Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Dear Colin, When Vancouver was examining options for water disinfection (ultimately choosing ozone), the information in their study listed one of the byproducts of chlorine reacting with biomass in the (surface) water as formaldehyde. They went on to say that formaldehyde is a known carcinogen, and that therefore, chlorination was no longer acceptable for surface water disinfection. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh Re: MS origin? > > > > Hi Saul; > > > > Gold has been found to be abnormally low in the brain cells of MS > patients. > > It's being studied as a problem of low assimilation from natural sources. > > > > > The remark about formaldehyde/MS - is one of diagnosis. There is growing > > speculation that up to 75% of MS diagnoses are in erroneous and in fact > > result from similar symptoms brought about by formaldehyde damage. The > > formaldehyde is derived from aspartame, nutrasweet equal and whatever > > because of the wood alcohol it's made with. www.dorway.com > > > > ciao > > > > Duncan > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2001 Report Share Posted January 8, 2001 Ok. Thanks! I suppose they must have been looking at some studies that indicated this. Best Regards, Colin Quinney Re: MS origin? > > > > > > > Hi Saul; > > > > > > Gold has been found to be abnormally low in the brain cells of MS > > patients. > > > It's being studied as a problem of low assimilation from natural > sources. > > > > > > > > The remark about formaldehyde/MS - is one of diagnosis. There is growing > > > speculation that up to 75% of MS diagnoses are in erroneous and in fact > > > result from similar symptoms brought about by formaldehyde damage. The > > > formaldehyde is derived from aspartame, nutrasweet equal and whatever > > > because of the wood alcohol it's made with. www.dorway.com > > > > > > ciao > > > > > > Duncan > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2001 Report Share Posted September 3, 2001 >>>>I do make old fashioned rosewater coldcreams for myself and friends, but I'm too scared to sell them to shops....<<< So the question begs to be asked..... IF you chose to sell them, and you've labeled them as NOT having a chemical preservative....is it legal to sell then? Isn't choice up to the consumer or am I being naive and uncle Sam is going to once again butt in to what we may chose to do or not do..... Cori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2001 Report Share Posted September 3, 2001 > So the question begs to be asked..... IF you chose to sell them, and you've labeled them as NOT having a chemical preservative....is it legal to sell then? Isn't choice up to the consumer or am I being naive and uncle Sam is going to once again butt in to what we may chose to do or not do..... Cori, the FDA doesn't specifically say that you have to use a preservative. What they do say is that you do have to put out a safe product. Regardless of how clean your manufacturing facility is or the amount of precaution you take, chances are that your product has some contamination. I interpret the rule to mean that you must use a preservative since this is the only way you can guarantee meeting the safety rule. Even if you interpret the law differently, you are leaving yourself open to potential lawsuits that could-quite possibly-take everything you own as well as attaching your future earnings. The more moral reason for using preservatives is to protect people from themselves as few understand the risk they put themselves at by using an unpreserved product. Don't forget, people only want the right to choose until someone gets injured, then the blame quickly switches to the manufacturer. Pat. Peace, Joy, Serenity. www.houseofscents.com Cosmeticinfo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2001 Report Share Posted September 4, 2001 When did we find THAT out?? The only formaldehyde releasers that I can find information on are: Quaternium 15, Germall® 115 (imidazolidinyl urea), Germall® II (diazolidinyl urea), Glydant® [DMDM (dimethylolmethyl) hydantoin], BronopolTM (2-bromo-2-nitropropane-1,3-diol), Tris Nitro® [tris (hydroxymethyl) nitromethane] I tried to find information on how the parabens work as microbial growth inhibitors, but can't locate it on the web... anybody have a biochem website handy? > find out that the parabens are " formaldehyde releasers " .....duh! So you can > use parabens cos they don't use the nasty word " fromaldehyde " on the > ingredient list!