Introduction

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave,

Nice to see another North East lad ! By any chance are you the

Dave Olley that works or used to work for a company called Terramar ? Work

on the rescue/ recovery vessels myself and think I've heard your name ( in

good terms !! )

Anyhow, welcome to the list,

All the best,

Andy

----------------

Thanks for the welcome Andy,

Nope, I have never worked for 'Terramar' I'm afraid.

Strange but true 1.

------------------

I was in the offices of North Sea Medical Centre in Yarmouth a good few

years back and I noticed my name up on a board that showed I was onboard a

rig in the Southern sector. When I asked about it the girl got into a " Oh

no! Who's out there now then? " type flap.

Turns out that there were two Dave Olleys' working in the North sea at the

time.

Strange but true 2.

------------------

The other chap was working on the Tharos when it attended the Piper Alpha

disaster, (luckily for some of the survivors as he reportedly managed a

difficult situation in an exemplary manner).

His professionalism has actually got me a couple of job inteviews!

Last I heard he had given up working offshore and was running 1st aid

courses etc in Dundee or some-such desolate place. <grin>

Many is the time I've had people knock at the sick bay door and ask for Dave

Olley, only to tell me I'm not me!

Where in the North East are you then?

Cheers

Dave

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Ah, to have a famous name ! Must admit I thought you were the second guy !

I am located in a canny place call'd Durham ! Any time you want a pint and

you are in the area, give us a shout !

All the best

Andy

Re: Introduction

> Hi Dave,

> Nice to see another North East lad ! By any chance are you the

> Dave Olley that works or used to work for a company called Terramar ? Work

> on the rescue/ recovery vessels myself and think I've heard your name ( in

> good terms !! )

> Anyhow, welcome to the list,

> All the best,

> Andy

> ----------------

> Thanks for the welcome Andy,

>

> Nope, I have never worked for 'Terramar' I'm afraid.

>

> Strange but true 1.

> ------------------

> I was in the offices of North Sea Medical Centre in Yarmouth a good few

> years back and I noticed my name up on a board that showed I was onboard a

> rig in the Southern sector. When I asked about it the girl got into a " Oh

> no! Who's out there now then? " type flap.

>

> Turns out that there were two Dave Olleys' working in the North sea at the

> time.

>

> Strange but true 2.

> ------------------

>

> The other chap was working on the Tharos when it attended the Piper Alpha

> disaster, (luckily for some of the survivors as he reportedly managed a

> difficult situation in an exemplary manner).

>

> His professionalism has actually got me a couple of job inteviews!

>

> Last I heard he had given up working offshore and was running 1st aid

> courses etc in Dundee or some-such desolate place. <grin>

>

> Many is the time I've had people knock at the sick bay door and ask for

Dave

> Olley, only to tell me I'm not me!

>

> Where in the North East are you then?

>

> Cheers

> Dave

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Dave,

Welcome to the list. Like you I'm from the NE, just up the road in Blyth. Though

hopefully not for much longer.....

Feel free to lurk as long as you like :-)

Best Wishes

Ian

Listowner

Re: Introduction

Hi Dave,

Nice to see another North East lad ! By any chance are you the

Dave Olley that works or used to work for a company called Terramar ? Work

on the rescue/ recovery vessels myself and think I've heard your name ( in

good terms !! )

Anyhow, welcome to the list,

All the best,

Andy

----------------

Thanks for the welcome Andy,

Nope, I have never worked for 'Terramar' I'm afraid.

Strange but true 1.

------------------

I was in the offices of North Sea Medical Centre in Yarmouth a good few

years back and I noticed my name up on a board that showed I was onboard a

rig in the Southern sector. When I asked about it the girl got into a " Oh

no! Who's out there now then? " type flap.

Turns out that there were two Dave Olleys' working in the North sea at the

time.

Strange but true 2.

------------------

The other chap was working on the Tharos when it attended the Piper Alpha

disaster, (luckily for some of the survivors as he reportedly managed a

difficult situation in an exemplary manner).

His professionalism has actually got me a couple of job inteviews!

Last I heard he had given up working offshore and was running 1st aid

courses etc in Dundee or some-such desolate place. <grin>

Many is the time I've had people knock at the sick bay door and ask for Dave

Olley, only to tell me I'm not me!

Where in the North East are you then?

