Re: Adrenal Stress Profile Results - Help Please?

[Guest guest]

Kerry,

The rule is adrenals first, thyroid second. You need to sort out the adrenals

or the thyroisd meds won't do their job and in fact, will stress the adrenals

further. Have a look at the articles in the files on adrenals

thyroid treatment/files/ADRENALS/

and think about buying some Nutri adrenal extra..... (NAX) Vitamin C dose can

be higher than 1,500 per day, but might give you the runs.....

I had results something like yours and it's taken me two years to get it

right....... I took NAX - 3 or 4 a day and up to 20 mg cortisone... I now

only take 1 NAX a day.

It's slow going, but you can get there....

x

>

> Hi All

>

> I have received my Genova Adrenal Stress Profile results today and am not sure

what I need to do now.

>

> The results are: (test taken on 06.12.11)

>

> Cortisol Levels

>

> Sample 1: 7.00 am: 11.4(L) (12-22)

> Sample 2: 11.45 am: 4.2 (L) (5-9)

> Sample 3: 4.00 pm: 3.6 (3-7)

> Sample 4: 10.15 pm: 1.6 (1-3)

>

> Total Daily Cortisol: 20.8 (L) (21-41)

>

> DHEA

>

> Sample 2: 0.23 (L) (0.4-1.47)

> Sample 3: 0.25 (L)

>

> DHEA:Cortisol Ratio: 1.15 (2-6)

>

> The report at the bottom says Exhaustion Stage and it goes on to list a few of

the symptoms which are bang on with what I have been experiencing - fatigue,

poor energy, chronic anxiety, blood sugar issues.

>

> I increased my ERFA to 3 grains just over a week ago and have seen some

improvement, mainly in my mood, but I do have quite bad muscle weakness and

shaky episodes still.

>

> Do I need to support my adrenals? and how do I go about doing that?

>

> I have just started taking Vitamin C 1000 mg and I take a Vitamin B Complex

with 500 mg Vitamin C in it, but I am not consistent with the Vitamin B Comp as

I have sometimes felt worse after taking it.

>

> So sorry for the long post and I would be so grateful if anyone could point me

in the right direction.

>

> Is it worth speaking to my Doctor or Private Endo?

>

> I wish all a Happy Christmas and thank you for all your help and support.

>

> Love and light

>

> Kerry x

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Kerry, I very much doubt it would be worth you speaking

with your GP or endocrinologist concerning your low adrenal reserve, as they

only recognise those with 's Disease or Cushing's Syndrome. This is one

problem you will have to deal with yourself.

You certainly do have adrenal fatigue and need to boost them in

order for the thyroid hormone to be fully utilised at the cellular level. You

need to go to our forum thyroid treatment

and on the Home Page, click on FILES. On the page that opens, scroll down to

'Discounts on Tests and Supplements' and scroll down that page to 'Nutri Ltd'

document. There, you can order Nutri Adrenal Extra, Siberian Ginseng and

Liquorice Tincture and get 33% discount by giving the TPA reference number.

Take one Siberian Ginseng tablet daily and raise your vitamin C

to 3/4000mgs daily. Take the liquorice tincture as recommended on the bottle,

but you don't take this for a long period of time. Start the Nutri Adrenal

Extra by taking 1 tablet with breakfast, and after 10 days, add another tablet

but take this one with your lunch (never take any after 1.00p.m.). After

another 10 days, you can take another NAE but take this with breakfast. If

symptoms persist, you can take up to 6 tablets daily, but if symptoms still persist,

you may need a course of Hydrocortisone to get your adrenals moving in the

right direction. The high dose vitamin C helps the NAE to be fully absorbed and

once your adrenals are functioning better, the thyroid hormone will start to

work better. Always remember that your body will use what vitamin C it needs

and excess will be excreted, usually through the bowels.

You may also need to take 25mgs DHEA daily.

