. A's in chemistry which I never understood,

a D in typing. Go figure.

Jessie

[Guest guest]

Just a habit guys. I correct student's grammar and spelling for a living.

Elaine

Re: Makes you think......(Elaine)

> In a message dated 3/14/01 11:34:32 AM Central Standard Time,

> JTesmer799@... writes:

>

> > Hey Rob,

> > My native language is English and I can't spell and my typos are awful.

(

> > and

> > I could name someone else to but she'll ahve to volenteer her own name

for

> > the list of awful spelling and large numbers of typos, hehehe)

>

> OK Joy now I know you are talking about me lololol yep I'm " typing

impaired "

> moms says I'm a bit dyslexic on the puter lolol But like Susie mentioned

in

> Chat .......I type like a DR writes Heehee so just call me DR on the

> Keyboard

>

> Kathy mom to Sara 9..........oooh my cursive is worse than my typing too

> lololol

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/15/2001 1:31:23 AM Central Standard Time,

Bonoratoe001@... writes:

> Just a habit guys. I correct student's grammar and spelling for a living.

> Elaine

>

So you going to have Rob teach you Dutch ?(was that what it was? lol sorry

can't remember for sure)

Joy

[Guest guest]

Hi Elaine,

Don't be sorry, I wasn't offended by it. ;-))

I know the habit, have it here to in correcting peoples Dutch. I call it an

profesional devinciancy (if thats how you write it LOL). Others just call me

'wise guy'.

Thanks for the long message, I always like it when people tell me how their

way of thinking is and why they believe the way they do.

I hope you don't mind if I do the same, maybe it makes you and others

understand why I reacted the way I did to the first message on this subject.

I want to point out that this is MY view on things.

Becoming a certain age, I started to think about religion and what it ment

to me. After studying different believes, looking at why people believed the

way they do and where it al originated, I came to the conclusion that I

couldn't believe in one religion. It just didn't fit. What I discovered that

people mainly believe because they want to give a meaning to live, it's to

scary to live without a reason as a thinking being. I also discovered that

most religions are there to give a direction how to live your live right. I

myself think what we already know whats right and wrong in our hearts. It's

called a consience.

Sadly enough it all went wrong with the good intentions of the visionares

who tried to guide us through live, like Jesus and Mohammed. People started

to bend the Bible and Koran and other holy scriptures in the way they could

use it the best. Started to forget that those scriptures ware told and

written in a time where people talked in an other way. The storytellers used

exsaturation and told in a way that the listeners would be intriged, would

visionalise it.

And forgot the main message in them all, love and respect your fellow human

being. Help eachother. Be good to eachother.

And so the people started to tell others they should believe in their way,

should follow their way, the way how they read their book. Should live and

think how they wanted to have them think. And wars began, hatred, bigatry,

etc.

And this is the part why I got upset. Because there's no praying in your

schools, kids and society get violent?

I never pray, so that means I am bad? I hurt people? Well everyone who knows

me, know that I won't hurt a mouse.

And the saddest part is that those words often are written and believed by

people who , for example, support death penalties (if that isn't violent). I

don't want to say that everyone does, because I know there are a lot that

don't.

I believe that God isn't some appearance outside of us, I believe there's a

God within everyone of us and when you do right, the divineness shines

through a little.

And above this all, I just can't believe that one group, Christians, Jews,

Muslims or other, etc. is right and the others are wrong. And if you believe

in the one, you can respect the other but you have to think that they are

wrong, are in the wrong religion. And although I am a little arrogant, this

is a bit to much. There are a lot more things I believe in, some through

personal experience, like reincarnation. But that goes to far to spread that

out.

So that was a long story.

By the way, where is the bathroom in dutch is 'waar is het toilet' .

And the stay-at-home dad is a choice. First because I wanted to and my wife

wanted an career. Second, financially her position is better. And I love

every minute of it.

Rob

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----

Van: & Elaine Bonorato [mailto:Bonoratoe001@...]

Verzonden: donderdag 15 maart 2001 3:49

Aan: breedeveld

Onderwerp: Re: RE: Subject: Re: Makes you

think......(Elaine)

Sorry about the English lesson Rob. It is habit. I teach at a school for

Medical Assistants (post secondary) and most of my students have had pidgin

English (here in Hawaii) or English is their second language. I speak a

tiny bit of French, Spanish, and German. I can ask where the bathroom

(water closet) is in every one of those languages and I know what I'm

eating:)))

I do not use corporal punishment. I have found that grounding, taking

away privileges and taking the car keys tends to work. I also explain my

expectations very carefully to my kids.

A gun will never enter my home. I don't like them and I would be afraid

that someone (probably me) who shoot themselves. My husband and I disagree

on gun control to some extent but he would rather give in on this point than

have to listen to my objections to it forever ad nauseum. LOL. I know your

English must be better than my Dutch. I know NO words in your language, not

even " Where is the bathroom? "

I did want to make the point that your note sounding very ethnocentric.

I am proud of my country as I know you are yours. We have a lot to offer.

That's why we have to sometimes keep people out. Have a good afternoon. I

have to go to choir practice. I am Roman Catholic but would never push my

beliefs on others. I wouldn't print a letter discussing them on the list.

I also love diversity and have friends of every faith. The only time I tend

to be intolerant is when people use their faith to hurt others (as you

feel). I object to the subjugation of women that some religions Deify.

I also think it is so incredible that you are a stay at home Dad. More

power to you.

Elaine