Cheers

Dave

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Dave,

It was funny enough to warrent reproducing for those who don't have internet

access only email,

Here is the article

Oil Company's Approach to Psychological Wellbeing in the North Sea

All human beings need a degree of stimulation to ensure normal mental health -

indeed, solitary confinement in a prison cell, without any stimulation or useful

activity to perform, can be used as a form of punishment, purposely leading to

an unpleasant frame of mind in the prisoner. In normal life however, this means

that a certain degree of stimulation or 'incentive' is a normal and healthy

thing: the person experiencing this at work for example, should end up with a

pleasurable feeling of a sense of satisfied achievement, a challenge met and a

job well done.

Unfortunately however, some people find that the 'stimulating' events or

circumstances in their life do not lead to a sense of satisfaction and

happiness. In this case, the 'stimulating' events or circumstances are sometimes

called 'stressors' and the mental feeling resulting is sometimes called

'stress'. This is a difficult concept to define, but it is always associated

with unpleasant and negative feelings - if these feelings are not present, it is

very hard to say that a person is 'stressed'. 'Stress' is not a single defined

state of mind with a single cause, but a range of states of mind, some more

pathological than others and all with a complex and interacting set of

contributing circumstances. The feelings experienced vary from the extremes of:

-

a) milder feelings of frustration, exasperation and/or irritation at events

common in all our lives, whether at work or not, to:

severe feelings of inability to cope, unhappiness and mental distress,

amounting at worst to frank depression and/or anxiety, and in such cases almost

inevitably leading to being signed sick off work, either with 'stress' or

another similar diagnostic label

This statement describes Mega-Bucks approach to the issue of maximising

employees' sense of psychological wellbeing.

You shall: -

Lose a day of your field break travelling up to Aberdeen in order to spend a

night in some cheap digs or over-rated 3 star hotel (preferably to share a room

with a stranger).

Have your personal belongings searched, and any wrapped items opened. This is

especially true during the festive period when any presents secreted in your bag

by a family member as a surprise, (normally labeled 'Do Not Open Until Christmas

Day') are opened in front of all and sundry.

Immediately prior to boarding a helicopter you shall view a video that stresses

all the hazards of such travel

On arrival at your offshore installation, be shown another video describing the

hazards of working offshore.

Share your a cabin with a stranger or two

Eat such food as is provided by a catering company that has grown proficient at

transforming a roast of beef into other incarnations; i.e., beef & vegetable

casserole, which becomes beefsteak pie, then Cornish pasties, the filling soon

producing a wonderful beef & vegetable curry.

Become immune to constant Tannoy announcement at all times of day and night.

Learn to live with your accommodation constantly vibrating due to the fact that

you are sleeping directly above the shale-shakers or diesel generators.

Be prepared to work beyond your allotted 12 hours at the whim of the OIM or

Toolpusher.

Have restricted access to telephone communications - NOTE: this does not apply

to the OIM or Toolpusher.

Declare all prescribed and over-the-counter medications Note: - this does not

apply to Prozac, Seroxat or Surmontil.

J Hakenbacker III - President, Mega-Bucks Oil Co.

Re: Introduction

Hi Dave,

Nice to see another North East lad ! By any chance are you the

Dave Olley that works or used to work for a company called Terramar ? Work

on the rescue/ recovery vessels myself and think I've heard your name ( in

good terms !! )

Anyhow, welcome to the list,

All the best,

Andy

----------------

Thanks for the welcome Andy,

Nope, I have never worked for 'Terramar' I'm afraid.

Strange but true 1.

------------------

I was in the offices of North Sea Medical Centre in Yarmouth a good few

years back and I noticed my name up on a board that showed I was onboard a

rig in the Southern sector. When I asked about it the girl got into a " Oh

no! Who's out there now then? " type flap.

Turns out that there were two Dave Olleys' working in the North sea at the

time.

Strange but true 2.

------------------

The other chap was working on the Tharos when it attended the Piper Alpha

disaster, (luckily for some of the survivors as he reportedly managed a

difficult situation in an exemplary manner).

His professionalism has actually got me a couple of job inteviews!

Last I heard he had given up working offshore and was running 1st aid

courses etc in Dundee or some-such desolate place. <grin>

Many is the time I've had people knock at the sick bay door and ask for Dave

Olley, only to tell me I'm not me!

