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Hello Dora,

I'm new to this list but have just today basically been given my first order

to take the shot. I told my command over a year ago that I was not going to

take the shot. I may well need the form you are talking about. Please email

it to me directly or mail to PH2 Troy Karr, NSTCP (Code 511), 1130 Bole St.,

Pearl Harbor, HI 96860.

Thanks!!! Hello one and all on the list as well....

Troy

>From: Dora gutierrez <dgutie10@...>

>Reply-onelist

>onelist

>Subject: Appeal Form

>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:13:01 -0700 (PDT)

>

>From: Dora gutierrez <dgutie10@...>

>

>Does anyone else need a copy of the discharge appeal form? I mailed

>and faxed all the requests I received....did everyone receive theirs?

>

>Dora Gutierrez

>210-690-9512

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Hello Dora,

I'm new to this list but have just today basically been given my first order

to take the shot. I told my command over a year ago that I was not going to

take the shot. I may well need the form you are talking about. Please email

it to me directly or mail to PH2 Troy Karr, NSTCP (Code 511), 1130 Bole St.,

Pearl Harbor, HI 96860.

Thanks!!! Hello one and all on the list as well....

Troy

>From: Dora gutierrez <dgutie10@...>

>Reply-onelist

>onelist

>Subject: Appeal Form

>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:13:01 -0700 (PDT)

>

>From: Dora gutierrez <dgutie10@...>

>

>Does anyone else need a copy of the discharge appeal form? I mailed

>and faxed all the requests I received....did everyone receive theirs?

>

>Dora Gutierrez

>210-690-9512

>

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I haven't received ours yet.

Jeff and Christi Proffitt

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Dora gutierrez

<dgutie10@...> writes:

>From: Dora gutierrez <dgutie10@...>

>

>Does anyone else need a copy of the discharge appeal form? I mailed

>and faxed all the requests I received....did everyone receive theirs?

>

>Dora Gutierrez

>210-690-9512

>

>

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To those who have supported me and others interested:

It is official. Tomorrow at 12:30 p.m. I will complete my " final out "

which is the final paperwork that discharges me from the U.S. Army. I will

officially end my service after midnight tomorrow (Fri. Oct 1). I was

administratively discharged under Chapter 14-12c, Commission of a Serious

Offense, of AR 635-200. Chapter 14 is the chapter covering Misconduct. I

will receive a general, under honorable conditions, discharge. I would have

served until my normal end of enlistment contract next May 2000. I refused to

take the anthrax vaccine in June 1999. My commanders were fearful themselves

but were in an awkward position.

Thank you to those of you have supported me in many ways through this

time. I am available for a short period of time at the following telephone

number (912)355-8879. I will be leaving the area shortly.

Sincerely,

Shepard

SGT, USA (will be " former " tomorrow evening)

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Good Luck !! To all those interested, I met this outstanding

gentleman... not only is he an outstanding gentleman, he is an outstanding

soldier which the military has now lost. Contrary to some of command's

popular belief that there are three bodies to take the place of one person

leaving the gate, this is no longer true. The quality of person's being

allowed to enter the gates is scary to say the least. Another quality

soldier lost to the controversy program. It's a sad day........ Keep in

touch, !!, and good luck to you, your wife, and your family!!

Randi

<< To those who have supported me and others interested:

It is official. Tomorrow at 12:30 p.m. I will complete my " final out "

which is the final paperwork that discharges me from the U.S. Army. I will

officially end my service after midnight tomorrow (Fri. Oct 1). I was

administratively discharged under Chapter 14-12c, Commission of a Serious

Offense, of AR 635-200. Chapter 14 is the chapter covering Misconduct. I

will receive a general, under honorable conditions, discharge. >>

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In a message dated 10/1/99 6:41:01 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Randice1@...

writes:

<< Contrary to some of command's

popular belief that there are three bodies to take the place of one person

leaving the gate, this is no longer true. The quality of person's being

allowed to enter the gates is scary to say the least. >>

True, but also remember that EVERY branch of the service(except of the Marine

Corps) is SHORT on recruits this year. The exception, being the marines, is

not exactly suprising, since the Marines recruit in a much different(and I

believe honest) manner than does the other services. People want to join the

Marine Corps to be Marines, not to get college money.

