Guest guest Posted August 30, 2000 Report Share Posted August 30, 2000 I am in Danville Ca about 45 minutes from San Francisco. What is prop 38 about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2000 Report Share Posted August 30, 2000 Where are you located in CA? I had a wonderful Dr in Modesto. While he wasn't against Vaccinations, he was open to letting me make my own decisions and his associate actually had the guts to tell me the truth about antibiotics. My son had an ear infection and instead of just sending (or trying to) me home with a script, he actually told me: It doesn't really matter whether he takes them or not, the infect will go away on it's own without treatment, it just might take a day or two longer. What a relief to finally find an honest Dr. Annette M. Hall Vote NO on Prop 38 http://www.homeschoolchristian.com/Position/Duffy/Vouchers.html subscribe/CA-Prop38 -----Original Message-----From: JILBAIT@... [mailto:JILBAIT@...]Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:52 PMVaccinationsegroupsSubject: Anyone from CA Is there anyone from Ca here - that may have a good doctor they can tell me about? Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 CA Prop 38 is the voucher initiative, please check out the link below. If you are interested in more information please feel free to subscribe to this list. It's not nearly as active as this list, but has great information and both sides of the issue are well represented. Annette M. Hall Vote NO on Prop 38 http://www.homeschoolchristian.com/Position/Duffy/Vouchers.html subscribe/CA-Prop38 -----Original Message-----From: JILBAIT@... [mailto:JILBAIT@...]Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:41 PMVaccinationsegroupsSubject: Re: Anyone from CA I am in Danville Ca about 45 minutes from San Francisco.What is prop 38 about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 I live in San Diego, but sorry no info on Doctors, my son only went when he was 2 weeks old, since then he has seen a Midwife for his check-ups and a Chiropractor every month or so..... Love CHelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 I'm in Camarillo! Has anyone tried homeopathic versions of vaccinations? Kriszta Re: Anyone from CA > > Jill: I'm in Oxnard where are you? > Kendal > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 Classic homeopaths I talked to don't consider these true homeopathy since homeopathic remedies are given in response to a symptom picture, and not as a preventative.. I also asked my daughter's ped (very alternative, essential oils, homeopathy, herbs, etc..) and he said the same. Galit ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Go to www.slingsetc.com for Maya Wrap Slings and Pouches!!! > > I'm in Camarillo! > Has anyone tried homeopathic versions of vaccinations? > > Kriszta > > > Re: Anyone from CA > > > > > > Jill: I'm in Oxnard where are you? > > Kendal > > > > > > > > > > > > Galit ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^ Go to www.slingsetc.com for Maya Wrap Slings and Pouches!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 > Has anyone tried homeopathic versions of vaccinations? > > Kriszta Hi, I knew of someone who did these homeopathic vaccinations and very quickly e-mailed my homeopath for information. I was excited that there may be a more natural way to go. This was her reply: " I realise that homeopathic 'vaccinations' are on offer from some people, but I am afraid I dont offer this service since I'm not sure I can agree with it. The reason - briefly - is as follows: Conventional Vaccination is based on the concept that a small amount of the disease product introduced into th body results in antibodies being produced which protect against reinfection. On this level, the process works - vaccinations work - but there are many problems with them. The assault to an immature immune system is pretty strong - sometimes there have been bad effects from vaccines and even tragic ones. The orthodox view is that vaccination has conquered life threatening epidemics like whooping cough, whilst other researchers maintain that by interpreting the same data in a different way the provision of clean water and better housing conditions along with better nutrition has had more effect on epidemics than vaccination campaigns...... My view is that both of these camps have a point! What I worry about is that there are ever more vaccinations being introduced that all apparently need to be given at such a young age - I feel that this is weakening in general to the future health of the child - I wonder whether diseases like asthma etc, now so common in young children, may not be due in part to this. This is only my view. If I was to have my own child vaccinated at this time I would space the vaccinations much more, and probably refuse some of them. In the mean time, the most important thing is to increase the health potential of the child through diet, play, love etc! And proper constitutional treatment from a good homeopath. So that a healthy child is much less likely to get any kind of illness anyway...... A homeopathic remedy works on the principle of similars - that is that a substance capable of producing symptoms ina healthy person is also capable of curing those same symptoms in a sick person. Therefore I think that you need to see the symptoms before you can give a remedy............The problem with these homeopathic 'vaccinations' is that given prophylactically there can be no symptoms picture to prescribe on - so that in my view these homeopaths are muddling the way that homeopathy works with the way that allopathy works.........eg the symptoms picture of Diptherinum includes symptoms like - prostration, restless without pain, wants to be held, see's imaginary objects, carphology, eye accomodation problems, flushed face, anorexia, polyneutitis, harsh cough, voice lost, dyspnea, difficulty expectorating worse at night especially children and old persons, moist tongue with red tip or swollen red, nosebleeds etc etc......... and on and on just like any one of the thousands of remedies that there are in the homeopathic materia medica. In order for me to prescribe this I would need to see a reason for giving it - I would need to see symptoms like this. There are many Homeopaths sho will prescribe prophylactically and have not had a problem with it but I do not really see the logic so I'm afraid I dont. The best treatment is to 1. vaccinate or not vaccinate.....make your decision after reading everything you can and staying logical and sane- - or space vaccines more and give them singly - there are many good books available to help you decide whether to vaccinate or not and I will list some at the end 2. give the childs constitutional remedy - before and after - homeopathically - prescribed by seeing and working with the child to determine his particular characteristics and unique susceptibility - this results in reducing suceptibility and increasing health - this is logical, scientific, and stands by the highest principles in homeopathy. In my view, unless the child has already started to develop Diptheria, giving Homeopathic Diptherinum cannot possibly result in production of antibodies to Diptheria or reduced susceptibility to the same, therefore the process is flawed. Books The vaccine guide - Randall Neustaedter - North Atlantic Books 96 ISBN 155663 2151 Immunisation against Infectious Diseases - Dept of Health - HMSO 96 ISBN 321 8156 Vaccination - the medical assault on the immune system - Viera Schneibner - Pub in Australia by author in 93 ISBN 064615124X An Educated Decision - one approach to the vaccination problem using Homeopathy - Head 97 Booklets Should I have my child vaccinated - Dr Wolfgang Goebel - Anthroposophical Medical Association 1990. Mass Imunisation a POint in Question by Trevor Gunn - Cutting Edge Publications 92 Measles, The Disease, the vaccine, The Homeopathic treatment - RD Micklem 94 Obtainable from Minerva Books - 173 Fulham Palace Road, London W6 8QT Tel 0171 385 1361 Remember - if your child gets measles or mumps for instance - they are treatable with homeopathy anyway and there is a case for considering the maturing or developmental effect on the immune system of these childhood diseases........ You may like to contact: The Informed Parent - PO Box 870 Harrow Middlesex HA3 7UW Tel 0181 861 1022 (woops London numbers have changed ....) gives support and information to parents making decisions about vaccinations - established by parents....... or JABS - Justice Awareness and Basic Support - self help group specifically for those damaged by vaccines and also to promote general underatnding about vaccines........... Articles from Journals The Case against Immunisation - Moskowitz - The Homeopath 1984 4 (4) 3-13 Vaccination: A sacrament of Modern Medicine - Moskowitz - The Homeopath - 1992 12 (1 ) 134-41 The rights and wrongs of measles vaccination - English - British Homeopathic Journal - 1995 - 84 156-63 These 3 articles are available from the Society of Homeopaths 2 Artizan Road Northampton NN1 4HU Tel 01604 621400 or e mail at societyofhomeopaths@... Hope this helps. Must stop now - Katrina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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