Where in the North East are you then?

Cheers

Dave

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From: " geeKsuperstar " <melissa@...>

>A book list would also be a nice thing to have in the Database area,

>because then everyone can add to it. Some authors have already come

>up, and I know there's a bit of controversy around Mandy Aftel's new

>book. I just want to be sure that any book I buy isn't utter junk

>that could result in any skin problems.

Hi all,

I agree with , a book list is a good idea. I buy tons of books, you

should see my office :-). Some of them have not been worth the paper they

were written on. I would love to see a book review so we could limit our

purchases of the junk.

Cheers! Sheryon

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Hi Colleen ...Sure - use your left leg.

Sounds to me like you are revved up and ready for BFL! I wish you much good

luck and welcome to our group.

Rita

Introduction

> I’ve been “lurking” on the list for a few days now and wanted to post a

> quick introduction. I’m waiting for my BFL book to arrive so I can

> officially get started and figured until then I’d try to gain all the

> knowledge I can. My goals are basically to reduce body fat, gain muscle

and

> get that motivation back (the book does come with extra motivation

included,

> right?) I currently follow a zone eating plan (40% carbs, 30% protein,

30%

> fat), so switching to BFL should be relatively easy to calculate; again it

’s

> that darn lack of willpower that gets in the way at times. I also have a

> degree in nutrition so I’m familiar with food breakdowns and calculating.

As

> far as lifting weights, years ago I followed a similar style of pyramiding

> my weights, then was diagnosed with carpal tunnel and chronic neck pain;

> took 2 years off pouting; and have been back to working out about 1 ½

years

> now. Most of my workouts I do at home with exercise videos with “gym

style”

> lifting, but not the pyramid method. I’m making some daily changes to my

> diet and workout plan and hope to be ready to “officially” start on July

> 1st, but it all depends on when my book arrives. I took some

measurements,

> have been eating cleaner since last Thursday and Sunday started following

> the workout as listed on the body for life website. This Sunday I noticed

> my jeans were much more comfortable to sit in…so that’s a good start!!

>

> I’ll try to hold off on questions until I have read the book at least once

> since I’m sure most of them will be answered there. I do have one quick

> question. When I go to the biofitness bodyfat calculator it asks for

> measurements of the right thigh and right calf. Years ago I had a knee

> injury and have always favored that leg a bit. My left leg, thigh and calf

> are 1/2 " bigger, so should I use the left leg measurements? Thanks!

>

> Colleen

>

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Colleen Meacham wrote:

> I’ve been “lurking” on the list for a few days now and wanted to post a

> quick introduction. I’m waiting for my BFL book to arrive so I can

> officially get started and figured until then I’d try to gain all the

> knowledge I can. My goals are basically to reduce body fat, gain muscle and

> get that motivation back (the book does come with extra motivation included,

> right?) I currently follow a zone eating plan (40% carbs, 30% protein, 30%

> fat), so switching to BFL should be relatively easy to calculate; again it’s

> that darn lack of willpower that gets in the way at times. I also have a

> degree in nutrition so I’m familiar with food breakdowns and calculating. As

> far as lifting weights, years ago I followed a similar style of pyramiding

> my weights, then was diagnosed with carpal tunnel and chronic neck pain;

> took 2 years off pouting; and have been back to working out about 1 ½ years

> now. Most of my workouts I do at home with exercise videos with “gym style”

> lifting, but not the pyramid method. I’m making some daily changes to my

> diet and workout plan and hope to be ready to “officially” start on July

> 1st, but it all depends on when my book arrives. I took some measurements,

> have been eating cleaner since last Thursday and Sunday started following

> the workout as listed on the body for life website. This Sunday I noticed

> my jeans were much more comfortable to sit in…so that’s a good start!!

>

> I’ll try to hold off on questions until I have read the book at least once

> since I’m sure most of them will be answered there. I do have one quick

> question. When I go to the biofitness bodyfat calculator it asks for

> measurements of the right thigh and right calf. Years ago I had a knee

> injury and have always favored that leg a bit. My left leg, thigh and calf

> are 1/2 " bigger, so should I use the left leg measurements? Thanks!

>

> Colleen

Welcome to the group, Colleen and congrats on starting BFL

Serenity

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl,

Nice to meet you...