Also remember that the military HAS lowered the recruiting standards of

individuals that are entering the service now. When I was at a basic

training base for almost 3 years(I only got out a year or so ago), I remember

countless stories of recruiters bending the truth...no, lying....to get a

soldier in. I remember a female recruit from Kentucky who was on Prozac and

she had been treated for depression, and she said that the Army recruiter

told her to " stop taking Prozac now, but don't tell anyone that I told you to

stop. "

The military has increased its number of recruits who have not completed high

school either. They have reduced the standards since the recruiting

accessions are down, but by doing this they have also reduced the quality of

soldiers who enter into the military these days. Furthremore, the military

has also started to treat the soldiers better in basic training so that they

" don't quit " so that the number of soldiers failing out of basic training

isn't very large. What's the end result of this???

I saw a memo signed by Gen Dennis Reimer and distributed to the basic

training units on my post(memo singned on Jan 96 or so) and the memo said

that approximately 33% of the soldiers graduating from basic training do not

stay in the military for their entire first term of service. In other words,

they are kicked out since they cannot accomodate the physical or mental or

behavioral standards required to be a member of the military. In other

words, basic training is so easy and soft now that the soldiers who graduate

from there obviously can't meet the standards in the military these days.

And remember, if you can't complete your first term of service, then you

don't get any college money. Oh well.

What's the reason for so many people leaving the military these days and then

so few people entering the military??? Is it the economy??? NO. After all,

the economy was booming in the 80's and we didn't have any problems getting

people in the military then. The reason??? Decreased federal spending on the

military's benefits, and massively increased deployments around the world, on

social missions like keeping the peace(as if that's not an oxymoron) in

Bosnia, Haiti, or Kosovo.

Let's not forget Somalia, where we helped to feed the Somalis and stop them

from dying of starvation, and then they killed 18 US Army soldiers in October

18, 1993 in an ambush in downtown Mogadishu. Another reason that so few

people are entering the military now is that the military hasn't marketed

itself well. The military has done a very, very poor job of standing up for

itself during scarce federal budgets and missions around the world keeping

the peace. Also, the military has done a very bad job in its new,

friendlier, caring atmosphere, where there are required classes on

Consideration of Others, and Army Values. Of course, the man in the White

House, since he " loathes the military " , isn't doing any good either.

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Ellen, did you put the original in your files? That might be helpful. I'll

post it on the FSN website on Monday when , my webmaster is here.

Charlotte

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From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On

Behalf Of ellenbronfeld

Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 11:07 PM

IPADDUnite

Subject: Appeal Form

State of IllinoisDepartment of Human Services

Notice of Individual's Right to Appeal - English Version

IL462-1202 (R-9-08)

Page 1 of 1

NOTICE OF INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHT TO APPEALAny individual requesting or receiving

Medicaid waiver-funded services has the right to appeal adetermination by

Pre-Admission Screening or Individual Service and Support Advocacy

(PAS/ISSA) agencystaff that the individual does not meet the waiver

programmatic eligibility criteria. The PAS/ISSA agency willnotify the

individual in writing of the decision and the process to appeal.Any

individual receiving Medicaid waiver-funded services has the right to appeal

termination of waiverservices authorized by the DHS Division of

Developmental Disabilities or reduction of waiver-fundedservices by the

individual service planning team or by the DHS Division of Developmental

Disabilities. Thequalified mental retardation professional (QMRP) who

convened the team or the Division of DD will notifythe individual in writing

of the decision and the process to appeal.The process is defined more fully

in the Department's Medicaid waiver rule (59 ILL. Adm. Code 120.110)and in

the HFS appeal rule (89 ILL. Adm. Code 104.70).The individual or legal

guardian must submit a written request for appeal to the Department of

Healthcareand Family Services (HFS) at the address below within 60 calendar

days after the date the notice advisingthe individual of the above actions

is received. This 60-day limitation does not apply if the PAS/ISSAagency,

the Division of Developmental Disabilities or the qualified mental

retardation professional (QMRP)who convened the individual services planning

team fails to notify the individual in writing of the decision orof the time

limit.If an appeal request is received within 10 calendar days after receipt

of the notice of action, the decision inthe notice shall be stayed, pending

the results of the appeal.The appeal process includes a review by an

impartial hearing officer appointed by HFS. The HFS, as thesingle State

Medicaid agency, will make the final administrative decision for persons in

the Medicaidwaivers.For more information contact:Illinois Department of

Healthcare and Family ServicesBureau of Administrative Hearings401 South

Clinton Avenue 6th FloorChicago, Illinois 60607Telehpone: (312) 793-2636I

have read this form, or it has been read to me, and I have been given an

opportunity to ask any questionsI may have regarding my right to appeal

under the Medicaid Home and Community/Based ServicesWaiver(s)

Name of Individual:

Date:

Signature of Individual or Guardian:

Signature of Witness:

PLEASE PRINT

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Yep! I did put the form in the files section of IPADDU...