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 I'd like to learn more about this. Are there any studies/ link/ info you can pass along? Nissa > > For those of you trying to avoid formaldehyde, you > should be aware that formaldehyde is formed by the > wood alchohols in aspertame (nutrasweet, equal, etc.) > before it gets as warm as your body temp. So basically > your boddy becomes a lab where these toxic cemicals > are created, it you drink diet drinks! > Also, Splenda is a Chlorine product. If you want a > safe artificial sweetner, try Stevia. I still prefer > plain old sugar, but have used stevia on ocation. > HTH! > > Joy > http://www.shaklee.net/joyfully_well > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with - make it your home page > http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 See my aspartame webpages http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/aspartame.htm Sheri listowner At 07:04 PM 8/29/2005 -0000, you wrote: >I'd like to learn more about this. Are there any studies/ link/ info you >can pass along? > >Nissa > > >> >> For those of you trying to avoid formaldehyde, you >> should be aware that formaldehyde is formed by the >> wood alchohols in aspertame (nutrasweet, equal, etc.) >> before it gets as warm as your body temp. So basically >> your boddy becomes a lab where these toxic cemicals >> are created, it you drink diet drinks! >> Also, Splenda is a Chlorine product. If you want a >> safe artificial sweetner, try Stevia. I still prefer >> plain old sugar, but have used stevia on ocation. >> HTH! >> > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA, Classical Homeopath Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561 (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Vaccine Dangers On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccineclass.htm Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. ****** " Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Thanks, Sherri! What about info for Splenda? I've got some friends that I want to share this info with. Nissa > See my aspartame webpages > http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/aspartame.htm > > Sheri > listowner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I remember reading that they use formaldehyde in processing fabrics. Going into a fabric store sends me up the wall. I get such a headache and can hardly stand the smell. I react to diesel fumes and can't ride behind buses or trucks without turning off the outside vent. I am also mold sensitive, smelling it in planter beds when I walk by. in La Selva Beach CA CFS since childhood now FMS, 56 years young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Hi , I used to have the same problem for years but it is a lotttttt better since I started taking B-Complex and particularly P5P (active form of B6) a couple of months ago. I just did a search and found: http://www.johnleemd.com/store/env_illness.html WR: If you have chemical sensitivity or overload, you always have vitamin deficiency. Sixty percent of patients with chemical overload have B6 deficiency, 30 percent have vitamin C deficiency, and 30 percent are deficient in vitamins B1, 2, 3 and 5. And many patients can't tolerate the vitamins they need so they can't begin taking them until they're healthier.It might be worthwhile for you to see if you some of the other symptoms of B6/P5P deficiency. I have a number of links if you are interested. All the best, Yannic On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Schmidt <schmidtmba@...> wrote: > I remember reading that they use formaldehyde in processing fabrics. > Going into a fabric store sends me up the wall. I get such a headache > and can hardly stand the smell. I react to diesel fumes and can't ride > behind buses or trucks without turning off the outside vent. I am also > mold sensitive, smelling it in planter beds when I walk by. > > in La Selva Beach CA > CFS since childhood now FMS, 56 years young > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I recently tackled the vaccine excipient list with my doc... I have to tell you, I didn't even get in to the neurotoxins and chemicals in the vaccines... I didn't have to go any further than pointing out there are many allergens in vaccines and I was granted medical exemptions.... However, I guess in response to this I would have to say that formaldehyde is not the only suspect ingredient in a vaccine, there are many... vaccines are a cocktail of chemicals, antibiotics and foreign animal proteins. So, perhaps injecting formaldehyde neat (straight formaldehyde with nothing else in it) may be " crosslinked " and not readily available for absorbtion, but have there been studies done that prove this same " crosslink " happens when it is mixed with the other chemicals found in the vaccines? What about all the other heavy metals and neurotoxins in the vaccines that don't have this same crosslink reaction? What happens to the protein that has " consumed " the formaldehyde? It has to go somewhere. The body will still have to work hard to expell the toxin, which unnecessarily taxes the immune system. On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:25 AM, <SquishyMommyof2@...> wrote: > > > How do you respond to this in regards to there being formaldehyde in > vaccines? > > " If you are still worried about formaldehyde in your blood, then vaccines > are the least of your worries. Free formaldehyde, when injected IM, rapidly > crosslinks with proteins, rendering it unavailable for absorption into the > bloodstream. " > > Alyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Rendering the formaldehyde or the protein unavailable. Sorry if I'm the only one reading this that has a question.. and why would you inject straight formaldehyde into your body? Am I missing something here? Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 16, Jon 14, 12, 10, 7, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 3 and Isaac, 1 http://momof6.dotphoto.com <http://momof6.dotphoto.com/> for not necessarily current pictures http://nitasspot.blogspot.com Learn from the mistakes of others. Trust me... you can't live long enough to make them all yourself. " If you are still worried about formaldehyde in your blood, then vaccines are the least of your worries. Free formaldehyde, when injected IM, rapidly crosslinks with proteins, rendering it unavailable for absorption into the bloodstream. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Well, that would have been my other question... On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Venita Garner <nitagarner@...> wrote: > > > Rendering the formaldehyde or the protein unavailable. > > Sorry if I'm the only one reading this that has a question.. and why would > you inject straight formaldehyde into your body? Am I missing something > here? > > Nita (crew chief) and the crew: 16, Jon 14, 12, 10, > 7, Christian (7/16/03 to 8/22/04), 3 and Isaac, 1 > http://momof6.dotphoto.com <http://momof6.dotphoto.com/> for not > necessarily current pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Wow Alyssa! You just answered one of the many trigger questions of Autism....take a look at this link below. Formaldehyde is toxic for the person genetically predisposed (experiencing problems with proteins). http://www.niehs.nih.gov/health/topics/conditions/autism/docs/MutationsProteinsa\ ndAutismModelingaPathway.pdf > > How do you respond to this in regards to there being formaldehyde in > vaccines? > > " If you are still worried about formaldehyde in your blood, then vaccines > are the least of your worries. Free formaldehyde, when injected IM, rapidly > crosslinks with proteins, rendering it unavailable for absorption into the > bloodstream. " > > Alyssa > **************Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. > (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist & ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 I have some info somewhere about cross-linking from years ago, hard copy must hunt it down. I recall a bit as it was to do with seizures caused by vaccines - we used B5 and B6 and the old standbys, A & C as they can prevent glycosylation. Lipoic acid was another one and we used this for vax and amalgam detox. MSM was another and a herb called goat's rue, which is an excellent galactogogue BTW. There is a chemical in it that pHARMa has pinched as it helps reduce NO production - an underlying cause of whooping cough. The drug was used (within 2 hours I think) to minimise the brain injuring effects of strokes. Don't know if it's still used. Perhaps it would have done the same for those who suffered brain injury following DPT vaccination. It was the pertussin component that seemed to cause the most problems. Cross linking contributes to emphysema, wrinkles, alzheimers that I remember. > > > How do you respond to this in regards to there being formaldehyde in > vaccines? > > " If you are still worried about formaldehyde in your blood, then vaccines > are the least of your worries. Free formaldehyde, when injected IM, rapidly > crosslinks with proteins, rendering it unavailable for absorption into the > bloodstream. " > > Alyssa ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 I am new to this forum, and am reading all the new member info (I appreciate who ever put all the new member info together, it is very helpful). What I would like to inquire is, has anyone found any data that shows that iodine detoxes formaldehyde from the body? I am very big on energy medicine, and have a number of energy vials my allergist made for me so that I can muscle test to see what I'm flaring up to. With these I have also discovered that if I hold the vial of something that is weakening me, and then pick up, one at a time, forms of supplements, herbs, etc and get muscle tested, when I am holding something that treats what is weakening me in the vial I'm holding, my arm will stay strong, telling me that what I picked up will bind and move that toxin out of the body. Today when I muscle tested that formaldehyde was weakening me, and went through the steps of testing various things, when I picked up the bottle of Iodoral my arm was very strong, so I am feeling certain this must move formaldehyde out, and would like to know if anyone has found research that would validate this.For anyone that does not realize how bad our exposure to formaldehyde is, do some research on it. It is in all new clothes (and is why new clothes have the stiff feel), it is in new carpet, furniture, which outgasses in your house and absorbed by you, it is produced in the body with the chemcials in many soft drinks. This list goes on and on.Thanks for any feed back anyone can provide. If possible can you please respond directly since I am on the digest format. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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