What size batch did you want to make of cp soap ?

Kim

-- Introduction

I am so thrilled to find a group like this close to home. I live in

Corfu ( near Batavia) and have inlaws in Rochester.

I make body care products and M & P. I think I finally have the courage

to try my first CP soap. If any of you have what you think is a good

recipe for a newbie please let me know. I prefer not to use animal

products so if you have such a thing, I thank you in advance.

Once again, happy to find you, you all sound like really nice guys!

Cheryl

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Jackie-

Welcome! Congratulations on the pregnancy. You will be 2 steps ahead

of the game if you are already eating in a BFL manner and getting any

kind of exercise while you are pregnant! I have 2 children and DH

and will probably start trying for #3 pretty soon. I am almost done

with C1 and have had pretty decent results so far. My goal was to

finish one challenge and then we could start trying for a third. BFL

is so addictive though, I am kind of waffling about letting my

body 'go' through pregnancy! I figure that this time, though, I will

actually want to exercise a little and eat better. My prior

pregnancies and nursing experiences were excuses to eat whatever,

whenever and however much I wanted. So, I can't compare notes with

you yet about being pregnant and eating BFL, but hopefully I will

soon!

Kathleen

> Hi everyone!

>

> I've been lurking for a couple weeks and figured it was about time

I

> introduced myself.

>

> My husband and I found BFL about a year ago and started our first

> challenge. Now, he's been bodybuilding for about 3 years or so, so

> he had a tough time accepting the Training For Life portions. About

> a week and a half into it he stopped training with me. Well, that's

> all it took to get me off the program.

>

> Now it's a year later and I'm about 3 months pregnant. As I've been

> reading my pregnancy books I've noticed that a lot of what I read

> about BFL was being repeated in the pregnancy books. Eat small

> frequent meals throughout the day. Replace white flour with wheat.

> Be sure you get enough protein and don't overload on carbs. So I

> visited the BFL website for recipe ideas I could use in my

pregnancy.

>

> Well that's all it took to get back on the bandwagon. I know I

can't

> train or even do the full diet now that I'm pregnant, but I plan to

> get started as soon after the baby's born as possible. (I'm due in

> January.) And I'm already cooking a lot of BFL approved meals, I'm

> just not doing the full program yet. Ever tried to practice

> restraint while pregnant? lol. My husband has always liked the

> eating plan of BFL, so at least that part we can share. And we're

> about to join a gym where he can do his power-lifting while I do my

> thing. For now it will just be the treadmill and the pregnancy

> classes they offer. But around February I plan to start my

> challenge....assuming my doctor gives me the go-ahead.

>

> I'd love to hear from anyone who has done a challenge while

pregnant

> or breastfeeding. Or anyone who plans to and what their goals are.

>

> Thanks for letting me lurk.

>

> Jackie

[Guest guest]

> Hi everyone!

>

> I've been lurking for a couple weeks and figured it was about time

I

> introduced myself.

>

> My husband and I found BFL about a year ago and started our first

> challenge. Now, he's been bodybuilding for about 3 years or so, so

> he had a tough time accepting the Training For Life portions. About

> a week and a half into it he stopped training with me. Well, that's

> all it took to get me off the program.

>

> Now it's a year later and I'm about 3 months pregnant. As I've been

> reading my pregnancy books I've noticed that a lot of what I read

> about BFL was being repeated in the pregnancy books. Eat small

> frequent meals throughout the day. Replace white flour with wheat.

> Be sure you get enough protein and don't overload on carbs. So I

> visited the BFL website for recipe ideas I could use in my

pregnancy.

>

> Well that's all it took to get back on the bandwagon. I know I

can't

> train or even do the full diet now that I'm pregnant, but I plan to

> get started as soon after the baby's born as possible. (I'm due in

> January.) And I'm already cooking a lot of BFL approved meals, I'm

> just not doing the full program yet. Ever tried to practice

> restraint while pregnant? lol. My husband has always liked the

> eating plan of BFL, so at least that part we can share. And we're

> about to join a gym where he can do his power-lifting while I do my

> thing. For now it will just be the treadmill and the pregnancy

> classes they offer. But around February I plan to start my

> challenge....assuming my doctor gives me the go-ahead.