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Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Appeal Form

State of IllinoisDepartment of Human Services

Notice of Individual's Right to Appeal - English Version

IL462-1202 (R-9-08)

Page 1 of 1

NOTICE OF INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHT TO APPEALAny individual requesting or receiving

Medicaid waiver-funded services has the right to appeal adetermination by

Pre-Admission Screening or Individual Service and Support Advocacy

(PAS/ISSA) agencystaff that the individual does not meet the waiver

programmatic eligibility criteria. The PAS/ISSA agency willnotify the

individual in writing of the decision and the process to appeal.Any

individual receiving Medicaid waiver-funded services has the right to appeal

termination of waiverservices authorized by the DHS Division of

Developmental Disabilities or reduction of waiver-fundedservices by the

individual service planning team or by the DHS Division of Developmental

Disabilities. Thequalified mental retardation professional (QMRP) who

convened the team or the Division of DD will notifythe individual in writing

of the decision and the process to appeal.The process is defined more fully

in the Department's Medicaid waiver rule (59 ILL. Adm. Code 120.110)and in

the HFS appeal rule (89 ILL. Adm. Code 104.70).The individual or legal

guardian must submit a written request for appeal to the Department of

Healthcareand Family Services (HFS) at the address below within 60 calendar

days after the date the notice advisingthe individual of the above actions

is received. This 60-day limitation does not apply if the PAS/ISSAagency,

the Division of Developmental Disabilities or the qualified mental

retardation professional (QMRP)who convened the individual services planning

team fails to notify the individual in writing of the decision orof the time

limit.If an appeal request is received within 10 calendar days after receipt

of the notice of action, the decision inthe notice shall be stayed, pending

the results of the appeal.The appeal process includes a review by an

impartial hearing officer appointed by HFS. The HFS, as thesingle State

Medicaid agency, will make the final administrative decision for persons in

the Medicaidwaivers.For more information contact:Illinois Department of

Healthcare and Family ServicesBureau of Administrative Hearings401 South

Clinton Avenue 6th FloorChicago, Illinois 60607Telehpone: (312) 793-2636I

have read this form, or it has been read to me, and I have been given an

opportunity to ask any questionsI may have regarding my right to appeal

under the Medicaid Home and Community/Based ServicesWaiver(s)

Name of Individual:

Date:

Signature of Individual or Guardian:

Signature of Witness:

PLEASE PRINT

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Charlotte...do you know the answer to this???

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskb@...

Appeal Form

Hi again!

Do you think that we mail the Appeal Form to the address listed on the

form?

Thanks!

Jill A. Plato

26267 Panhandle Rd.

Kane, IL 62054

217-942-6856 (home-eve)

618-498-5656 (day-work)

217-248-1117 (cell)

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First off NOBODY in the waiver has received the termination letter yet. So

you can't send in a appeal letter until you get a termination letter.

The appeal process won't work for the FAP because it is not a Medicaid

Waiver program.

Re: the address. I don't know. You guys have read this closer than I have.

Charlotte

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From: IPADDUnite [mailto:IPADDUnite ] On

Behalf Of ELLEN BRONFELD

Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:38 PM

IPADDUnite

Subject: Re: Appeal Form

Charlotte...do you know the answer to this???

Ellen

Ellen Garber Bronfeld

egskbsbcglobal (DOT) <mailto:egskb%40sbcglobal.net> net

Appeal Form

Hi again!

Do you think that we mail the Appeal Form to the address listed on the

form?

Thanks!

Jill A. Plato

26267 Panhandle Rd.

Kane, IL 62054

217-942-6856 (home-eve)

618-498-5656 (day-work)

217-248-1117 (cell)

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