Re: OK what to do now ?

[Guest guest]

HI PAT

I have read a lot about children being placed on these types of drugs including

antisychotic drugs like I was placed on. These drugs cause one to sleep all the

time, and I would hate to see a young child put on them.

A child should be able to run about and play not sleep the day away.

How can a child learn if placed on drugs that send then to sleep all day.

If Doctors cannot find out the cause of ones ill health out comes the

antidepressant or antisychotic, and what could be easier for them.

Your Granddaughters symptoms sound like I was as a child and also on taking too

high a dose of T3 to start with, that made me do too much, and then end up in a

slump.

My former GP also said you seem to be up one minute and down the next.

I would refuse to allow any child of mine to be put on drugs as mentioned.

Kathleen

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> child still has memory and concentration problems and swings several times a

day from happy and active to suddenly exhausted and curled up in bed asleep

 

> as you can imagine her truly fantastic parents and i are appalled because a

happier more normal and delightful little girl is being sidelined and labelled

as depressed

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[Guest guest]

Hello Pat,

.....as you can imagine her truly fantastic parents and i are appalled because a happier more normal and delightful little girl is being sidelined and labelled as depressed

..... only if you or the parents let this happen, Pat!

You know my opinion.... start the granddaughter on natural desiccated thyroid and forget about the psych consult – or, if that is now no longer an option, insist that the psych will trial her on a course of NDT on the grounds that she has positive thyroid auto-antibodies and clinical symptoms of Hypothyroidism... Psychiatrists are usually pretty good and often understand more about low thyroid than endos .

It's a crying shame that your daughter declined thyroid treatment when it was offered. Now it likely won't be offered until the TSH will once again venture outside the ref range, which could happen at any given moment – but "catching" that moment is down to sheer "luck".

The child has got Hashimoto's disease – and with untreated Hashi's the TSH as well as FT's will fluctuate wildly and not reflect true values. According to Dr. Datis Kharrazian – and I quote – "One reason hypothyroidism often goes misdiagnosed is because a person with Hashimoto's can present with normal TSH....." Your granddaughter has got positive thyroid antibodies (btw- are they TPO or TgAB?) and that alone is diagnostic for Hashimoto's- regardless of thyroid results and certainly regardless of the TSH.

If it were my child or granddaughter, I would not waste any more time and run the risk of her becoming labelled "depressed" at such a young age. I would start medicating with NDT – with or without the blessing of the doctors - and see what happens. A trial for 6-8 weeks on natural desiccated thyroid is in no way dangerous and will give you all the answers you need.

Do make sure, however, that all her mineral and vitamin levels are well inside the ref ranges... iron, B12 and Vit D3 in particular.

Just my opinion.....

With best wishes,

[Guest guest]

Hi Pat,

I would second what has said. Additionally, I would look at making

sure that she is getting enough iodine, especially as the research shows that

teenage girls in the UK are deficient in iodine. There is some information on

iodine in the files here, but, I would recommend that you join the iodine

group for the most information and suport.

Just as an aside, my daughter is 13.5 years old with significant pituitary

issues. In spite of NHS tests showing deficiencies, the NHS endo will still not

prescribe anything. I cannot let my daughter continue to have her health and

well being compromised by the NHS. I just get on with the business of making

sure that she gets the right hormones and nutrients. Left to the NHS she would

be laid on the sofa all day unable to move from the severe fatigue/headaches

etc. etc. that she has without the hormones + she would not be going into

puberty. I had to take my daughter out of school and home educate her as she

could not get up in the morning and her memory and concentration plumetted. The

NHS consider her headaches to be stress headaches - they are not, they are

hormonal. They wanted to give her amytriptyline for this - I have not given them

to her as they are a known endocrine disrupter!

If possible, I would try to keep your grand-daughter away from a psychiatrist -

unless you can get them to prescribe the thyroid hormones that she needs.

Good luck,

> child still has memory and concentration problems and swings several times a

day from happy and active to suddenly exhausted and curled up in bed asleep

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> Consultant now claims phychiatric consult nessecary claiming childhood

depression