>

> I'd love to hear from anyone who has done a challenge while

pregnant

> or breastfeeding. Or anyone who plans to and what their goals are.

>

> Thanks for letting me lurk.

>

> Jackie

[Guest guest]

Hi Bidget, welcome to the group, i am only 41 and got mine in june, so i know

how you feel. but dont let it get you down, just remeber its there to help

when need thats all. and you get to keep on living and having fun. or thats

the way i look at it.

If you ever want to talk just email me.

Suzanne

[Guest guest]

Hello Bridget;

I was in your shoes last february, scared emotionally messed up(that was me)

very scared and got even certain fobias along with it. But remember one

thing this family has been thru everybody has some story and were all with

you. It really gets better. I know its very hard but when ever you feel

lonely or scared get on the email and i know some body is here almost 24hrs

a day.Take care, Good Luck, Good Health and Good Heart. Love TURK

PS:Don't know if you have a husband or not but he really has to step up and

help you patiently or if you don't we'll do that for you so don't worry ok.

>From: " rumpleteasermom " <rumpleteasermom@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Introduction

>Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 12:42:27 -0000

>

>Hello,

>My name is Bridget I'm 38 and I was implanted with an ICD on July 12.

> This was all kind of sudden and I am reeling emotionally at the

>moment. Any sage advice for how to deal with this would be greatly

>appreciated.

>

>Bridget

>

>

>

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----- Original Message -----

From: " rumpleteasermom "

> Any sage advice for how to deal

> with this would be greatly appreciated.

Bridget:

sorry but I don't know anything about herbs and spices.

Best.

Bill

[Guest guest]

Hi and Welcome to the list . I'm Terri the list owner... I live a near

Baldwinsville... just outside of Syracuse. I hope you can find this list a

nice place to relax.... we don't always stay on the soaping topic. We're

more like a group of friends who just like to chat. So if you've had a bad

day or a good day know you can post about it here and have kind ears who

will listen. We have a co-listmom... Colleen. If you any help with anything

group or related contact either of us and we'll try to help you out.

Terri

[Guest guest]

Hi Candy! WElcome to this list. Feel free to jump in anytime and post. We

love to chat!

What kinds of soaps do you and your stister make? Any other products? How

do you sell? shows or ???

I tend to stick to my tried and true recipes too but at times I get an itch

to experiment.

Welcome again!

Shaye

The Soap Shack

www.mysoapshack.com

Introduction

Hello Everyone,

I just wanted to introduce myself, my name is Candy and I live in

Corinth, NY. It is right outside Saratoga Springs. I am thrilled to

see so many people in my area who are making soap. My sister and I

have been making soap for over a year (maybe closer to 2), and I love

it. I hope I can contribute to this group, but am mostly a

reader/lurker. I love new recipies(sp) and to experiment a bit. But

have to admit, I have a recipe that my sister and I love. So we

generally stick to that. Nice to meet everyone!

Candy

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Hello Peggy,

Thanks for the welcome!

Candy

> Hi Candy! Welcome to the group.

>

> Peggy (south of Rochester)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Candy, welcome to the group.

Dee

Introduction

Hello Everyone,

I just wanted to introduce myself, my name is Candy and I live in

Corinth, NY. It is right outside Saratoga Springs. I am thrilled to

see so many people in my area who are making soap. My sister and I

have been making soap for over a year (maybe closer to 2), and I love

it. I hope I can contribute to this group, but am mostly a

reader/lurker. I love new recipies(sp) and to experiment a bit. But

have to admit, I have a recipe that my sister and I love. So we

generally stick to that. Nice to meet everyone!

Candy

[Guest guest]

Hello Terry,

Thank you, and thank you all for the nice greetings. If I need any

help I will be sure to ask

Candy

[Guest guest]

Hi Nortina,

We have a lot in common. First I want to say, way to go for continuing your

education! I will be 23 in Jan, I have a son who will be 2 in Nov. I am in

school also working towards a Registered Nurse degree.

Being a mother alone is challenging, but being a college student and a mother

can be overwhelming. When I was working out regularly, and attending school full

time I found that the workouts really did increase my enegry. I was still tired

all the time...but it gave me the energy I needed to get through each day. I

think if I had not incorporated a exercise routine, I probably would have become

so overwhelmed and dropped my classes.