Luv - Sheila

I increased my ERFA to 3 grains just over a week ago and have seen some

improvement, mainly in my mood, but I do have quite bad muscle weakness and

shaky episodes still.

Do I need to support my adrenals? and how do I go about doing that?

I have just started taking Vitamin C 1000 mg and I take a Vitamin B Complex

with 500 mg Vitamin C in it, but I am not consistent with the Vitamin B Comp as

I have sometimes felt worse after taking it.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila and x

Thank you both so much for the replies - true angels x

I rang at Nutri Ltd this afternoon and ordered the NAX. They don't do the

Siberian Ginseng and Liquorice Tincture anymore. I will google to see if I can

find somewhere else or if anyone knows of anywhere else I would be grateful to

know.

, I think I may have read somewhere before that you must sort the adrenals

first, which slightly worried me as I never had adrenal problems until I went

onto T4 (I was on T3 previously - thyroid cancer) - so the wrong throid meds for

me caused this. I was actually quite relieved when I got my adrenal test

results back showing something as I kept getting told everything was normal -

apart from the fact that I felt nowhere near normal. I forgot to mention that I

paid for a short synacthen test which was " normal " - no surprises there!

You both give me hope that I can feel normal again.

I do OK on a day to day basis and get by - but that's all. Some days are better

than others - I am always bad around my period and have had a bad crash

yesterday and today - leading up to my period.

Sorry for going on! Anyway, I have read about stopping thyroid meds before

starting adrenal support but am really scared at doing this. Sheila when you

mention about starting 1 NAX is that OK to still keep taking my ERFA?

Also Sheila, how will I know if I need the DHEA? and do you know where I can buy

it from? I'm so sorry, I'm trying to learn as quickly as possible but I do get

confused. I've got my head round the thyroid stuff, but not adrenals. at

Nutri mentioned Dr Peatfield - Do you think I should think about going to see

him? Or is this something I can do on my own? (with your wonderful support)

I don't know what I and thousands more would do without TPA - I am eternally

grateful.

Love and best wishes

Kerry x

>On the page that opens, scroll down to

> 'Discounts on Tests and Supplements' and scroll down that page to 'Nutri

> Ltd' document. There, you can order Nutri Adrenal Extra, Siberian Ginseng

> and Liquorice Tincture and get 33% discount by giving the TPA reference

> number.

>

You may also need to take 25mgs DHEA daily.

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Kerry

I think you can buy Siberian Ginseng still at any good Health

Food store, I know my local store sells it and it is quite cheap. I would also

speak with the head of the Health Food store and ask him if s/he sells

liquorice tincture or an alternative. You must remember also to take high doses

of vitamin C - this is essential. Your body will use what it needs, and will

excrete what it doesn't, so no fear of overdosing. Take it to bowel tolerance.

When starting to take adrenal supplements, it is usually best to

stop all thyroid medication for up to 7 days if that is at all possible, or at

least, stop for as long as you can, but if things get bad, then start the Erfa

thyroid to keep you going. However, take as small a dose of the Erfa as

possible. Check out the two attachments.

You can buy 25mgs DHEA at www.biovea.com

and start taking that with your Nutri Adrenal Extra. DHEA depletes as we get

older and needs supplementing. However, it can take up to 3 months to start

feeling any effect for some people (with others, it works quickly) so don't get

disheartened if you feel nothing for the first few weeks - eventually, you will

start to feel good again.

Luv - Sheila

Sorry for going on! Anyway, I have read about stopping thyroid meds before

starting adrenal support but am really scared at doing this. Sheila when you

mention about starting 1 NAX is that OK to still keep taking my ERFA?

Also Sheila, how will I know if I need the DHEA? and do you know where I can

buy it from? I'm so sorry, I'm trying to learn as quickly as possible but I do

get confused. I've got my head round the thyroid stuff, but not adrenals.

at Nutri mentioned Dr Peatfield - Do you think I should think about going to

see him? Or is this something I can do on my own? (with your wonderful support)

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