Guest guest Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 What T3 dose are you on and how long have you been on that dose ? I ask as T3 is pretty much an anti depressant as a major cause of depression is lack of T3. Steve > > Hi, > I was reading Dr Peatfield's book and I see that tricyclics can cause a problem with receptors for thyroid uptake. i currently on t3 for conversion problem > I'm on the tricyclic doxepin for depression, ibs-diarrhoea, pain and sleep. > does anyone know of an antidepresant that isnt a tricyclc but has the above properties and wont affect the receptors? > > Thanks > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Hello , I personally do not know the answer to your question, but below I have pasted several references to research studies that might help. Just cut and paste each of these into Google. Luv - Sheila Depression: the improvement with thyroid treatment 1. Bauer MS, Whybrow PC. Rapid cycling bipolar affective disorder. II. Treatment of refractory rapid cycling with high-dose levothyroxine: a preliminary study. Arch Gen Psychiatry. 1990 May;47(5):435-40 2. Afflelou S, Auriacombe M, Cazenave M, Chartres JP, Tignol J. Administration of high dose levothyroxine in treatment of rapid cycling bipolar disorders. Review of the literature and initial therapeutic application apropos of 6 cases. Encephale. 1997 May-Jun;23(3):209-17 3. Bauer M, Baur H, Berghofer A, Strohle A, Hellweg R, Muller-Oerlinghausen B, Baumgartner A. Effects of supraphysiological thyroxine administration in healthy controls and patients with depressive disorders. J Affect Disord. 2002 Apr;68(2-3):285-94 4. Schwarcz G, Halaris A, Baxter L, Escobar J, M, Young M. Normal thyroid function in desipramine nonresponders converted to responders by the addition of L-triiodothyronine. Am J Psychiatry. 1984 Dec;141(12):1614-6 5. Prange AJ Jr. Novel uses of thyroid hormones in patients with affective disorders. Thyroid. 1996 Oct;6(5):537-43 6. Birkenhager TK, Vegt M, Nolen WA. An open study of triiodothyronine augmentation of tricyclic antidepressants in inpatients with refractory depression. Pharmacopsychiatry. 1997 Jan;30(1):23-6 7. Joffe RT, Singer W, Levitt AJ, Mac C. A placebo-controlled comparison of lithium and triiodothyronine augmentation of tricyclic antidepressants in unipolar refractory depression. Arch Gen Psychiatry. 1993 May;50(5):387-93 8. Altshuler LL, Bauer M, Frye MA, Gitlin MJ, Mintz J, Szuba MP, Leight KL, Whybrow PC. Does thyroid supplementation accelerate tricyclic antidepressant response? A review and meta-analysis of the literature. Am J Psychiatry. 2001 Oct;158(10):1617-22 I was reading Dr Peatfield's book and I see that tricyclics can cause a problem with receptors for thyroid uptake. i currently on t3 for conversion problem I'm on the tricyclic doxepin for depression, ibs-diarrhoea, pain and sleep. does anyone know of an antidepresant that isnt a tricyclc but has the above properties and wont affect the receptors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Going gluten free should fix your both your depression and ibs symptoms. Jackie x Sent from my iPod so cant snip post, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Hi Jackie I take cymbalta, its really good, look it up and it works great i have been on t4 and now t3 as well, i cant say it doesnt affect them, all i can say is there is no evidence it does, if anyone finds any i would be interested also. > > Going gluten free should fix your both your depression and ibs symptoms. > > Jackie x > > Sent from my iPod so cant snip post, sorry. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 > > Going gluten free should fix your both your depression and ibs symptoms. > > Jackie x > > Sent from my iPod so cant snip post, sorry. Wheat free for me has been a God send where my IBS is concerned. If you like a good read the book 'Wheat Belly' by Dr. is an eye opener. (If you go to Amazon you can do the 'look inside' and get an idea of what its about. One of the most telling parts is the story of schizophrenics being dramatically helped if not cured by going wheat free. If such severe mental disorders can be helped by dropping wheat, what's it going to do to common or garden depression? I had already started on Testosterone supplementation in the form of patches and then an implant which cured my depression, I do wonder if I will need another one especially as I am now wondering if DTEA (or whatever its called, supplement to help sex hormones)will be better than 6 monthly implants. I blame my 15+ years of diarrhea on my low nutrient absorption, and I blame the doctors for not putting 2 and 2 together and noticing it. It has caused me numerous problems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Have you looked into other causes for your depression, like other hormone imbalances and nutrient deficiencies? Can you consult a knowledgable doctor or maybe nutritionist? >> I was reading Dr Peatfield's book and I see that tricyclics can cause a problem with receptors for thyroid uptake. Do you suspect they are in you though? is it worth looking into food intolerances for your ibs etc, too? chris > > Hi, > I was reading Dr Peatfield's book and I see that tricyclics can cause a problem with receptors for thyroid uptake. i currently on t3 for conversion problem > I'm on the tricyclic doxepin for depression, ibs-diarrhoea, pain and sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Hi there, don `t wont to upset you but my son was on anti whatsets and also anti convaltions but i stoped them as it was making him more ill.I found out that they stop the t4 converting to the T3 and the anti convalsents were suppressing his Adrenals. all in all not very good out come.i would say that it is the lack of T3 or non conversion or even the auto-antibodies that is the cause of depression. i would not take them, and i would not let my son take them., but we are all different.my son dos not have convalsions or is deppressed.! he has learning problems and Autism, but is still a person not an amimal.convensenal doctors don`t no why we get depression bur their are a few natural treatments that are as good as the one`s your doctor flogs you.just type in natural what ever you have and a load of alternatives comes up. just google thats what i do and feel a lot better taking natural products. after all you did not get sick because you lack XYZ cemecals in the body. this makes a lot of sense to me. Angel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Hi i'm off all antidepressants since being on T3 and vast quantities of vit D3 the two together seem to really work a treat for me , and i've been on and off antidepressants since i was 19 and i'm now 40 !!! i was on citalopram love Sha xxxxxxxxx > > > > Hi, > > I was reading Dr Peatfield's book and I see that tricyclics can cause a problem with receptors for thyroid uptake. i currently on t3 for conversion problem > > I'm on the tricyclic doxepin for depression, ibs-diarrhoea, pain and sleep. > > does anyone know of an antidepresant that isnt a tricyclc but has the above properties and wont affect the receptors? > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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