You are smart to take advantage of the little time you have to work out. I fell

off the " wagon " and I am back trying to pick up those old healthy habits. Let us

know how you do. There are lots of BFL veterans here who can answer any

questions that you may have.

Nortina Bell wrote:Hello everyone,

I would like to (finally) introduce myself. This list was mentioned on another

and I thought that I would join. So far I haven't kept up very well =) But I

hope to give that a little more effort.

My name is Nortina, I am almost 22 and am mom to twin girls, and Ashleigh

who have just turned 4 and are starting school...tomorrow! I started school

myself last week, I am driving an hour to get to college to become a Registered

Massage Therapist. This course load is pretty heavy, and with my kids I am busy

and/or tired all of the time!

I stumbled across BFL in a magazine while I was working out at my local YMCA

nearly a year ago, I went out and bought the book right away and found something

that I thought would finally work for me. I love the BFL program, but I have

yet to complete a challenge. It was weird, I did it for a few weeks my first

try, I felt great in every aspect, but I didn't follow through. I am very

disappointed in myself for that. Since then, I have never really started though

I try to keep up with the nutrition aspect.

For every day that I have classes, except for one (Wednesday's) I have only one

one hour break through the whole day. So I have only that hour to work out in

the college fitness center. The fitness center is basic, but is equipped with

everything I would need for a BFL workout.

Sometimes I think that I must be crazy to want to try to keep up with a fitness

routine while I am in shcool, but I really feel that I need to. I definitly need

the energy to stay awake and alert during my classes and while driving, and of

course, for the time that I will spend with my children and studies. I want to

feel healthy, fit and confident with myself. Of course, I want to look better

than I do now! I have some " before " pictures that I need to scan. They are from

ages ago, but I really haven't changed much. I am thinking of sharing them to

give me more incentive to keep going, I wouldn't want everyone to think that I

will always look like that =)

So that is it for me, sorry that I rambled on so much. I hope to have fun here

and learn a lot in this group.

Thanks!

nortina

[Guest guest]

Nortina,

Welcome! It is so nice to hear someone say that they need to work

out BECAUSE they are so busy rather than they CAN'T work out because

they are so busy. You are right, the crazier your life, the more you

need this. Good luck and post often!

Lynda

[Guest guest]

Hello Nortina and welcome to the group. You sound extremely busy and you are

right - that's the most important time to make sure and keep yourself physically

fit! You'll be a better student and mom. Good luck to you and post often!

Park

Introduction

Hello everyone,

I would like to (finally) introduce myself. This list was mentioned on another

and I thought that I would join. So far I haven't kept up very well =) But I

hope to give that a little more effort.

My name is Nortina, I am almost 22 and am mom to twin girls, and

Ashleigh who have just turned 4 and are starting school...tomorrow! I started

school myself last week, I am driving an hour to get to college to become a

Registered Massage Therapist. This course load is pretty heavy, and with my kids

I am busy and/or tired all of the time!

I stumbled across BFL in a magazine while I was working out at my local YMCA

nearly a year ago, I went out and bought the book right away and found something

that I thought would finally work for me. I love the BFL program, but I have

yet to complete a challenge. It was weird, I did it for a few weeks my first

try, I felt great in every aspect, but I didn't follow through. I am very

disappointed in myself for that. Since then, I have never really started though

I try to keep up with the nutrition aspect.

For every day that I have classes, except for one (Wednesday's) I have only

one one hour break through the whole day. So I have only that hour to work out

in the college fitness center. The fitness center is basic, but is equipped with

everything I would need for a BFL workout.

Sometimes I think that I must be crazy to want to try to keep up with a

fitness routine while I am in shcool, but I really feel that I need to. I

definitly need the energy to stay awake and alert during my classes and while

driving, and of course, for the time that I will spend with my children and

studies. I want to feel healthy, fit and confident with myself. Of course, I

want to look better than I do now! I have some " before " pictures that I need to

scan. They are from ages ago, but I really haven't changed much. I am thinking

of sharing them to give me more incentive to keep going, I wouldn't want

everyone to think that I will always look like that =)

So that is it for me, sorry that I rambled on so much. I hope to have fun here

and learn a lot in this group.

Thanks!

nortina

[Guest guest]

Hi Nortina,

We have a lot in common. First I want to say, way to go for continuing your

education! I will be 23 in Jan, I have a son who will be 2 in Nov. I am in

school also working towards a Registered Nurse degree.

Thanks . This has been a big step for me, I have been wanting to go back

to school for a long time now. It's exciting to actually be there. How do you

find school and having a child? I know that it's hard, but it's possible,

right? =)

Being a mother alone is challenging, but being a college student and a mother

can be overwhelming. When I was working out regularly, and attending school full

time I found that the workouts really did increase my enegry.

That is what I am hoping for. I've already fallen asleep in a class, I really

want to avoid that!

I was still tired all the time...but it gave me the energy I needed to get

through each day. I think if I had not incorporated a exercise routine, I

probably would have become so overwhelmed and dropped my classes.

How long have you been in school?

You are smart to take advantage of the little time you have to work out. I

fell off the " wagon " and I am back trying to pick up those old healthy habits.

Let us know how you do. There are lots of BFL veterans here who can answer any

questions that you may have.

I have as well. I was doing well for awhile, then I just quit. I still can't

figure out why as when I was, I was feeling better than I had in a very long

time. I think that I focus too much on the " long run " and have to think of just

each day at a time so I don't get overwhelmed. Also, I would make a lot of

excuses for eating badly. " Oh, I'll work it off tomorrow.. " was my biggest one

=)

nortina

[Guest guest]

I am 48 yrs old, 5 kids, last 2 unvaccinated. It was a hard call to make 8yrs

ago when I had to make the decision but after talking to two naturopaths and an

excellent (medically trained for 4 yrs) homeopath it wasn't too hard. Now after

8 yrs of looking into it I wouldn't vaccinate under any circumstances as I

outline here http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html

For one thing measles deaths had declined by 99.4% before vaccination but they

sell the vaccines as if vaccination was the ONLY factor in measles deaths

decline--one great deception after another.

IMO the chances of my kid dying from measles are virtually nil (especially under

a naturopath or homeopath) but the chances of him dying from MMR vaccine are

very real (government lies about that too--just heard our Chief Vaccine Officer

lying on radio when she said mmr doesn't kill) and the chances of mmr autism are

high--now 1 in 86 kids have autism in some areas and its mostly down to vaccines

like DPT & MMR.

As for terrorism---the chances of anyone being successful with smallpox

bioterrorism are slim--how come Saddam didn't use it in the war with Iran? And

the chances of the vaccine saving you are nil--most victims in the past had been

vaccinated by the way--90-99%. And the chances of dying from the vaccine or

being injured are high. And smallpox dangers have been hyped by the vaccinators

for 200 yrs--was considered less deadly than measles in 1890.

As for anthrax--ditto--and read about Gulf War Syndrome--that should put you off

that one!

john

introduction

Hello, my name is and I live in Massachusetts. I am 27 and about to

have a baby in about 2 weeks. I don't plan to vaccinate in the traditional

way (starting at 2 mos., and giving many vacc. at once). I've heard that

spreading out MMR is better than giving it at once. I will not vaccinate

for Hep or Chicken Pox. I just don't know - it can be so overwhelming, but

I'll figure it out. I will probably start around 1 year and space out all

of them if I give vaccines at all. I have a list of all the thermisol free

vaccines, but the other ingredients scare me as well (aluminum, monkey

cells, formaldehyde, etc...) I'm reading a book and trying to learn all I

can. I plan to keep learning over the next year - and beyond that

obviously.

I have autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's Disease - which is a form of

hypothyroidism) and don't want to further complicate my child's immune

system. My interest is to learn more about what people have gone through

and form the best plan of action for my child. The thing that scares me the

most is the terrorism that we are facing (I know everyone will not agree

with me on that and that's OK). The question I give to myself is - would I

feel worse if my child got a disease from a vaccination or from not

vaccinating? Well, that's about me - I hope to learn from you all

Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

Hello:

I am D'. I recently purchased a Brainmaster 1.9a with Animation

Pro to work on my 8 year old daughter. She is adopted from China and has

many post-institutional problems that we've been dealing with therapeutically

for about 6 years(PTSD, RAD, Sensory INtegration, vision, auditory

processing, to name a few). We had a Qeeg done with a local practioner,

interpreted by Jay Gunkleman. Her Theta-Beta ratios were mostly 3 standard

deviations off norm. It's quite clear we have alot of work ahead.

We've been doing 15 mins each of FZ/A1/A2 beta, followed by C4/A1/A2 SMR.

After 15 sessions I'm seeing positive changes -- more focused and calm, more

organized, better sleep, decreased anxiety. Theta has not dropped, Beta has

not gone up.

Two behaviors that really bother me haven't budged and I wonder if there is

anything more I could be doing. They are:

Frustration levels that escalate over sometimes simple tasks (while reading

along smoothly, she stumbles over one word that she obviously knows. When

corrected she flies out of control huffing and stomping, making a big scene,

diminishing learning). It boils down to whenever she perceives that she's

doing something the slightest bit wrong, or making any kind of mistake, she

reels out of control. She wants to be perfect in every way.

Emotional Outbursts not necessarily related to learning frustrations. She

can become very angry and violent. They seem to be PTSD reactions that can

be triggered.

Are there any books I could read about NF that explain the electrode sites

and behaviors/symptoms associated with them? (I have already read Symphony

in the Brain)

I would appreciate any advice, especially if anyone has worked long-term with

a post-institutionalized child.

Thanks,

D'

[Guest guest]

:

Since you were kind enough to respond to my sleepy post. I will go way

out on a limb and give you some feedback on your daughter. I am a little

queasy about the Fz beta. I think I would stop beta altogether until you

get her emotions under control. You will not see beta or SMR " go up "

often times. The reduction in theta changes the theta beta ratio and

that all by itself is what you are really after. One way to look at it

is to imagine this big rolling Wave of theta that comes through while

you are trying to do a task, which requires beta. The Theta literally

blocks out or overrides the beta. So reducing Theta improves the beta

processing. When I say Beta, I mean smr as well.

Many of us on this list have had some strange reactions to too much beta

training. I have never heard of anyone doing beta at Fz, it's usually

SMR.

There are many good approaches to RAD and the other problems you have

listed. My instinct would be to go after the limbic system, which would

require t3/4 (this is frequency sensitive) or perhaps going from the

mastoid crease on the right side, which is the little indentation in the

scalp just behind the top of the ear to Fp1. While you are virtually

always trying to reduce theta, going through the deeper portions of the

brain with a nice low frequency like SMR tends to help those more

primitive areas reorganize at a less frenzied pace.

The emotional outbursts should eventually fall to right side SMR

training, but I am tempted to see the limbic system playing a role

because of her age and traumatic background.

Finally, I would encourage you to take Pete's training. Since you are on

the list perhaps, you already have. There are many fine clinicians on

the list have had a great deal of experience with the types of

challenges you are facing.

Good luck

Mark

Re: Introduction

Hello:

I am D'. I recently purchased a Brainmaster 1.9a with

Animation

Pro to work on my 8 year old daughter. She is adopted from China and

has

many post-institutional problems that we've been dealing with

therapeutically

for about 6 years(PTSD, RAD, Sensory INtegration, vision, auditory

processing, to name a few). We had a Qeeg done with a local

practioner,

interpreted by Jay Gunkleman. Her Theta-Beta ratios were mostly 3

standard

deviations off norm. It's quite clear we have alot of work ahead.

We've been doing 15 mins each of FZ/A1/A2 beta, followed by C4/A1/A2

SMR.

After 15 sessions I'm seeing positive changes -- more focused and calm,

more

organized, better sleep, decreased anxiety. Theta has not dropped, Beta

has

not gone up.

Two behaviors that really bother me haven't budged and I wonder if there

is

anything more I could be doing. They are:

Frustration levels that escalate over sometimes simple tasks (while

reading

along smoothly, she stumbles over one word that she obviously knows.

When

corrected she flies out of control huffing and stomping, making a big

scene,

diminishing learning). It boils down to whenever she perceives that

she's

doing something the slightest bit wrong, or making any kind of mistake,

she

reels out of control. She wants to be perfect in every way.

Emotional Outbursts not necessarily related to learning frustrations.

She

can become very angry and violent. They seem to be PTSD reactions that

can

be triggered.

Are there any books I could read about NF that explain the electrode

sites

and behaviors/symptoms associated with them? (I have already read

Symphony

in the Brain)

I would appreciate any advice, especially if anyone has worked long-term

with

a post-institutionalized child.

Thanks,

D'